I just purchased an acer a510 and one thing I don't like is it crops the bottom portion of the screen over hdmi. I assume this only happens if the output display is 16:9 which mine is. No tv option will fix this for me.
I did some googling and found an article about an update for the transformer prime:
. Besides that, is the ad hoc support for Ice Cream Sandwich and two new modes for the HDMI interface, crop and scale.
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from this link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/transformer-prime-firmware-update/
Too bad this isn't in stock ice cream sandwich but it sounds like asus has added it. I hope they added it for tf300 as well. If so, can someone tell me if it scales properly? In that it retains a proper aspect ratio or does it simply squish the image ensuring it fits but with an incorrect aspect ratio.
Or too bad there isn't a utility to change the resolution/aspect ratio on the actual device. This feature is important enough to me that I may return the a500 for a tf300.
sark666 said:
I just purchased an acer a510 and one thing I don't like is it crops the bottom portion of the screen over hdmi. I assume this only happens if the output display is 16:9 which mine is. No tv option will fix this for me.
I did some googling and found an article about an update for the transformer prime:
from this link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/transformer-prime-firmware-update/
Too bad this isn't in stock ice cream sandwich but it sounds like asus has added it. I hope they added it for tf300 as well. If so, can someone tell me if it scales properly? In that it retains a proper aspect ratio or does it simply squish the image ensuring it fits but with an incorrect aspect ratio.
Or too bad there isn't a utility to change the resolution/aspect ratio on the actual device. This feature is important enough to me that I may return the a500 for a tf300.
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Yes the tf300t does have the 2 modes scale and crop. My sucks though since it wont let me change the resolution, its overscanning the display.
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Yes the tf300t does have the 2 modes scale and crop. My sucks though since it wont let me change the resolution, its overscanning the display.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2
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On a related note, does this use a type d micro hdmi like the playbook? Thanks
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On a related note, does this use a type d micro hdmi like the playbook? Thanks
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This is the one I got and it works great.
Yes the tf300t does have the 2 modes scale and crop. My sucks though since it wont let me change the resolution, its overscanning the display.
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Can you please explain on the above? What do you mean it won't let you change resolution. Changing resolution would be an easy fix for ice cream sandwich in general (pick a 16:9 resolution or whatever you need) but afaik that's not possible.
On my acer I have no hdmi option, so I assume it would be considered crop. As in, it displays the correct aspect ratio but the bottom portion (the ui buttons) are cropped. Which is no good for me. I assume scale would scale it so it all fits, but my concern here is how does it scale? Does it squish it and it's the wrong aspect ratio? I don't want that either. What does scale do for you vs crop?
I want to run this device at home on my monitor so this is a deal breaker for me and need to know if the tf 300 will do this. So if you could expand on you answer (or anyone else) I would really appreciate it. Like does scale not show everything for you? Are you outputting to a 16:9 display?
As a side note, I'm certainly not a blackberry fan, but my friend has a play book and it outputs to everything (I saw him try it on various displays) and it just works. And he has numerous aspect ratio scaling options but he said he never needs to tweak cause it always seems to detect the correct aspect ratio. It also has an option to turn off the pb display while outputting to hdmi (I was looking for apps to darken the screen). Hell, I was really impressed that he could pipe a movie out to his tv and still browse the web on his playbook. I'm a fan of android for numerous reasons and not switching, but it's a shame to see the first version of the playbook get all this right from the start and not on android.
I've seen youtube clips of people outputting to displays and not being cutofff, I assume they were 16:10 displays.
If so my options are get a 16:10 display instead (just got this display, really don't want to return it but if I have to maybe so) OR I want to determine if the ASUS solution actually works.
Otherwise, are there any resolution/aspect ratios utilities for ice cream sandwich? I couldn't find any. This shouldn't be up to asus to fix, it should be in stock ics, but if asus is the one that does this right, I'll return this tomorrow.
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Can you please explain on the above? What do you mean it won't let you change resolution. Changing resolution would be an easy fix for ice cream sandwich in general (pick a 16:9 resolution or whatever you need) but afaik that's not possible.
On my acer I have no hdmi option, so I assume it would be considered crop. As in, it displays the correct aspect ratio but the bottom portion (the ui buttons) are cropped. Which is no good for me. I assume scale would scale it so it all fits, but my concern here is how does it scale? Does it squish it and it's the wrong aspect ratio? I don't want that either. What does scale do for you vs crop?
I want to run this device at home on my monitor so this is a deal breaker for me and need to know if the tf 300 will do this. So if you could expand on you answer (or anyone else) I would really appreciate it. Like does scale not show everything for you? Are you outputting to a 16:9 display?
As a side note, I'm certainly not a blackberry fan, but my friend has a play book and it outputs to everything (I saw him try it on various displays) and it just works. And he has numerous aspect ratio scaling options but he said he never needs to tweak cause it always seems to detect the correct aspect ratio. It also has an option to turn off the pb display while outputting to hdmi (I was looking for apps to darken the screen). Hell, I was really impressed that he could pipe a movie out to his tv and still browse the web on his playbook. I'm a fan of android for numerous reasons and not switching, but it's a shame to see the first version of the playbook get all this right from the start and not on android.
I've seen youtube clips of people outputting to displays and not being cutofff, I assume they were 16:10 displays.
If so my options are get a 16:10 display instead (just got this display, really don't want to return it but if I have to maybe so) OR I want to determine if the ASUS solution actually works.
