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Am I being unrealistic in my expectations WRT playback of video on the Transformer? (NB After some of the replies below, I've added this comment to emphasise my point - I am NOT talking about high-def video here [e.g. 720p], just normal PAL or NTSC video taken from standard DVDs.)
I've ripped some DVDs using Handbrake on my Mac, using the default High Profile settings. The resulting h.264 files play smoothly and nicely on the Mac.
However, on the Transformer, the playback is juddery.
These are standard-resolution DVD rips, from TV shows and movies.
I wouldn't have been surprised for HD content to be a bit dodgy, but I was surprised not to be able to play SD content smoothly.
Has anyone else got good video playback (i.e. do I have a dodgy tablet) or is the Transformer with its Tegra 2 really not up to playing full-screen SD video?
Don't use high profile. Search before you post - there is many threads about video issues of Tegra2 devices here and in Xoom forum.
Why do people keep doing this, you have a Google tablet, Google this.
The Tegra 2 has a strange limitation, it doesn't play high profile. Before you make the mistake everyone else does, high profile is not a measure of quality, its the measure of compression. The bit rate is the quality.
Put it on high profile go to advanced, turn off 8x8 transform and Weighted P Frames and Subpixel ME to 6, use MP4.
Don't bother with other peoples presets, just use Moboplayer and you will be good with this setup.
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OK, thanks to you both for sorting me out with this. I did (contrary to appearances) try to find a thread on this topic but failed. Clearly I must brush up on my searching skills.
What about YouTube playback? Even this works terrible on my transformer. It keeps droping how of frames with latest firmware update.
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What about YouTube playback? Even this works terrible on my transformer. It keeps droping how of frames with latest firmware update.
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there will be an update for this, also the browser player works fine for me.
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OK. After some testing with the first chapter of the Matrix DVD (because I have it to hand and it's got some nice pans and action to check the juddering against), I have found that the following settings in Handbrake give me acceptable performance on my Transformer with the h.264 codec. This is standard-definition video, please note, NOT high-def.
Note that sorting this out is far from as simple as "Google it" because there are a great many mutually contradictory sets of advice out there!
I took the Normal profile, then went to the Advanced tab and disabled CABAC and set the max B frames to 0.
This was the least dramatic setting that gave smooth playback on my Transformer. So I guess I should repeat my original question - given that my tablet appears to require much lower video settings than generally advised AFAICS in order to get smooth video playback (it's hard to measure this but this is my preception), should I worry? Or is this pretty much what everyone finds with the Transformer?
(The easiest way to get smooth video seems to be just to switch to the MPEG-4 codec and to increase the quality to about 3 to compensate. However, this gives files that are 40-50% larger, so I wanted to avoid that if possible.)
I usually use Handbrake for everything but I was in a hurry so I tried Freemake Video Converter. I converted a few downloaded x264 MMA videos. It has built in settings for Android. I was surprised how well it looked.
I'll still probably go back to Handbrake as soon as I have time to setup and test various suggested settings listed here and some other forums.
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Why do people keep doing this, you have a Google tablet, Google this.
The Tegra 2 has a strange limitation, it doesn't play high profile. Before you make the mistake everyone else does, high profile is not a measure of quality, its the measure of compression. The bit rate is the quality.
Put it on high profile go to advanced, turn off 8x8 transform and Weighted P Frames and Subpixel ME to 6, use MP4.
Don't bother with other peoples presets, just use Moboplayer and you will be good with this setup.
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Thanks for the info.
Are you using handbrake? If so, are you using constant quality, bitrate or target size for your encode?
The Tegra 2 supports 720p High Profile Hardware Decoding, but Honeycomb can't utilize it yet. 3.1 or something later should address this.
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The Tegra 2 supports 720p High Profile Hardware Decoding, but Honeycomb can't utilize it yet. 3.1 or something later should address this.
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Link please?
NOT about high-def content
Can I reiterate that my query is NOT about high-def content (e.g. 720p)? I'm talking here about being able to view simple SD content from a DVD I've bought, without juddering.
Can other folks view standard DVD rips on their Transformers using standard Handbrake settings, with no juddering during whole-screen update sections (e.g. pans or action sequences)?
I just used Adobe Media Encoder CS5 (part of the Creative Suite) to encode a file and it played flawlessly on my xformer. I used the Apple TV Preset as a base then modified the profile from main to baseline.
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I used the Apple TV Preset as a base then modified the profile from main to baseline.
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Could you share which modifications you made? As I don't have access to CS5, I'd need to reproduce the settings on my software.
