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[Q] Whats the advantage of all these AOSP Roms

Just wondering what the advantage is of all these AOSP Roms available in the developer section?
Are these better for the developers or the users?
I ask because it seems these ROMs dont support things like the dock, asus keyboard, don't have those nice Asus apps or google apps.
I know I can flash gapps but no idea about the rest..
I flashed an AOSP a while ago and found so many things just didnt work so I avoid them now...
It would be good if they could mention in the title if their ROM is AOSP or not.
Maybe I got this all wrong and you're welcome to educate me

Malandro2011 said:
Just wondering what the advantage is of all these AOSP Roms available in the developer section?
Are these better for the developers or the users?
I ask because it seems these ROMs dont support things like the dock, asus keyboard, don't have those nice Asus apps or google apps.
I know I can flash gapps but no idea about the rest..
I flashed an AOSP a while ago and found so many things just didnt work so I avoid them now...
It would be good if they could mention in the title if their ROM is AOSP or not.
Maybe I got this all wrong and you're welcome to educate me
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AOSP is from android. its the cleanest possible rom u can ever find. its like a fish u just caught and cooked with just a pinch of salt only. probably u wont experience lag and alot of bloatware taken off. asus apps abd google apps you have to dl urself. i find that troublesome too. HAHA! using a custom rom is different tho. that depends on how the dev develop it. if ur happy with stock then stick with it man.
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I would say stick with custom stock at the moment like revolver or frozn but that's just my preference after trying the aosp roms.
Some like aosp better but for me I will wait awhile until there completely stable before I give them a decent try.
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Mmmm fish
I'm using ARHD at the moment but reading through FROZN posts as I really want to try some other ROM...

Danzano said:
I would say stick with custom stock at the moment like revolver or frozn but that's just my preference after trying the aosp roms.
Some like aosp better but for me I will wait awhile until there completely stable before I give them a decent try.
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I've tried both custom stock and AOSP roms and there's no difference in stability.

horndroid said:
I've tried both custom stock and AOSP roms and there's no difference in stability.
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Ok well not so much stability now I guess but bugs there is still a difference I just feel aosp on the transformer is a bit to young on my gt540 I love aosp its rock solid works and has awesome customization's etc
Like I said maybe after some time but for now I say stock custom is best
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Just wondering what the advantage is of all these AOSP Roms available in the developer section?
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I used Asus' official ICS for about 15 minutes before I decided it was ugly and thrown together quickly.. also comes with a bunch of Asus garbage files in the system partition and a bunch of crappy apps i never use.
I tried EOS and was happy. Now at build #21 its fast, its stable, its got some nice customizations but is otherwise bone stock AOSP ICS, like a Nexus device has.
I also tried AOKP and while I could prefer it in the long run as it is a very slick ROM, but it just doesnt seem as snappy and smooth as EOS at this time.

a.mcdear said:
I used Asus' official ICS for about 15 minutes before I decided it was ugly and thrown together quickly.. also comes with a bunch of Asus garbage files in the system partition and a bunch of crappy apps i never use.
I tried EOS and was happy. Now at build #21 its fast, its stable, its got some nice customizations but is otherwise bone stock AOSP ICS, like a Nexus device has.
I also tried AOKP and while I could prefer it in the long run as it is a very slick ROM, but it just doesnt seem as snappy and smooth as EOS at this time.
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Does EOS still have the minor lag when scrolling home screens? It's barely perceivable but enough to annoy someone like me. The build I tried was 18 or 19.