Otherwise, are there any resolution/aspect ratios utilities for ice cream sandwich? I couldn't find any. This shouldn't be up to asus to fix, it should be in stock ics, but if asus is the one that does this right, I'll return this tomorrow.
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I skipped a word in the message you quoted. It was suppose to read My TV sucks.... My problem is that my TV only has two aspect ratios 4:3 and 16:9 so when I connect my Pad to it my display gets cropped on the top and bottom. I have tried researching this around the web and the answer I've gotten is that my TV sucks, since it has no option to do 1:1 or change the scanning options. The scale mode is the full screen with status bar and the crop mode is the display without the status bar.
In the end it depends on the monitor you're going to be using, how it reads the hdmi and the options you have to edit this. I've been trying to find answers to see if somehow I can change the resolution of the 300's output to better fit my TV. So far no luck...
The scale mode is the full screen with status bar and the crop mode is the display without the status bar.
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Well I guess my display sucks too as it only has 16:9 or 4:3. Sorry to ask for further clarification but so why doesn't scale mode work for you? That's the option I was hoping to choose. Does everything fit but then it's squished? Crop is all I currently have. Again, I assume a 16:10 display would solve this, but it's funny, googling this and I saw the old ICS announcement and ICS's official resolution is a 16:9 resolution. I dunno, changing the resolution of the display shouldn't be this big a deal. I can't find any utility that does this.
Anyway, still not sure if asus's solution actually fixes this. Even if there was a way to pan the desktop so I could see the button's when I need them, I dunno something.
I have no idea, I'll post some picture of my TV displaying both mode at the end of this post. What I can tell you is that when playing videos the screen resizes correctly, yes weird wild stuff. As far as I can tell Netflix doesn't crop the video, nor does MX Player and CrunchyRoll. I was planning on using this feature for games. As you will see in my pictures when using Scale mode my display gets cropped on the top and the bottom, and when I'm in crop mode my display gets cropped practically every side, more so on the sides.
Like you say there should be an easy way to fix this with an app or something. I've searched the market for solutions, haven't found anything yet. T_T
I just tried a video on CrunchyRoll, just when I selected the video the whole screen shrinked to the correct side, weird, and the video doesn't crop anything I can see the subs perfectly. Hopefully someone will find a solution...
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Hey thanks for the pictures I really appreciate that. Hmm, it looks like your crop is almost ok. It's hard to tell if the aspect ratio is being screwed with. I'm just looking where the word 'settings' is in both pictures and noticing that you almost have the buttons on the bottom, so it seems like more is being displayed. I suspect it is squishing it though and not doing a correct aspect ratio change. Hard to tell with just text. If you are curious what it is doing, find an image of a perfect circle and switch between the modes and see if it becomes slightly oval in one or the other.
But I was joking that we have crap displays. Just about all 16:9 displays or 16:10 displays can do one or the other. Like imagine buying a monitor and your nvidia card couldn't push out a 16:9 res and you needed to get a different display. I just looked in my manual and they have various quoted resolutions and a couple are 16:10. If there was a simple way to invoke it in ICS I'd be in business. I wonder though with yours could it actually be your monitor, cause it looks like it's almost correct. Well, I'm looking at the second image that you indicate as crop but I'd have expected that to be scale. On my acer 510, the top, left, & right are perfectly aligned, it's exactly where the menu buttons begin that are missing.
Oh and just to mention, mine is perfect playing movies as well, not just because it's a 16:9 display, but ics over hdmi does different resolutions when a full screen video is launched. Or from what I've read anyway. I wonder if that is true for someone who is doing this on a 16:10 display? Do they just have black borders on 16:9 content or do they still have the ui buttons? I suspect black borders...
I've wasted a better part of a day trying to find a solution and the only solution seems to be get a 16:10 monitor which sucks to put it lightly. I've never mucked with dpi settings and I know some do that if their fonts/gui are too small. I don't know if changing the dpi has any affect on the actual resolution used by the device.
Anyway, if I find out more I'll post it here, even though we currently have different devices, there may be a general solution, but it sounds like it will take an OS update. I was hopeful that asus addressed this issue themselves, but looking at your shots it's hard to know is it always like that or does it work on other displays.
I tried the perfect circle thing and they both looked the same to me.
Well that's a good thing the circle looks the same in both. That's means they are not mucking up the aspect ratio but clearly you are seeing more (although not all) of the android interface.
Hmm, I wonder if Asus does do it correctly and for some weird reason it's just not working on your display. It's good to see someone is tackling this, but again it should be google not asus, and then others hoping other vendors do the same.
You are hooking via hdmi correct? Just wondering if you are using an adapter going hdmi to vga on your monitor. if so, vga sometimes needs to be resized/centered, but hdmi is normally automatic and most if not all displays won't even give an option to modify hdmi resizing/centering.
Damn it, I really like my acer otherwise, have about 10 days to return it for an asus cause I really want the entire interface to fit on my screen.
Can anyone else who has a 16:9 display hook theirs up via hdmi and try scale/crop and see if one fits perfectly? But asus is really impressing with this and including usb over ethernet drivers, which I'm not sure if mine has as I may buy one to wire over my network.
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Well that's a good thing the circle looks the same in both. That's means they are not mucking up the aspect ratio but clearly you are seeing more (although not all) of the android interface.
