Anyone here used HDMI to output to a 1080p screen via HDMI? What is the resolution of the image seen on the TV? Just 480p or actually genuine 1080p.
1) eg a photo seen on the phone screen will only ever be 480p, so mirroring thet same photo displayed on the TV will see much more detail? or just the same 480p resolution only on a bigger TV?
2) Even if you did have USB charging during use, would the drain-rate of playing video via HDMI out strip the charge-rate?
Thanks in advance for your feedback
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2old4toys said:
Anyone here used HDMI to output to a 1080p screen via HDMI? What is the resolution of the image seen on the TV? Just 480p or actually genuine 1080p.
1) eg a photo seen on the phone screen will only ever be 480p, so mirroring thet same photo displayed on the TV will see much more detail? or just the same 480p resolution only on a bigger TV?
2) Even if you did have USB charging during use, would the drain-rate of playing video via HDMI out strip the charge-rate?
Thanks in advance for your feedback
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I start by saying that I use a 1.4 HDMI cable made for Sony Ericsson phones that I found at 10 euros. My settings for HDMi output are 1080p at 50Hz - I must say that leaving it in automatic is bad cause it does like 480p as output resolution.
For photos the output fine, the 1080p and looks great, even the 3D photos. But when I'm using the camera while the phone is connected to TV the output is not 1080p but, IMO, a poor 480p. Same story with videos - while playing them give you the resolution on which they were recorded, on "live show" you got only the 480
The home screen is seen on TV at its native resolution not HDMI. The games are on the same boat, at screen resolution and not HD. Not even with the games that declares themselves HD is not working.
On the second issue: yes - the HDMI playback while charging DOES strip off the charge rate, finding yourself that after a 20 minutes of video playback while charging you have no juice left in your battery.
In my opinion the HDMI out is useful only in few situations: dual boot on the phone, letting you to use it as a computer (but this implies the USB Host active on our P920 - which still is missing), playback of files on the phone which would be impossible to play on TV - here you might get variations based on the TV set that you might own and the final use I foundshould be to use it as a game console but this also implies to have a bluetooth activated controller because playing with the phone while connected to the TV is just... a big NOOOO - only in some games that implies only the use of accelerator sensor, like racing games.
I hope that this is useful to you. I voted the second option - I use it but I'm not addicted.
Excellent response! Can you tell me how
To set 1080 output output on
the o3d because I have HDMI link but cant find the android setting page. My current setup must be in auto because photo gallery looks like worse than 480p on my TV right now.
Thanks
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Aint it possible to hack in order to acheive higher resolutions? Managed to run ubuntu, but it looks everything but good on my tv. :banghead:
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2old4toys said:
Excellent response! Can you tell me how
To set 1080 output output on
the o3d because I have HDMI link but cant find the android setting page. My current setup must be in auto because photo gallery looks like worse than 480p on my TV right now.
Thanks
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for setting HDMI go to settings => HDMI => Resolution and select from the options available (1080P at 60Hz or 1080P at 50Hz)
schubeir
One idea...maybe stupid
vitorcruzbr said:
Aint it possible to hack in order to acheive higher resolutions? Managed to run ubuntu, but it looks everything but good on my tv. :banghead:
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Have you tried to set higher resolution within Ubuntu? Like setting screen resolution. I might think it would work because will force the phone to give the application's resolution (still running Ubuntu is like running an application, because Ubuntu is not set in dual boot with Android on the phone but is working through a Virtual Machine, if I'm not wrong)
Can you tell me how you've managed to run Ubuntu on O3D? Thanks
i got another problem that is way worse. i got sound failing during videos are playing. in the movie player or in youtube, all the same, it keeps failing. the sound stops and then starts again but the image has no problem.
Nope... non. On my stock phone. Simply
No sign of HDMI settings
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I seem to be getting poor quality from the MHL to HDMI adapter...it's like the output is the same resolution as the phone's display (800x480) and it's just stretched to fit the screen...makes it look I'm watching an old DVD... Anybody else experiencing this? And is there a fix?