Hi, what do you say about CyanogenMod9 ROM? Have you tried it?

ezechiele25172012 said:
Hi, what do you say about CyanogenMod9 ROM? Have you tried it?
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I was dissatisfied with CM9. The one that I have been using most has been Android Revolution HD 3.1.0 (GPS locks quick, WiFi stable, dock works). Just recently I have dropped FROZN on my TF101 but have been unable to successfully transfer my APK's to it using APK Batch Installer During the process I receive a segmentation fault. So far it has been only with that ROM that I have had this issue with. Aside from that FROZN ROM is fast!! Can't say much about battery life seeing how I just started using it.

justinramos83 said:
I was dissatisfied with CM9. The one that I have been using most has been Android Revolution HD 3.1.0 (GPS locks quick, WiFi stable, dock works). Just recently I have dropped FROZN on my TF101 but have been unable to successfully transfer my APK's to it using APK Batch Installer During the process I receive a segmentation fault. So far it has been only with that ROM that I have had this issue with. Aside from that FROZN ROM is fast!! Can't say much about battery life seeing how I just started using it.
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Also I'm using last revolution HD with msticninja'kernel and it's very very stable and fast but it's also my first cooked rom (I just bought my TF101 a month ago). Why are you dissatisfied with CM9? Frozn is faster than CM9 and revolution?
thanks

ezechiele25172012 said:
Also I'm using last revolution HD with msticninja'kernel and it's very very stable and fast but it's also my first cooked rom (I just bought my TF101 a month ago). Why are you dissatisfied with CM9? Frozn is faster than CM9 and revolution?
thanks
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These custom ROMS vary in benchmarks but there really is no perceivable difference in speed with normal usage. They are all faster and more optimized than the stock Asus ICS.

Suggestions for new Transformer

Hi all,
My name is swagstr and I've been active in the OG EVO forums for a good part of the last year. I also have an EVO 3D and just picked up an OG Transformer from 1saleaday.
I haven't received the unit yet, but I am trying to figure out exactly what I'm going to do with it when I receive it.
Before I start, I AM NOT A NOOB... But I've never used/rooted a Transformer, so bear with me. I've been doing a lot of research for this device too (and I know how to hit search )
If the device comes with Honeycomb... should I leave it there? I'm going to be sharing it with my gf and I'm sure she is going to become agitated if our new tablet is rebooting periodically.
Also, is ICS that unstable? What causes the reboots? It seems to be the "Sleep of Death" but I'm still a little fuzzy
I know a lot of what I can do is going to depend on what my serial number is Just looking for a good general direction.
In summary:
Does ICS suck as bad as everyone makes it out to be?
Is AOSP as bad (or worse) than stock ICS
If it comes with HC, should I leave it there?
General list of ROMs and kernels that are bad ass
Thanks for reading! I hope I will be able to contribute to this awesome device and learn as much as I know about the OG EVO soon

swagstr said:
Hi all,
In summary:
Does ICS suck as bad as everyone makes it out to be?
Is AOSP as bad (or worse) than stock ICS
If it comes with HC, should I leave it there?
General list of ROMs and kernels that are bad ass
Thanks for reading! I hope I will be able to contribute to this awesome device and learn as much as I know about the OG EVO soon
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1. No. Its the loud minority that makes it seem bad. Yes, there are issues. Yes, some gets RR/SOD's quite often (a lot of people, myself included, gets it very rarely or not at all).
Random reboots during use is extremely rare. Its when its sleeping it usually happens.
2. No, its a hell a lot better in every aspect.
3. Up to you, I say no. The goodies in ICS makes it more appealing than HC, despite its issues. But if you want a really really stable device - then go with HC (but not stock).
4. I like team EOS builds. reports say that guevenors kernel is very good, but I havnt tried it myself.
I suggest you try out the roms available in the dev. section and stick with the one you like best.

Thank you!!
Goatshocker said:
I suggest you try out the roms available in the dev. section and stick with the one you like best.
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And always a good policy
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Goatshocker pretty much hit the nail on the head with the loud minority thing, in my personal experience ICS actually fixed a bunch of problems I had with HC. I did flash a custom rom and kernel, which I Highly recommend you do. If you get your tablet on hc and you can root with razorclaw use that then flash a rom, if not upgrade to the proper ics version for vipermod opt. 1 and use that.

