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Are 4.2 roms becoming far more stable?

So I have been on Beans for a while and I love it since it is tw with a aosp touch and feel but lately I have been noticing in the developmental thread that there are now far more 4.2 roms out there. I know that aosp has been pretty damn buggy just a month or so back but are they now stable? or dare I say it almost daily driver worthy? Im actually in the process of downloading the latest liquid smooth rom to check it out and I cant wait to see the results.

I've tried all the 4.2 ROMs and the only one where everything works on my phone; GPS, MMS, call volume etc, is mastamoons build. I know ROMs work different on everyone's phone though.
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I think that most of them are stable in the sense that they can be daily drivers depending on what features you need.
All of them except for baked black bean and mastamoons unofficial builds use a new audio stack that breaks Bluetooth audio streaming.
All of them have issues with encrypted Wi-Fi tethering.
I've been using the baked ROM, it's awesome. Haven't had any random crashes, audio and GPS work well, and data is pretty good for the most part
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funnyperson1 said:
I think that most of them are stable in the sense that they can be daily drivers depending on what features you need.
All of them except for baked black bean and mastamoons unofficial builds use a new audio stack that breaks Bluetooth audio streaming.
All of them have issues with encrypted Wi-Fi tethering.
I've been using the baked ROM, it's awesome. Haven't had any random crashes, audio and GPS work well, and data is pretty good for the most part
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So baked has everything working so far? Honestly for me I never ever use blue tooth or wifi tethering which is why that has never really bothered me. As long as data, sms, (group texting is the main reason i want to go to 4.2) and gps works then I am totally fine. Oh and of course battery cant be totally horrid haha

blackguy101 said:
So baked has everything working so far? Honestly for me I never ever use blue tooth or wifi tethering which is why that has never really bothered me. As long as data, sms, (group texting is the main reason i want to go to 4.2) and gps works then I am totally fine. Oh and of course battery cant be totally horrid haha
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That's my daily right now. This is my battery from my first cycle with Ktoonsez
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jakereeves31 said:
That's my daily right now. This is my battery from my first cycle with Ktoonsez
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holy f*ck that is amazing! is ktoonsez a kernal? truth be told I usually just flash roms but I never used kernals just because im not too familier with them. but where can i find the download link to it? Im downloading baked as we speak and id be more than happy to try ktoonsez out along with it

blackguy101 said:
holy f*ck that is amazing! is ktoonsez a kernal? truth be told I usually just flash roms but I never used kernals just because im not too familier with them. but where can i find the download link to it? Im downloading baked as we speak and id be more than happy to try ktoonsez out along with it
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Here you go, bud http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853816
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is it possible to just install the tw gallary in camera and use that instead? or does it have to the aosp stuff?

blackguy101 said:
is it possible to just install the tw gallary in camera and use that instead? or does it have to the aosp stuff?
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Has to be aosp.
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I've been running Baked BlacKBean7, for 2-3 weeks now, so yeah, I guess you could call it a daily driver.

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jakereeves31 said:
That's my daily right now. This is my battery from my first cycle with Ktoonsez
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Mind posting your settings for this kernel? Thanks man!
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trying blackbean 7 right now... pretty sweet so far!
also curious on your ktoonez settings if you can post them up.
thanks

Mastamoon's 1/18 build of CM works great. It's the only 4.2 ROM I can find with functioning bluetooth.

AOSP & data speeds

So I've been running CleanROM 5.6 for awhile and it hasn't been updated in awhile. I really want to give AOSP a shot but last time I flashed CM10, I had constant data drops, it was actually pretty bad compared to CleanROM. I was hoping to get some opinions on some AOSP ROMs, data stability being top priority. 4.2 would be great, however I'm ok with flashing an earlier release as long as data works as expected. Thanks
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If you want a nice stable fast and beautiful different aosp ROM with plenty of mods. Use slim bean. Very nice. Its my aosp go to. I like the DPI. Dont forget to flash the all in one package with it. It has lots of goodies. And includes the gapps. Peace.
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Mastamoons cm10.1 builds data has been fixed for awhile now, when i'd run a 4.2 rom i'd always run his.
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I prefer LiquidSmooth over both of these above 4.2 AOSP ROMs.
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PAC man ROM is the way to Go. I haven't been back on TW in a while
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Carbon ROM is legit
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Shibby87 said:
So I've been running CleanROM 5.6 for awhile and it hasn't been updated in awhile. I really want to give AOSP a shot but last time I flashed CM10, I had constant data drops, it was actually pretty bad compared to CleanROM. I was hoping to get some opinions on some AOSP ROMs, data stability being top priority. 4.2 would be great, however I'm ok with flashing an earlier release as long as data works as expected. Thanks
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how about you do a test for us and report back lol
dont use data enough to really notice. only on when im using it. then its off again.