Thanks!
there's a handbrake profile for video encoding for the transformer. search for it.
seshmaru:
Unless you know something is there then you don't know to search for it. Now I know, I have searched and found that what I posted above is basically the situation - no B frames, no CABAC.
That being said, all the discussion I have seen has been based on 720p content rather than standard def so it's not clear to a newcomer to video issues that tthe same restrictions necessarily apply.
Anyhow, that seems to be the answer so thanks to all for the help.
I seem to be getting poor quality from the MHL to HDMI adapter...it's like the output is the same resolution as the phone's display (800x480) and it's just stretched to fit the screen...makes it look I'm watching an old DVD... Anybody else experiencing this? And is there a fix?
I'm also having this problem as well as the adapter not pushing Audio to the TV at all. Really frustrating.
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I seem to be getting poor quality from the MHL to HDMI adapter...it's like the output is the same resolution as the phone's display (800x480) and it's just stretched to fit the screen...makes it look I'm watching an old DVD... Anybody else experiencing this? And is there a fix?
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it will do this anytime it mirrors the screen. it seems the video player can switch to the mhl output only where i'd assume it plays the native resolution of the video. unfortunately i havent had a chance to test it on a high quality video.
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it will do this anytime it mirrors the screen. it seems the video player can switch to the mhl output only where i'd assume it plays the native resolution of the video. unfortunately i havent had a chance to test it on a high quality video.
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Okay, so if video plays at a high quality, then why do still pictures still look like crap? Do I have to use a special player for these too?
Seems to be application dependant to me. I tried the HBO GO app the first time I connected my phone to the TV and the quality looked pretty bad. But when I tried some of the HD movie trailers that came preloaded they looked really nice. Not Bluray quality but I'd say they were as good as most 720p streaming services.
I think the HBO mobile app limits the streaming quality so that
a: it works better on small screens
b: you won't want to connect it to a tv
I also downloaded a 720p mvk of Dr Who and tried playing it over HDMI and it looked almost as good as when I play it on my HTPC.
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Seems to be application dependant to me. I tried the HBO GO app the first time I connected my phone to the TV and the quality looked pretty bad. But when I tried some of the HD movie trailers that came preloaded they looked really nice. Not Bluray quality but I'd say they were as good as most 720p streaming services.
I think the HBO mobile app limits the streaming quality so that
a: it works better on small screens
b: you won't want to connect it to a tv
I also downloaded a 720p mvk of Dr Who and tried playing it over HDMI and it looked almost as good as when I play it on my HTPC.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108641
+1 on the HBO GO app... I just wish it would transfer true HD quality to the big screen.
i think only samsung specific apps will be able to use high res. it seems that if the phone screen is on it will be in wvga resolution, the video processor wont put out 2 resolutions at the same time. with the video player specifically it will turn off the phone screen so it is not mirroing a low res picture but instead it is switching to a different video mode entirely. we can only hope that they give us a better photo gallery app that can do this as well and that 3rd party apps will be able to detect mhl and switch to mhl only mode.
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i think only samsung specific apps will be able to use high res. it seems that if the phone screen is on it will be in wvga resolution, the video processor wont put out 2 resolutions at the same time. with the video player specifically it will turn off the phone screen so it is not mirroing a low res picture but instead it is switching to a different video mode entirely. we can only hope that they give us a better photo gallery app that can do this as well and that 3rd party apps will be able to detect mhl and switch to mhl only mode.
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Ugh...any known mhl apps for viewing still pictures? Tried googling but I just seem to be getting a lot of Nhl hits...
I just purchased an acer a510 and one thing I don't like is it crops the bottom portion of the screen over hdmi. I assume this only happens if the output display is 16:9 which mine is. No tv option will fix this for me.
I did some googling and found an article about an update for the transformer prime:
. Besides that, is the ad hoc support for Ice Cream Sandwich and two new modes for the HDMI interface, crop and scale.
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from this link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/transformer-prime-firmware-update/
Too bad this isn't in stock ice cream sandwich but it sounds like asus has added it. I hope they added it for tf300 as well. If so, can someone tell me if it scales properly? In that it retains a proper aspect ratio or does it simply squish the image ensuring it fits but with an incorrect aspect ratio.
Or too bad there isn't a utility to change the resolution/aspect ratio on the actual device. This feature is important enough to me that I may return the a500 for a tf300.
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I just purchased an acer a510 and one thing I don't like is it crops the bottom portion of the screen over hdmi. I assume this only happens if the output display is 16:9 which mine is. No tv option will fix this for me.
I did some googling and found an article about an update for the transformer prime:
from this link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/transformer-prime-firmware-update/
Too bad this isn't in stock ice cream sandwich but it sounds like asus has added it. I hope they added it for tf300 as well. If so, can someone tell me if it scales properly? In that it retains a proper aspect ratio or does it simply squish the image ensuring it fits but with an incorrect aspect ratio.