I suggest android revolution hd, it's ics and very stable
Stock hc is stable but is not using all capacity from tegra2
Stock ics is using the power of tegra2 but is unstable.
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*Poll* 4.0.4 Sense Roms

So now that we have some 4.0.4 roms out now, which ones are you using? Which is your favorite?

CleanROM for life!

CleanROM for sure. As long as scrosler keeps it up, I will be running CleanROM for the life of my phone. There's no reason to flash anything else.

CleanRom hands down
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Nocturnal for me, constant updates, and Xs always implementing features that myself and other ask for.
Came from CleanROM btw.

Sirius X because of the best battery life outta all of them.

Clean ROM
Clean ROM.
Better support, better stability and better looks
Scott... my donation to you

Been using CleanRom for a while. Now with 4.0.4 it is very smooth and my battery life is a bit better as well. But the best part is, it just works and works well.
Thank you Scott.

Uhhh, isn't against the rules to have "best" threads?
This should last..

Im probably going to load clean rom soon so that I can give that a shot. I was impressed when I saw someone with it.

danix180 said:
Clean ROM.
Better support, better stability and better looks
Scott... my donation to you
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All thats debatable Nocturnal is best for looks IMO

I currently use CleanRom as it is the most stable and best DD.
Nocturnal is snappier but it isn't nearly as reliable as Scott's Roms.

clean
CleanROM +1

blaine.hale said:
Uhhh, isn't against the rules to have "best" threads?
This should last..
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It's an opinion thread. Maybe someone who hasn't tried one of the roms yet will get some incite from others and decide they wanna try it. It seems like every thread on xda nowadays has someone that feels the need to tell the op that their thread is wrong or not wanted. If you don't like it, don't read it.
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Easy Ceanrom.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
It's an opinion thread. Maybe someone who hasn't tried one of the roms yet will get some incite from others and decide they wanna try it. It seems like every thread on xda nowadays has someone that feels the need to tell the op that their thread is wrong or not wanted. If you don't like it, don't read it.
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Polls like this also turn picking a ROM into a popularity contest, which it should not be. Just because a ROM is popular, does not mean it will be the best for your needs. I've had devices where the lesser known ROM by a new dev ran much smoother for me and suited my needs much better than the super-popular one.
These threads also encourage laziness. Just read through the ROM threads, pick the ones that look like they fit your needs, and try them out. Looking for a few recommendations to get started is not a bad idea. But to just pick one ROM based on a thread like this, and not try others is robbing yourself of trying out some pretty cool stuff.
Asking for the "best ROM" is always going to be problematic. There is no "best" ROM for all needs or preferences. "Favorite" would be a much better word to have used.
I don't personally have a particular dislike for this thread, just throwing it out there.

_MetalHead_ said:
CleanROM for sure. As long as scrosler keeps it up, I will be running CleanROM for the life of my phone. There's no reason to flash anything else.
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Same. Unless ofcourse jellybean gets a stable port.

karan1203 said:
Same. Unless ofcourse jellybean gets a stable port.
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We'll have official JB soon enough, and surely Scott will release a JB CleanROM shortly thereafter. And then I will flash it and smile.
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Beamed from my TN Special Edition powered HOXL on Rogers.

redpoint73 said:
There is no "best" ROM for all needs or preferences.
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Also, the same ROM will perform differently on different phones. Just because 50 other people have wonderful experiences with a ROM doesn't mean it's not going to behave strangely on yours. How you use it and the apps you have installed can have a big effect on your experiences.

Which TW Rom?

I haven't rooted my phone yet, but i've been following the cm10 forums and it seems its still pretty buggy right now. I haven't seen much about the tw roms like synergy or beans. Which would you guys prefer and recommend for the most stable and best performance tw rom.

bby144 said:
I haven't rooted my phone yet, but i've been following the cm10 forums and it seems its still pretty buggy right now. I haven't seen much about the tw roms like synergy or beans. Which would you guys prefer and recommend for the most stable and best performance tw rom.
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also interested. i havent flashed roms in a while but i like soem of the touchwiz features.
CM10 wont have motion control support, right?

