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Curious, Possible? Trans

So, I have a plug PC, known as Pogoplug, and I have an HTC Evo, and also a Samsung galaxy Tab, a good set of gadgets, what I want to do is, have a torrent app on my tablet, (i have 2 actually, a 16gb and a 32gb) that will download to the drive attatched to my pogoplug.
(i've thought about hacking the pogoplug to setup a BT client on it, but its quite a hassle.)

You could get a torrent app (for your device), download files and transfer them to your Pogoplug (just not straight to it without setting up some kind of sync).

You got a Pogoplug and you are not hacking it ? WHYYY XD ? I found a nice guide, looks not so hard and it might be worth it... Making your tablet download torrent would mean keeping it busy and killing its battery, the main download app should be in the plug or in another computer. I have a seedbox made with an old pc, uTorrent and a custom WEB interface made by myself, it saves into internal HD (20gb) then when dl is over, it moves files in external drive (that is then shared thru the net). I can check/update from everywhere, even from old phones (as my interface is plain html no fancy js like the official web interface).
If you want to stick to a tablet torrent app, you will have also to find a sync program supported by both android & pogo (that might eventually lead to installing something on the pogo anyway... ) so check out what pogo can offer first (ftp, scp, smb, rsync...), then you are likely to find something for Android too!

ell3 said:
You got a Pogoplug and you are not hacking it ? WHYYY XD ? I found a nice guide, looks not so hard and it might be worth it... Making your tablet download torrent would mean keeping it busy and killing its battery, the main download app should be in the plug or in another computer. I have a seedbox made with an old pc, uTorrent and a custom WEB interface made by myself, it saves into internal HD (20gb) then when dl is over, it moves files in external drive (that is then shared thru the net). I can check/update from everywhere, even from old phones (as my interface is plain html no fancy js like the official web interface).
If you want to stick to a tablet torrent app, you will have also to find a sync program supported by both android & pogo (that might eventually lead to installing something on the pogo anyway... ) so check out what pogo can offer first (ftp, scp, smb, rsync...), then you are likely to find something for Android too!
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Yeah i hacked it for a day, and didnt like it. Im not very familiar with all the command line linux aspects, If there was a "Oh ok, click, touch, done" installer i could use, kind of like how android phones work. then i could do it, I just need a torrent app, DLNA app, and FTP or file access app.

[Q] Can someone please explain what the transformer I/O problem means?

I've seen it in threads that the "I/O" is a problem on the tf700.
What does that mean? I don't know what it is :silly:

ap3604 said:
I've seen it in threads that the "I/O" is a problem on the tf700.
What does that mean? I don't know what it is :silly:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input/output

To add just a bit of context to the rather unfriendly and a bit too concise a reply above, the TF700 -- as all other Transformer edition tablets -- suffer from lags and hangups when a disk-intensive task is run concurrently with some other task (for example when installing or updating an app in the background and browsing the web or watching a (high-resolution) video at the same time) or when transferring large amounts of data to or from both internal and external memory (like that video you wanted watch while letting your apps update in the background ). Note that the term 'disk-intensive' is a relative one, since it also happens with operations so limited that it is hard to believe the hardware would be overwhelmed to any significant degree.

I was able to see this easily last night installing large apps and try to use the play st ore while downloading. Never had this on my og transformer.
Otherwise this is a beautiful tablet

MartyHulskemper nails the description, so I am listing some specific examples.
1. Installing applications stalls other action/task
Presumably, installing application actively access your flash drive and this basically freezes your system temporary even it is non-intensive application such as simply non-flash based site browsing.
2. Downloading large file stalls other action/task
Just as #1, but again this is writing/accessing your flash drive.
3. Copy/Write from PC to Tablet by USB
Small files flies. Big files inconsistently but relatively frequently stops/freezes. Presumably some sort of issue from writing to flash disk.
4. Slower PDF opening (I am speculating this)
Compared to my former system, which was dual core, opening large PDF is much slower and almost consistently gives me "No response" Error. This I am blaming on the reading from flash drive is somehow the issue.
So You will encounter the problems here and there as I/O is pretty much used everywhere.