Or too bad there isn't a utility to change the resolution/aspect ratio on the actual device. This feature is important enough to me that I may return the a500 for a tf300.
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Yes the tf300t does have the 2 modes scale and crop. My sucks though since it wont let me change the resolution, its overscanning the display.
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Yes the tf300t does have the 2 modes scale and crop. My sucks though since it wont let me change the resolution, its overscanning the display.
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On a related note, does this use a type d micro hdmi like the playbook? Thanks
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On a related note, does this use a type d micro hdmi like the playbook? Thanks
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This is the one I got and it works great.
Yes the tf300t does have the 2 modes scale and crop. My sucks though since it wont let me change the resolution, its overscanning the display.
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Can you please explain on the above? What do you mean it won't let you change resolution. Changing resolution would be an easy fix for ice cream sandwich in general (pick a 16:9 resolution or whatever you need) but afaik that's not possible.
On my acer I have no hdmi option, so I assume it would be considered crop. As in, it displays the correct aspect ratio but the bottom portion (the ui buttons) are cropped. Which is no good for me. I assume scale would scale it so it all fits, but my concern here is how does it scale? Does it squish it and it's the wrong aspect ratio? I don't want that either. What does scale do for you vs crop?
I want to run this device at home on my monitor so this is a deal breaker for me and need to know if the tf 300 will do this. So if you could expand on you answer (or anyone else) I would really appreciate it. Like does scale not show everything for you? Are you outputting to a 16:9 display?
As a side note, I'm certainly not a blackberry fan, but my friend has a play book and it outputs to everything (I saw him try it on various displays) and it just works. And he has numerous aspect ratio scaling options but he said he never needs to tweak cause it always seems to detect the correct aspect ratio. It also has an option to turn off the pb display while outputting to hdmi (I was looking for apps to darken the screen). Hell, I was really impressed that he could pipe a movie out to his tv and still browse the web on his playbook. I'm a fan of android for numerous reasons and not switching, but it's a shame to see the first version of the playbook get all this right from the start and not on android.
I've seen youtube clips of people outputting to displays and not being cutofff, I assume they were 16:10 displays.
If so my options are get a 16:10 display instead (just got this display, really don't want to return it but if I have to maybe so) OR I want to determine if the ASUS solution actually works.
Otherwise, are there any resolution/aspect ratios utilities for ice cream sandwich? I couldn't find any. This shouldn't be up to asus to fix, it should be in stock ics, but if asus is the one that does this right, I'll return this tomorrow.
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Can you please explain on the above? What do you mean it won't let you change resolution. Changing resolution would be an easy fix for ice cream sandwich in general (pick a 16:9 resolution or whatever you need) but afaik that's not possible.
On my acer I have no hdmi option, so I assume it would be considered crop. As in, it displays the correct aspect ratio but the bottom portion (the ui buttons) are cropped. Which is no good for me. I assume scale would scale it so it all fits, but my concern here is how does it scale? Does it squish it and it's the wrong aspect ratio? I don't want that either. What does scale do for you vs crop?
I want to run this device at home on my monitor so this is a deal breaker for me and need to know if the tf 300 will do this. So if you could expand on you answer (or anyone else) I would really appreciate it. Like does scale not show everything for you? Are you outputting to a 16:9 display?
As a side note, I'm certainly not a blackberry fan, but my friend has a play book and it outputs to everything (I saw him try it on various displays) and it just works. And he has numerous aspect ratio scaling options but he said he never needs to tweak cause it always seems to detect the correct aspect ratio. It also has an option to turn off the pb display while outputting to hdmi (I was looking for apps to darken the screen). Hell, I was really impressed that he could pipe a movie out to his tv and still browse the web on his playbook. I'm a fan of android for numerous reasons and not switching, but it's a shame to see the first version of the playbook get all this right from the start and not on android.
I've seen youtube clips of people outputting to displays and not being cutofff, I assume they were 16:10 displays.
If so my options are get a 16:10 display instead (just got this display, really don't want to return it but if I have to maybe so) OR I want to determine if the ASUS solution actually works.
Otherwise, are there any resolution/aspect ratios utilities for ice cream sandwich? I couldn't find any. This shouldn't be up to asus to fix, it should be in stock ics, but if asus is the one that does this right, I'll return this tomorrow.
