[Q] Rooting and stock: Official and Custom device status - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Strange thing...
I successfully rooted with the Framaroot method.
I think it's one of the most discreet rooting method since it doesn't require to modify the recovery nor to flash anything with Odin.
I think it just uses the Exynos exploit in some way, and since my stock firmware JB 4.1.2 (N8000XXCLL3) is not one of the more recent ones (that probably fix the exploit) I could root with it.
After that I could happily see that my device status was still "Official".
I checked that well after rebooting more than one time. I also checked that the status was "Official" also in "Download mode".
Anyway, after a couple of days of normal usage (I didn't do anything strange with the root, apart from accessing some system file) I saw that my status had changed to "Custom" .
My suspect is that there's some Android service that periodically (yet infrequently) checks for a rooted device, changing the device status accordingly if it finds some trail of root.
Stranger yet is that, upon rebooting once again, my status has now come back to Official
So... does anyone knows better what triggers the device status from Official to Custom and back to Official when there's no modification in the stock Rom?

Exynos exploit changed mine to custom, tried 3 times to get rid of it, always went to modified then custom after a few minutes/ hours. I'm cool with it tho, doesn't hamper what I do with my note. I've seen others reporting similar scenarios

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[Q] 'custom' status with official rom

This is getting frustrating!
Once a full uk rom became available I did a full, clean install using Mobile Odin to retain root. When I check status immediately the report is 'official'. Now the problems begin. I have tried a restore from Titanium Backup, a manual install of all my apps one by one and also just letting Google Play do its stuff, and after each sometimes within a couple of hours, this last time I managed overnight, my status is reported as 'custom'.
Any ideas as to what is causing this please?
Which status you're talking from? The one in the settings? That happens sooner or later when the Note is rooted, the systems seems to check this from time to time and set the status to "Custom". But why bothering, it does not harm. Even OTA do work with that.
The status custom in Odin download mode is a different store (but it remains official as long as not recovery or other non-Samsung flash is done).
Yes, the one in settings. Once the status changes to custom if I tap 'software update' then do a check I get a message saying my device has been modified so updates unavailable.
Then you did anything else, my status there is also custom, but I was offered the latest OTA without problems. Nevertheless, I downloaded the latest update from sammobile and flashed it with Mobile Odin. So I don't care about that status.
You are rooted ??
If so run Triangle away to reset rom counter .
Flash stock rom via Odin then factory reset should put device to normal status .
Root can interfere with or prevent OTA use Kies and reroot .
jje
Why so complicate?
Get the update/rom from sammobile or here, use Mobile Odin and flash the update on the tablet. With the pro version, the tablet remains rooted and everything is fine. Mobile Odin is an excellent tool and worth the few bucks to get the pro version.
Odp: [Q] 'custom' status with official rom
I have the same problem. I tryied to install script sd2internalsd and Iinstall busybox and i think that orogram change my status to custom. Now - my note cant take an update.
I try use Triangal away but das not work. Any idea?
tapnięte z mojego Note'a 10.1 3G

Device Status Official -> Custom

After installing Triangle Away 2.60 just to check the counter, (which showed 0) my Device Status has changed from Official to Custom.
It was Official before running Triangle Away to reboot into the counter screen.
I did not commit any changes!
Note 10.1 JB 4.1.2 STOCK ROOTED
What gives?
UPDATE:
Using Triangle Away's Workaround: System modified workaround seems to have returned the Device Status back to Official.
Just a quick question, did you root with the exynos exploit then upgrade to the newest version of JB?
I found that using the exynos exploit would set my status to custom even after flashing stock rom...
nope, it was not rooted before
Please to tell me why?
Hy guys, i turn to recovey mode. how about "system status" why that always showing custom not official? any one can to tell why? thanks.
Maybe you flashed a custom rom or recovery into your device.
Hard to say given so little information.