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ddurandSGS3 said:
how about you do a test for us and report back lol
dont use data enough to really notice. only on when im using it. then its off again.
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Ha, I'm still on unlimited so I use my data a lot which is why I'd like an aosp ROM with reliable data connection.
From what others have said here and in the development sections, it looks like I'm gonna try carbon and liquid smooth first, I'll test and report back
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Rootbox is pretty nice

PsiPhiDan said:
I prefer LiquidSmooth over both of these above 4.2 AOSP ROMs.
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Well, I've used both liquid and carbon enough to run through the motions and the winner wound up being carbon. This is purely based on 4G lte speeds in my area (Philly, PA), I'm not saying one is better because they are both equally unique in their own way, I just tend to have a better signal with carbon, battery life and performance was pretty much a wash.
Hopefully this is useful to those in the same boat
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I've had no problems with CM10.1 (M1) ... I just upgraded to M2 today and things look good so far but I haven't really given it much burn-in time to find issues.

4.1 ROM: Jelly 'Beans' - Build 12
4.2 ROM: [OFFICIAL] AOKP | d2vzw | jb-mr1 build 5 -OR- CarbonROM -OR- RootBox
If you want a 4.2 ROM and would like a hybrid, I'd go with PAC-Man ROM

Shibby87 said:
Well, I've used both liquid and carbon enough to run through the motions and the winner wound up being carbon. This is purely based on 4G lte speeds in my area (Philly, PA), I'm not saying one is better because they are both equally unique in their own way, I just tend to have a better signal with carbon, battery life and performance was pretty much a wash.
Hopefully this is useful to those in the same boat
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Carbon always worked best for me as well. My signal does seem to be significantly lower and data is slower than on tw roms though. But the AOSP benefits far outweigh the signal hit

salas2324 said:
PAC man ROM is the way to Go. I haven't been back on TW in a while
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i just loaded PAC rom. so far so good. but i did notice something.
cant post on dev threads yet.

vonrandy said:
Carbon always worked best for me as well. My signal does seem to be significantly lower and data is slower than on tw roms though. But the AOSP benefits far outweigh the signal hit
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I'm currently on Jelly Beans Build 12 and I absolutely love it. I don't know why but everytime I was on AOSP I found myself missing touchwiz. Although I go back and forth between Beans and Liquid. I loved some of the bells and whistles AOSP had but I keep finding myself coming back to Touchwiz. What are your ideas of the benefits that AOSP has. I find myself missing lock screen widgets and a few of the subtle things in the build.

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I'm currently on Jelly Beans Build 12 and I absolutely love it. I don't know why but everytime I was on AOSP I found myself missing touchwiz. Although I go back and forth between Beans and Liquid. I loved some of the bells and whistles AOSP had but I keep finding myself coming back to Touchwiz. What are your ideas of the benefits that AOSP has. I find myself missing lock screen widgets and a few of the subtle things in the build.
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I think AOSP far outweighs touchwiz in every aspect. TW does have some pretty neat features like gestures and popup widows, however AOSP just feels right, not hacked together like TW. Every Android device should come shipped with it. I don't really see the need for TW, Sense, Blur etc, besides corporate branding.. None of them can hold a candle to pure Google Android IMO.
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I've noticed ever since going from a TW ROM (CleanROM 5.0) to an AOSP based ROM (Slim ROM, Carbon ROM, LiquidSmooth and currently ParanoidKANDdroid) that the data connection all around seems weaker than the TW based ROMS. For me all the AOSP ROMS mainained the same 4G speed, and had data drops in all the same areas. Some local area where I live I get great service/4g, others I have no 4g at all and am lucky to have any 3g on top of that. Only downside of the aosp based roms

Going from AOSP to TW Rom..

I have been on AOSP roms on my d2vzw for 6 months but there are just some deal breakers right now (reboots, a2dp, etc.) and I think I have to bite the bullet and go back to a TW based rom. I know there are about 3 out there. I guess Beans, Hyperdrive, and cleanrom. It looks like beans takes a while to update, hyperdrive seems to have some lockscreen issues and cleanrom isnt vesy customizable (e.g. cant change the toggles in notification drawer). What would you guys think is the best of the 3? How quickly will I want to go back to an AOSP rom? Thoughts?