No, CM10 does not have Motion Control support right now, though the Alpha build for CM10 works well, I wasn't pleased with the battery life. So, I'm about to ty CleanROM. Synergy wasn't for me, but it is a solid ROM. For 4.1 and Motion support, best bet is to wait for Samsung to release 4.1 for the GSIII, eventually somebody will root it, and that should include motion support.

I prefer Synergy, its always been great for me, and i get amazing battery life with it. I haven't tried beans so i can't comment on his, but it really boils down to personal preference. Some will say synergy and some will say beans.

Does synergy have any big bugs that someone would not flash because of it? And how is the data reception, i haven't been getting that good of reception even with stock.

bby144 said:
Does synergy have any big bugs that someone would not flash because of it? And how is the data reception, i haven't been getting that good of reception even with stock.
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The latest nightly appears to have everything worked out and data reception for me has been great.

Personally, I use SynergyROM (currently nightly R50).
I have yet to encounter any significant bugs. The Samsung Motion controls seem a bit off, but I'm not sure if that's how stock is or if it's just the ROM.
As for your questions about reception, SynergyROM has increased WiFi and Data transmit power. It supposedly means faster speeds, which I assume is achieved through a stronger connection?

Running Scott's CleanRom and it runs great. I see new version 2.0 is out now.

Cleanrom IS the only ROM I haven't tried as it wasn't out yet, but of all the others I kept returning to root66 as everything Single thing works perfectly, it is the fastest set-up I have ever used on ANY phone and battery life is as good as any other ROM (regardless of some of the ludicrous claims posters make for battery life)

Bean 8 with imosyeons LeanKernel 2.2 > Root66>Synergy 1.7...have not tried clean rom.

I've seen no bugs so far in the latest Synergy nightly (r50). Synergy has been my daily driver for a while now and is very stable with excellent support from the developer. Highly recommend.

CleanROM 2.0 just came out today and from the description sounds great. However, several of the bloatware apps appeared after installation (VZ Navigator, Color, etc) even though I de-selected them in the installer. I'm trying to get my post count to 10 so I can let the dev know in his own thread.

Seems people are saying different ones are the best. Still not sure so i'll probably look more into each one.

They didnt appear in mines
VERIZON GALAXY S 3 (CM10)

The NoSympathy ROM is pretty dang awesome. Pretty much just root, deodexed, and zip-aligned. I ran it with lean kernel and it was very happy with performance. I honestly think it is a great combination of performance and stock TW.
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mikejr83 said:
The NoSympathy ROM is pretty dang awesome. Pretty much just root, deodexed, and zip-aligned. I ran it with lean kernel and it was very happy with performance. I honestly think it is a great combination of performance and stock TW.
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Is the "VRALF2 vs G1" referring to the kernel, the ROM, or the radio/modem. I get so confused with all the conflicting terminology on these forums.

bby144 said:
Seems people are saying different ones are the best. Still not sure so i'll probably look more into each one.
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different roms for different needs.
research them and see which is best for yours!

mariod505 said:
Is the "VRALF2 vs G1" referring to the kernel, the ROM, or the radio/modem. I get so confused with all the conflicting terminology on these forums.
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All of the above, in each context. F2 and G1 are two different builds (official ones from Samsung), which each have their own kernel, system base, and radios. You wouldn't mix and match kernels with system bases, but radios are interchangeable. I recommend the latest G1 radio, for the record.
Most TW ROMs get built off the latest base (and get ported over to new bases when they are released), because they tend to add bug fixes. You should know which build your ROM is based off, because in some cases third-party kernels can be compatible with one base and not another. Read carefully.

CleanRom 2.3 or CM10 nigthly? can't decide.

