Is it possible to download MMS when mobile data is off and Wi-Fi is on? Everything I've read says not possible, is it a greedy carrier thing to use mobile data? Manufacturer? Android? I could have sworn I used to do it fine on HTC phones or Motorola's. I don't get any notifications about MMS of Wi-Fi is the only one turned on. Can we change it with a different ROM?
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No it's strictly data. Think of it this way, texts are sent through your data signal and service so in order to receive that picture you download it through your data which uses that signal to retrieve it. Idk if I make sense but this is what I've been told.
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Hmmm thanks. I wonder why i don't get notifications for it though
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Try using the "textplus" app in playstore. You can send mms/text and even call voip via wifi connection.
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Even better
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39020706
Make sure to thank the OP.
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The Verizon Message App didn't fix the phone to allow you to download pictures sent via text over wifi... Still have to turn off Wifi and turn on Mobile Data in order to get the pictures. I think this sucks as I just switched to Verizon from Sprint less than a week ago and with Sprint you could get those pictures on wifi or mobile data. Its just a ploy to make you use more data and there has to be a way around it as it is Carrier Specific and NOT Phone Specific...
I use the vzw msg app with avail data, and the textplus app via wifi. Working for me so far.
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smlawrence said:
The Verizon Message App didn't fix the phone to allow you to download pictures sent via text over wifi... Still have to turn off Wifi and turn on Mobile Data in order to get the pictures. I think this sucks as I just switched to Verizon from Sprint less than a week ago and with Sprint you could get those pictures on wifi or mobile data. Its just a ploy to make you use more data and there has to be a way around it as it is Carrier Specific and NOT Phone Specific...
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Doesn't appear to be as you describe it -- I've been struggling to get MMS picture messages through (from my Galaxy Nexus / toro / VzW) when the phone is also connected to WiFi. Digging pretty deep into the issue (a few people still working on it), it appears to actually be a bug (google this for a lot of eye-burning reading ). Anyway - taking a break from the detective work trying to figure out how to make it work, I installed Verizon Messaging on both my Galaxy Nexus and my Nexus 10, which - as you can imagine - has NO cellular connection. I'm also in my home office at the moment, in a finished basement with incredibly poor VzW network connectivity. After failing at being able to send/receive a picture MMS for the last few hours, installing Verizon Messaging seems to have done the trick: I can now easily send / receive picture MMS from the phone while it's connected to WiFi with barely any usable VzW network signal.
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Doesn't appear to be as you describe it -- I've been struggling to get MMS picture messages through (from my Galaxy Nexus / toro / VzW) when the phone is also connected to WiFi. Digging pretty deep into the issue (a few people still working on it), it appears to actually be a bug (google this for a lot of eye-burning reading ). Anyway - taking a break from the detective work trying to figure out how to make it work, I installed Verizon Messaging on both my Galaxy Nexus and my Nexus 10, which - as you can imagine - has NO cellular connection. I'm also in my home office at the moment, in a finished basement with incredibly poor VzW network connectivity. After failing at being able to send/receive a picture MMS for the last few hours, installing Verizon Messaging seems to have done the trick: I can now easily send / receive picture MMS from the phone while it's connected to WiFi with barely any usable VzW network signal.
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As long as both are on it will work. MMS goes through a Verizon data only server. That it what the problem is.
personaly, i don't get it. how hard would it be to have a 3rd party intercept an MMS and send the attactment via email thereby sending it via WIFI?
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Hello.
I know similar threads can be found on related subjects, but I've easily gone over 25 threads and have made 0 progress.
I recently flashed {ROM} Ninja-07061 on my Inspire 4G and I'm absolutely in love with it. So far, it's my favorite ROM and I really want to keep using it.
The problem lies in the fact that I can't send or receive any MMS messages without first connecting to the mobile network, something I haven't had to do in all the non-cyanogen mods I've tried.
I've tried changing APN settings, using different messaging apps and pretty much all I know I can do without risking any damage to my phone.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, if there is anything I should post that could aid in solving the problem, please tell me, I am very very new to this entire android thing and I'm trying to learn as much as possible, but there are things that I still have no clue about.
Thanks in advance.
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I've had a similar problem with earlier versions of the ROM. I don't send enough MMS messages to know if this works, but at one point I had added an MMS-only APN. Something like what is mentioned in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
Let me know if it works.
Thanks... unfortunately it didn't work :/
I've tried many different APN options and I still get the same results. MMS I received are stuck at "downloading" and ones I send are stuck at "sending".