Hmm, I wonder if Asus does do it correctly and for some weird reason it's just not working on your display. It's good to see someone is tackling this, but again it should be google not asus, and then others hoping other vendors do the same.
You are hooking via hdmi correct? Just wondering if you are using an adapter going hdmi to vga on your monitor. if so, vga sometimes needs to be resized/centered, but hdmi is normally automatic and most if not all displays won't even give an option to modify hdmi resizing/centering.
Damn it, I really like my acer otherwise, have about 10 days to return it for an asus cause I really want the entire interface to fit on my screen.
Can anyone else who has a 16:9 display hook theirs up via hdmi and try scale/crop and see if one fits perfectly? But asus is really impressing with this and including usb over ethernet drivers, which I'm not sure if mine has as I may buy one to wire over my network.
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Yep I'm hooking it through HDMI, if I had a VGA I would be able to rescale the screen, sicne my TV apparently has an option called PC Setup (only available when connected through VGA)
Well, hopefully some other kind soul could try this via hdmi on a non 16:10 display and tell the results.
I found this on an acer forum. Someone was talking about subtitles not displaying on the hdmi display but were displaying on the tablet when playing hw accelerated content:
Also, another issue (and this is reported by many Android users), using Dice player Hw decode (or any other player with HW decoding) over HDMI, the subtitles are not displayed on the TV but only on the tablet. I wrote to DICE player devs and they replied:
"The overlay including subtitle when HW accelerated should be supported by manufacturer. The Android framework does not have any interface for HDMI, so the HDMI output depends on manufacturer's implementation.
But the most devices do not support the HDMI output with the overlay, so it is to hard to support it."
So it seems that is up to Acer to implement this in a future firmware (but I doubt it).
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My issue isn't subtitles obviously, but I find it concerning that it sounds from the above it's up to the vendor to deal with hdmi, and it sounds like only asus has tried to address this, and still not sure if their method actually works.
I still feel it should be up to google, but I guess I shouldn't hold my breath for them to ever address this.
Hmm, one issue I have is flash content full screen crashes over hdmi. Also, using the mobile youtube app automatically goes full screen over the hdmi display but not on the tablet. I thought this may be a standard for video but maybe that's just how acer has tackled it. If you use the youtube app does content automatically go fullscreen?
And google may not have a framework for hdmi but they should have a means of changing resolution or aspect ratio. I'm still convinced it's possible to change resolutions (even on bootup or something) just haven't found how yet.
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Well, hopefully some other kind soul could try this via hdmi on a non 16:10 display and tell the results.
I found this on an acer forum. Someone was talking about subtitles not displaying on the hdmi display but were displaying on the tablet when playing hw accelerated content:
My issue isn't subtitles obviously, but I find it concerning that it sounds from the above it's up to the vendor to deal with hdmi, and it sounds like only asus has tried to address this, and still not sure if their method actually works.
I still feel it should be up to google, but I guess I shouldn't hold my breath for them to ever address this.
Hmm, one issue I have is flash content full screen crashes over hdmi. Also, using the mobile youtube app automatically goes full screen over the hdmi display but not on the tablet. I thought this may be a standard for video but maybe that's just how acer has tackled it. If you use the youtube app does content automatically go fullscreen?
And google may not have a framework for hdmi but they should have a means of changing resolution or aspect ratio. I'm still convinced it's possible to change resolutions (even on bootup or something) just haven't found how yet.
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Youtube app goes automatically full screen on mine too, and FREAKING CRAP youtube app is getting cropped from all side woooooooooooowhoooooooooooooo. Going to try through opera desktop mode
I just double checked my video apps and they are all cropping the image T_T
Hmm, I normally wouldn't suspect the display, but maybe in your case it is. I found this post regarding the transformer prime and he was complaining that over hdmi it's only outputting 720 when the device is capable of more. By the numbers he's quoting, his output is 16:9 and the display looks like it perfectly fits. He is right, that we should be able to specify higher than 720 but I'd be happy at this point with 720 that fits.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26480838#post26480838
So either the prime does it right and the transformer doesn't, or you have an issue with your display. Could you check mobile you app and tell if it auto-fullscreens? I suspect that was something acer did.
It's really too bad google doesn't have a framework for this, we'll probably have devices for the next few years that have no hdmi options, or barebones options.
From what I gather, even if I figure out a way to force my device to boot with a custom res, the hdmi output will take over and go back to 720 (and not 16:9)
Wow, all this crap I've been reading and I wouldn't have even known there was a problem if I had a 16:10 monitor instead...
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Hmm, I normally wouldn't suspect the display, but maybe in your case it is. I found this post regarding the transformer prime and he was complaining that over hdmi it's only outputting 720 when the device is capable of more. By the numbers he's quoting, his output is 16:9 and the display looks like it perfectly fits. He is right, that we should be able to specify higher than 720 but I'd be happy at this point with 720 that fits.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26479317#post26479317
So either the prime does it right and the transformer doesn't, or you have an issue with your display. Could you check mobile you app and tell if it auto-fullscreens? I suspect that was something acer did.
It's really too bad google doesn't have a framework for this, we'll probably have devices for the next few years that have no hdmi options, or barebones options.
From what I gather, even if I figure out a way to force my device to boot with a custom res, the hdmi output will take over and go back to 720 (and not 16:9)
Wow, all this crap I've been reading and I wouldn't have even known there was a problem if I had a 16:10 monitor instead...