[Help] Computer Issues! Need Info

So the Laptop I'm currently using is a Toshiba Satellite A205-S5825 *pic Sys Info at bottom* For some reason it's slower than slow! I mean for the specs, I don't expect much, but I expect it to be usable. On a scale of 1/10, it runs at a 4. It should be going at a 8!!!!! Anybody know any software, or ways I can increase the speed. Everything is maxed out. I'm considering an SSD. But there so expansive for the size. Here's some major issues I've found
Speed!
Anti-Virus! Need a good one :T
Ram Usage, more than half my Ram is taken up.
Can somebody help? We're all geeks, I'm sure it can be done.

For antivirus download avast
And try restoring ur laptop if possible
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Don't worry about an ssd, you could use more ram, though. Also, as antivirus goes,I would recommend Microsoft security essentials.
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AgentCherryColla said:
So the Laptop I'm currently using is a Toshiba Satellite A205-S5825 *pic Sys Info at bottom* For some reason it's slower than slow! I mean for the specs, I don't expect much, but I expect it to be usable. On a scale of 1/10, it runs at a 4. It should be going at a 8!!!!! Anybody know any software, or ways I can increase the speed. Everything is maxed out. I'm considering an SSD. But there so expansive for the size. Here's some major issues I've found
Speed!
Anti-Virus! Need a good one :T
Ram Usage, more than half my Ram is taken up.
Can somebody help? We're all geeks, I'm sure it can be done.
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id recommend getting auslogics bootspeed its a all in one suite, its a 15 day trial but u can do some digging and get a cracked version . its a very good program ive been using it for years, if you get it try defraging the registry
EDIT: also windows vista has always been troublesome,any version of windows 7 would be fine for your pc, if possible get windows 7.
EDIT AGAIN: for anti virus get avast and register so youll get 1 year for free, and you can keep registering after it expires and they'll keep giving you 1 year for free. its what I use on my pc
EDIT AGAIN AGAIN LOL: also ccleaner is a good program for removing junk and clutter. and go to the start menu and go to "run" and type "msconfig" it'll bring up a menu, you can disable certain services and start up programs from starting when the pc is started to speed up the system.
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ac3theone said:
id recommend getting auslogics bootspeed its a all in one suite, its a 15 day trial but u can do some digging and get a cracked version . its a very good program ive been using it for years, if you get it try defraging the registry
EDIT: also windows vista has always been troublesome,any version of windows 7 would be fine for your pc, if possible get windows 7.
EDIT AGAIN: for anti virus get avast and register so youll get 1 year for free, and you can keep registering after it expires and they'll keep giving you 1 year for free. its what I use on my pc
EDIT AGAIN AGAIN LOL: also ccleaner is a good program for removing junk and clutter. and go to the start menu and go to "run" and type "msconfig" it'll bring up a menu, you can disable certain services and start up programs from starting when the pc is started to speed up the system.
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I use all of them but Auslogisc. I'll check it out.
Also my RAM is maxed out at 2G's which is weird. Even with 2 slots it should be able to do 4 :T The processor allows for 4G's.
Then about Windows 7, I've tried cracked versions. But they never install. Only Unbuntu will work.

AgentCherryColla said:
I use all of them but Auslogisc. I'll check it out.
Also my RAM is maxed out at 2G's which is weird. Even with 2 slots it should be able to do 4 :T The processor allows for 4G's.
Then about Windows 7, I've tried cracked versions. But they never install. Only Unbuntu will work.
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maybe you can change the amount of video memory in the bios to make more ram available to the system
for windows 7 try this link
http://forum.mintywhite.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=5865
and
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/24901-Windows-Loader-Current-release-information
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ac3theone said:
EDIT AGAIN AGAIN LOL: also ccleaner is a good program for removing junk and clutter. and go to the start menu and go to "run" and type "msconfig" it'll bring up a menu, you can disable certain services and start up programs from starting when the pc is started to speed up the system.
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I personally haven't noticed a difference using ccleaner, but I still use it religiously every month. Nothin like cleaning out your registry and crap temp files in two clicks.

ekoee said:
I personally haven't noticed a difference using ccleaner, but I still use it religiously every month. Nothin like cleaning out your registry and crap temp files in two clicks.
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MS Security Essentials is about the ONLY AV software I've found that won't make the typical computer drag along like a snail and it seems to be just as effecient as any of the rest I've tried. And If you're running the original manufacturer's installation of Windows.....EVER....then you're running more hidden bloatware on there than Sprint & Tmobile together could intergrate into your system.
The best thing I've done for my 4GB Compac was to reinstall a clean version of Windows 7 & Uninstall everything BUT Windows SE for protection.
The bloatware & 3rd party AV is where your RAM Is going and probaby overtaxing your processor too.