I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!

itrof61 said:
I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
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Here is my short opinion:
Performance=about the same
Stable=Cleanrom(zero bug for me), CM10=buggy.
Features=CM10 (more bells and whistles
So if you just want a stable fast rom then use Cleanrom with Clemsy Kernel and data2sd...you're flying.
If you want to play with feature sets (looking for cool things) then go with CM10

What kind of cool things?
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Thanks!!

sai561 said:
What kind of cool things?
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Like vol button control camera zoom in/out...Currently, not much, since there are many bugs, but the goal for CM10 here is (once all the bugs are done), to have all the bells and whistles (like stuff on note2 may be implement here). For Cleanrom the OP would like to stick to STOCK as much as possible.

I had Baked Bean a long time and decided to try CleanRom 2.3 and did so by first updating my hboot via the official jb. Changed kernel to Clemsyn's build 22 and boy my tab is flying! Turned Forced GPU rendering on too and its blazing performance wise. Baked beans got more customizing for you. Bit I'll stick with this setup for a while.
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Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.

sai561 said:
Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
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Here ya go Click this ones for cleanrom 2.3

Cleanrom zero bugs here.

OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?

GaryParr said:
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.

jaxboater said:
Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Right, because it is based on stock. I was more asking about non-stock such as CM, AOSP or AOKP.

GaryParr said:
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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To answer your question:
1. Yes, in that the CM/AOSP/AOKP ROMs do not properly support most keyboard shortcut keys, and some of them do funky things with the volume keys on the tablet as well.
2. Non-stock ROMs: No screen saver; dock unlock works fine, but see point 1 above. System performance settings: some work more or less okay, others do not. CPU scaling seems unreliable. Brightness settings varies as well: some report the highest brightness available being Super IPS+, others say the highest brightness is significantly less bright than that. I have no other light meters available than those that Nature gave me (meh ), so I wouldn't be able to definitively tell you. The touchpad cannot be disabled on non-stock ROMs (which is THE most important dealbreaker for me). Sound sometimes is funky as well.
I'm very happy with CleanROM (except for those dodgy notifications).

How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?

BoosterSilver said:
How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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I do not believe in benchmarking (far too artificial), so I do not have hard numbers for you. On stock JB, I still saw I/O issues, even when transferring relatively small files. I transferred over 6 GB of files yesterday (e-books, specifically, lots of 'em) and it was fast -- the pauses have been reduced to very, very minor instances on CleanROM 2.3.
Fluidity... Very subjective. I was blown away by the smoothness of CleanROM 2.2, and told Scott I did not believe he could further improve on that. He just smiled. He did it again with 2.3 -- he has made some incredible strides. I haven't tried the latest and greatest ASUS stock JB ROM, however -- it might have improved on fluidity significantly. The only way to tell is to test it yourself.
My expectation, based on experience with the stock ROMs: they're built more for reliability than for speed or fluidity (relatively speaking), so I'm not even considering letting CleanROM go.
Hope it helps, even if a tiny bit.

Thanks! Yes it does. I'm picking up the 64gb next week so I guess I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.

BoosterSilver said:
I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
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NO! WRONG WRONG WRONG!
You're not actually wrong at all about the upgrade/rom sequence you should flash but I wanted to make sure I had your attention. I don't know how much you've scoured the forums, but for the love of god use NVFlash before you install any updates, linked here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
This essentially makes a device-specific backup that can be restored no matter what you do to the device software-wise. As the thread points out, it is an absolute failsafe against any and all softbricks.
This process is incompatible with the bootloader packaged with stock JB, so it's essential that you use NVFlash first. You can use the backup you'll create with the new bootloader once you do upgrade, but you won't be able to make one in the first place if you OTA first. If you don't do this before JB and something goes awry with flashing, you're totally out of luck. Especially with the warranty you're giving up.
In summary you'll want to go:
NVFlash -> Stock JB -> CleanRom
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!

B00T_Sp0rk said:
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
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No apologies necessary the risk WAS worth it! I had only started scouting the TF700 forum and did not realize I would have ended up screwing myself just like I had with my HOXL. Thanks for the heads up!