My cousin has got Desire X recently, I've checked the phone and the performance is amazing, and the camera works flawlessly with brilliant framerate. I'm a noob when it comes to knowledge about porting and stuff, thought I'd ask here, is a port possible with the same performance on Desire S?
cyborg47 said:
My cousin has got Desire X recently, I've checked the phone and the performance is amazing, and the camera works flawlessly with brilliant framerate. I don't know much about porting and stuff, thought I'd ask here, is a port possible with the same performance on Desire S?
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I believe the Desire SX ROM has that. Not sure though.
And if you just want performance, a AOSP ROM is better.
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MaartenXDA said:
I believe the Desire SX ROM has that. Not sure though.
And if you just want performance, a AOSP ROM is better.
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What about the camera performance? The framerate/performance of DX's camera app is amazing.
cyborg47 said:
What about the camera performance? The framerate/performance of DX's camera app is amazing.
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That's just the hardware.
Using AOSP ROMs is your best choice.
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My desire xs Rom is a complete port of the desire x, personally I think it is one of the smothest sense 4 roms we have, (although as its my Rom a am more than a little biased to be fair.) The camera fully works in all modes (burst, capture while filming, etc) why not give it a try, and give it a direct comparison to your friends Desire X. I have only done a quick comparison with a display model in my local phone store so would be really interested to hear back on a real world comparison.
Desire XS is awesome, smooth and quick
For more theme, mods, tweaks, you can try Viper ROM too.
@thantos2024, any info update on your work on Jelly Bean Sense port?
Desire XS is really fast and beautiful
aby2aby said:
Desire XS is awesome, smooth and quick
For more theme, mods, tweaks, you can try Viper ROM too.
@thantos2024, any info update on your work on Jelly Bean Sense port?
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I second that. I like it very much. It gives my desire s a new life and face. One observation: latest evernote app is not working, I had to install a old version of it. And show recent used app function is not working.
Thanks a lot for thantos2024's great work.:laugh:
Since I am a newbie here I could not comment in development section. I would like to report that with this rom my bluetooth keyboard is not working with my phone. It connected fine but the text input was not showed. The keyboard was working fine with my previous rom.
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oh, to show recent used app, I need to long press search button. this is nice.
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oh, to show recent used app, I need to long press search button. this is nice.
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Or you can choose to long press the menu button for the recent apps.
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Or you can choose to long press the menu button for the recent apps.
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No, long press menu button is not working here.
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I really hope that the bluetooth keyboard problem could be solved. Because I love the rom so much. It is so beautiful and responsive. Keep up the great work.
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No, long press menu button is not working here.
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Check Settings->Display and Buttons->"Recent apps" button
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I know this has probably been asked plenty of times, but I'm bored of cyanogenmod (again) and wanted people's opinions on the best as we seem to be getting a lot of official support now. Which sense rom is your favourite and reasons why please?
I've had my fun with ICS and am now waiting for a stable release so no ICS recommendations for ICS please.
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Choice of ROM is a very personal thing but at the moment I am using Endymion v3 and am extremely happy with it. It just seems to work, and I use it heavily for work - Bluetooth, Wireless, Calls, SMS, Camera, GPS etc
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Choice of ROM is a very personal thing but at the moment I am using Endymion v3 and am extremely happy with it. It just seems to work, and I use it heavily for work - Bluetooth, Wireless, Calls, SMS, Camera, GPS etc
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I've seen Endymion as the best choice and I would've switched back to it but the list has grown since I flashed Endymion which is why I wanted to know which people prefer now.
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Another vote for Endymion very nice rom with great support,even though I'm on aosp oxygen at the moment as it absolutely flys.
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I'm Endymion V3 and just wouldn't consider anything else to be honest .The help and support lowveld gives is amazing
i also use endymion v3 if i had the delight to use sense
I use Endymion 2.2 with the fixes from 3.0. I only like the stock look, so don't feel the need to theme and lose 200+mb.
It's all personal preference!
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I use Endymion 2.2 with the fixes from 3.0. I only like the stock look, so don't feel the need to theme and lose 200+mb.
It's all personal preference!