I second Avast...after a clean install of Win 7. If possible, set your machine up to dual-boot into a Linux distro that you can use for Android hacking.
Sent from Spaceball One.

Wow, there's a regular back and forth between avast and mse here.
I get great performance from any reasonably well built vista computer with a clean retail install disc of windows 7. Any version. I use mse. Its virtually silent, yet effective, and seems to weigh nothing.
Sent from my doubleshot running cm9-alpha6

I have an Alienware M14x. I had to reinstall Win7 on it and then set up a partition for Ubuntu Precise. As I said, try that.
Sent from Spaceball One.

AgentCherryColla said:
So the Laptop I'm currently using is a Toshiba Satellite A205-S5825 *pic Sys Info at bottom* For some reason it's slower than slow! I mean for the specs, I don't expect much, but I expect it to be usable. On a scale of 1/10, it runs at a 4. It should be going at a 8!!!!! Anybody know any software, or ways I can increase the speed. Everything is maxed out. I'm considering an SSD. But there so expansive for the size. Here's some major issues I've found
Speed!
Anti-Virus! Need a good one :T
Ram Usage, more than half my Ram is taken up.
Can somebody help? We're all geeks, I'm sure it can be done.
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Hey Agent,
If you're running a 32 bit operating system, the maximum amount of RAM any computer/laptop will be able to handle is 3GB. You could get an extra 2GB stick to fill that slot on your laptop but it would only use 1GB. If you're running a 64 bit OS, then you can extend to 4GB and above. If your processor is saying it can handle 4GB, that would be if you had a 64 bit OS.
There are a bunch of free anti-virus tools out there. Avast, AVG and Microsoft Security Essentials are all well known, all of which get great reviews and work effectively. I use AVG on my computer but if I had a choice, I'd be using Security Essentials. It has a small file size compared to AVG and Avast and it scans for both malware and viruses. I was using it some time back but for some odd reason, it kept randomly crashing on me. I've never been able to find out why or replicate this problem on another computer so I think it has something to do with the hardware on mine.
Another piece of free software you might want to look into is Malwarebytes. It's a malware/spyware removal tool that can help pick up malicious software that anti-virus programs don't always find. Excellent tool, a must have for any computer user. Install, update, and do a full scan. This could take some time so make sure you pick a frame where you won't be needing your laptop.
I also echo the comments of others on this thread who have said to upgrade to Windows 7. I've fixed a lot of computers in my time and have found that even without a user messing up a computer on their own, Vista is buggy at best. Even if you have to pay for it, it's worth the investment. If you go this route, make sure you buy the full version and not just the upgrade so you can wipe your system clean and start from scratch. Just like rooting your phone, make sure you back up your data before doing this.
Ccleaner is also an effective tool but be careful using the registry cleaner. Make sure if you do use it, that you back up the registry entries you're deleting when prompted to do so. Although not often, I've had computers act up on me after using it and had to restore the backup. Inside Ccleaner, there's also a function in the Tools menu called "Startup". Anything that's checked is set to start with your computer, most of which aren't necessary and can dramatically slow your computer/laptop down. A simple way to tell what's starting with your computer/laptop would be to look at the number of icons on the bottom right side of your screen by the clock. If you have a bunch, you should disable what you can.
If you don't use Ccleaner, you can also get to your startup entries by typing MSCONFIG in the search or run functions in your Start menu.
Really, the only software's you need to start with your computer are your anti-virus and if you have one installed, the firewall. For laptops, there might also be a touchpad function that you'll still need as well, and if you use iTunes I've found that it's temperamental and won't work right when it doesn't start with your comp.
Long winded reply but when fixing a comp, it's best to provide as much info as possible instead of not enough. Hope this helps!
Edit: I just looked at your screenshot and you're running a 32 bit OS (x86) so the most RAM your laptop can handle is 3GB
Edit2: If and/or when you install a different anti-virus program, check the website of the current one you have for a removal tool. Removing anti-virus programs through the Programs and Features function will sometimes leave residual files and registry entries in your computer and when you install a new one, it could cause your computer to slow down.