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By mobile you app, do you mean the youtube app? As I said before, it does automatically go full screen while video playing, even when on the tablet the video isn't playing on full screen. I sent a technical inquiry to ASUS about my specific problem, with a picture of my tv cropping the display. It sucks that it crops videos too...
Anyone else tried connecting their 300 to an HDTV through HDMI??? Seems I'm the only one.
ok if you said that earlier I missed that. Yes I mean the youtube app and not the browser. It goes fullscreen automatically for me and was curious if asus devices did the same.
And youtube via the browser crashes if I invoke fullscreen if I am using hdmi, but I think this bug is only with the acer and not the asus.
Not sure if you looked at the attached link, but that guy's display looks perfect to me (although of course, only 720) and his monitor is 16:9. I wish someone here would confirm it works properly for them with the tf300 with a non 16:10 display.
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ok if you said that earlier I missed that. Yes I mean the youtube app and not the browser. It goes fullscreen automatically for me and was curious if asus devices did the same.
And youtube via the browser crashes if I invoke fullscreen if I am using hdmi, but I think this bug is only with the acer and not the asus.
Not sure if you looked at the attached link, but that guy's display looks perfect to me (although of course, only 720) and his monitor is 16:9. I wish someone here would confirm it works properly for them with the tf300 with a non 16:10 display.
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The attached link took me to this same post, try posting it again. Also trying youtube in desktop mode mine just go into blackscreen, it doenst really crashes but I have to press home button and stop browser process.
Fixed the link above but here as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26480838#post26480838
That is kind of what happens to mine when using full screen flash via hdmi. Both screens go blank so I can't hit home on the tablet, but I hit escape on the keyboard I have plugged in and that brought me back to the tablet. The other time it seemed to entirely freeze, but maybe I didn't wait long enough for it to come back. When using the standalone youtube app, it auto full screens when using hdmi, that is what I was asking you if it does the same. Doesn't really matter, but I was just curious if asus did it the same way.
Hmm, I'm looking at my monitor's manual and it has a chart of the various resolutions supported. Some are 16:9 res, some 16:10 but none of them actually say 720. Like I would expect to see 1280 x 720 but that is not listed. Maybe that could cause an issue, but I highly doubt it and still suspect it's a tablet limitation. I think most of my friend's all have 16:10 but I'd like to try it on another 16:9.
But then my manual goes on to say:
This monitor supports full HD (480p, 576p, 720p, 1080 i/p) video content from game consoles, DVD players and other consumer video devices via HDMI.
I don't know if that is unusual that it doesn't list a 720 res in it's list of supported resolutions and the 720p is referring to video only.
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First off, I don't understand video and audio very much beyond the basics.
I'd previously used handbrake to rip DVDs to my wife's ipad. When the aspect ratios agree, she's golden. When they don't, she doesn't care since she's used to seeing letterboxing on our TV.
However, I've tried to rip a widescreen movie to my Transformer and see the black bars in the video. I'd assumed since I was ripping a widescreen video to a widescreen device, it would fill the screen. Seeing black bars is no real issue apart from being annoying, so I'm trying to get rid of them.
I've been doing some reading and have tried to play with the anamorphic settings to try and fill the screen out, without any luck.
At this point, I think I'm either missing something very basic, have a fundamental misunderstanding as to how this is supposed to work, or some combination of the two.
I would appreciate and helpful tips or advice anyone might be able to offer.
BTW, I'm using the settings I found here: http://www.ryukent.co.uk/2011/05/asus-eeepad-transformer-handbrake-settings/
And also, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
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Dave
my handbreak video displays fine! Try it in rockplayer, not the original stock player and it will strech to aspect properly
The Transformer's aspect ratio is 1280x800px; the standard 16:9 widescreen videos will probably encode (or expand) to 1280x720px - which will leave 40 pixels of unused space (your black bars) at the top and bottom of your screen.
Many players allow you to stretch videos to fill the entire screen (moboPlayer allows this).
Many films are 2.39:1, which would be 1280x535 on the TF which will leave a lot of empty space unless you stretch/crop (neither of which is desirable)....
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First off, I don't understand video and audio very much beyond the basics.
I'd previously used handbrake to rip DVDs to my wife's ipad. When the aspect ratios agree, she's golden. When they don't, she doesn't care since she's used to seeing letterboxing on our TV.
However, I've tried to rip a widescreen movie to my Transformer and see the black bars in the video. I'd assumed since I was ripping a widescreen video to a widescreen device, it would fill the screen. Seeing black bars is no real issue apart from being annoying, so I'm trying to get rid of them.
I've been doing some reading and have tried to play with the anamorphic settings to try and fill the screen out, without any luck.
At this point, I think I'm either missing something very basic, have a fundamental misunderstanding as to how this is supposed to work, or some combination of the two.
I would appreciate and helpful tips or advice anyone might be able to offer.
BTW, I'm using the settings I found here: http://www.ryukent.co.uk/2011/05/asus-eeepad-transformer-handbrake-settings/
And also, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
thanks
Dave
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Depends on the movies. Some movies are 16:9 or (1.78), will others are Cinema Scope (2.35). The 2.35 will always have black bars, even on wide screen. Read the packaging, it should give you the aspect ratio. They are ultra wide. Personally I wish Hollywood would dump 2.35, but it appears to be the trending thing to do. Frankly, I just think they do it to give you a reason to go to a theater.