It's all personal preferance. Nobody can pick the "best" rom for you. Try a few out and see how you like them. And for my reply won't be 100% usless, cleanrom 6 is great. It's smooth, fast, and all that jazz
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You can try Delta Two... It's a customizable TW rom. I was just on it but switched back to AOSP and flashed Carbon
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I second delta 2 it's a wonderful rom :thumbup:
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I will check out delta and then beans. Gotta love making backups haha

I'm on the carbon 1.5 myself with the GideonX kernel and they have been working great for me.
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You can also try Galaxy mod which is highly customizable and pretty stable.
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Should I update?

I am currently on Cyanogenmod 9, and I am hearing great progress in Cyanogenmod 10 and 10.1 and also the SlimBean 4.2.2. Should I update to these or wait? What is the difference between slimbean and cm? Cm10 or Cm10.1?

4.1 is has pretty much the same stability as ICS. GPS doesn't work though (the GPS on his device is crap so it doesn't really make a difference). WiFi doesn't work on 4.2, so if you're itching the flash a new ROM id go with the pacman ROM which is 4.1.
Slimbean has more customization options than cm.There really isn't even much of a difference between 4.1 and 4.2, I think there's only lock screen widgets, different notification toggles and offline Google now so you're not really missing out

I'd probably wait as those are all Jellybean based but most still have issues whereas CM9 is pretty stable.
CM10 is Jellybean 4.1.2, most things works but still a bit buggy. Probably not a lot more DEV on this as 10.1 should be the new goal.
CM10.1 is Jellybean 4.2.2, a lot less stuff works but getting there.
Slimbean are just a variation of the above, just slimmed down. They take out all the garbage they can to make it run the best and give us the most space. There is a slimbean 4.1.2 and 4.2.2, both have roughly the same problems as the above ones do.
They're getting closer to getting them working though.

pisherthefisher said:
4.1 is has pretty much the same stability as ICS. GPS doesn't work though (the GPS on his device is crap so it doesn't really make a difference). WiFi doesn't work on 4.2, so if you're itching the flash a new ROM id go with the pacman ROM which is 4.1.
Slimbean has more customization options than cm.There really isn't even much of a difference between 4.1 and 4.2, I think there's only lock screen widgets, different notification toggles and offline Google now so you're not really missing out
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getochkn said:
I'd probably wait as those are all Jellybean based but most still have issues whereas CM9 is pretty stable.
CM10 is Jellybean 4.1.2, most things works but still a bit buggy. Probably not a lot more DEV on this as 10.1 should be the new goal.
CM10.1 is Jellybean 4.2.2, a lot less stuff works but getting there.
Slimbean are just a variation of the above, just slimmed down. They take out all the garbage they can to make it run the best and give us the most space. There is a slimbean 4.1.2 and 4.2.2, both have roughly the same problems as the above ones do.
They're getting closer to getting them working though.
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I don't care much for the GPS, it's just that they say that 4G reboots so you have to be on 2G speeds, and 2G is very slow. WiFi doesn't work either. So this makes the phone very internet-less.

AnAznBoy9724 said:
I don't care much for the GPS, it's just that they say that 4G reboots so you have to be on 2G speeds, and 2G is very slow. WiFi doesn't work either. So this makes the phone very internet-less.
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The 4G thing was like 10 versions ago of JB. Works fine now in the latest. Wifi works in CM10/Slimbean 4.1.2, just not the latest but hopefully soon. I've been running the Xperia Slimbean 4.1.2 for the past 3-4 days as my daily usage with no issues.

getochkn said:
The 4G thing was like 10 versions ago of JB. Works fine now in the latest. Wifi works in CM10/Slimbean 4.1.2, just not the latest but hopefully soon. I've been running the Xperia Slimbean 4.1.2 for the past 3-4 days as my daily usage with no issues.
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So there is SlimBean that's like CM but a little more, then there are more SlimBeans that are based off the original SlimBean?!

AnAznBoy9724 said:
So there is SlimBean that's like CM but a little more, then there are more SlimBeans that are based off the original SlimBean?!
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Slim is based off CM. All custom ROMs are based off CM. Unless there just modified stock.

hechoen said:
Slim is based off CM. All custom ROMs are based off CM. Unless there just modified stock.
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Oh makes sense.
I think I'm going to update to SlimBean 4.1.2.