I'm also having this problem as well as the adapter not pushing Audio to the TV at all. Really frustrating.
bikeracer4487 said:
I seem to be getting poor quality from the MHL to HDMI adapter...it's like the output is the same resolution as the phone's display (800x480) and it's just stretched to fit the screen...makes it look I'm watching an old DVD... Anybody else experiencing this? And is there a fix?
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it will do this anytime it mirrors the screen. it seems the video player can switch to the mhl output only where i'd assume it plays the native resolution of the video. unfortunately i havent had a chance to test it on a high quality video.
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it will do this anytime it mirrors the screen. it seems the video player can switch to the mhl output only where i'd assume it plays the native resolution of the video. unfortunately i havent had a chance to test it on a high quality video.
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Okay, so if video plays at a high quality, then why do still pictures still look like crap? Do I have to use a special player for these too?
Seems to be application dependant to me. I tried the HBO GO app the first time I connected my phone to the TV and the quality looked pretty bad. But when I tried some of the HD movie trailers that came preloaded they looked really nice. Not Bluray quality but I'd say they were as good as most 720p streaming services.
I think the HBO mobile app limits the streaming quality so that
a: it works better on small screens
b: you won't want to connect it to a tv
I also downloaded a 720p mvk of Dr Who and tried playing it over HDMI and it looked almost as good as when I play it on my HTPC.
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Seems to be application dependant to me. I tried the HBO GO app the first time I connected my phone to the TV and the quality looked pretty bad. But when I tried some of the HD movie trailers that came preloaded they looked really nice. Not Bluray quality but I'd say they were as good as most 720p streaming services.
I think the HBO mobile app limits the streaming quality so that
a: it works better on small screens
b: you won't want to connect it to a tv
I also downloaded a 720p mvk of Dr Who and tried playing it over HDMI and it looked almost as good as when I play it on my HTPC.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108641
+1 on the HBO GO app... I just wish it would transfer true HD quality to the big screen.
i think only samsung specific apps will be able to use high res. it seems that if the phone screen is on it will be in wvga resolution, the video processor wont put out 2 resolutions at the same time. with the video player specifically it will turn off the phone screen so it is not mirroing a low res picture but instead it is switching to a different video mode entirely. we can only hope that they give us a better photo gallery app that can do this as well and that 3rd party apps will be able to detect mhl and switch to mhl only mode.
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i think only samsung specific apps will be able to use high res. it seems that if the phone screen is on it will be in wvga resolution, the video processor wont put out 2 resolutions at the same time. with the video player specifically it will turn off the phone screen so it is not mirroing a low res picture but instead it is switching to a different video mode entirely. we can only hope that they give us a better photo gallery app that can do this as well and that 3rd party apps will be able to detect mhl and switch to mhl only mode.
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Ugh...any known mhl apps for viewing still pictures? Tried googling but I just seem to be getting a lot of Nhl hits...
Hi everyone,
I am still using the original LG firmware 2.3.5 (I have my screen full of bad pixels, will send it the service, so no custom firmware yet for me). I just brought a HDMI cable today, pluged it into my TV and big dissapointment, what i see is the native 480x800 resolution scaled up to full HD does any know if there is some option to output the youtube full hd videos in actuall full hd ? (i saw the Optimus 2X on youtube, there the phone screen said "displaying on secondary screen" and on the TV it was full hd. Did anyone try the HDMI, any luck, is there any solution here or just this clone display with a choppy scaled up output? Maybe cyanogen or some other custom firmware support/will support this?
