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SlimPort [USB to HDMI, DVI, VGA and DisplayPort]

The exciting features of the Nexus 4 just keep on coming. It seems it will support a technology called SlimPort which allows you to use the micro USB to connect the phone to a second display via HDMI, DVI, VGA and DisplayPort.
The only connector available at present is for HDMI, which also charges the device while connected. Other connectors are to be released in the future.
Info from Engadget.
EDIT: New review from AnandTech. See below:
In my Nexus 4 review, I noted that the device was the first shipping handset to include support for SlimPort via an Analogix ANX7808 SlimPort transmitter. When I wrote that review it wasn't immediately clear what advantages SlimPort offered over MHL, which has become relatively ubiquitous in the year or so since its introduction. Since then I've acquired the SlimPort microUSB to HDMI 1.4 SP1002 and VGA (D-SUB) SP2002 adapters from Analogix for testing out SlimPort on the Nexus 4.
SlimPort is a new video output standard which works over microUSB, and is effectively an MHL alternative based on the DisplayPort standard administered by VESA. SlimPort is offered both license and royalty free, and supports up to 1080p60 or 1080p30 with 3D content over HDMI 1.4 (up to 5.4 Gbps of bandwidth), in addition to support for DVI, VGA (up to 1366x768 and 720p at 60 Hz), and DisplayPort. What's different about SlimPort from a user-facing perspective is that external microUSB power is not required for the adapter to work and is instead only required for optional charging. At the same time, the adapters draw no power from the source to operate.
I've spent some time playing around with the SP1002 HDMI adapter, which I believe is based on ANX7730, and the SP2002 VGA adapter, which is likely based on ANX9832. As of this writing, the Analogix SP1002 adapter is available on Amazon for around $30 USD. I haven't seen the SP2002 available online anywhere yet, however.
When connected to the Nexus 4, the HDMI adapter rotates the UI into landscape and mirrors the display just as expected. Resolution is scaled to 1080p60 on the Nexus 4 up from the panel resolution of 1280x768, which results in some letterboxing. As expected there's no requirement to have microUSB power connected to the adapter, I tested it with and without external microUSB power, all this does is just enable charging.
I posted a video review (shot on the Samsung Galaxy Camera) demonstrating the Nexus 4 doing mirroring with the SlimPort SP1002 adapter and received a query about whether the combo enables multichannel audio over HDMI as well. I tested VLC for Android with some .MKVs I had laying around with 5.1 AAC tracks and found that VLC will decode the multichannel audio and ship it over as 5.1 PCM to my A/V Receiver, so this does work, surprisingly enough. There's no bitstreaming support as far as I can tell, however. As an aside I was able to playback a number of 720p MKVs with hardware decoding checked in VLC for Android and 5.1 audio out with no dropped frames. The Nexus 4 seems to be a passable platform if you're looking to play the occasional 720p video over HDMI — provided you have the free storage for it.
I also tested out the SP2002 microUSB SlimPort to VGA adapter, which has a longer cable and correspondingly beefier module for accommodating the D-SUB connector on the end. I tried with a Dell G2410 LCD display and XGA resolution DLP projector and saw an output resolution of VGA (640x480 at 60 Hz), which wasn't quite what I expected. The SP2002 should work just fine with 720p60 over VGA, and I know both monitors expose the proper EDID, it seems as though the Nexus 4 just defaults to this mode. Just like the HDMI adapter there's a microUSB port on the back for optional charging, though the dongle doesn't require external power to operate.
Thus far I'm fairly impressed with SlimPort. I enjoyed discrete microHDMI connections on devices when that was the norm, though finding a microHDMI to HDMI cable was always the challenge. Later MHL seemed a step in the right direction, but requiring three cables to do display mirroring seemed like a bit much. With SlimPort I think we've finally arrived at something close to ideal with the standard not requiring external power to function. It will be interesting to see how SlimPort, MHL, and Miracast adoption fare in the coming year as mirroring to a larger display is in the cards as a convergence trend for smartphones and tablets.
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Charges the device while it's connected? That's awesome!

I questioned that at first as well. If you follow the link to the adapter and look at the pics you'll notice that it has a USB input. I assume this has to be connected to charge the phone. As far as I'm aware HDMI doesn't carry power.

Only TVs with built in MHL HDMI Ports provide power.
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I read that the adapter has to have a power source to work... I assume then that this additional micro USB input is to enable use with TV's that dont support MHL.