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But my actual system memory has gone up from 23mb to 73.7mb and even with all my crap on it still have 300mb Internal free
Another vote for Endymion here, awesome ROM.
campbs said:
Another vote for Endymion here, awesome ROM.
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+1
same here........I hope that you're now downloading it!
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same here........I hope that you're now downloading it!
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Wow so nothing has changed I see! Downloading now. Thanks guys
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+1 to endymion v3 here too!! great sense 3.5 rom, excellent battery life and awesome tweaks!
The only gripe I have is the the sense 3.5 dockbar, I find it ugly and somewhat blown up, especially with the text (applications, personalization)
kept changing between the two-button bliss bar and stock 3.5 bar and couldn't settle on either
hope someone would make a sense 3.0 /2.1 dockbar mod for it!!
Is there a way to sense 3.5 rom has a normal font for the screen of our Desire S? Small fonts is something that annoys me a lot, and see how Rhyme rom only has something like that, but it seems that unfortunately proxuser left development of the Rom :/
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Is there a way to sense 3.5 rom has a normal font for the screen of our Desire S? Small fonts is something that annoys me a lot, and see how Rhyme rom only has something like that, but it seems that unfortunately proxuser left development of the Rom :/
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My problem too
I hate the small fonts, but I've started to get used to them in 3.5 now..
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My problem too
I hate the small fonts, but I've started to get used to them in 3.5 now..
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I still cant get used, a small font spoil the visual appearance of the entire rom
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I still cant get used, a small font spoil the visual appearance of the entire rom
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Yeh.. I sort of got used to it now though
However when I went to use a Desire S in the store again, 2.1 sense, the icons and fonts were massive!! I was like wow!!
Also I used the Sensation XL, and sense 3.5 looks lovely on it, the icons are all giant and easy to see!
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Yeh.. I sort of got used to it now though
However when I went to use a Desire S in the store again, 2.1 sense, the icons and fonts were massive!! I was like wow!!
Also I used the Sensation XL, and sense 3.5 looks lovely on it, the icons are all giant and easy to see!
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So, i have to buy a phone with larger screen now ?
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Yeh.. I sort of got used to it now though
However when I went to use a Desire S in the store again, 2.1 sense, the icons and fonts were massive!! I was like wow!!
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I have exactly the same sentiments when I flashed Sense 3.0 roms , especially the menu and settings fonts!!
still am using Sense 3.5 as my daily rom
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I have exactly the same sentiments when I flashed Sense 3.0 roms , especially the menu and settings fonts!!
still am using Sense 3.5 as my daily rom
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Hyperion is based on the OTA though, so its got big fonts
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Hyperion is based on the OTA though, so its got big fonts
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AFAIK Hyperion is Sense 3.0 rom, not 3.5, right?
Its a easy question, What do you think about ICS on the Desire S? Did or would you use it?
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Internet Connection Sharing?
I think it is pretty efficient and easy to use.
Do you have any concern about it?
....haha =)
I use the rom and I am
satisfied from Superkid but
without gpu is the biggest
issue is not, unfortunately,
given....
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Sorry for my realy.... Realy Bad englisch :-D
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I really like the theming of it and the Browser is much improved! Cant wait for working galery and camera from superkid ICS Rom!
I currently use this ROM from Superkid. I love it!
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not sure whether the additional soft (touch) buttons will be useful, since DS already has (hard) soft buttons =)
but still, looking forward to a stable and fully working ICS rom! very hopeful
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not sure whether the additional soft (touch) buttons will be useful, since DS already has (hard) soft buttons =)
but still, looking forward to a stable and fully working ICS rom! very hopeful
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Even the current beta don't have them anymore, you use the hardware buttons like on gingerbread (with some additional features).
Ics rocks, there are for sure some bugs and features left that should be added/fixed, but the beta is already my daily.
I think there's nothing else to say
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I really like the theming of it and the Browser is much improved! Cant wait for working galery and camera from superkid ICS Rom!
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On my phone works, the gallery
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Even the current beta don't have them anymore, you use the hardware buttons like on gingerbread (with some additional features).
Ics rocks, there are for sure some bugs and features left that should be added/fixed, but the beta is already my daily.