Thank you.
mine is in automatic, u can try any option from hdmi settings, last time I checked i just needed to rotate the phone to get a full hd
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mine is in automatic, u can try any option from hdmi settings, last time I checked i just needed to rotate the phone to get a full hd
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Thank you for the idea, i allready tried it (automatic, and when the video starts rotated my phone to landscape, then even tried rotating to landscape before the video started ... ), but it's still the same, the video plays on my mobile screen too but that is upscaled to the TV (btw, the TV states at the hdmi info that the input is [email protected] - so the automatic detection works). And i do tried it with a full hd clip from youtube, played the same clip on my computer and of course the quality difference is clear. The same goes for the photos i made with my phone, when scaled up on the TV they look like they ware made by a 0.3 pixel camera, so poor quality with the upscale (and yes, the images are good quality, copied them to my computer and hdmi to the tv and they are excelent). So my dear LG,LG,LG ... what to do with you
LyCC said:
Thank you for the idea, i allready tried it (automatic, and when the video starts rotated my phone to landscape, then even tried rotating to landscape before the video started ... ), but it's still the same, the video plays on my mobile screen too but that is upscaled to the TV (btw, the TV states at the hdmi info that the input is [email protected] - so the automatic detection works). And i do tried it with a full hd clip from youtube, played the same clip on my computer and of course the quality difference is clear. The same goes for the photos i made with my phone, when scaled up on the TV they look like they ware made by a 0.3 pixel camera, so poor quality with the upscale (and yes, the images are good quality, copied them to my computer and hdmi to the tv and they are excelent). So my dear LG,LG,LG ... what to do with you
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Can i ask where u bought this cable hopefully not the chinese crap
only 1 that will work properly (Full HD Quality 2D and 3D Image on 720P) is the original cable. Ebay or similar websites sell the cable search for:
LG DHC-N100
I dont know what country u are from so have a look on ebay.com its 20$ but have a look for your country first could be cheaper!
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Can i ask where u bought this cable hopefully not the chinese crap
only 1 that will work properly (Full HD Quality 2D and 3D Image on 720P) is the original cable. Ebay or similar websites sell the cable search for:
LG DHC-N100
I dont know what country u are from so have a look on ebay.com its 20$ but have a look for your country first could be cheaper!
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from a mobile phone service, and yes, it's LG DHC N100 acording to the label, it was 10 Euro. and like i said, the TV states that the input is [email protected], so in theory it should work.
But may i ask, when you play a youtube clip, the phone displays the clip in it's 480x800px resolution and in parallel the tv displays it in full HD (or the phone doesn't display anything when the TV displays it in full HD)?
Or maybe in the latest 2.3.5 update is not working properly any more?
i think the issue is the vids from youtube, you're not seeing them in 1080 cause of being watched on a mobile device, try to download youtube mate dl a vid in 720 at least and check again in your tv, also have u checked the channel's info ??? does it say 480p/i???
will try to upload one later today
The only way of displaying full hd on your tv is playing videos with the video player.Everything else (youtube app for example) will not be displayed on full dh unfortunately
Hm, reset to defaults seems to solved the problem, and indeed only local content with video player is transmited in hd/full hd, however the quality is not perfect, when i play the same content from my computer compared to the phone's output there is a BIG difference ... i guess this is what the developers from Cyanogen refered to when they sait they have increased the maximum bitrate of the codecs ... what the phone outputs indeed seems like a lowered quality, so hopfully a new rom in the future will some this. LG could really pay a bit more to the developers to make something good, since the hardware in this phone is quite good, it's a shame that a poorly configured rom brings it down ...
Well, that's all folks,
Thank you everyone for your help.
I had same problem (still do), tried an app to set dpi higher to get higher resolution on phone but that just made me have to format it (was unstable). might work with a different firmware or something who knows.
ATM i'm trying to set up like a dual display but i have no idea if that's even possible.
or maybe setting hdmi output to screen resolution to reduce upscaling ugliness.
If anyone has any ideas... including the use of a custom rom...let me know please as being able to stream vids over wifi from tvlinks through my TV (only ones i already legally own ofcourse ) would be wild.
Im on V22A (2.3.5) p920 firmware on p925g hardware
I saw the "dual display" on the youtube for Optimus 2X with Tegra chipset, if you look at the videos, you will see that on the phone display a text with "outputting on secondery monitor" something apears ... i guess we'll see once a Cyanogenmod final release apears for O3D ...
