[Q] Screen Cap - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone know if it's possible to run the mini HDMI out through a Haupauge HDPVR which takes an HDMI input and then through a TV?
I tried using a mini HDMI to HDMI and plugged it into a female to female HDMI and then ran a HDMI to component through a Haupauge that only takes component cables and the TF 101 wouldn't recognize that it was plugged in but the issue isn't the female to female because if you plug a regular HDMI into the end of the converter and put it into a TV it works fine, just not through a component.
Or would there be another way to convert it to component in a way that the TF101 would think it was plugged into a TV.

That's because HDMI is protected. You can't convert HDMI to analog without actual hardware doing the conversion. What "HDMI to component" did you use?
The "way to convert it" is with something like this (can't say for sure that model would work, it's just an example).
The free (but harder) way to do it is this (not tested).

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RCA cable that is connected to a Micro HDMI

Is there a such thing as a micro hdmi to RCA cable for this or any phone?
I remember the HTC incredible had one but not sure if it works on the hdmi out phones. Can any one verify either of these questions. Need the RCA to run the video form the G2x to the screen in my car
you must be talking about one of these. which uses the Micro USB connection, not the HDMI port.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Cable-ADR6300-Vision-Composite/dp/B003Z6Q1DG
i have no idea if the G2x supports video out from it's USB port since it has HDMI.
and for your other question, going from HDMI to RCA requires a little box of magic (to convert from a digital signal to analog) and are pretty costly.
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Composite-S-Video-Converter-Adapter/dp/B0047PDBP0/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_2

Issues with micro-hdmi adapter

Heres my problem:
I have an old rear projector TV but I wanted to hook up my transformer to it. After some amazon scouring, this is the combo I got (see attached). http://db.tt/KXFmp0v
The cord\adapter just came in the mail, plugged everything in, and not working at all. Transformer doesn't recognize the hdmi plug, and when I plug the red/yellow/white cables into my TV all I get is a buzzing.
Am i doing something wrong or missing a step?
Have you tried: mini-hdmi to hdmi adapter -> hdmi cable -> HDTV? This will rule out any faults with the mini-hdmi to hdmi adapter and pin it down to that hdmi to vga/analog audio cable.
This wont work I believe, because the device you connect the tf to must communicate back to the tf via hdmi and establish the connection its all part of the arbitration process.
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I have not, as I don't have an HDTV.
Theoretically, shouldn't the device recognize when I plug the adapter in? Or would that only recognize once the actual cord is connected and a connection is established?
jambo89liam said:
This wont work I believe, because the device you connect the tf too must communicate back to the tf via hdmi and establish the connection its all part of the arbitration process.
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Sounds reasonable, considering HDMI-out never turns on until I turned my TV on (meaning it only turns on when it detects an active receiving end), unlike laptop/PC's HDMI-out which will enable itself if it detects the other end is connected to something (even if it is off)
The tv will recognize a connection but it has no way to tell the tf to send the picture because digital data must be send via hdmi to the tf and back again. Since the other end of your cable are analogue, there's no way of that happening.
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All of those cables are complete crap.
Converting an HDMI signal to an analog one requires computational processing power that isn't going to be hidden in the end of a cable. If it doesn't have some sort of box on it then it's just some Chinese crap that isn't doing any digital-to-analog conversion at all.
That buzzing you hear? It's probably the HDMI digital signal being interpreted by your speakers as noise.
I should add that the HDMI doesn't need to be some sort of fancy bi-directional process. You will however need a converter to convert that HD signal into analog.
Something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Compo...12/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1308956499&sr=8-31
But of course this would require your projector to have component video in (the three red,green,blue plugs). I know of no HDMI-RCA coaxial converter.
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When I connect my Asus tf101 to qumi q5 projector using mini to micro hdmi I get sound but no image when playing download movies but shows when connected to YouTube