[Q] LC-Power MIRA-1 / M105F Andorid 4.0.4 Questions

Hello,
I do hope my questions fit in here.
I recently bought the LC-Power MIRA-1 10.1" tablet. In google play it is called "unknown M105F"
the tablet has a 1,2 GHz A10 - ARM Cortex A8 CPU and a Mali 400MP GPU
i do have some experience with backup/root/uc&oc and even custom mods with my motorola defy phone (currently running cm7.2 stable)
when "playing" around with my defy i found it was sold in big numbers and is very well supported not only here but in any number of other communities. however, since my new tablet is pretty new to the market and no brand tablet, finding information on it is near impossible.
i do hope this will change in the future, especially since I really feel that my tablet is well suited for a number of tasks and with the price tag of ~150 EUR might even have a chance of finding its way in the hands of many people
anyway, even if the tablet is fine as it is now, it could be better. i am talking about modifications and this is what this thread is about.
1) BACKUP
in case i screw up, I really would love to have the possibility of resetting everything(!) back to factory defaults.
with my defy it is as easy as downloading the official sfb and flashing it with rsd lite
this wont work here for obvious reasons
is there a possibility to download the firmware to the pc (from the tablet) and later restoring it? probably not
so the only way left is nandroid backup?
easier said than done with a new device and without root...
also, i would very much prefer to have a backup without root / be sure to be able to remove all modifications i made like installing clockwork mod and rooting...
2) ROOT
for various reasons I'd like to have root. according to my information, rooting 4.0.4 is dependant on the device.
considering i have an unknown device, short of trying every possibility, what else could i do/try?
3) UNDERCLOCK/OVERCLOCK
I would LOVE to try to UC and OC the tablet. I know this might fail miserabely, but I could try.
IF i had root and any idea on how to find (again, short of trying every possible app) a working app.
any ideas?
4) GENERAL CUSTOMISATION
i learned that a well made custommod (like 7.2 for my defy) can make a huge difference in customisation and performance.
I would be willing to try a stable custommod but for now, I dont think that is viable since they usually are device specific.
So all I can do is use another launcher and hope for the best. I really like the performance, functions and especial the ability to customize the AWD Launcher that came with the cm7.2 for my phone.
According to google play the awd launcher is not compatible with my device. i cant imagine why, but there it is.
now, is there a way to still try it?
and what launcher comes closest to the performance, feel and customizability of the awd launcher (i do NOT care about special visual effects on which most launchers seem to concentrate)?
5) SIMILAR DEVICES
the best way to approach all those questions might be to find a (very) similar tablet and try to extrapolate answers from there onto my device.
however, I have no clue on how to figure out what chipset my tablet uses and what other information might be needed to try it that way
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thats it for now
any and all help will be appreciated!
thank you for reading this
Catwiesel

Hello
okay, I have some news...
since no one had anything to say I went ahead and started trying stuff out...
Apparently, the tablet is rooted by default (or my measurement of being rooted is wrong):
- when i run the app root checker, it says it is rooted
- when i run adb shell / su the prompt is root:directoy #
- i can create and delete files from /system/app
still, something is up...:
- using the adb shell i can create a file in /system/app (touch test.tst)
- if i try to delete/move anything in the adb shell from /system/app apparently the file can not be found
- it works in terminal emulator
- ive installed superuser, but have yet to see the "application asks for superuser rights"
- with the default file browser or es file explorer i can not get to / (stuck in /sdcard) EDIT: Resolved, layer8 problem!
ive also tried some overclocking apps
- they either do not go beyond 1.2ghz (stock) - the apps however is more or less to uc, not oc
- they crash the tablet even with 1248mhz - maybe the scaling gouvanours fault?
- underclocking seems to work (by accident i set the mhz from 1200 to 60 and well... it was SLOW)
i also found out some stuff (quick info system pro)
- ARMv7 processor rev 2(v71) (ARM Cortex A8 1,2GHz - at least according to the tech sheet at the manufactorer)
- sun4i
so, i wonder:
- is the tablet actually sold rooted? then why do i not get superuser permission popups?
- is my hardware not overclockable with (those) apps (i have) and/or do i actually need a custom kernel (ive read abput self compiled kernel for sun4i and another tablet)
ive gotta say, even with a bit of experience in android (acutally, very little) and a bit of linux (not too much, but decent enough) i am sorta confused