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I skipped a word in the message you quoted. It was suppose to read My TV sucks.... My problem is that my TV only has two aspect ratios 4:3 and 16:9 so when I connect my Pad to it my display gets cropped on the top and bottom. I have tried researching this around the web and the answer I've gotten is that my TV sucks, since it has no option to do 1:1 or change the scanning options. The scale mode is the full screen with status bar and the crop mode is the display without the status bar.
In the end it depends on the monitor you're going to be using, how it reads the hdmi and the options you have to edit this. I've been trying to find answers to see if somehow I can change the resolution of the 300's output to better fit my TV. So far no luck...
The scale mode is the full screen with status bar and the crop mode is the display without the status bar.
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Well I guess my display sucks too as it only has 16:9 or 4:3. Sorry to ask for further clarification but so why doesn't scale mode work for you? That's the option I was hoping to choose. Does everything fit but then it's squished? Crop is all I currently have. Again, I assume a 16:10 display would solve this, but it's funny, googling this and I saw the old ICS announcement and ICS's official resolution is a 16:9 resolution. I dunno, changing the resolution of the display shouldn't be this big a deal. I can't find any utility that does this.
Anyway, still not sure if asus's solution actually fixes this. Even if there was a way to pan the desktop so I could see the button's when I need them, I dunno something.
I have no idea, I'll post some picture of my TV displaying both mode at the end of this post. What I can tell you is that when playing videos the screen resizes correctly, yes weird wild stuff. As far as I can tell Netflix doesn't crop the video, nor does MX Player and CrunchyRoll. I was planning on using this feature for games. As you will see in my pictures when using Scale mode my display gets cropped on the top and the bottom, and when I'm in crop mode my display gets cropped practically every side, more so on the sides.
Like you say there should be an easy way to fix this with an app or something. I've searched the market for solutions, haven't found anything yet. T_T
I just tried a video on CrunchyRoll, just when I selected the video the whole screen shrinked to the correct side, weird, and the video doesn't crop anything I can see the subs perfectly. Hopefully someone will find a solution...
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Hey thanks for the pictures I really appreciate that. Hmm, it looks like your crop is almost ok. It's hard to tell if the aspect ratio is being screwed with. I'm just looking where the word 'settings' is in both pictures and noticing that you almost have the buttons on the bottom, so it seems like more is being displayed. I suspect it is squishing it though and not doing a correct aspect ratio change. Hard to tell with just text. If you are curious what it is doing, find an image of a perfect circle and switch between the modes and see if it becomes slightly oval in one or the other.
But I was joking that we have crap displays. Just about all 16:9 displays or 16:10 displays can do one or the other. Like imagine buying a monitor and your nvidia card couldn't push out a 16:9 res and you needed to get a different display. I just looked in my manual and they have various quoted resolutions and a couple are 16:10. If there was a simple way to invoke it in ICS I'd be in business. I wonder though with yours could it actually be your monitor, cause it looks like it's almost correct. Well, I'm looking at the second image that you indicate as crop but I'd have expected that to be scale. On my acer 510, the top, left, & right are perfectly aligned, it's exactly where the menu buttons begin that are missing.
Oh and just to mention, mine is perfect playing movies as well, not just because it's a 16:9 display, but ics over hdmi does different resolutions when a full screen video is launched. Or from what I've read anyway. I wonder if that is true for someone who is doing this on a 16:10 display? Do they just have black borders on 16:9 content or do they still have the ui buttons? I suspect black borders...
I've wasted a better part of a day trying to find a solution and the only solution seems to be get a 16:10 monitor which sucks to put it lightly. I've never mucked with dpi settings and I know some do that if their fonts/gui are too small. I don't know if changing the dpi has any affect on the actual resolution used by the device.
Anyway, if I find out more I'll post it here, even though we currently have different devices, there may be a general solution, but it sounds like it will take an OS update. I was hopeful that asus addressed this issue themselves, but looking at your shots it's hard to know is it always like that or does it work on other displays.
I tried the perfect circle thing and they both looked the same to me.
Well that's a good thing the circle looks the same in both. That's means they are not mucking up the aspect ratio but clearly you are seeing more (although not all) of the android interface.
Hmm, I wonder if Asus does do it correctly and for some weird reason it's just not working on your display. It's good to see someone is tackling this, but again it should be google not asus, and then others hoping other vendors do the same.
You are hooking via hdmi correct? Just wondering if you are using an adapter going hdmi to vga on your monitor. if so, vga sometimes needs to be resized/centered, but hdmi is normally automatic and most if not all displays won't even give an option to modify hdmi resizing/centering.
Damn it, I really like my acer otherwise, have about 10 days to return it for an asus cause I really want the entire interface to fit on my screen.