FYI: It appears the that Automatic crop doesn't work, at least on Blu-Ray mkvs.
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Yea, have a movie around that frame height. Im sure i know the answer already, but please confirm.
Its impossinke to stretch/increase the height frame through sofware like handbrake right?
So, you can shrink it, but just cant stretch it or make it bigge, atleast without losing quality...
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Yea, have a movie around that frame height. Im sure i know the answer already, but please confirm.
Its impossinke to stretch/increase the height frame through sofware like handbrake right?
So, you can shrink it, but just cant stretch it or make it bigge, atleast without losing quality...
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You can stretch it but everything will look very tall and thin - If you like your movies about NBA basketball players that might be fun.
You can crop and then expand the frame but this will lose quality as you are essentially zooming in -- parts on the outside of the frame will be lost.
The black bars are not the fault of the device, they're the fault of the movie industry.
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Hi everyone,
I am still using the original LG firmware 2.3.5 (I have my screen full of bad pixels, will send it the service, so no custom firmware yet for me). I just brought a HDMI cable today, pluged it into my TV and big dissapointment, what i see is the native 480x800 resolution scaled up to full HD does any know if there is some option to output the youtube full hd videos in actuall full hd ? (i saw the Optimus 2X on youtube, there the phone screen said "displaying on secondary screen" and on the TV it was full hd. Did anyone try the HDMI, any luck, is there any solution here or just this clone display with a choppy scaled up output? Maybe cyanogen or some other custom firmware support/will support this?
Thank you.
mine is in automatic, u can try any option from hdmi settings, last time I checked i just needed to rotate the phone to get a full hd
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mine is in automatic, u can try any option from hdmi settings, last time I checked i just needed to rotate the phone to get a full hd
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Thank you for the idea, i allready tried it (automatic, and when the video starts rotated my phone to landscape, then even tried rotating to landscape before the video started ... ), but it's still the same, the video plays on my mobile screen too but that is upscaled to the TV (btw, the TV states at the hdmi info that the input is [email protected] - so the automatic detection works). And i do tried it with a full hd clip from youtube, played the same clip on my computer and of course the quality difference is clear. The same goes for the photos i made with my phone, when scaled up on the TV they look like they ware made by a 0.3 pixel camera, so poor quality with the upscale (and yes, the images are good quality, copied them to my computer and hdmi to the tv and they are excelent). So my dear LG,LG,LG ... what to do with you
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Thank you for the idea, i allready tried it (automatic, and when the video starts rotated my phone to landscape, then even tried rotating to landscape before the video started ... ), but it's still the same, the video plays on my mobile screen too but that is upscaled to the TV (btw, the TV states at the hdmi info that the input is [email protected] - so the automatic detection works). And i do tried it with a full hd clip from youtube, played the same clip on my computer and of course the quality difference is clear. The same goes for the photos i made with my phone, when scaled up on the TV they look like they ware made by a 0.3 pixel camera, so poor quality with the upscale (and yes, the images are good quality, copied them to my computer and hdmi to the tv and they are excelent). So my dear LG,LG,LG ... what to do with you
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Can i ask where u bought this cable hopefully not the chinese crap
only 1 that will work properly (Full HD Quality 2D and 3D Image on 720P) is the original cable. Ebay or similar websites sell the cable search for:
LG DHC-N100
I dont know what country u are from so have a look on ebay.com its 20$ but have a look for your country first could be cheaper!
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Can i ask where u bought this cable hopefully not the chinese crap
only 1 that will work properly (Full HD Quality 2D and 3D Image on 720P) is the original cable. Ebay or similar websites sell the cable search for:
LG DHC-N100
I dont know what country u are from so have a look on ebay.com its 20$ but have a look for your country first could be cheaper!
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from a mobile phone service, and yes, it's LG DHC N100 acording to the label, it was 10 Euro. and like i said, the TV states that the input is [email protected], so in theory it should work.
But may i ask, when you play a youtube clip, the phone displays the clip in it's 480x800px resolution and in parallel the tv displays it in full HD (or the phone doesn't display anything when the TV displays it in full HD)?
Or maybe in the latest 2.3.5 update is not working properly any more?
i think the issue is the vids from youtube, you're not seeing them in 1080 cause of being watched on a mobile device, try to download youtube mate dl a vid in 720 at least and check again in your tv, also have u checked the channel's info ??? does it say 480p/i???
will try to upload one later today
The only way of displaying full hd on your tv is playing videos with the video player.Everything else (youtube app for example) will not be displayed on full dh unfortunately
Hm, reset to defaults seems to solved the problem, and indeed only local content with video player is transmited in hd/full hd, however the quality is not perfect, when i play the same content from my computer compared to the phone's output there is a BIG difference ... i guess this is what the developers from Cyanogen refered to when they sait they have increased the maximum bitrate of the codecs ... what the phone outputs indeed seems like a lowered quality, so hopfully a new rom in the future will some this. LG could really pay a bit more to the developers to make something good, since the hardware in this phone is quite good, it's a shame that a poorly configured rom brings it down ...
Well, that's all folks,
Thank you everyone for your help.
I had same problem (still do), tried an app to set dpi higher to get higher resolution on phone but that just made me have to format it (was unstable). might work with a different firmware or something who knows.
ATM i'm trying to set up like a dual display but i have no idea if that's even possible.
or maybe setting hdmi output to screen resolution to reduce upscaling ugliness.