...not alone
I´d bought 2 devices LC Power Mira 2 yesterday...they should be delivered on friday...so hang on...you´re no longer alone...
It could be that the device is rooted...as far as I know...
Google runs some kind of an quality assurance by denying some "nobrand" manufactures the total Android 4.0 compatibility.
For an example the Arnova (Archon´s budget line) 10b G3 is running 4.0 but without the Play Store, ´cause the device is not fully supported as an "Quality Android 4.0 Device" and you have to use a custom rom on that tablet.
That´s one reason to spend 5 Euros more for the Mira2 which have it all onboard...or am I wrong...?

thearclight said:
I´d bought 2 devices LC Power Mira 2 yesterday...say should be delivered on friday...so hang on...you´re no longer alone...
It could be that the device is rooted...as far as I know...
Google runs some kind of an quality assurance by denying some "nobrand" manufactures the total Android 4.0 compatibility.
For an example the Arnova (Archon´s budget line) 10b G3 is running 4.0 but without the Play Store, ´cause the device is not fully supported as an "Quality Android 4.0 Device" and you have to use a custom rom on that tablet.
That´s one reason to spend 5 Euros more for the Mira2 which have it all onboard...or am I wrong...?
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Yes, indeed, at least the MIRA-1 tablet does come prerooted. This is of course nice (since I do not have to try root it myself) but also troubeling, since there is a good reason that android devices usually are not sold rooted. The bigger problem however seems to be that the superuser app is not working properly, i.e. I do not get the "this app is requesting superuser acess" question and probably for the same reason can not get my file browser (ES file browser) to go into the / directory.
what and if other apps could have trouble with the root access that apperently not every app is "finding" i dont know. i do hope not!
however, using the android sdk or shell emulator, all kinds of SU operations can indeed be executed.
concerning your google play store question (was it a question?), yes, the MIRA-1 tablet has google play installed and it can be used without any peticular limitation. its a safe bet that the mira-2 will be able to, too.
my experience with overclocking the tablet does not bode well. even a 48Mhz (smallest step) increase will freeze it. I have tried multiple apps.
i do not have any absolute answer so far. it could be that the oc apps have trouble with the root or are plain the wrong apps or simply that the cpu is already at its absolute limit and just can not be oced.
further investigation into this issue has revealed that apparently other tablets with similar hardware configuration may be able to overclock but apparently it would be neccesary to edit config files and with those compile the kernel. this is far beyond of what i can do and would be willing to do.
i am a bit sad about that, then yeah, the tablet is nice and good enough for me and worth the money, but a bit more speed could not hurt. it does happen that the tablet gets unresponsive for .5-1sec when browsing the web.
one last thought. the gpu does seem to be pretty "powerfull" (please, do not take me to literal.)
but i have yet to find any game that does not run smooth and looks good. according to my information i came across, the gpu is indeed well known for its good performance in 3d and full hd playback
(one exception. snes emulator is unplayable slow. but here i too blame the cpu, not gpu)

...
...sounds good to the fact that I won´t expecting more for this price. Hey 157€ is´nt very much for an 10.1" tablet...
...I´d got also my LG P990 as Android device and smartphone...believe Me...I know what it means being betrayed...no updates...Tegra ? - nVidia ?...I don´t wanna talk about it...lol
It´s rooted and I never got problems with some apps about this fact...ok it´s still on 2.3...thanks LG, by pretending the update comes in May 2012...
I´d send an e-mail to the support of LCpower, by asking about an list of compatible 3g Sticks...10min. later...Answer and an Exel-file with the whole list...great service...´til now...
I just hope that I´d bought 2 "nice" family tablets for a few funny games, sometimes a movie, some social networking...nothing more.
Hope I did´nt misunderstood something here...
...is it only possible with another Explorer (like Astro and ES) to get to the files of an external SD Card or not ???