The issue is with the way cm based Roms change the apn when disabling data. They disable the apn completely. While other stock based rom's don't disable the mms part of it. MMS use a little but of data and that's why you see the data arrows work when you send an MMS .
Okay, let me see if I understand.
CM based roms don't let me download or send MMS because they don't automatically connect to the mobile network to do it?
I noticed that I can send and receive while on the mobile network but not while disconnected (or while I'm connected to wifi).
Originally this worried me since I have a free MMS plan, which I believe should work separately from the mobile data connection, but I don't really know how it works (because I'm a total noob >.<).
I've read a little and it seems that MMS will be free, but they still require me to be connected to the mobile network. From what I can discern, this means that most stock roms (sense based) force a connection whilst sending or receiving an MMS and CM roms don't?
If that's so, is there a way to get the messaging app to force the connection, or will I have to connect to the mobile network every time I want to send/receive an MMS? I try not to have the connections enabled due to battery life and the fact that my data plan is capped.
Sorry for the wall of text, just trying to get used to the entire android scene :/
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Okay, let me see if I understand.
CM based roms don't let me download or send MMS because they don't automatically connect to the mobile network to do it?
I noticed that I can send and receive while on the mobile network but not while disconnected (or while I'm connected to wifi).
Originally this worried me since I have a free MMS plan, which I believe should work separately from the mobile data connection, but I don't really know how it works (because I'm a total noob >.<).
I've read a little and it seems that MMS will be free, but they still require me to be connected to the mobile network. From what I can discern, this means that most stock roms (sense based) force a connection whilst sending or receiving an MMS and CM roms don't?
If that's so, is there a way to get the messaging app to force the connection, or will I have to connect to the mobile network every time I want to send/receive an MMS? I try not to have the connections enabled due to battery life and the fact that my data plan is capped.
Sorry for the wall of text, just trying to get used to the entire android scene :/
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You got it. The only way I was able to do it is to activate data (which I normally keep off due to wifi everywhere and being on a prepaid plan) when I send an MMS. There are apps that control what can connect to data. I think apndroid is one of them.
The reason sense works is that it has its own built in MMS settings seperate from the apn settings.
Okay, guess I'll have to try some stuff out, at least I can rest easy knowing what's up now.
Thanks a billion.
No problem.
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Any way to do this? I've only got SMS and mms working using mod but wanted to make calls using my simcard in the xoom
Look into groove IP and Google voice....
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Glock stole my thunder. Groove IP and Google Voice works like a charm.
What about just actually making calls using my sim card without data on the mobile network itself
i would like to know this as well
I had it working from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21812012 the patch here...tho it kinda made the system unstable ...when id open phone (the dial pad? It would always force close....also the speakers & mic arent active so may be you could try ur luck with a bluetooth headset !
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mox123 said:
What about just actually making calls using my sim card without data on the mobile network itself
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Do you mean calling off wifi as opposed to using a 3g or 4g network? If so, then yes you can with groove ip. I have the mz602 without mobile data enabled, and am able to call people off my google contacts with my tablet. To disable mobile data I believe you just swap your tablet to airplane mode. I havent been able to recieve calls but, from what I understand, that is just a matter of changing the settings and enabling google chat.... it is somewhere in the forums, another thing in my list of things to do
Hope this helps
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Do you mean calling off wifi as opposed to using a 3g or 4g network? If so, then yes you can with groove ip. I have the mz602 without mobile data enabled, and am able to call people off my google contacts with my tablet. To disable mobile data I believe you just swap your tablet to airplane mode. I havent been able to recieve calls but, from what I understand, that is just a matter of changing the settings and enabling google chat.... it is somewhere in the forums, another thing in my list of things to do
Hope this helps
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Can my motorola xoom wifi work with my sim card because i wanna make phone calls with it and also receive sms and mms on, as my mobile phone
I am having an issue with wifi calling on a my One S. For background info I am using a completely stock rom, I am rooted and I have only removed non t-mobile related apps like where's my water and movie editor.
My issue is this, I have wifi calling disabled in settings and yet every time I connect to a wifi hotspot whether at home or anywhere else it attempts to use wifi calling. when it does this I lose all cellular signal and can no longer receive/send calls and texts. I have tried factory resetting the phone as well as calling t-mobile. I was on the phone with them for about 2 hours or so last night and still no fix. Just curious as to what I should do to fix this issue or would it be easier to just get an exchange on the phone.