If anyone has any ideas... including the use of a custom rom...let me know please as being able to stream vids over wifi from tvlinks through my TV (only ones i already legally own ofcourse ) would be wild.
Im on V22A (2.3.5) p920 firmware on p925g hardware
I saw the "dual display" on the youtube for Optimus 2X with Tegra chipset, if you look at the videos, you will see that on the phone display a text with "outputting on secondery monitor" something apears ... i guess we'll see once a Cyanogenmod final release apears for O3D ...
All, after looking around a bit, I haven't found too much info regarding changing the display resolution when connecting an MHL (HDMI) adapter.
I hacked around a bit and found the following thread which seemed to get close:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2090396
What's the goal?
To try to get the output resolution over MHL to be 720p or lower. I started this thread to provide more info and hopefully spark some interest in the topic.
Why should I care if the output resolution is 720p?
The default resolution over MHL (on every HDTV I've tried) is 1920x1080 @30fps. This resolution is fine for playing movies/Youtube/Netflix/etc. However, having the resolution so high causes the Adreno GPU to really struggle when playing games/emulators over MHL. If the resolution was lower (e.g. 720p), games and general 3D would get a nice boost in frame rate, becoming much less choppy.
Info gathered so far:
I use the Monoprice Galaxy S III MHL kit (http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...10419&cs_id=1083314&p_id=10021&seq=1&format=2). The Samsung MHL adapter may behave differently.
Files in /sys/devices/virtual/graphics/fb1/ seem to be related to (and perhaps even control) the MHL HDMI output.
When the MHL adapter is not plugged in, the "connected" file contains a 0. When the MHL adapter is plugged in, the "connected" file contains a 1.
By default, the "video_mode" file has the contents "34".
Looking at EDID codes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data), we can see that 34 corresponds to 1920x1080p @ 29.97/30Hz.
By default, the "virtual_size" file has the contents "1920,1080".
The "modes" file contains a list of resolutions.
"U:640x480p-0
U:1920x1080p-0
U:720x480p-0
U:1280x720p-0
U:1920x1080p-0"
The "video_mode_str" file contains a textual description of the output resolution "1920x1080 p30 16/9"
The "edid_modes" file contains "4,3,32,34,1". These modes correspond to the following EDID codes:
1 DMT0659 4:3 640x480p @ 59.94/60Hz
3 480pH 16:9 720x480p @ 59.94/60Hz
4 720p 16:9 1280x720p @ 59.94/60Hz
32 1080p24 16:9 1920x1080p @ 23.98/24Hz
34 1080p30 16:9 1920x1080p @ 29.97/30Hz
Experimentation:
-running "echo 4 > video_mode" as root (in an attempt to change the resolution to EDID code 4 - 1280x720p @ 59.94/60Hz) shrinks the screen to 720p (resolution and framerate stay at 1080p/30) and aligns it to the upper left corner of the screen. The screen remained this way until I reverted "video_mode" back to 34.
-unplugging MHL and re-inserting resets to "video_mode" to mode 34 (1080p/30)
-changing virtual_size to 1280,720 did nothing (both before or after video_mode was set to 4)
Any ideas/help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'm not sure how much time I will have to work on this, so hopefully others become interested as well.
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Any ideas/help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'm not sure how much time I will have to work on this, so hopefully others become interested as well.
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Have you tried connecting the mhl adapter, setting video_mode_str then disconnecting from the tv then reconnecting? Maybe the tv would adjust to the resolution being output.
I am also looking for a way to get get a lower resolution when using MHL but me, it`s for a Galaxy Nexus. It`s become really laggy when a plug it and i can`t play game at all... i was expecting to play n64 and SNES emulator but it`s to much laggy even SNES. So i would be really interested to just use a lower resolution or even just disable the phone screen and just use the TV screen wich will certainly boost the performence due to the fact that my Nexus will just have one screen to use.
Any solutions to get 720p on MHL?
Nope. Haven't had much time to play lately and I got an ouya. I would try mojojoe's suggestion.
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I came across this thread looking for a solution just wondering if anyone has a work around. Seems like a feature that should be added. I am not having any performance issues but on 3 different TVs now the resolution is not set right for the TVs the out edge is cut off like the resolution is wrong. From my understanding the default is 1080p and all three of these TVs one brand new the other two a bit older the outer edge is cut off and the native rez is 1080p.....
hi folks interesting thread. i want to change the hdmi output on my s4 to 1080p24 with the samsung mhl 2.0 adapter. by default its 1080p60.
i'm rooted and using root explorer have found the relevant files, and sure enough the video_mode files has 16 in it - 1080p60. when i try to change this to 32 (1080p24) using a text editor (its mounted as r/w), the changes don't stick even though it says the file is saved ok. am i doing something wrong here?
with reference to where you said "-running "echo 4 > video_mode" as root (in an attempt to change the resolution to EDID code 4 - 1280x720p @ 59.94/60Hz) shrinks the screen to 720p (resolution and framerate stay at 1080p/30) and aligns it to the upper left corner of the screen. The screen remained this way until I reverted "video_mode" back to 34." - could you explain how you do this please? is this using terminal emulator?
I just purchased the official MHL adapter, plugged into my HDMI switch and it outputted at 24hz. Perfect for movies but choppy for Need for Speed.