Is there a way to force the resolution to something higher than 480p? I'm stuck with a monitor that has DVI input, so I got a HDMI->DVI adapter. The monitor is 1280x1024, so it is capable of displaying 720p, but I only get 480p (presumably due to the monitor not signaling the tablet of it's capability...). I've also tried this on my 1600x900 DVI monitor and it's doing the same thing.
Are you running HD video when testing? I remember someone saying it only outputs HD when having a video playing...
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elesbb said:
Are you running HD video when testing? I remember someone saying it only outputs HD when having a video playing...
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I'm just trying to get the launcher to display in a form where I can read the text. The resizing being done garbles it badly. With HD video, the resolution does not change.
ugoff said:
I'm just trying to get the launcher to display in a form where I can read the text. The resizing being done garbles it badly. With HD video, the resolution does not change.
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did you try the disable hdcp option in developer menu?
afaik is hdcp that when it wont "feel" a protected device on the other side degrade the video to 480p or stop working alltogeter.
but it shouldnt do that on "desktop" view, only when playing protected video.
NixZero said:
did you try the disable hdcp option in developer menu?
afaik is hdcp that when it wont "feel" a protected device on the other side degrade the video to 480p or stop working alltogeter.
but it shouldnt do that on "desktop" view, only when playing protected video.
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I don't see the option. I'm on Hydro 7. I believe the option only shows on AOSP-based roms.
Using a pc program "mediainfo" I noticed the 3D video encoding has changed from the codec used in gingerbread. The codec is now listed as iso which is common enough, but the codec also uses "frame tripling". The frame rate is 30fps so are we getting a 30fps with 3 frames making 1, effectively 90fps or 10fps with 3 frames duplicated to "make" 30fps.
The new 3D files cause windows explorer to continually try to analyse the mp4 files and will not automatically unmount the sd card as it is continually trying to recognize the file. The same problem also when the 3D videos are transferred to PC and the folder is viewed in explorer, cannot even re-name them with a different extension to stop the lock-ups.
Sorry to say, but 90 fps is not even true. The S3D hardware is limited to only TWO images, so it's basically split-image, either 30fps or 60fps, both left and right images. If you try 90fps, you will have image ghosting which the transparent ceramic plate is timed wrongly against video frames or worse - you will see flashing or wavy patterns which will cause you the headache. And, LCD is normally locked at 60 hertzs, as is the case with non-3D LCDs.
EDIT: The file is basically a MP4 file - with some capable media players, probably like VLC player, it will display two "squeezed" images as seen by two cameras on the 3D phone.
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I didn't have a problem moving or viewing the 3D files created in gingerbread. It seems the new codec used by ICS is causing windows problems as the codec is not recognized, windows just keeps trying to update the thumnails on the sd card when connected via usb or when removed and in a sd card reader.
Just wondered if anyone has found a way round this problem.
The "frame tripling" that is reported in the pc program {mediainfo} is a part of the codec description and cannot seem to find any mention of it in this forum.
Interesting... I have a modified ICS version of 3D camera, modified for CM10 - will try this. BTW, I don't like using thumbnail feature on Windows - nothing but a PITA.
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Hmmm. I have Nvidia 3d vision and drivers on my pc and I can watch video directly over hdmi and copy them, etc. Maybe you need the Nvidia drivers???
Or updated Catalyst for AMD Radeon HD 4k or later. I have Radeon 4670, BTW. It's still a great general-purpose video card.
However, I don't have a 3D monitor. Definitely outside of my budget.
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The "lockup" of file monitoring in widows7 for this new codec is not my main concern,annoying as it may be. I am worried about the mediainfo report of the frame mode is "frame tripling". my own research has been that 3D capture on a 3D camera by panasonic or philips or someone ACTUALLY records at 10fps and each frame is then repeated 3 times to give a 30fps video file This would give a poor motion quality video. I need to confirm that ALL o3D ICS updates have the same frame tripling video recording, as I have some "issues" with my upgrade in other software since upgrading to ICS .If the video recorded by the ICS upgrade is in fact 10fps and multiplied x3 then it is a novelty and not really persuing 3D by upgrading PC or TV to view real 3D.