Nothing like this exists now? Intriguing concept.

Will this work without having the charger connected? It seems nearly identical to Samsung MHL adapters.

I bought one. It seems like the packaging said something about the micro usb port being optional if you want it to charge, but I threw that stuff away and don't have an N4 to test with.
I think the "HDTV Cable" on the SlimPort site is going to be a cable that's micro usb (SlimPort) on one side, and HDMI on the other without any power input.

I ordered one as well
Cant wait to try it

FatalityBoyZahy said:
Charges the device while it's connected? That's awesome!
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As funny as that sounds, that would actually be nice. I know it's not SlimPort, but I use a Monoprice MHL-HDMI adapter currently. It requires power to work. Unfortunately, it can't negotiate high current and the phone shows USB charge mode. But with the screen active, it ends up losing 10-100ma. I haven't researched the actual micro-usb pinout to see if video uses the usb data pins or what. If somehow it doesn't, I might be able to short them out and have it go into AC charge mode.
Or maybe the better MHL adapters actually do negotiation and do charge?
Either way, hopefully the initial feedback on the N4 is good enough that I can overlook the fixed battery and storage.

ziddey said:
As funny as that sounds, that would actually be nice. I know it's not SlimPort, but I use a Monoprice MHL-HDMI adapter currently. It requires power to work. Unfortunately, it can't negotiate high current and the phone shows USB charge mode. But with the screen active, it ends up losing 10-100ma. I haven't researched the actual micro-usb pinout to see if video uses the usb data pins or what. If somehow it doesn't, I might be able to short them out and have it go into AC charge mode.
Or maybe the better MHL adapters actually do negotiation and do charge?
Either way, hopefully the initial feedback on the N4 is good enough that I can overlook the fixed battery and storage.
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My MHL adapter charged my GS3 charged when watching the Avengers movie Samsung gave T-Mobile GS3 customers. It was a pretty slow charge, but prevented my battery from dying like it should have.

I think this would be a lot more appealing in dock form.
The cable+block adapters are always a bit awkward to connect up and actually use in my opinion.

Will an MHL adapter work? I was using one on my GS2 and want to know if I will be able to use it on my N4

the video on this page specifically says that no external power source is needed.
http://www.analogix.com/products/slimport.html

I tried mine yesterday
I works with no power at all
Although I must say the phone got pretty hot when watching a YouTube video
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Just ordered one of these Slimport adapters from Amazon since my Google order has just shipped. Reasonably priced and power is optional unlike MHL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK6HttbgTaI&feature=plcp

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I tried mine yesterday
I works with no power at all
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Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday but I can't get a picture on the TV, when I plug everything in the screen on the N4 rotates to landscape and the phone loses sound, all good so far. But when I select HDMI source on the TV I just get a black screen.
This is annoying because the S3 worked perfectly with the Samsung adaptor.

p5f said:
Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday but I can't get a picture on the TV, when I plug everything in the screen on the N4 rotates to landscape and the phone loses sound, all good so far. But when I select HDMI source on the TV I just get a black screen.
This is annoying because the S3 worked perfectly with the Samsung adaptor.
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Is your TV set to the correct HDMI port?
Nexus4, Tapatalk

There are apparently 3 dongles out there being marketed with a male microusb and female hdmi output:
Can someone please provide clarity on which ones will work with the nexus 4? Specifically looking for someone to post results for example 1
1. Generic MicroUSB MHL dongle cable : these are sold on ebay and optionally have an extra female microusb on them for OTG or power. This one will NOT work on Galaxy S3 bc of pin change. Can someone report if this type works on Nexus 4? It would be the most affordable solution if so
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-Micro-U...748540?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e74de5c3c
2. Samsung SGS3 MHL dongle cable: bc of samsung pin change, this cable was specifically required for SGS3. - Reported not working on Nexus 4
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/09/galaxy-s-iii-incompatible-with-previous-mhl-dongles/
3. Slimport microUSB cable - Reported working on Nexus 4, but pricey
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG?tag=5336653508-20

30 Pin to Micro Usb Adapter?

Hi i have a speaker dock, which is designed in favour of the iphone/ipod and was wondering if anyone knows of a 30 pin(female) to Micro Usb(Male) adapter something similar to the Lightning adapter.
I know of the DockBoss+ and http://goo.gl/XJqNw these would work but looking for something that the phone can actually sit on the dock and be stable which is why i am looking for something similar to the lightning apdapter.
Cheers

I'm pretty sure all that adapter does is allow you to charge with a 30pin cable... I don't think it does data...
-EP

eep02b said:
I'm pretty sure all that adapter does is allow you to charge with a 30pin cable... I don't think it does data...
-EP
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Yea i understand that, i would be using Aux to play sound, just looking for it to charge.