Try out ultragen 1.0.1 it is just so fast
I have flashed every ROM and i keep going back to ultragen. It's super snappy and everything works. Just my two cents
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Vismis said:
Try out ultragen 1.0.1 it is just so fast
I have flashed every ROM and i keep going back to ultragen. It's super snappy and everything works. Just my two cents
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I don't want an GS3 themed phone with all those features it comes with.

Installing themes is insanely easy. It is by far the fastest ROM if you want a ROM pre installed with a theme you like you won't have a good time
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Vismis said:
Installing themes is insanely easy. It is by far the fastest ROM if you want a ROM pre installed with a theme you like you won't have a good time
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I don't care for themes...

AnAznBoy9724 said:
I don't want an GS3 themed phone with all those features it comes with.
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Seems like you do care but whatever ultragen is still the fastest out atm and for all those features your talking about i have no clue because ultragen is pretty basic when you compare it to other roms. It only takes moments to make any rom look how you want. It's all about feel and ultragen feels the best imo
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Took only 5 mins to make ultragen look completely different. While still being the fastest
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Took only 5 mins to make ultragen look completely different. While still being the fastest
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I just said I don't care for theme, and how do you know this ROM is the "fastest"?

Easily is the fastest and i know this from personal experience flashing every ROM xda has for this phone. Everyone cares about themes unless you like stock cm9 which is still a theme that can be applied to ultragen so it looking like sg 3 means nothing. Ultragen also can have one of the best battery lifes if you prefer that over performance.
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Easily is the fastest and i know this from personal experience flashing every ROM xda has for this phone. Everyone cares about themes unless you like stock cm9 which is still a theme that can be applied to ultragen so it looking like sg 3 means nothing. Ultragen also can have one of the best battery lifes if you prefer that over performance.
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hey mr.
i like ultragen features
but the settings and status bar themes!keeps me away with that rom..
i like slimbean setting, its little font etc.. even if lots of bugs...

PuNeTZzZ said:
hey mr.
i like ultragen features
but the settings and status bar themes!keeps me away with that rom..
i like slimbean setting, its little font etc.. even if lots of bugs...
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Download jellybean cm theme on the play store. Go to settings>themes and apply it. Bam, you just got ultragen that looks like jellybean

pisherthefisher said:
Download jellybean cm theme on the play store. Go to settings>themes and apply it. Bam, you just got ultragen that looks like jellybean
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do it include jellybean settings?

PuNeTZzZ said:
do it include jellybean settings?
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The settings window looks like CM if that's what you mean. Themes only change the look, not the actual functionality.

Indesicive

Hey, so i have a question for all of you veterans on here. Im mildly experimental, so i just do the basic flash a rom here and there deal. However, im running hyperdrive rls14 with stock kernel on my Verizon s3. Since it gives me options to have beats audio, aosp email and clocks as well as other great features like the touchwiz motion controls, I've been running it for a few months now.But ive realized its heavy on my battery life, and my phone has been getting hot more often than before. I felt like that partially due to the amount of ram it takes up. So does anyone have any good suggestions as to what i run? Because ive heard things such as pure stock is boring and want to make a good decision.

You can still run this, but I suggest you try the things that you want installed, and those that you think you can live without remove them. I think that will make a huge difference.
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If flashing something different I'd say check out Andybones bonestock ROM. Along with the AOSP theme. Slicker than owl snot as my dad would say.
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One thing I can never really grasp is what does also have to offer that touch wiz doesnt
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katrais said:
One thing I can never really grasp is what does also have to offer that touch wiz doesnt
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Also = AOSP, right? Well there's Halo, nightlies, "less" lag, faster updates (currently at Jb 4.2.2, TW is at 4.1.2), no TW bloat, (customizable) soft keys, and a host of other things. It's not what AOSP has that TW doesn't, sometimes it's what AOSP does not have which is why folks choose to avoid TW.
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Umm why in the hell do you have 2 threads asking same things?

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One thing I can never really grasp is what does also have to offer that touch wiz doesnt
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My favorite thing about aosp is that it uses very little ram and TW uses a lot
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Also = AOSP, right? Well there's Halo, nightlies, "less" lag, faster updates (currently at Jb 4.2.2, TW is at 4.1.2), no TW bloat, (customizable) soft keys, and a host of other things. It's not what AOSP has that TW doesn't, sometimes it's what AOSP does not have which is why folks choose to avoid TW.
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Truth. Unbelievably smoother than TW.
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jmxc23 said:
Umm why in the hell do you have 2 threads asking same things?
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wheres the second one

katrais said:
wheres the second one
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2371768
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