Thanks for your reply's so far.
Still interesting, however. 10 fps seems slow but here, the first ever stereoscopic 3D camcorders have slower in-order processors, BTW - not as advanced as what's in our phones. So, in reality 90 fps is actually viewable as 30 fps when the 3D LCD timing is factored here.
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Sorry but don't understand the explanation or translation into english,
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The "lockup" of file monitoring in widows7 for this new codec is not my main concern,annoying as it may be. I am worried about the mediainfo report of the frame mode is "frame tripling". my own research has been that 3D capture on a 3D camera by panasonic or philips or someone ACTUALLY records at 10fps and each frame is then repeated 3 times to give a 30fps video file This would give a poor motion quality video. I need to confirm that ALL o3D ICS updates have the same frame tripling video recording, as I have some "issues" with my upgrade in other software since upgrading to ICS .If the video recorded by the ICS upgrade is in fact 10fps and multiplied x3 then it is a novelty and not really persuing 3D by upgrading PC or TV to view real 3D.
Thanks for your reply's so far.
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Indeed "TriDef Media Player" installed with my LG3D monitor can't play 3D movies from ICS but 2D is able to play.
"Stereo Movie Player" http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/index.html can't play 3D from ICS too.
Only "Stereoscopic Player" http://www.3dtv.at/Index_en.aspx can play that video.
Nvidia 3D Vision drivers work for me, but if you have an AMD GPU it may be different.
OK, works very well for me too.
After I uninstalled ffdshow
Hi,
I am owner of a Sony Xperia Tablet S with a docking station(using to connect to a TV through HDMI cabel). When I connect the tablet to my TV(Samsung 1080P) It is only recognized as 720P device. That's probably OK, but when I play 1080P movie It should change to 1080P video resolution but it doesn't happen. I tried to search for a HDMI output setting in the tablet but there is no such thing, I also tried several video players, even to play exact resolution size video - 1920x1080 no change... still only 720P. And to be honest 720P doesn't look very brilliant from this tablet. I hoped to use the tablet as some kind of "all round video player".
Is there any way that I can convince the tablet to play videos in 1080P/Full HD? Any idea how to resize HDMI output resolution?
I know that it is mirroring my device, but even though it should automatically resize when playing full HD movies. (Saw it on couple of videos, where it does really work. The TV shows 1080P videos and the devices screen stays black, I guess because of their lower resolution, but that's OK.)
Rider008 said:
Hi,
I am owner of a Sony Xperia Tablet S with a docking station(using to connect to a TV through HDMI cabel). When I connect the tablet to my TV(Samsung 1080P) It is only recognized as 720P device. That's probably OK, but when I play 1080P movie It should change to 1080P video resolution but it doesn't happen. I tried to search for a HDMI output setting in the tablet but there is no such thing, I also tried several video players, even to play exact resolution size video - 1920x1080 no change... still only 720P. And to be honest 720P doesn't look very brilliant from this tablet. I hoped to use the tablet as some kind of "all round video player".
Is there any way that I can convince the tablet to play videos in 1080P/Full HD? Any idea how to resize HDMI output resolution?
I know that it is mirroring my device, but even though it should automatically resize when playing full HD movies. (Saw it on couple of videos, where it does really work. The TV shows 1080P videos and the devices screen stays black, I guess because of their lower resolution, but that's OK.)
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I guess, your tablet only supports 720p output via HDMI.. It may be your TV only allowing 720p for HDMI output. Check your TV settings...
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I guess, your tablet only supports 720p output via HDMI.. It may be your TV only allowing 720p for HDMI output. Check your TV settings...
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My TV is 1080P I am 100% sure . The TV finds by itself that it is 720P and I cannot change it anywhere in the TV menu(or in tablet). It seems that the tablet sends only 720P - which is OK, but when playing movies it should change to 1080P. The tablet itself should also support 1080P. If I could only get to service menu - there are the settings and I could change the output resolution.