I think there's nothing else to say
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Yup am waiting for the camera to be working for the betas
as soon as it's done i'm gonna download and flash!
all the best to the devs
i know it's an early build still, but i seem to like it less every time i install it. Maybe a stable build will change my mind, who knows...
I like it. Would be my daily except I rely on wifi hotspot and USB tethering. When both work I can use as daily driver
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Maybe u can use airdroid to sync musik and Co
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just try the beta Rom
Hyperion works great!
Would like ICS with Sense
I happen to really like the Sense interface. Having tried SuperKid's ICS beta4, I can say there are a lot of things that I like, but I would rather have a Sense ROM based on ICS.
Back to the GREAT Endymion v3.0 for now...
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I happen to really like the Sense interface. Having tried SuperKid's ICS beta4, I can say there are a lot of things that I like, but I would rather have a Sense ROM based on ICS.
Back to the GREAT Endymion v3.0 for now...
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me too I was using ICS Beta for 2 days, and I noticed headphone didn't work in beta4r1 when I played music while I was waiting for the bus at station. but Play/next/previous buttons on the headphone works perfectly except for the sound playing from phone set.
Then I installed Endymion V3.0 in the bus But I really like the UserInterface of ICS , many features are still not working.. But I'll switch to ICS again when Headphone /mic is fixed..
That's nice ,realy ,i love ICS interface . Have problem but is best rom for ever . Thanks superkid .
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me too I was using ICS Beta for 2 days, and I noticed headphone didn't work in beta4r1 when I played music while I was waiting for the bus at station. but Play/next/previous buttons on the headphone works perfectly except for the sound playing from phone set.
Then I installed Endymion V3.0 in the bus But I really like the UserInterface of ICS , many features are still not working.. But I'll switch to ICS again when Headphone /mic is fixed..
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Are you sure that you picked the right package? This issue was solved in 4r1 and it works for me without any problems.
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Good news is that after spending over a week or so digging into the framework to see what changes HTC did, I managed to undo some of the mods that HTC did, like kill(hibernate) the previous app after x mins, so now multitasking works for the most part like it should. I just now need to free up some more memory to able to run more apps simultaneously even tho I'm running the bare minimum for memfree settings
Goooooood wooooork
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That's awesome. Thanks for the update.
this is awesome...even with the last multitasking mods, it still doesn't work as it should.
Very glad to hear this is getting better
Very nice.
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Good news is that after spending over a week or so digging into the framework to see what changes HTC did, I managed to undo some of the mods that HTC did, like kill(hibernate) the previous app after x mins, so now multitasking works for the most part like it should. I just now need to free up some more memory to able to run more apps simultaneously even tho I'm running the bare minimum for memfree settings
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Hurray....
Calkulin said:
Good news is that after spending over a week or so digging into the framework to see what changes HTC did, I managed to undo some of the mods that HTC did, like kill(hibernate) the previous app after x mins, so now multitasking works for the most part like it should. I just now need to free up some more memory to able to run more apps simultaneously even tho I'm running the bare minimum for memfree settings
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Sweet!
Aaaand this is why I was thrilled to see that Calk got a One X.
Awesome!
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Brilliant work, Calk!
Awesome, can't wait to hear more. This is really driving me nuts these days, particularly with the RedditNews and Google Maps apps.
I would love to see the progress of this!
Keep the good news coming!
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Awesome. My #1 peeve on the One X.
This fix + Scott's Cleanmods would make this thing just about perfect for me (still can't make ice cream ).
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You da man
Hopefully when the kernel source code out we can have more free memory and usb host and all other kind of goodies!
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Any updates? Any thing we can flash ?
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Very nice!!!
Hopefully the Sense devs can implement this as well to get some nice AOSP-like multitasking action
Awesome! Thanks!
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Good news is that after spending over a week or so digging into the framework to see what changes HTC did, I managed to undo some of the mods that HTC did, like kill(hibernate) the previous app after x mins, so now multitasking works for the most part like it should. I just now need to free up some more memory to able to run more apps simultaneously even tho I'm running the bare minimum for memfree settings
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You going to make a rom for us? I miss them.
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Awesome! Can't wait to test it out!