HDMI cable??

guys whats cable works for S4?

You need a special adapter cable.
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...vptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=m&ref=pd_sl_87s25qpbk8_b
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HDMI Cable
arnob_xperia said:
guys whats cable works for S4?
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I bought the cable below and it works pretty well, though the phones battery still drains faster than the cable will charge. Even with the OEM 2A charger. What you should be looking for is an 11 pin MHL cable or adapter (other phones use what I believe is a 5 pin cable). The nice thing about the one I bought is that it includes an adapter for the S4 but it will work with any MHL compatible device.
http://www.amazon.com/Skiva-Samsung-Galaxy-Optimus-Devices/dp/B00A9H30LU/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1374464607&sr=8-23&keywords=galaxy+s4+hdmi+adapter

jeepin05 said:
I bought the cable below and it works pretty well, though the phones battery still drains faster than the cable will charge. Even with the OEM 2A charger. What you should be looking for is an 11 pin MHL cable or adapter (other phones use what I believe is a 5 pin cable). The nice thing about the one I bought is that it includes an adapter for the S4 but it will work with any MHL compatible device.
http://www.amazon.com/Skiva-Samsung-Galaxy-Optimus-Devices/dp/B00A9H30LU/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1374464607&sr=8-23&keywords=galaxy+s4+hdmi+adapter
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You are correct. 11 pin MHL connectors will work with the S4, which also means the Note 2, S3, and a few others will be compatible with the S4. However the S2 is a 5 pin connector and will not work.

I was looking for one too. Thanks!

Thanks for the link

Did you check the adapter? What about the video quality?

This one does not work...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DZJSAVY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

ryant35 said:
This one does not work...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DZJSAVY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I had actually gotten this one and was wondering why it was not working, I thought it might just be rom. Was trying to find more info. I guess it might just be the cable, dam.
Anyone have experience with an HDMI Adapter working with Cyanogenmod?

Working USB-C to 3.5mm/Charging Port Adapter

Can anyone post a link to a reasonably priced USB-C to 3.5mm/Charging port adapter that works with the PH-1? Every adapter I found on eBay or Amazon states they are only for Moto phones and do not work on Pixel's or Galaxies, so I assume they will not work on the PH-1.

The one on the Google Store for the Pixel 2 works from what I hear. I'd double-check though.

I bought many cheap ones off of eBay and none worked. I finally bought the Moshi one listed on the Google store and still does not work. Anyone able to find one?

lxcivic4life said:
I bought many cheap ones off of eBay and none worked. I finally bought the Moshi one listed on the Google store and still does not work. Anyone able to find one?
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The cheap ones don't work.
You need the ones that say "built in DAC".

The Moshi adapter does have DAC. The 3.5mm audio portion of it worked. The charger port did not charge the phone. I'm looking for a dual 3.5mm/USB-C charging adapter.

lxcivic4life said:
The Moshi adapter does have DAC. The 3.5mm audio portion of it worked. The charger port did not charge the phone. I'm looking for a dual 3.5mm/USB-C charging adapter.
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Have you had any luck? I am looking for something similar too...i.e., where I can plug in my headset and charge my phone at the same time...

lxcivic4life said:
The Moshi adapter does have DAC. The 3.5mm audio portion of it worked. The charger port did not charge the phone. I'm looking for a dual 3.5mm/USB-C charging adapter.
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My son has the Moshi adapter for his Pixel 2 and I tested it out on the Essential.
I found that it worked. You can listen and charge at the same time. I put a USB power meter on the output of the 2.1A USB-A charging brick and found it will charge with that style power source at about 1A and it doesn't matter if you're listening or not. The same power adapter directly connected without the Moshi dongle goes at about 1.5A. This is an older non-USB PD spec power brick. Don't have a USB C power meter so can't check with something like the OEM Essential power brick. In theory, the Moshi dongle supports USB-PD so you might get faster charging.
FWIW, the lack of headphone adapter bothers me and my most critical use case is the ability to charge and listen in a non-Bluetooth car. The Moshi dongle is pretty clunky for any use IMO. Ended up buying an inexpensive Bluetooth receiver for the car and it works great.