Can anyone else who has a 16:9 display hook theirs up via hdmi and try scale/crop and see if one fits perfectly? But asus is really impressing with this and including usb over ethernet drivers, which I'm not sure if mine has as I may buy one to wire over my network.
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Well that's a good thing the circle looks the same in both. That's means they are not mucking up the aspect ratio but clearly you are seeing more (although not all) of the android interface.
Hmm, I wonder if Asus does do it correctly and for some weird reason it's just not working on your display. It's good to see someone is tackling this, but again it should be google not asus, and then others hoping other vendors do the same.
You are hooking via hdmi correct? Just wondering if you are using an adapter going hdmi to vga on your monitor. if so, vga sometimes needs to be resized/centered, but hdmi is normally automatic and most if not all displays won't even give an option to modify hdmi resizing/centering.
Damn it, I really like my acer otherwise, have about 10 days to return it for an asus cause I really want the entire interface to fit on my screen.
Can anyone else who has a 16:9 display hook theirs up via hdmi and try scale/crop and see if one fits perfectly? But asus is really impressing with this and including usb over ethernet drivers, which I'm not sure if mine has as I may buy one to wire over my network.
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Yep I'm hooking it through HDMI, if I had a VGA I would be able to rescale the screen, sicne my TV apparently has an option called PC Setup (only available when connected through VGA)
Well, hopefully some other kind soul could try this via hdmi on a non 16:10 display and tell the results.
I found this on an acer forum. Someone was talking about subtitles not displaying on the hdmi display but were displaying on the tablet when playing hw accelerated content:
Also, another issue (and this is reported by many Android users), using Dice player Hw decode (or any other player with HW decoding) over HDMI, the subtitles are not displayed on the TV but only on the tablet. I wrote to DICE player devs and they replied:
"The overlay including subtitle when HW accelerated should be supported by manufacturer. The Android framework does not have any interface for HDMI, so the HDMI output depends on manufacturer's implementation.
But the most devices do not support the HDMI output with the overlay, so it is to hard to support it."
So it seems that is up to Acer to implement this in a future firmware (but I doubt it).
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My issue isn't subtitles obviously, but I find it concerning that it sounds from the above it's up to the vendor to deal with hdmi, and it sounds like only asus has tried to address this, and still not sure if their method actually works.
I still feel it should be up to google, but I guess I shouldn't hold my breath for them to ever address this.
Hmm, one issue I have is flash content full screen crashes over hdmi. Also, using the mobile youtube app automatically goes full screen over the hdmi display but not on the tablet. I thought this may be a standard for video but maybe that's just how acer has tackled it. If you use the youtube app does content automatically go fullscreen?
And google may not have a framework for hdmi but they should have a means of changing resolution or aspect ratio. I'm still convinced it's possible to change resolutions (even on bootup or something) just haven't found how yet.
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Well, hopefully some other kind soul could try this via hdmi on a non 16:10 display and tell the results.
I found this on an acer forum. Someone was talking about subtitles not displaying on the hdmi display but were displaying on the tablet when playing hw accelerated content:
My issue isn't subtitles obviously, but I find it concerning that it sounds from the above it's up to the vendor to deal with hdmi, and it sounds like only asus has tried to address this, and still not sure if their method actually works.
I still feel it should be up to google, but I guess I shouldn't hold my breath for them to ever address this.
Hmm, one issue I have is flash content full screen crashes over hdmi. Also, using the mobile youtube app automatically goes full screen over the hdmi display but not on the tablet. I thought this may be a standard for video but maybe that's just how acer has tackled it. If you use the youtube app does content automatically go fullscreen?
And google may not have a framework for hdmi but they should have a means of changing resolution or aspect ratio. I'm still convinced it's possible to change resolutions (even on bootup or something) just haven't found how yet.
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Youtube app goes automatically full screen on mine too, and FREAKING CRAP youtube app is getting cropped from all side woooooooooooowhoooooooooooooo. Going to try through opera desktop mode
I just double checked my video apps and they are all cropping the image T_T
Hmm, I normally wouldn't suspect the display, but maybe in your case it is. I found this post regarding the transformer prime and he was complaining that over hdmi it's only outputting 720 when the device is capable of more. By the numbers he's quoting, his output is 16:9 and the display looks like it perfectly fits. He is right, that we should be able to specify higher than 720 but I'd be happy at this point with 720 that fits.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26480838#post26480838
So either the prime does it right and the transformer doesn't, or you have an issue with your display. Could you check mobile you app and tell if it auto-fullscreens? I suspect that was something acer did.
It's really too bad google doesn't have a framework for this, we'll probably have devices for the next few years that have no hdmi options, or barebones options.