[Q] Connecting TF to external DVI display

Hi !
I want to use an external screen with my TF. I spotted some stuff on ebay I think might work, but I'm not totally sure. Since shipping will take 3 weeks at least, I'd like to be 100% sure it will be the right one for the TF.
My screen doesn't have hdmi, it's a VGA / DVI screen, so I was thinking of buying an hdmi to DVI cable, and an Hdmi to mini hdmi adapter to plug it into the TF. Will this work ? Or is there something like the stupid USB port that will accept only the Asus usb adapter to be able to communicate with it ? (I'm pretty pissed of with that one, since I can't find it cheap in my country, and the only websites I found in the US willing to ship to Switzerland quoted me shipping a 200$)
That the stuff I was planning on buying :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
and
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
What do you think ? Might work ?
Thanks !
i've done this exact thing recently.. it works well.. I sat one of my monitors next to my bed and streamed some tv.
Though when i got the mini-hdmi to hdmi adapter.. it came with a pretty nice screen protector, too.
TL;DR: yes it will work.
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Thanks ! I'll do that, then ! For my part, it's to view pdfs (like Photoshop magazines) on a bigger screen while having the ability to flip through the pages. I already have two screens on the computer, can't put a third one without changing the graphic card, so I thought putting it on the TF would be a nice solution
that's a pretty good idea! its nice for watching shows in bed... or ircing with a bluetooth keyboard, too. ;D
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So, some news about my oh so great idea...
I finally received both the dvi - hdmi cable and the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter. I was very excited, plugged it in the screen and in the TF, and... "check cable signal". Yep. I tried finding stuff on the internet, nothing. Then my screen wouldn't work anymore altogether, I was a bit panicked. But yeah, as I like to live dangerously, I plugged it in my other screen... nothing, "check cable signal". (and then the screen wouldn't work anymore either and it took half an hour to get it back on the PC after switching cables, going VGA mode, playing with graphic card settings...)
I thought, maybe the TF isn't sending the signal properly, let's try the camera (Nex from Sony, with hdmi). Same thing, "check cable signal".
So now, my question... Is it possible both my screens are too old to be able to get hdmi signal ? (seems weird, but why not, they are not HD and don't have any hdmi entry) Or is the most probable scenario that my cable isn't working properly ? Or can it be the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter ? I only have my TF and my Nex with hdmi outputs, and they are mini hdmi, I have no other gear I can try with.
What do you think ? Screen is too old or cable is faulty ?
Are your monitors HDCP?
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No idea... How do I check that ? (but I read from a guy who put the TF on external monitor by using an hdmi - vga cable, surely it was not an hdcp screen)
I believe you should be fine. If the monitor/tv supports DVI (Digital Video Interface) then you will be fine with an HDMI to DVI adapter as HDMI is also a digital video signal. Now if it was HDMI to VGA (analog video) then you would need a converter of some type.
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I had the same problem, and it appears that my monitor does not handle the tf101 resolution through dvi (1280x960).
And there is actually no way to lower the tf101 output resolution through hdmi, afaik.
So check on the screen's manual the max resolution your monitors could handle through dvi (be careful,
it might be different than from vga).
my screen is in 1650x1050, or something like that. The other one should be at least a 1280x960. So it might be that the cable is not working properly ? How can I know if the problem is with the cable and not with the hdmi mini hdmi converter ? What do you think is more likely ?
Depends on the brand of cable and adapter. Usually the HDMI to mini HDMI adapter doesn't break, as it's just a block of plastic (in my case at least)
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Ok, I'll probably go and buy a new cable tomorrow. But I'm thinking about something : I figured the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter + cable puts a strain on the hdmi slot in the TF, so I'm wondering if it might be better to buy an hdmi mini hdmi cable, and an hdmi dvi adapter instead. The strain would be put on the external screen, but that's ok since the dvi is screwed to the screen.
Your opinion ?
I tried exactly what you are doing a few Weeks back, after assuming it would work and trying many combinations of wires I finally searched and found zero confirmed reports that you can use a dvi to hdmi cable for video output.
What I found works is going with a dvi to vga converter, its more expensive but looks like the only way without a straight hdmi to hdmi connection. Asus actually makes a converter for this purpose, HP also has one... I think they are both in the $40-50 range. I don't have links but just google Asus or HP hdmi to VGA converter
Good luck
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Thanks for that ! That way I won't have to buy another cable and have it not work. But, big question... why on earth are there hdmi to dvi cables if there is no way to convert video signal from hdmi to dvi ??? What use are these cables ?
BTW, I have a DVI to VGA converter, do you think I should try and stick it on my hdmi dvi cable ? (the thing is lying around, if I can get some use for it, I might as well try)
The Asus thing seems a great idea and I will probably end up buying it.
One thing I don't understand though... Why mini hdmi to VGA ??? Why not mini hdmi to DVI, if that needs a converter anyway, better make it dvi, no ? What about the resolution ? I don't want to get a stupid resolution on my screen because of problems with VGA (and I'm lucky I've still got a screen with VGA and DVI...).
Actually, what about a cable like this one ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...akeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
I would be pissed of if I have to pay $50 for asus adapter if I can get one for 8$ on ebay...
Never mind, after a quick search on the internet, some people tried and it doesn't work...
But actually, I HAVE to ask. Why doesn't it work ? What is the problem ? hdmi is digital, dvi is digital... WHY ???
(I haven't ordered my adapter from asus yet, still looking for a cheaper solution.)
Edit again : what I saw that doesn't work was the hdmi to VGA cable, I couldn't find anything about hdmi to dvi... I might go to the shop tomorrow with the TF and ask if I can try a cable there...
Mini hdmi to hdmi to hdmi-dvi converter works. I've tested this configuration myself.
For the vga, you need a converter, like the asus hdmi-vga one.
Just check the xda forum, searching with hdmi dvi keywords.
You'll have the answers to your question by digging a little more.
My lg monitor works fine with mini hdmi to hdmi to dvi. The ui is in 720p on the screen but if you play 1080p HW accelerated video the resolution changes as well. Wanna see a picture of proof? ;-)
I also have the converter and this works also fine. Have a look at the thread in the Accessoires forum.
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Alexane_A said:
Thanks for that ! That way I won't have to buy another cable and have it not work. But, big question... why on earth are there hdmi to dvi cables if there is no way to convert video signal from hdmi to dvi ??? What use are these cables ?
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Firstly, the video part of HDMI is electrically compatible with DVI, that is, they are the same thing just over different wires in a different connector.
However
TFT monitors _may_ not sync down to the specific TV-based refresh rates that HDMI outputs often use. Unless your monitor advertises that it will do the TV resolutions/refresh rates like 1080p/720p etc then its unlikely the TF1010 will display on them. The video output of the TF101 is 720p scaled up to a 1080p signal can your monitors do 1080p?
I haven't the slightest clue... One is quite old, a samsung 2232BW (but that's my main display, so I won't use it with my TF) and the other one is about 1 year old, an HP crap given with a cheap computer...
I might as well buy the cable. Other than that, if my monitor can't handle the 1080p, would it work with the asus hdmi to vga converter ?
(BTW, the prices in the shop are totaly crazy. I went today and saw that the hdmi to dvi cables were about $90, and I found one on ebay, $7 shipping included, gold plated, 3 years warranty)