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See...you guys have some awesome and experienced devs here ..wish something like this was being worked on for the LTE..jealous
I did the OTA update to 4.04, but noticed that I'm still on Sense 4.0. I've seen on the news that Sense 4.1 is out. Is there something I'm missing?
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I did the OTA update to 4.04, but noticed that I'm still on Sense 4.0. I've seen on the news that Sense 4.1 is out. Is there something I'm missing?
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Its only available for the international/tegra 3 one x. If you want it on the ATT verison, you would have to root and flash a port of it. (which you cant BTW since you updated to 4.0.4)
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Its only available for the international/tegra 3 one x. If you want it on the ATT verison, you would have to root and flash a port of it. (which you cant BTW since you updated to 4.0.4)
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Thank you Do you think it will come to the AT&T version? I have been tempted to root this phone, because I was pretty active in ROMs on the Samsung Captivate, but I opted to wait for the JB update to see how the OTA runs. And I'm sure AT&T's 4.04 will be rooted in the future.
4.1 is also on 2.29 that was just released to o2 users in Germany.
There is nothing wrong with ports as long as the developer knows how to properly port it. My ports are 100% flawless and working fine, Since no one wants to post the 2.29 RUU for any developers we have to port from other public RUU's or system dumps.
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There is nothing wrong with ports as long as the developer knows how to properly port it. My ports are 100% flawless and working fine, Since no one wants to post the 2.29 RUU for any developers we have to port from other public RUU's or system dumps.
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Yeah i'm running your rom...its flawless.
Port =/= buggy (at least sometimes)
What's new in 4.1?
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good question. I don't see much difference.
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What's new in 4.1?
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Here is the complete changelog based on observations http://phandroid.com/2012/08/05/sen...to-blaze-through-quadrant-scores-nearly-6000/. Listing it down here for lazy users like me
Live wallpaper lag has been fixed
There’s a dedicated button in the Camera app to switch between Front/Backward facing cameras. (earlier you’d have to go into the menu for that.)
A dedicated button to switch tabs in the browser. (You’d have to go into the menu for that, too)
Complete removal of all 3D-Effects in the launcher leading to a completely lag-free experience.
Probably the most important- Rebased on Android 4.0.4
Added ability to remap the recent apps button/ Long-press recent apps/ Long-press Home as Menu. (yes, it removes the Virtual menu bar) under Settings->Display, Gestures and Buttons
New, blazing fast kernel. We mean it. It scored a pretty impressive 59oo+ in Quadrant benchmark (compared to 5100+ on Sense 4)
Wifi-dropping/ Icon showing weak signal Fixes.
Better Battery life- 5 Hour+ Screen-on time as compared to a measly 3 Hour+ on Sense 4.
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Even without the sense 4.1 update. The 4.0.4 update has a few of those upgrades (remaping)
I have also noticed the battery life and speed are noticeably better with just the 4.0.4. It's a whole new phone.
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I've noticed mine runs hotter on 4.04
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I've noticed mine runs hotter on 4.04
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I've noticed that off and on at times. More off than on.
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Even without the sense 4.1 update. The 4.0.4 update has a few of those upgrades (remaping)
I have also noticed the battery life and speed are noticeably better with just the 4.0.4. It's a whole new phone.
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I agree. Battery life is insane. I last a whole day with gaming on my phone.
But the 0 3D effects will help with the lag on the homescreen so that's the only reason I want the Sense 4.1 launcher
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But the 0 3D effects will help with the lag on the homescreen
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4.1 still has Rosie 3d effect.
danny39 said:
I agree. Battery life is insane. I last a whole day with gaming on my phone.
But the 0 3D effects will help with the lag on the homescreen so that's the only reason I want the Sense 4.1 launcher
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I have no clue what this "lag" is that people talk about. I'm on CleanROM 4.5 now, but have seen nary a stutter in literally months.
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4.1 still has Rosie 3d effect.
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Yea, it's just tweaked and less obvious. Helps improve rosie scrolling speed etc.
Thanx for that info shank!!!
Unfortunately, as a noob I upgraded my AT&T 1X to 4.0.4
Typically how long does a root take to appear for most updates!?
Do you think the root for 4.0.4 will be held back because JB is so close!?