From what I gather, even if I figure out a way to force my device to boot with a custom res, the hdmi output will take over and go back to 720 (and not 16:9)
Wow, all this crap I've been reading and I wouldn't have even known there was a problem if I had a 16:10 monitor instead...
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Hmm, I normally wouldn't suspect the display, but maybe in your case it is. I found this post regarding the transformer prime and he was complaining that over hdmi it's only outputting 720 when the device is capable of more. By the numbers he's quoting, his output is 16:9 and the display looks like it perfectly fits. He is right, that we should be able to specify higher than 720 but I'd be happy at this point with 720 that fits.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26479317#post26479317
So either the prime does it right and the transformer doesn't, or you have an issue with your display. Could you check mobile you app and tell if it auto-fullscreens? I suspect that was something acer did.
It's really too bad google doesn't have a framework for this, we'll probably have devices for the next few years that have no hdmi options, or barebones options.
From what I gather, even if I figure out a way to force my device to boot with a custom res, the hdmi output will take over and go back to 720 (and not 16:9)
Wow, all this crap I've been reading and I wouldn't have even known there was a problem if I had a 16:10 monitor instead...
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By mobile you app, do you mean the youtube app? As I said before, it does automatically go full screen while video playing, even when on the tablet the video isn't playing on full screen. I sent a technical inquiry to ASUS about my specific problem, with a picture of my tv cropping the display. It sucks that it crops videos too...
Anyone else tried connecting their 300 to an HDTV through HDMI??? Seems I'm the only one.
ok if you said that earlier I missed that. Yes I mean the youtube app and not the browser. It goes fullscreen automatically for me and was curious if asus devices did the same.
And youtube via the browser crashes if I invoke fullscreen if I am using hdmi, but I think this bug is only with the acer and not the asus.
Not sure if you looked at the attached link, but that guy's display looks perfect to me (although of course, only 720) and his monitor is 16:9. I wish someone here would confirm it works properly for them with the tf300 with a non 16:10 display.
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ok if you said that earlier I missed that. Yes I mean the youtube app and not the browser. It goes fullscreen automatically for me and was curious if asus devices did the same.
And youtube via the browser crashes if I invoke fullscreen if I am using hdmi, but I think this bug is only with the acer and not the asus.
Not sure if you looked at the attached link, but that guy's display looks perfect to me (although of course, only 720) and his monitor is 16:9. I wish someone here would confirm it works properly for them with the tf300 with a non 16:10 display.
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The attached link took me to this same post, try posting it again. Also trying youtube in desktop mode mine just go into blackscreen, it doenst really crashes but I have to press home button and stop browser process.
Fixed the link above but here as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26480838#post26480838
That is kind of what happens to mine when using full screen flash via hdmi. Both screens go blank so I can't hit home on the tablet, but I hit escape on the keyboard I have plugged in and that brought me back to the tablet. The other time it seemed to entirely freeze, but maybe I didn't wait long enough for it to come back. When using the standalone youtube app, it auto full screens when using hdmi, that is what I was asking you if it does the same. Doesn't really matter, but I was just curious if asus did it the same way.
Hmm, I'm looking at my monitor's manual and it has a chart of the various resolutions supported. Some are 16:9 res, some 16:10 but none of them actually say 720. Like I would expect to see 1280 x 720 but that is not listed. Maybe that could cause an issue, but I highly doubt it and still suspect it's a tablet limitation. I think most of my friend's all have 16:10 but I'd like to try it on another 16:9.
But then my manual goes on to say:
This monitor supports full HD (480p, 576p, 720p, 1080 i/p) video content from game consoles, DVD players and other consumer video devices via HDMI.
I don't know if that is unusual that it doesn't list a 720 res in it's list of supported resolutions and the 720p is referring to video only.
Anyone here used HDMI to output to a 1080p screen via HDMI? What is the resolution of the image seen on the TV? Just 480p or actually genuine 1080p.
1) eg a photo seen on the phone screen will only ever be 480p, so mirroring thet same photo displayed on the TV will see much more detail? or just the same 480p resolution only on a bigger TV?
2) Even if you did have USB charging during use, would the drain-rate of playing video via HDMI out strip the charge-rate?
Thanks in advance for your feedback
Here's my side of the story
2old4toys said:
Anyone here used HDMI to output to a 1080p screen via HDMI? What is the resolution of the image seen on the TV? Just 480p or actually genuine 1080p.
1) eg a photo seen on the phone screen will only ever be 480p, so mirroring thet same photo displayed on the TV will see much more detail? or just the same 480p resolution only on a bigger TV?
2) Even if you did have USB charging during use, would the drain-rate of playing video via HDMI out strip the charge-rate?