[Q] OTA update starts then stalls out

Hi been looking at a lot of the threads about the OTA and making it work and I haven't seen anyone with the problem I am having.
So I have gotten S-Off with the Java Card, Installed CWM Recovery, flashed root, flashed tether and extreme power savings.
I also installed AdAway and updated the gps with FasterFix. Also froze a bunch of apps with Titanium.
Those are the only things I can think of that have altered the "stock rom" but I could be missing something here.
So to install the OTA I have tried the following
I defrosted the verizon bloatware and revereted AdAway and the GPS
I reflashed the stock recovery from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708291
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723112
those "stock recoveries" are different file sizes but both of them produce the same following error:
The OTA starts normally and the recovery starts up and says Updating Verizon system or something like that... The progress bar gets about a third of the way there then I get the recovery screen.. sort of like this image:
http://htcevohacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/htc-evo-recovery-mode-4.jpg
but where the triangle is inside the phone icon.
From there nothing and I have to reset the phone and then get the message that the OTA failed.
The only things that I can't undo are the extreme power savings and the mobile tether.
I have also looked at this tread to find out the exact stock recovery for my edition and they don't have it specifically hosted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
in that thread it has instructions to look up the specific recovery based on CID and mine came up with 1.12.605.11 which seems to be nowhere to be found... So bottom line I am not sure if the recovery I have flashed from the two other sources is the exact correct recovery.
Anyone else is this boat or can help me out.
I have the same issue as this. I also have the power saver on and the wifi tether update. Sounds like it might be something with one of those.
This method worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159

[Q] Rooting question with not fully loaded OTA update

I own a Verizon SCH-I535 that had version 4.1.2 and after months of avoiding the Verizon update I stupidly pressed install now instead of later. I did have enough mind to take the battery out before it could reboot but my question is can I still root? And can I still use the 4.1.2 method? I don't want to install any roms just wish to uninstall any bloat apps.
I had a very similar issue some time ago. Check out my thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607252
I went in a few circles, soft bricked my phone, but was able to recover. I think the important thing is to verify if your bootloader has been locked or not; boot into odin/recovery mode and checkout the messages posted in my thread. If the bootloader is not locked yet then you have options. If it is locked, you should probably just reboot the phone and let it do it's thing as the locked bootloader cannot be reverted.
Depends on how important this is to you. My wife got the 4.3 update and loves it, but she is not the type to do any customization. I now have a CM 10 d2vzw and am happy. It I were to do this again, I would probably verify you have an unlocked bootloader and re-flash the complete stock 4.1.2 image as I did. Issue is, you will probably lose a lot of data & settings, but things like pictures, etc. should sitll be there. Once the stock 4.1.2 is there you will want to root and disable updates, or else flash a new rom.
The 4.3 update (and anything after it) locks the bootloader. If that's a big deal to you, then you need to push some custom roms. If not, towelroot works on everything so far, so you'd be able to reroot (pretty hassle free) and do what you want.