I have also tried setting up wifi calling but at the same time I would prefer to use my phone connection for calls due to irregularity in hotspots i connect to, hence the reason I have it disabled altogether.
Any help is appreciated
Try setting wifi calling to cellular preferred
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Yeah that doesnt seem to help either. I am just about to take phone back and try another. I hate not being able to use my phone my WiFi. No matter what setting I use I can't seem to send or receive any calls or texts. The instant my WiFi connects I get a big X on my cell signal indicator.
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I am having an issue with wifi calling on a my One S. For background info I am using a completely stock rom, I am rooted and I have only removed non t-mobile related apps like where's my water and movie editor.
My issue is this, I have wifi calling disabled in settings and yet every time I connect to a wifi hotspot whether at home or anywhere else it attempts to use wifi calling. when it does this I lose all cellular signal and can no longer receive/send calls and texts. I have tried factory resetting the phone as well as calling t-mobile. I was on the phone with them for about 2 hours or so last night and still no fix. Just curious as to what I should do to fix this issue or would it be easier to just get an exchange on the phone.
I have also tried setting up wifi calling but at the same time I would prefer to use my phone connection for calls due to irregularity in hotspots i connect to, hence the reason I have it disabled altogether.
Any help is appreciated
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This problem is stupid but is easy to fix. Whenever you finished using wifi calling feature, the phone's radio is auto-turn off. That why you can't call or send text message. Open dialer pad, type *#*#4636#*#* ==> phone information => turn on radio. I believe this is a bug because i never have this problem before when i used htc sensation,mytouch 4g
Like any stock carriers SMS service you don't need mobile data or wifi to send and receive messages, I believe they are sent over the background just by being connected to said carries network. Is there an app or is it feasible to send SMS over the network without charging me? I only get 200 messages/month and I currently use text plus and its a battery sipper. I hate the fact I also need power hungry 4g enabled on my phone just to get my messages. Any help? Thanks
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Fausto77 said:
Like any stock carriers SMS service you don't need mobile data or wifi to send and receive messages, I believe they are sent over the background just by being connected to said carries network. Is there an app or is it feasible to send SMS over the network without charging me? I only get 200 messages/month and I currently use text plus and its a battery sipper. I hate the fact I also need power hungry 4g enabled on my phone just to get my messages. Any help? Thanks
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Who is your carrier? Pretty sure you do not need 4G (or any data) to send/retrieve SMS, only MMS.
You can disable your 4G data to save battery power, but you can still get/make calls and send/retrieve SMS. I personally use a data on/off widget that I place on my home screen, which makes it real easy to turn on/off the data to save the battery. I only turn it on when I need to use the internet in some way (or for MMS). It's called Data ON-OFF by Antonio La Rocca. It's free, very simple and works great (widget even looks good and has a few skin options).
Or you can simply go into your settings to disable 4G/3G data manually. Settings -> Wireless and network -> Mobile networks -> and uncheck "Use packet data". This will leave only the basic connection to your carrier for calls and SMS. You will still get a prompt for MMS, but you will need to enable the data to download/view it.
I have yet to see one that provides true free txt, all i have seen require the use of data, so being near a wifi hotspot or enabling your data seems to be the only way to go, would be interesting to know if there is an actual free sms service without the use of data.
I know that I can use att SMS. I'm talking about a 3rd party app
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Hi everyone, sometimes my phone just doesn't receive real-time notification like Whatsapp messages when connected to the cellular network (WiFi works fine); the data usage settings are already without any restriction and the app don't have data restrictions.
Once I set-up all the restrictions I need and I fear something remained, but it doesn't seem to be in an obvious place.
Marshmallow edit: apparently it was something related to Android restrictions that even if they were not shown were still there. If someone has this issue just reset all the app settings and it should work.
Any idea?
Tya,
Marco
Mtk87 said:
Hi everyone, sometimes my phone just doesn't receive real-time notification like Whatsapp messages when connected to the cellular network (WiFi works fine); the data usage settings are already without any restriction and the app don't have data restrictions.
Once I set-up all the restrictions I need and I fear something remained, but it doesn't seem to be in an obvious place.
Any idea?
Tya,
Marco
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Are you using straight talk? If not what carrier? Straight talk, for example, closes ports after a period of time of inactivity. Which is why I left them over a year ago among other things, but mostly that.
I'm on T-Mobile, but I was on T-Mobile too 2 months a go with a different data plan and I don't recall it was happening.
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