larry62 said:
My son has the Moshi adapter for his Pixel 2 and I tested it out on the Essential.
I found that it worked. You can listen and charge at the same time. I put a USB power meter on the output of the 2.1A USB-A charging brick and found it will charge with that style power source at about 1A and it doesn't matter if you're listening or not. The same power adapter directly connected without the Moshi dongle goes at about 1.5A. This is an older non-USB PD spec power brick. Don't have a USB C power meter so can't check with something like the OEM Essential power brick. In theory, the Moshi dongle supports USB-PD so you might get faster charging.
FWIW, the lack of headphone adapter bothers me and my most critical use case is the ability to charge and listen in a non-Bluetooth car. The Moshi dongle is pretty clunky for any use IMO. Ended up buying an inexpensive Bluetooth receiver for the car and it works great.
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Hello, can you send a link about that Moshi adapter?
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cope007 said:
Hello, can you send a link about that Moshi adapter?
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It's on Google store

thelangosta said:
It's on Google store
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Hello.
Any other place. I don't have Google store.
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cope007 said:
Hello.
Any other place. I don't have Google store.
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I'm not sure. That's the only place I've seen it

cope007 said:
Hello, can you send a link about that Moshi adapter?
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Moshi sells it directly (https://www.moshi.com/usb-c-digital-audio-adapter-with-charging.
That is where my son purchased it. Looks like they are out of stock right now. Every time I've looked at this product listed on the Google Store its always "coming soon". Have no idea if its ever been in stock there.

Dextop setup...

Starting a thread to see what kind of kooky and cool ideas peeps have come up with for their setup.
I just bought another Logitech MX570 trackball mouse. My 3rd. I like to go back and forth between traditional mice (MX Performance) and trackball so I don't get carpal tunnel and tendonitis. I'm up in the air about the dedicated keyboard. I will probably get the Logitech K800 as that has been my favorite so far. I would like to try the Craft but too expensive.
I know many of you are just going straight usb-c to HDMI adapter and using Bluetooth accessories. Those are welcome too. It would be really nice if Logitech came out with a sweet sweet keyboard with touchpad built in. There are a couple but the cheap one is just that, cheap and low quality. I bought my mom the K400 and it works fine for her but not for me. Logitech needs to step up their game on a keyboard with touchpad built in.
I am also using Logitech because of the unifying receiver so only USB port is taken for 2 accessories. Have not decided on a USB thumb drive yet.
What setups are you running for productivity with DEX? Please share so there is a thread peeps (that actually use the search function) can come and see what options there are to fit their workflow. Or haven't thought of.
I will update later today see if my USB controllers work for emulators and what the latency is, which I am hoping is just as good as mouse input. I was expecting critical latency that would make the experience bad.
Anybody try with a USB powered monitor yet?

I'm sorry, but..... pics or it didn't happen, right?

I invested in this dex stuff just as a hobby. I already have 4 pc’s plus a laptop and an iPad Pro 12.9 i carry with me daily.
I passed on it with the note 8 but thought to give it a go the note 9.
I also use the mxperformance mouse for my pcs but i picked up a jelly comb foldable portable wireless keyboard. It has a click-style mouse pad and the keypad is pleasant to use. I also picked up the dex pad , hdmi 2.0b latest spec hdmi cable.
I guess a good way to use this setup will be when I download films to the device. Rather than copy the file over to the pc, i can just connect the dex to the display and have better flexibility.

I found the jelly comb folding keyboard to be crap. Double characters everywhere. Moved to a generic wireless mouse on one of the USB ports and an MS folding BT keyboard. It's replaced my work laptop for 80% of tasks. Oh and powering the HDMI adapter by a Nintendo switch USB C power supply as it kicks out 2.6A which is enough to charge the phone at the same time.

I probably won't post a pic (if I even remember) until Friday or Saturday. I think I will try using it one day and a USB 3 thumb drive. I think DEX only supports USB 2 though. Another missed opportunity by Samsung to make this an even better pseudo desktop experience. Did Sammy use 3 or 3.1 for their USB C? Having two or even one USB 3 A port would've been sweet for local storage. Between a Logitech unifying receiver and a SanDisk UltraFit USB 3 drive and you're talking one smaller desktop.
Samsung could make some corny commercials pitting it against Intel NUC boxes like their Apple commercials. ???