Even though it doesn't seem all newer sony smartphones/tablets should support 1080P. In the service menu it is just matter of few clicks to change the resolution. I don't have permission to send links here, so type on youtube: Sony Xperia S - HDMI - Playstation 3 Controller
Rider008 said:
My TV is 1080P I am 100% sure . The TV finds by itself that it is 720P and I cannot change it anywhere in the TV menu(or in tablet). It seems that the tablet sends only 720P - which is OK, but when playing movies it should change to 1080P. The tablet itself should also support 1080P. If I could only get to service menu - there are the settings and I could change the output resolution.
Even though it doesn't seem all newer sony smartphones/tablets should support 1080P. In the service menu it is just matter of few clicks to change the resolution. I don't have permission to send links here, so type on youtube: Sony Xperia S - HDMI - Playstation 3 Controller
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Well, nearly all TV's support 1080p (4k is next ) So I guess its the Sony software limiting it. Your specs can easily output 1080p. Although the software may be limiting it, try converting the video files to 1080p resolution and give that a shot. Also I have watched a demo of the xperia s tablet in HDMI mode and some parts on the TV screen are cut, so I'm guessing it ONLY supports 720p (unfourtanatly)
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Well, nearly all TV's support 1080p (4k is next ) So I guess its the Sony software limiting it. Your specs can easily output 1080p. Although the software may be limiting it, try converting the video files to 1080p resolution and give that a shot. Also I have watched a demo of the xperia s tablet in HDMI mode and some parts on the TV screen are cut, so I'm guessing it ONLY supports 720p (unfourtanatly)
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I already tried to play 1080P movie with exact resolution no luck... The TV/Tablet hardware are capable of it, even android as software, but sony gave no option to change the resolution anually, which most manufactures don't, but they change to 1080P when playing 1080P stuff.
Only thing that is cut is the bottom navigation bar(I'm not sure how you call it.), but that's ok because the tablet is 16:10 and the TV is 16:9 so It just cuts off the black bar with navigation buttons from bottom. Otherwise it shows 100% from the screen.
As far as I know service menu would help to change it(easiest way), or some kind of app that can change HDMI output resolution? Or app that can change the resolution of the tablet itself, than I guess would the TV recognize the device as 1080P. Any idea?
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I already tried to play 1080P movie with exact resolution no luck... The TV/Tablet hardware are capable of it, even android as software, but sony gave no option to change the resolution anually, which most manufactures don't, but they change to 1080P when playing 1080P stuff.
Only thing that is cut is the bottom navigation bar(I'm not sure how you call it.), but that's ok because the tablet is 16:10 and the TV is 16:9 so It just cuts off the black bar with navigation buttons from bottom. Otherwise it shows 100% from the screen.
As far as I know service menu would help to change it(easiest way), or some kind of app that can change HDMI output resolution? Or app that can change the resolution of the tablet itself, than I guess would the TV recognize the device as 1080P. Any idea?
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Well, if you want to mimic the 1080p output, then a program that uses root may be required. However, Im not sure if there is such app..
Your tablet doesnt probably have 1080p stream output capacity. Maybe you could plug it to a device with an upscaler
gilarthon said:
Your tablet doesnt probably have 1080p stream output capacity. Maybe you could plug it to a device with an upscaler
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I don't want just upscale the resolution. It won't make image any beter. As I know Tegra 3 does support 1080P, android as software too... so I can't see why it doesn't want to work? My girlfriend has also a Tegra 3 tablet(ASUS) and far as I know when she is playing 1080P it is a real 1080P on the TV and the screen(on the tablet is 720P) just stays black, I mean control buttons and everything is there, just the area where should the movie play on the tablet is black.
It seems I will have to root the tablet omg... Does anybody have an idea if there actually is an app like that? That can send it as 1080P output resolution? I tried to find service menu...no luck... if I could get there, like on the phone it would be just matter of few clicks and 30seconds of work...