Thanks in advance for your feedback
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I start by saying that I use a 1.4 HDMI cable made for Sony Ericsson phones that I found at 10 euros. My settings for HDMi output are 1080p at 50Hz - I must say that leaving it in automatic is bad cause it does like 480p as output resolution.
For photos the output fine, the 1080p and looks great, even the 3D photos. But when I'm using the camera while the phone is connected to TV the output is not 1080p but, IMO, a poor 480p. Same story with videos - while playing them give you the resolution on which they were recorded, on "live show" you got only the 480
The home screen is seen on TV at its native resolution not HDMI. The games are on the same boat, at screen resolution and not HD. Not even with the games that declares themselves HD is not working.
On the second issue: yes - the HDMI playback while charging DOES strip off the charge rate, finding yourself that after a 20 minutes of video playback while charging you have no juice left in your battery.
In my opinion the HDMI out is useful only in few situations: dual boot on the phone, letting you to use it as a computer (but this implies the USB Host active on our P920 - which still is missing), playback of files on the phone which would be impossible to play on TV - here you might get variations based on the TV set that you might own and the final use I foundshould be to use it as a game console but this also implies to have a bluetooth activated controller because playing with the phone while connected to the TV is just... a big NOOOO - only in some games that implies only the use of accelerator sensor, like racing games.
I hope that this is useful to you. I voted the second option - I use it but I'm not addicted.
Excellent response! Can you tell me how
To set 1080 output output on
the o3d because I have HDMI link but cant find the android setting page. My current setup must be in auto because photo gallery looks like worse than 480p on my TV right now.
Thanks
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Aint it possible to hack in order to acheive higher resolutions? Managed to run ubuntu, but it looks everything but good on my tv. :banghead:
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Excellent response! Can you tell me how
To set 1080 output output on
the o3d because I have HDMI link but cant find the android setting page. My current setup must be in auto because photo gallery looks like worse than 480p on my TV right now.
Thanks
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for setting HDMI go to settings => HDMI => Resolution and select from the options available (1080P at 60Hz or 1080P at 50Hz)
schubeir
One idea...maybe stupid
vitorcruzbr said:
Aint it possible to hack in order to acheive higher resolutions? Managed to run ubuntu, but it looks everything but good on my tv. :banghead:
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Have you tried to set higher resolution within Ubuntu? Like setting screen resolution. I might think it would work because will force the phone to give the application's resolution (still running Ubuntu is like running an application, because Ubuntu is not set in dual boot with Android on the phone but is working through a Virtual Machine, if I'm not wrong)
Can you tell me how you've managed to run Ubuntu on O3D? Thanks
i got another problem that is way worse. i got sound failing during videos are playing. in the movie player or in youtube, all the same, it keeps failing. the sound stops and then starts again but the image has no problem.
Nope... non. On my stock phone. Simply
No sign of HDMI settings
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Hi,
I am owner of a Sony Xperia Tablet S with a docking station(using to connect to a TV through HDMI cabel). When I connect the tablet to my TV(Samsung 1080P) It is only recognized as 720P device. That's probably OK, but when I play 1080P movie It should change to 1080P video resolution but it doesn't happen. I tried to search for a HDMI output setting in the tablet but there is no such thing, I also tried several video players, even to play exact resolution size video - 1920x1080 no change... still only 720P. And to be honest 720P doesn't look very brilliant from this tablet. I hoped to use the tablet as some kind of "all round video player".
Is there any way that I can convince the tablet to play videos in 1080P/Full HD? Any idea how to resize HDMI output resolution?
I know that it is mirroring my device, but even though it should automatically resize when playing full HD movies. (Saw it on couple of videos, where it does really work. The TV shows 1080P videos and the devices screen stays black, I guess because of their lower resolution, but that's OK.)
Rider008 said:
Hi,
I am owner of a Sony Xperia Tablet S with a docking station(using to connect to a TV through HDMI cabel). When I connect the tablet to my TV(Samsung 1080P) It is only recognized as 720P device. That's probably OK, but when I play 1080P movie It should change to 1080P video resolution but it doesn't happen. I tried to search for a HDMI output setting in the tablet but there is no such thing, I also tried several video players, even to play exact resolution size video - 1920x1080 no change... still only 720P. And to be honest 720P doesn't look very brilliant from this tablet. I hoped to use the tablet as some kind of "all round video player".
Is there any way that I can convince the tablet to play videos in 1080P/Full HD? Any idea how to resize HDMI output resolution?
I know that it is mirroring my device, but even though it should automatically resize when playing full HD movies. (Saw it on couple of videos, where it does really work. The TV shows 1080P videos and the devices screen stays black, I guess because of their lower resolution, but that's OK.)