[Q] Will these Mini DisplayPort adapters work?

I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
gksmith said:
I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
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Neither one as they are both thunderbolt plugs *NOT* mini display port, poor advertising on their part. A thunderbolt plug contains electrical signalling for both thunderbolt and mini display port but does not share the same physical connector.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Neither one as they are both thunderbolt plugs *NOT* mini display port, poor advertising on their part. A thunderbolt plug contains electrical signalling for both thunderbolt and mini display port but does not share the same physical connector.
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One of the Apple FAQs I read indicated that DisplayPort will work with devices with a Thunderbolt port but not the other way around and that the wiring on Thunderbolt was bi-directional.
I was hoping to get a couple of adapters instead of a bunch of cables.
Just done some research. Thunderbolt and displayport sockets and plugs are very much related it turns out. The thunderbolt cable uses a displayport socket with additional contacts added in locations which shouldnt interfere with displayport wiring. So you should be able to plug a mini displayport straight into a thunderbolt socket, but you cannot necessarily plug a thunderbolt cable into a displayport, but a "thunderbolt" > HDMI adaptor would most likely just use the cheaper displayport plug for maximum compatibility. So it should work, but it might not, depends on whether the company is genuinely using a displayport plug or a thunderbolt plug.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Just done some research. Thunderbolt and displayport sockets and plugs are very much related it turns out. The thunderbolt cable uses a displayport socket with additional contacts added in locations which shouldnt interfere with displayport wiring. So you should be able to plug a mini displayport straight into a thunderbolt socket, but you cannot necessarily plug a thunderbolt cable into a displayport, but a "thunderbolt" > HDMI adaptor would most likely just use the cheaper displayport plug for maximum compatibility. So it should work, but it might not, depends on whether the company is genuinely using a displayport plug or a thunderbolt plug.
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I spoke with MonoPrice and they claim they will work - I'm going to give it a try. If they don't work I'll ship them back. If they do, they are a nice alternative to the Microsoft ones which are pricey.
I'll post a review of the adapters when they come.
Now I'm searching for a AC charger for the unit. I need a spare and I don't want to pay the $80 Microsoft wants.
I use this one from amazon. its a good price and worked instantly out the package. very good quality picture and sound connection.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XCVQ3C/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
demandarin said:
I use this one from amazon. its a good price and worked instantly out the package. very good quality picture and sound connection.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XCVQ3C/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Is there one like this W/ out audio?
ericerk said:
Is there one like this W/ out audio?
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Not sure what you mean. I plug my hdmi cable into the adapter and plug into tv. Video and sound is automatic. Now if the tv has a dvi port on back, you can get the display port to dvi adapter. Then I guess you'll have no sound then and have to route sound through headphone jack or so on the pro ?????
demandarin said:
Not sure what you mean. I plug my hdmi cable into the adapter and plug into tv. Video and sound is automatic. Now if the tv has a dvi port on back, you can get the display port to dvi adapter. Then I guess you'll have no sound then and have to route sound through headphone jack or so on the pro ?????
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The RT, Basically I'd want to plug it into my monitor (no speakers).
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The RT, Basically I'd want to plug it into my monitor (no speakers).
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These are for the pro not the RT. The RT does *not* have a display port. It has HDMI instead (which I also think the pro should have had, seriously, who the hell has a display port, I have *never* in my life seen one, plenty of HDMI, DVI and VGA ports though).
I dont have an HDMI device without speakers sadly so I dont know how windows would handle sound. But I do know that if you plug an HDMI device into windows, and then plug in separate speakers (USB or 3.5mm audio jack) then windows outputs to the external speakers by default. Or you can right click the audio icon on your system tray, Playback devices, change it so that the RT speakers are in use and not HDMI speakers or whatever.
If your monitor is not HDMI, you can buy an HDMI>DVI cable, or external HDMI>VGA adaptor units. Contrary to the above, DVI *DOES* contain audio, source: I have an NVidia GTX460 with twin DVI ports on the back, I have a DVI to HDMI cable which connects to the HDMI on my TV, there are no other speakers connected and no other cables between TV and GPU, I get audio from TV fine, therefore DVI must be carrying the audio signal just fine and dandy (and windows does indeed say that the audio device is a TOSHIBA HD TV or something like that).
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These are for the pro not the RT. The RT does *not* have a display port. It has HDMI instead (which I also think the pro should have had, seriously, who the hell has a display port, I have *never* in my life seen one, plenty of HDMI, DVI and VGA ports though).