[Q] Acer A700 system bar missing

I bought an Acer A700 tablet off ebay, was supposed to be new unused condition. Booted it up and it had no system bar at bottom of page. That means you can't get out of any app you have to reboot, useless. Thru reading on site and exploring this tab i found out it has super user installed on it and on bootup in the left hand corner it reads "boot loader ICS-MRI 7173de1 (unlock mode)" every thing on the tablet seems to work except no navigation bar, no circle in center, and no status info no bar at all full screen. I have played with this thing been on Acer chat and they say hard ware failure. That is before i new it was rooted, i guess that is the reason the update he wanted me to try did not work. I don't know if i try a new OS system if that will even work. I am 68 years old and this is my first android tablet, new ground for me. Most every thing i read is above my knowledge, would appreciate any advice i might just try it. thanks ahead of time
demo mode
Is there a demo mode on this acer A700 and if so where to look thanks
easyreble said:
I bought an Acer A700 tablet off ebay, was supposed to be new unused condition. Booted it up and it had no system bar at bottom of page. That means you can't get out of any app you have to reboot, useless. Thru reading on site and exploring this tab i found out it has super user installed on it and on bootup in the left hand corner it reads "boot loader ICS-MRI 7173de1 (unlock mode)" every thing on the tablet seems to work except no navigation bar, no circle in center, and no status info no bar at all full screen. I have played with this thing been on Acer chat and they say hard ware failure. That is before i new it was rooted, i guess that is the reason the update he wanted me to try did not work. I don't know if i try a new OS system if that will even work. I am 68 years old and this is my first android tablet, new ground for me. Most every thing i read is above my knowledge, would appreciate any advice i might just try it. thanks ahead of time
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Ok, so whoever you bought it from, told you an outright lie. The bootloader is unlocked, and, it most likely has a custom OS installed on it. You can check this by going into "Settings" "About Tablet" and seeing what is installed on it.
Or,
The previous owner had root access (obviously) and went mucking around with the SystemUI.apk and goobered something up (most likely). In fact, I would guess he had CM installed and didn't like the way the nav icons were (in the center) and tried doing something about it by modifying files he had no idea of what to do.
The most simple fix, would just be to install a fresh version of either a custom ROM, or, revert it back to a stock factory ROM. Both of which are relatively easy to do.
MD
EDIT: Other things to look for now that I think about it. Check your applications and see if any of the following are installed.
Launcher (Nova, Go, etc) These sometimes have an option to disable the system bar (Nav Bar).
ExPosed Installer - This allows loading of custom exposed frameworks mods that several have the option to disable the System Bar (nav bar)
Any Nav Bar/System Bar "Hide" application. These at one time were useful to open more display real estate for games. (not many use them anymore)
Those applications you can safely uninstall through Settings/Applications, then reboot.
Other than that, I can't think of anything else. Will wait till you tell us which OS is installed (CM; Cyanogen Mod, PA; Paranoid Android, etc)
Oh, and one more thing. Stop talking to those folks on Acer Chat. This is a software issue, and not a Hardware issue. This I can promise.
easyreble said:
Is there a demo mode on this acer A700 and if so where to look thanks
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"Demo" mode, is not a configurable option on most devices. In reality, it is a custom software from Acer that is installed for Store Display purposes. Several items have been left out of the build, specifically to prevent casual customers from mucking things up.
This is generally fixed by installing a full ROM.
MD
Moscow Desire said:
Ok, so whoever you bought it from, told you an outright lie. The bootloader is unlocked, and, it most likely has a custom OS installed on it. You can check this by going into "Settings" "About Tablet" and seeing what is installed on it.
Or,
The previous owner had root access (obviously) and went mucking around with the SystemUI.apk and goobered something up (most likely). In fact, I would guess he had CM installed and didn't like the way the nav icons were (in the center) and tried doing something about it by modifying files he had no idea of what to do.
The most simple fix, would just be to install a fresh version of either a custom ROM, or, revert it back to a stock factory ROM. Both of which are relatively easy to do.
MD
EDIT: Other things to look for now that I think about it. Check your applications and see if any of the following are installed.
Launcher (Nova, Go, etc) These sometimes have an option to disable the system bar (Nav Bar).
ExPosed Installer - This allows loading of custom exposed frameworks mods that several have the option to disable the System Bar (nav bar)