thearclight said:
...sounds good to the fact that I won´t expecting more for this price. Hey 157€ is´nt very much for an 10.1" tablet...
...I´d got also my LG P990 as Android device and smartphone...believe Me...I know what it means being betrayed...no updates...Tegra ? - nVidia ?...I don´t wanna talk about it...lol
It´s rooted and I never got problems with some apps about this fact...ok it´s still on 2.3...thanks LG, by pretending the update comes in May 2012...
I´d send an e-mail to the support of LCpower, by asking about an list of compatible 3g Sticks...10min. later...Answer and an Exel-file with the whole list...great service...´til now...
I just hope that I´d bought 2 "nice" family tablets for a few funny games, sometimes a movie, some social networking...nothing more.
Hope I did´nt misunderstood something here...
...is it only possible with another Explorer (like Astro and ES) to get to the files of an external SD Card or not ???
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well, the external sd card behaves a bit strange (at least for my understanding of android)
in short:
we have 2+1 memories in the tablet:
1 internal memory (small, i think 256mb, quite full with the android os and the apps)
1 other internal memory (the 8GB)
1 slot for the sd card, the +1 memory
now, everything begins at / (i figure this is the small internal memory)
the 2nd internal memory with 8gb is mounted under /mnt/sdcard and i believe /sdcard (where i would expect the sdcard!)
the sdcard itself can be found at /mnt/extsd
es file explorer has some trouble with that. if you launch it, it will start in /sdcard
since it does not recognize root, you can not go to /
since you cant type in the path by hand you can not go to /mnt
so apparently you cant browse the sd card with es file explorer (or i havent figured it out yet)
the preinstalled file explorer has no trouble with it at all. in fact, it even actually sends you to the right memory when you tap the corresponding symbols (as preinstalled file explorers go, it is actually not so bad)
ive tried setting up some symlinks but failed. maybe i did it wrong, maybe it just wont work.
another possibility to fix it could be editing fstab. but this could be dangerous and/or cause more problems then it helps
i filed that as a minor inconvenience to be adressed when im bored enough

...
Ok...this means...that I just hope that the Mira2 is accepting my microSD16GB and I can use it quite as normal...
In 2.3 it´s still the structure: " /mnt ---> /mnt/sdcard ---> /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD"
Is this structure changed in 4.0 ?

thearclight said:
Ok...this means...that I just hope that the Mira2 is accepting my microSD16GB and I can use it quite as normal...
In 2.3 it´s still the structure: " /mnt ---> /mnt/sdcard ---> /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD"
Is this structure changed in 4.0 ?
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well on my mobile phone (motorola defy with cm7.2) i have /sdcard and /mnt/sdcard - actually being the sdcard
i also have /sd-ext which is empty
i dont know if that is the default for all android versions and/or if there are differences in sd-card mount points in android
however, the behaviour of the phone seems more logical (or its just that i am used to it)
whatever it is... the sd card of the tablet can not be accessed by /mnt/sdcard/ANYTHING
however, further research especially with the es file browser has shown that indeed you can browse the sd-card /mnt/extsd by switching the two in the favorites options.
so, maybe it makes sense, maybe it dont.
maybe its andorid 4.0.4 conform, or not.
what is important is that apps apparently dont mind (they do get installed on the 8gb internal memory mounted at /mnt/sdcard and /sdcard) and so far have yet to refuse to work/show strange behaviour
also, it is possible to move/copy etc files between /mnt/sdcard and /mnt/extsd and browse both directories, at least with the default android file explorer as well as es file browser.

So...a little update...the 2 devices are now in our hands...for about one week...
....and everything I can telling 'bout them...
,,.they're working great. Not a single bad issue, no freezes, and as far as we can see...
...for a price around 160€ there is no better tablet on the market.
Since yesterday I run the game Wild Blood (Unreal Engine 3 Game) which is most famous for an app who killed some tablets and phones...but nit the mira2 ...it's playable.
The device was also rooted "out of the box" but I can't find a single problem with the external SDcard or other USB Hosts I tested.
Sent from my MIRA-2 using xda app-developers app