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Yea, it's just tweaked and less obvious. Helps improve rosie scrolling speed etc.
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What is Rosie!?
wide_open said:
Thanx for that info shank!!!
Unfortunately, as a noob I upgraded my AT&T 1X to 4.0.4
Typically how long does a root take to appear for most updates!?
Do you think the root for 4.0.4 will be held back because JB is so close!?
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What is Rosie!?
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Root is available as soon as an exploit is found, if and when an official jb release is given it will then be a whole new issue for root as more than likely the exploit is patched or would no longer work due to firmware changes etc, it seems there must be an independent root method for each build. no universal deal unless HTC overlooks the exploit being used which 99.9% of the time they don't.
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What is Rosie!?
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This is a quote from another post but pretty much sums it up
"From all I've gathered through this community, Rosie is like a theme on steroids - HTC uses it as a key piece of branding across nearly all their devices. In addition to being the main user interface in terms of widgets, buttons, launcher, etc it also includes an number of hooks and tweaks into core Android itself designed to make the experience more friendly for non-geek users (no insult implied!)."
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After giving it some time for Jelly Bean to hit developers, I've seen 2 versions of Jelly Bean that work on the Inspire, both of which are variants of JellyTime. There is a CM10 version out there, but the Inspire/Desire is not on their supported list and after installing it I can't get it to boot past the splash screen.
Has anyone seen any other JB ROM's out there? I've seen Randomblame's and Synergy's and I must say both are noticeably faster, faster internet, faster APP install, and improved efficiency overall.
Please post all questions in the Q & A section. Thanks!
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Those are the two. Since nothing official will be hitting any similar devices it probably won't be a big collection of roms like gb and ics. I bet someday we will see a port of a jelly/sense combo but it will probably be missing stuff so it is actually usable. Our devices are becoming dated compared to jelly bean devices. It's like running windows 7 on an old Athlon. I know I am looking forward to upgrading. My inspire has been a great device, but most of the really great devs have upgraded and moved on, and I can't wait til I can do the same. I've only got 11 more months lol. Keylime(or whatever the k version will be called) will probably be out by then.
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Please post all questions in the Q & A section. Thanks!
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My apologies, thanks for moving it. I am new to this.
I've been using randomBlame's jelly bean nightlies for some time now. It is nearly perfect but the one major flaw made me revert back to ice cold sandwich: the screen blacks out when the first sound is initiated after sleep. It's actually a problem with cm10 and it interferes with calls. When that is fixed it will be my new os.
JellyTime
I just flash this rom (below) yesterday night and i must say thsi is the best one I've flashed in awhile.
its fast its good on battery life and the design is Crack lol. only problem i have is the camera function
dont like that i have to snap a shot just to calibrate it. and the Apollo music app, installing a different theme it doesnt seem to work.
other than that the dialer works, wifi is excellent and the battery life is sweet....check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778202&page=811
The Remedy said:
I just flash this rom (below) yesterday night and i must say thsi is the best one I've flashed in awhile.
its fast its good on battery life and the design is Crack lol. only problem i have is the camera function
dont like that i have to snap a shot just to calibrate it. and the Apollo music app, installing a different theme it doesnt seem to work.
other than that the dialer works, wifi is excellent and the battery life is sweet....check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778202&page=811
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A workaround for camera focus is to hold button and then slide finger off it sideways. It will focus without taking a picture. Works for me.
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A workaround for camera focus is to hold button and then slide finger off it sideways. It will focus without taking a picture. Works for me.
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When I launch the camera application the picture is upside down until I snap a shot. Then it returns to normal operation. :cyclops:
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When I launch the camera application the picture is upside down until I snap a shot. Then it returns to normal operation. :cyclops:
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He is working on a fix for that now.
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He is working on a fix for that now.
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Thank you :good:
I'm currently using JellyTime R13 and I haven't run on any issues. Great battery life, very fast and the camera bug stated earlier in this post is fixed. Only thing not working is the headset controls, but for me that's not a big deal. I use it as my daily driver. I haven't used the other one but I think it should be very similar to JellyTime since both are unofficial CM Nightlies.
Still has backlight issues I think. Biggest deal killer for me is not supporting all wifi channels...
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