Any Nav Bar/System Bar "Hide" application. These at one time were useful to open more display real estate for games. (not many use them anymore)
Those applications you can safely uninstall through Settings/Applications, then reboot.
Other than that, I can't think of anything else. Will wait till you tell us which OS is installed (CM; Cyanogen Mod, PA; Paranoid Android, etc)
Oh, and one more thing. Stop talking to those folks on Acer Chat. This is a software issue, and not a Hardware issue. This I can promise.
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You are correct, i will never talk to acer support again. I am getting ready to install a rom if i can figure out which one to start with. It has Adroid Veersion 4.0.4 Kernal version 2.6.39.4+ Boot loader ICS-MRI 7173de1 (unlock mode) It has superuser app installed, I did download an app which gave me a navigation bar that i am using till i can get a rom installed. My problem is that looks like i need to upgrade this 4.0.4 ICS before i can install the up to date roms is that correct. Thanks for helping be get this straight this is a lot for an old man to take in lol.
easyreble said:
You are correct, i will never talk to acer support again. I am getting ready to install a rom if i can figure out which one to start with. It has Adroid Veersion 4.0.4 Kernal version 2.6.39.4+ Boot loader ICS-MRI 7173de1 (unlock mode) It has superuser app installed, I did download an app which gave me a navigation bar that i am using till i can get a rom installed. My problem is that looks like i need to upgrade this 4.0.4 ICS before i can install the up to date roms is that correct. Thanks for helping be get this straight this is a lot for an old man to take in lol.
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4.0.4 should be the original ICS ROM. If you get it installed, it should get you a locked bootloader, and hopefully offer the upgrade to JellyBean (4.1.x I believe)
Don't worry about age, I'm not far behind you
Have an issue, just PM me and I'll see if I can help.
MD
Moscow Desire said:
4.0.4 should be the original ICS ROM. If you get it installed, it should get you a locked bootloader, and hopefully offer the upgrade to JellyBean (4.1.x I believe)
Don't worry about age, I'm not far behind you
Have an issue, just PM me and I'll see if I can help.
MD
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No that is what is on my tablet now unlocked and rooted. thanks. i am not clear as to get it upgraded form 4.0.4 and not sure if i need to upgrade to put new rom on it, and which one to work with. I have all my info downloaded on my computer, got to get a cable to work with. Just not sure if i can put the newest version on it without flashing it back to stock locking the boot loader upgrading and then rooting it again just to much i may need to take a break after 3 days of reading, but i have learned a lot. thanks what do u think
easyreble said:
No that is what is on my tablet now unlocked and rooted. thanks. i am not clear as to get it upgraded form 4.0.4 and not sure if i need to upgrade to put new rom on it, and which one to work with. I have all my info downloaded on my computer, got to get a cable to work with. Just not sure if i can put the newest version on it without flashing it back to stock locking the boot loader upgrading and then rooting it again just to much i may need to take a break after 3 days of reading, but i have learned a lot. thanks what do u think
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Well, 4.0.4 ICS (ice cream sandwich) is the OS these tablets were shipped with. Then, it generally, after some days, would upgrade to 4.1x (jelly bean) Gotta love Google and the names.
Now, considering your tablet has SU (Superuser), and and unlocked bootloader, means somebody mucked with it, hence the missing NAV(Sys) bar. Dude undoubtedly mucked around with things.
As I stated before, this can happen due to several different reasons. How it got to that point, who knows.... In testing ROMs, Ive had this issue by installing a different SystemUI.apk that didn't match all the other files, Or, by "dirty" flashing a ROM without wiping /System partition.
Basically, to get it back to a completely stock A700, you will need to install a stock Factory A700 ROM. the 4.0.4 version. Should be able to find one quite easily, but if not, let me know and I'll help.
Basically, you rename that Stock ROM to "update.zip", copy it to ext SD, then boot the tablet holding "VOL+ then PWR and it "should see the zip and start to install it. "Should".
If not, then I can walk you through the steps to install a custom recovery, and we can do it that way. Acer, with JellyBean, actually has a somewhat recovery menu. Not sure if the 4.0.4 has it or not. Been too long. It may just look for "update.zip" and try and install it.
So will just have to see how it plays out.
For my own, I use "fastboot" so install image files to revert back, but that's just me. Also I have an A701, so it wouldn't do you much good
Same hardware so to speak, except for the 3g part and some different files.
MD

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