I dont have an HDMI device without speakers sadly so I dont know how windows would handle sound. But I do know that if you plug an HDMI device into windows, and then plug in separate speakers (USB or 3.5mm audio jack) then windows outputs to the external speakers by default. Or you can right click the audio icon on your system tray, Playback devices, change it so that the RT speakers are in use and not HDMI speakers or whatever.
If your monitor is not HDMI, you can buy an HDMI>DVI cable, or external HDMI>VGA adaptor units. Contrary to the above, DVI *DOES* contain audio, source: I have an NVidia GTX460 with twin DVI ports on the back, I have a DVI to HDMI cable which connects to the HDMI on my TV, there are no other speakers connected and no other cables between TV and GPU, I get audio from TV fine, therefore DVI must be carrying the audio signal just fine and dandy (and windows does indeed say that the audio device is a TOSHIBA HD TV or something like that).
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I Think I need to go back to kindergarden and learn how to read again, I'm missing everything...
SixSixSevenSeven said:
These are for the pro not the RT. The RT does *not* have a display port. It has HDMI instead (which I also think the pro should have had, seriously, who the hell has a display port, I have *never* in my life seen one, plenty of HDMI, DVI and VGA ports though).
I dont have an HDMI device without speakers sadly so I dont know how windows would handle sound. But I do know that if you plug an HDMI device into windows, and then plug in separate speakers (USB or 3.5mm audio jack) then windows outputs to the external speakers by default. Or you can right click the audio icon on your system tray, Playback devices, change it so that the RT speakers are in use and not HDMI speakers or whatever.
If your monitor is not HDMI, you can buy an HDMI>DVI cable, or external HDMI>VGA adaptor units. Contrary to the above, DVI *DOES* contain audio, source: I have an NVidia GTX460 with twin DVI ports on the back, I have a DVI to HDMI cable which connects to the HDMI on my TV, there are no other speakers connected and no other cables between TV and GPU, I get audio from TV fine, therefore DVI must be carrying the audio signal just fine and dandy (and windows does indeed say that the audio device is a TOSHIBA HD TV or something like that).
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The reason for display port is its the newer high standard in media transfer or whatever. Hdmi "supposedly" tops out at 1080p content. Display port can put out 4k or higher content. All or most apple devices use display port also. Its just including the latest and greatest like the pro usb 3.0 port.
Display port is a higher functioning port than just plain hdmi. For example hdmi does not support daisy chain devices but display port does. This means you can run multiple displays from a single port, with the right adapter.
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Neither one as they are both thunderbolt plugs *NOT* mini display port, poor advertising on their part. A thunderbolt plug contains electrical signalling for both thunderbolt and mini display port but does not share the same physical connector.
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gksmith said:
I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
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I forgot to come back and post my results. Both adapters work just fine. They appear to be 100% compatible with the Surface Pro.:good:
demandarin said:
The reason for display port is its the newer high standard in media transfer or whatever. Hdmi "supposedly" tops out at 1080p content. Display port can put out 4k or higher content. All or most apple devices use display port also. Its just including the latest and greatest like the pro usb 3.0 port.
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Hmm, the new Haswell based Dell's we got at work are all Display Port based. I guess it's something we're going to see more and more of. The new video card I got for my PC at home also came with Display Port along with all the other types.
DisplayPort appears to be intended more for the computer industry (for connecting to computer monitors, primarily), while HDMI appears to be intended more for most other consumer electronics (for connecting to TVs, primarily). I imagine that Microsoft figured that the Pro would more likely be used for real work, including in business environments, so DisplayPort made more sense, whereas the RT is more of a personal media consumption device (the kind that you use in front of the TV), so HDMI made more sense.
demandarin said:
The reason for display port is its the newer high standard in media transfer or whatever. Hdmi "supposedly" tops out at 1080p content. Display port can put out 4k or higher content. All or most apple devices use display port also. Its just including the latest and greatest like the pro usb 3.0 port.
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FWIW, the new HDMI 2.0 spec (I believe announced a few days after your post) supports 4K content. We ought to start seeing products with it by the end of the year.
Just an FYI but display port and thunderbolt both support daisy chaining devices, HDMI does not. This means you can attach multiple monitors to a single display port with the correct adapter.
HDMI is limited to a single output. You can amplify and split the output but it will not allow multiple independent displays.
I would much rather have a display port than an HDMI port.
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I still have never in my life seen a display with displayport as an option here in the UK with my own eyes.
I can confirm that I have both of these adapters, and they work just fine with my Surface Pro.
gksmith said:
I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
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SixSixSevenSeven said:
I still have never in my life seen a display with displayport as an option here in the UK with my own eyes.
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HP sells 24" monitors with display port and DVI connections. They sell these globally.
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MHL + DVI Adapter