Had the same issue thanks for the help guys

*RANT* bad Android memory management

Guys I have problem with Android smartphones. I am not the youngest anymore and remember the first PCs and first smartphones with 32x less memory then an average handheld device has today. I played with them all and know what they could do. The thing that still continues to surprise me till today on Android is WHY the heck can't an app stay in memory without being quit on the first occasion?? I really think that Android will never be usable for any serious work if things keep closing or reloading just after a few switches between apps!
Some examples: why can't I switch between Chrome browser and Onenote to type something without having that webpage be reloaded again using more data and sucking more battery power? I learned not to risk writing any bigger post into some forum lately because if I would have to switch to another tab to check some info or switch to another app the in progress text would most likely be lost because webpage would reload! Why is it so risky to switch out of some game to write a message or check calendar because it is very likely to be killed and my progress lost? The phones I used recently (Xiaomi Mi2s, Xperia Z3 compact, Xperia Z5 compact) have frikin 2GB of memory, so I wonder if nowadays apps are so much more memory demanding then before that this is simply still not sufficient. I just checked settings and some apps I just tested use few tens of MB, so it is still comparable to the times of Windows 98 or Windows mobile IMHO.
My first smartphone was windows mobile Samsung Omnia II with just around 90MB of usable memory and let me tell you that this problem was not happening on it! I could have several tabs with webpages (even non mobile versions) open and could safely switch on the camera, take pictures, write an sms and go back without having to worry that anything will be closed or reloaded! Why can't I open a camera app on Android and take a photo without having the previously open app be closed?
I can even compare today's android phones to one of my oldest pcs back in year 2000 or so. Imagine that it had just 64MB of RAM. I could have open many webpages in Internet Explorer (yeah it was far the best at that time , a few editors for web and text editing and I could even play some game and alt+tab back and forth without any problem! That was Windows 98 guys. Of course you will tell me that today's web pages for example are much bigger then in 2000. OK but what about mobile versions huh? I don't think they are that big so a phone with 2GB of RAM would choke.
I always thought that apps are supposed to be paused/frozen when I switch out of them but left in memory. Unfortunately it seems apps are being killed surprisingly often even when settings / memory shows hundreds of RAM free. The thing that is even more weird to me is that apps I had open just a few seconds ago are being closed upon switching to some other one and back, but the ones which I had active hours ago often stay in memory! That does not make much sense. Why doesn't android kill the longest not active apps first instead? OK, so do I have to buy OnePlus 3 or Meizu Pro 6 with 6GB of RAM to be able to keep simple 3 apps open without worrying that they will reload when switching out of them? As I showed this does not happen on much older devices with similar specs, so is this some fundamental flaw/feature of Android architecture or am I missing some simple explanation?
If you have experience with Windows Phones or iOS regarding this please share and compare.

So it seems everybody agrees
But I would really like to know some of your experience with other phones from the fruit company for example...

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> Why doesn't android kill the longest not active apps first instead?
There is some heuristic going on that calculate the oom priority and modifies /proc/PID/oom_adj so. For example (foreground) services have lower oom_adj (less likely to be killed by oom-killer). Actually I ended up adding code to my app that overrides /proc/PID/oom_adj to a really low number to keep it running (but that requires root - I also dont understand why *the user* does not have a chance to say "hey android keep running this app in the background!")
> Unfortunately it seems apps are being killed surprisingly often even when settings / memory shows hundreds of RAM free
Yeah that "low memory value" (ie when to kick off the oom-killer) is also set somewhere in /proc (?) It's 200MB on my phone with 2 gigs ram IIRC. To test what's getting killed (and whenl, etc.) this app is superb: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tspoon.androidtoolbelt
it's all even more annoying because starting even basic apps (like dialer or contacts etc. etc.) takes even seconds(!) if they are not in memory already (on any phone!) ... oh, well, java

Thanks for a reply! Have anybody tried MIUI? There is an option to lock an application and supposedly prevent it from being killed when multitasking. Just swipe up in tasks view and it marks it with a lock. I have just read this article and it seems manufacturers set these LMK values. I have a feeling they are really high for Sony phones. Maybe if I root mine I would be able to change those. Unfortunately it seems without root I cannot even view these values. They show as 0 in /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/ and cannot be opened. I can't open those oom files either.

yeah, defo need root for this

Oh and it gets worse. Because of this behaviour many apps use a nasty trick of setting up an alarm (usually with wake lock) triggered every second to make sure they are running (if a process is not running and there is an alarm for that process set up, the process is started).
So what happens is that the OOM/low-memory killer kills the app it is started by android framework the next second ... and it might get killed by oom-kiler again ...
It's interesting to run "apktool d foobar.apk" and grep the smali for "AlarmManager.set" on apps that want to run in the background ...

CleanMaster app is good and it saved me from exhausted internal capacity issues many times (on Z3Compact) and it also shows apps which frequently restart. Is that because of what you just wrote? I remember it was Pinterest a lot for example.

and it also shows apps which frequently restart. Is that because of what you just wrote? I remember it was Pinterest a lot for example.
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sounds like it could be the case but you it's hard to tell for sure - you would have to have a look at logcat at least

I have logcat. What would you search for there?