Stupidly Samsung haven't given any options to change output format and since the s4 was outputting different hertz to different displays I figured it was just going by EDID.
There's a device called a HDMI doctor that can spoof any EDID information I set the HDMI doctor to setting 4 which is for 720p max output.
The s4 then immediately outputted at 720p/60hz.
The device costs about £50 so it's an expensive solution if you only use it for your phone. I have one because it enables me to output 24hz material to my TV/Projector when my AV amp doesn't support it.
Has there been any update since the last post? Do any new Samsung updates enable changing of output?
Having the same issues on my galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition. This is bull****, hdmi is basically unusable for anything else than video.
FIX!!!!!
I know this post is about 3 years old, but I found this post now while browsing in 2016 so I hope this helps someone out.
To change the resolution and make games and all apps lag free (with the method I found) you MUST be rooted.
If rooted, download a root terminal/cmd and type ru in prompt and hit enter. Then type wm size 720x1280. ***Will stay on indefinitely until reverted back with command ru then wm size 1080x1920***
Now your device will be 720p, but you will notice that your icons are huge. To fix that in CM12.1 go to setting/look and feel/DPI and change from 440 to 320. If you don't have CM12.1 download a DPI changer and change to 320, or find corresponding root cmd to change DPI... I don't know it because CM12.1 has one stock.
Now everything should be lag free and awesome for gaming! I use sixasis and screen standby and have been playing Zelda on the couch the last few evening.
Hope this helps at least one person.
Side note: I'm not sure about the aspect ratio for Samsungs or any other device... But these resolution are 16:9. I know my original note was something weird like 16:10. Most likely all devices now are 16:9, just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of that before changing screen res..... IF for some reason their aspect ratio is different.
ANDREtheG1ANT said:
I know this post is about 3 years old, but I found this post now while browsing in 2016 so I hope this helps someone out.
To change the resolution and make games and all apps lag free (with the method I found) you MUST be rooted.
If rooted, download a root terminal/cmd and type ru in prompt and hit enter. Then type wm size 720x1280. ***Will stay on indefinitely until reverted back with command ru then wm size 1080x1920***
Now your device will be 720p, but you will notice that your icons are huge. To fix that in CM12.1 go to setting/look and feel/DPI and change from 440 to 320. If you don't have CM12.1 download a DPI changer and change to 320, or find corresponding root cmd to change DPI... I don't know it because CM12.1 has one stock.
Now everything should be lag free and awesome for gaming! I use sixasis and screen standby and have been playing Zelda on the couch the last few evening.
Hope this helps at least one person.
Side note: I'm not sure about the aspect ratio for Samsungs or any other device... But these resolution are 16:9. I know my original note was something weird like 16:10. Most likely all devices now are 16:9, just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of that before changing screen res..... IF for some reason their aspect ratio is different.
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Im trying to do this at present, I'm on a rooted device and when using ru in terminal, I just get 'ru not found,' new to this so further help would be appreciated.
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Im trying to do this at present, I'm on a rooted device and when using ru in terminal, I just get 'ru not found,' new to this so further help would be appreciated.
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Your phone must be rooted. Use su command in a terminal and then type wm size 720x1280.
Hi,
I am owner of a Sony Xperia Tablet S with a docking station(using to connect to a TV through HDMI cabel). When I connect the tablet to my TV(Samsung 1080P) It is only recognized as 720P device. That's probably OK, but when I play 1080P movie It should change to 1080P video resolution but it doesn't happen. I tried to search for a HDMI output setting in the tablet but there is no such thing, I also tried several video players, even to play exact resolution size video - 1920x1080 no change... still only 720P. And to be honest 720P doesn't look very brilliant from this tablet. I hoped to use the tablet as some kind of "all round video player".
Is there any way that I can convince the tablet to play videos in 1080P/Full HD? Any idea how to resize HDMI output resolution?
I know that it is mirroring my device, but even though it should automatically resize when playing full HD movies. (Saw it on couple of videos, where it does really work. The TV shows 1080P videos and the devices screen stays black, I guess because of their lower resolution, but that's OK.)
Rider008 said:
Hi,
I am owner of a Sony Xperia Tablet S with a docking station(using to connect to a TV through HDMI cabel). When I connect the tablet to my TV(Samsung 1080P) It is only recognized as 720P device. That's probably OK, but when I play 1080P movie It should change to 1080P video resolution but it doesn't happen. I tried to search for a HDMI output setting in the tablet but there is no such thing, I also tried several video players, even to play exact resolution size video - 1920x1080 no change... still only 720P. And to be honest 720P doesn't look very brilliant from this tablet. I hoped to use the tablet as some kind of "all round video player".
Is there any way that I can convince the tablet to play videos in 1080P/Full HD? Any idea how to resize HDMI output resolution?
I know that it is mirroring my device, but even though it should automatically resize when playing full HD movies. (Saw it on couple of videos, where it does really work. The TV shows 1080P videos and the devices screen stays black, I guess because of their lower resolution, but that's OK.)
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I guess, your tablet only supports 720p output via HDMI.. It may be your TV only allowing 720p for HDMI output. Check your TV settings...
Hope this helps!
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I guess, your tablet only supports 720p output via HDMI.. It may be your TV only allowing 720p for HDMI output. Check your TV settings...
Hope this helps!