Hi guys I have my dex set up, however I'm looking for a Bluetooth keyboard my monitor only has an hdmi, vga connection so I need advice on what will be my best option maybe I should get a cable with a USB receiver for an wireless keyboard any inputs are welcomed thanks.

I'm using my Note9 with Dex running on HP X3 lap dock. Great setup for travel but also when I need to edit things locally on the phone----tasker for example. Everything works on the lap dock including sound. Track pad works but could be better.

soundneedle said:
I'm using my Note9 with Dex running on HP X3 lap dock. Great setup for travel but also when I need to edit things locally on the phone----tasker for example. Everything works on the lap dock including sound. Track pad works but could be better.
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Woah, you have a working sound for hp elite? Is there any special way to get it?

I had picked up a DeX dock from Amazon for 60 bucks. I used a logitech anywhere BT mouse and the blue BT keyboard. Mouse and keyboard work great. Resolution looks crappy, seem kinda blurry for a 1080p screen. Still needs work, I was hoping to get the DeX working good enough to use as a htpc streamer for my living room TV. Still fun to play around with tho.
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does DeX work with any cheap HDMI to usb C adapter that supports 4k and 60 Hz? There are some on eBay for 7 bucks

dex output is crystal clear for me. I have used this on an lg 4K 27 inch monitor and my old school plasma Panasonic 3D display from 2011
I have a late spec hdmi 2.0b cable and again the resolution is not blurry at all. Plenty of videos on the web to also show the clarity .
Yes dex works with a regular hdmi spec cable usb c to hdmi. I have also used dex with just a cable (waiting on the pad tho show up)

What happens when incoming call?
Hi. Not sure where to post this. Thinking of jumping from iPhone to Note9
Can somebody tell me if I will be able to use the Note9 as a normal handset with an incoming call? (While in Dex). Everything I see indicates the acutal Note9 runs independent when docked but I can't find any example of making/receiving a call on one.
I want to use a USB extension cable and just be able to use the phone like normal when connected to Dex. Not sure what happens to the audio if I'm also using external speakers via Dex.
Thanks!

RTNote9 said:
Hi. Not sure where to post this. Thinking of jumping from iPhone to Note9
Can somebody tell me if I will be able to use the Note9 as a normal handset with an incoming call? (While in Dex). Everything I see indicates the acutal Note9 runs independent when docked but I can't find any example of making/receiving a call on one.
I want to use a USB extension cable and just be able to use the phone like normal when connected to Dex. Not sure what happens to the audio if I'm also using external speakers via Dex.
Thanks!
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I've received several phone calls when on DeX.. Since I'm working in a personal room, I'm just answering the phone calls using speakerphone.. If you're using external speaker, the audio will be routed there (I once used my UE Boom 2 speaker for answering call)

thanks.
I know I'm still connected to Dex via a USB-C extension cable but I'd like to be able to just pick up the phone and use it "privately" like normal. Is that possible?
I believe something changed with the Note9 making it work differently with Dex.

RTNote9 said:
thanks.
I know I'm still connected to Dex via a USB-C extension cable but I'd like to be able to just pick up the phone and use it "privately" like normal. Is that possible?
I believe something changed with the Note9 making it work differently with Dex.
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If you're using USB-C to monitor, in my experience, you can just answer phone normally on phone

vwite said:
does DeX work with any cheap HDMI to usb C adapter that supports 4k and 60 Hz? There are some on eBay for 7 bucks
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Got one for 20 that works fine

vwite said:
does DeX work with any cheap HDMI to usb C adapter that supports 4k and 60 Hz? There are some on eBay for 7 bucks
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I got mines from Amazon for $15 no issues, got it hook up to a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.

mike28 said:
Hi guys I have my dex set up, however I'm looking for a Bluetooth keyboard my monitor only has an hdmi, vga connection so I need advice on what will be my best option maybe I should get a cable with a USB receiver for an wireless keyboard any inputs are welcomed thanks.
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Apple's Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse 2 work both flawlessly. I only wish my Dex cable was longer, to truly be able to have the TV far from me...

xonyl said:
Apple's Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse 2 work both flawlessly. I only wish my Dex cable was longer, to truly be able to have the TV far from me...
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Are you talking about the HDMI cable? HDMI cables are cheap.

mike28 said:
I got mines from Amazon for $15 no issues, got it hook up to a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
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which one did you get for 15 bucks? I got one from ebay for 7 bucks (only the adapter hdmi to usb c) and didn't work at all but maybe is my hdmi cable which is really old