I was hoping someone would have some insight regarding a problem I have using an MHL adapter with a DVI connector attached on.
I have this MHL adapter: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00827EGG2/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'm using dvi adapter: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JCQVW8/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And connecting it to this projector: http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-EP739-...TF8&qid=1381161207&sr=8-1&keywords=optoma+739
The projector doesn't have an HDMI cable so I thought i'd throw on an HDMI to DVI adapter to get around that.
I've used the HDMI cable and MHL adapter on other stuff before and they work great. I've used DVI adapter and HDMI cable to connect my laptop to the projector and that works too.
When I use the MHL adapter with the DVI adapter and connect it to the projector, my One S Screen becomes all scrambled and the projector detects a signal but it displays a blue or black screen or occasionally I see about half of the notification bar and the rest of the projection is the blue screen. Also, my phone freezes at that point and I have to force restart it.
My scrambled screen one s screen looks different every time, but something like this: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3894/img20110927034536.jpg
If the projector's manual will help, it can be found here: http://www.projectorcentral.com/pdf/projector_manual_2566.pdf
I'm running rooted stock rom.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
htc media link hd
did you try the htc media link?? i know its a bit expensive but i think that would be your best thing to try
you'll just need to connect the media link to your projector and use wifi to set everything up... no need for mhl and dvi connector

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