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My TV is 1080P I am 100% sure . The TV finds by itself that it is 720P and I cannot change it anywhere in the TV menu(or in tablet). It seems that the tablet sends only 720P - which is OK, but when playing movies it should change to 1080P. The tablet itself should also support 1080P. If I could only get to service menu - there are the settings and I could change the output resolution.
Even though it doesn't seem all newer sony smartphones/tablets should support 1080P. In the service menu it is just matter of few clicks to change the resolution. I don't have permission to send links here, so type on youtube: Sony Xperia S - HDMI - Playstation 3 Controller
Rider008 said:
My TV is 1080P I am 100% sure . The TV finds by itself that it is 720P and I cannot change it anywhere in the TV menu(or in tablet). It seems that the tablet sends only 720P - which is OK, but when playing movies it should change to 1080P. The tablet itself should also support 1080P. If I could only get to service menu - there are the settings and I could change the output resolution.
Even though it doesn't seem all newer sony smartphones/tablets should support 1080P. In the service menu it is just matter of few clicks to change the resolution. I don't have permission to send links here, so type on youtube: Sony Xperia S - HDMI - Playstation 3 Controller
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Well, nearly all TV's support 1080p (4k is next ) So I guess its the Sony software limiting it. Your specs can easily output 1080p. Although the software may be limiting it, try converting the video files to 1080p resolution and give that a shot. Also I have watched a demo of the xperia s tablet in HDMI mode and some parts on the TV screen are cut, so I'm guessing it ONLY supports 720p (unfourtanatly)
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Well, nearly all TV's support 1080p (4k is next ) So I guess its the Sony software limiting it. Your specs can easily output 1080p. Although the software may be limiting it, try converting the video files to 1080p resolution and give that a shot. Also I have watched a demo of the xperia s tablet in HDMI mode and some parts on the TV screen are cut, so I'm guessing it ONLY supports 720p (unfourtanatly)
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I already tried to play 1080P movie with exact resolution no luck... The TV/Tablet hardware are capable of it, even android as software, but sony gave no option to change the resolution anually, which most manufactures don't, but they change to 1080P when playing 1080P stuff.
Only thing that is cut is the bottom navigation bar(I'm not sure how you call it.), but that's ok because the tablet is 16:10 and the TV is 16:9 so It just cuts off the black bar with navigation buttons from bottom. Otherwise it shows 100% from the screen.
As far as I know service menu would help to change it(easiest way), or some kind of app that can change HDMI output resolution? Or app that can change the resolution of the tablet itself, than I guess would the TV recognize the device as 1080P. Any idea?
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I already tried to play 1080P movie with exact resolution no luck... The TV/Tablet hardware are capable of it, even android as software, but sony gave no option to change the resolution anually, which most manufactures don't, but they change to 1080P when playing 1080P stuff.
Only thing that is cut is the bottom navigation bar(I'm not sure how you call it.), but that's ok because the tablet is 16:10 and the TV is 16:9 so It just cuts off the black bar with navigation buttons from bottom. Otherwise it shows 100% from the screen.
As far as I know service menu would help to change it(easiest way), or some kind of app that can change HDMI output resolution? Or app that can change the resolution of the tablet itself, than I guess would the TV recognize the device as 1080P. Any idea?
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Well, if you want to mimic the 1080p output, then a program that uses root may be required. However, Im not sure if there is such app..
Your tablet doesnt probably have 1080p stream output capacity. Maybe you could plug it to a device with an upscaler
gilarthon said:
Your tablet doesnt probably have 1080p stream output capacity. Maybe you could plug it to a device with an upscaler
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I don't want just upscale the resolution. It won't make image any beter. As I know Tegra 3 does support 1080P, android as software too... so I can't see why it doesn't want to work? My girlfriend has also a Tegra 3 tablet(ASUS) and far as I know when she is playing 1080P it is a real 1080P on the TV and the screen(on the tablet is 720P) just stays black, I mean control buttons and everything is there, just the area where should the movie play on the tablet is black.
It seems I will have to root the tablet omg... Does anybody have an idea if there actually is an app like that? That can send it as 1080P output resolution? I tried to find service menu...no luck... if I could get there, like on the phone it would be just matter of few clicks and 30seconds of work...
Hi !
Is the 2560x1080 21/9 sceen resolution compatible with the nvidia shield tablet and the futur shield console?
I'd like to know before buying it..
Thanks
Nobody knows about that?
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you plugging it in to an external monitor with that resolution or trying to play video at that resolution? Either should work, though on the monitor you're likely to get a 1920x1080 image with black columns on the sides. If anyone has tested it, it would be good to know. The kernel source may also show if the device would natively support that resolution vs just sending out 1920x1080.
Exactly what I want to know, if we will have the black columns on the sides or the full screen without loosing the image quality.
It would be good if the 2560x1080 is fully supported or other 21/9 format, now there is a lot of choice with 1080p, 2k screen.
Has anyone got the answer to this question?
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Hi !
Is the 2560x1080 21/9 sceen resolution compatible with the nvidia shield tablet and the futur shield console?
I'd like to know before buying it..
Thanks
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I did some testing a while back, some pics here: https://twitter.com/ACharLuk/status/863033689873186817 and https://twitter.com/ACharLuk/status/863034904065572868
I had to tinker with adb wm.size settings to get it working and put the TV/monitor in zoom mode. I don't think there is a "plug & play" method, so you can do the same as me.
Run "adb shell wm.size 2560x1080" through adb and tinker with your monitor settings, hope you get it working