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I guess, your tablet only supports 720p output via HDMI.. It may be your TV only allowing 720p for HDMI output. Check your TV settings...
Hope this helps!
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I guess, your tablet only supports 720p output via HDMI.. It may be your TV only allowing 720p for HDMI output. Check your TV settings...
Hope this helps!
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My TV is 1080P I am 100% sure . The TV finds by itself that it is 720P and I cannot change it anywhere in the TV menu(or in tablet). It seems that the tablet sends only 720P - which is OK, but when playing movies it should change to 1080P. The tablet itself should also support 1080P. If I could only get to service menu - there are the settings and I could change the output resolution.
Even though it doesn't seem all newer sony smartphones/tablets should support 1080P. In the service menu it is just matter of few clicks to change the resolution. I don't have permission to send links here, so type on youtube: Sony Xperia S - HDMI - Playstation 3 Controller
Rider008 said:
My TV is 1080P I am 100% sure . The TV finds by itself that it is 720P and I cannot change it anywhere in the TV menu(or in tablet). It seems that the tablet sends only 720P - which is OK, but when playing movies it should change to 1080P. The tablet itself should also support 1080P. If I could only get to service menu - there are the settings and I could change the output resolution.
Even though it doesn't seem all newer sony smartphones/tablets should support 1080P. In the service menu it is just matter of few clicks to change the resolution. I don't have permission to send links here, so type on youtube: Sony Xperia S - HDMI - Playstation 3 Controller
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Well, nearly all TV's support 1080p (4k is next ) So I guess its the Sony software limiting it. Your specs can easily output 1080p. Although the software may be limiting it, try converting the video files to 1080p resolution and give that a shot. Also I have watched a demo of the xperia s tablet in HDMI mode and some parts on the TV screen are cut, so I'm guessing it ONLY supports 720p (unfourtanatly)
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Well, nearly all TV's support 1080p (4k is next ) So I guess its the Sony software limiting it. Your specs can easily output 1080p. Although the software may be limiting it, try converting the video files to 1080p resolution and give that a shot. Also I have watched a demo of the xperia s tablet in HDMI mode and some parts on the TV screen are cut, so I'm guessing it ONLY supports 720p (unfourtanatly)
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I already tried to play 1080P movie with exact resolution no luck... The TV/Tablet hardware are capable of it, even android as software, but sony gave no option to change the resolution anually, which most manufactures don't, but they change to 1080P when playing 1080P stuff.
Only thing that is cut is the bottom navigation bar(I'm not sure how you call it.), but that's ok because the tablet is 16:10 and the TV is 16:9 so It just cuts off the black bar with navigation buttons from bottom. Otherwise it shows 100% from the screen.
As far as I know service menu would help to change it(easiest way), or some kind of app that can change HDMI output resolution? Or app that can change the resolution of the tablet itself, than I guess would the TV recognize the device as 1080P. Any idea?
Rider008 said:
I already tried to play 1080P movie with exact resolution no luck... The TV/Tablet hardware are capable of it, even android as software, but sony gave no option to change the resolution anually, which most manufactures don't, but they change to 1080P when playing 1080P stuff.
Only thing that is cut is the bottom navigation bar(I'm not sure how you call it.), but that's ok because the tablet is 16:10 and the TV is 16:9 so It just cuts off the black bar with navigation buttons from bottom. Otherwise it shows 100% from the screen.
As far as I know service menu would help to change it(easiest way), or some kind of app that can change HDMI output resolution? Or app that can change the resolution of the tablet itself, than I guess would the TV recognize the device as 1080P. Any idea?
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Well, if you want to mimic the 1080p output, then a program that uses root may be required. However, Im not sure if there is such app..
Your tablet doesnt probably have 1080p stream output capacity. Maybe you could plug it to a device with an upscaler
gilarthon said:
Your tablet doesnt probably have 1080p stream output capacity. Maybe you could plug it to a device with an upscaler
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I don't want just upscale the resolution. It won't make image any beter. As I know Tegra 3 does support 1080P, android as software too... so I can't see why it doesn't want to work? My girlfriend has also a Tegra 3 tablet(ASUS) and far as I know when she is playing 1080P it is a real 1080P on the TV and the screen(on the tablet is 720P) just stays black, I mean control buttons and everything is there, just the area where should the movie play on the tablet is black.
It seems I will have to root the tablet omg... Does anybody have an idea if there actually is an app like that? That can send it as 1080P output resolution? I tried to find service menu...no luck... if I could get there, like on the phone it would be just matter of few clicks and 30seconds of work...