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I had a Nexus One from launch till 4 months ago and the developer support made me fall in love with Android.
I decided to test out WP7 with the hopes that it would develop into something great; however, I am immensely unsatisfied with the rate of development on this platform.
I would like to come back to Android and this phone is very appealing to my needs.
My question: Will the developer community heavily support this phone like they did with the Nexus One?
My 2 favorite things on Android were Cyanogenmod and Kang-o-rama. I would be incredibly happy if these items were available on this phone.
I'm sure this phone will have PLENTY of dev support. I know that cyanogen himself and a few others from teamdouche are getting the g2x also
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Vanilla dual core means support.
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This device will recieve a lot of support because it doesn't have a locked bootloader like the Sensation(not 100% on this yet till the time comes) which is coming out later this year. Plus it's a dual core phone...
Yea it seems lots of devs already said the G2x was their next phone. We already have root, but they are still working on getting the recovery working. Not that I have any lack of faith either, cause the phone just has a different partition table compared to the O2x (which they didn't expect).
I would say that once we get the recovery, roms will start pouring in.
For me Dev support is the deciding factor between the g2x , sgs2, and sensation.
From how it sounds, the g2x seems to have the lead in Dev interest. Are there any rumors of a new nexus which could steal the Dev spotlight?
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For me Dev support is the deciding factor between the g2x , sgs2, and sensation.
From how it sounds, the g2x seems to have the lead in Dev interest. Are there any rumors of a new nexus which could steal the Dev spotlight?
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It seems Samsung has learned the error of their ways with the whole Froyo debacle, they seem to be keeping their promish in reguards to the time frame for updates and such in the future, so the sgs2 might also be a good choice....
Samsung has burned it's bridge with me, I don't intend to go back in the near future unless the jump through a couple hoops...
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I had a Nexus One from launch till 4 months ago and the developer support made me fall in love with Android.
I decided to test out WP7 with the hopes that it would develop into something great; however, I am immensely unsatisfied with the rate of development on this platform.
I would like to come back to Android and this phone is very appealing to my needs.
My question: Will the developer community heavily support this phone like they did with the Nexus One?
My 2 favorite things on Android were Cyanogenmod and Kang-o-rama. I would be incredibly happy if these items were available on this phone.
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I for one am coming to the g2x from my Nexus One for a combination of features (dual core, build quality, etc.) + developer support.
I've been following quite a few threads, etc to try to gauge developer support & it seems like the g2x will have *plenty* of it. I'd probably still be on the fence a bit if it wasn't for this.
As mentioned, I believe Cyanogen is getting a g2x & development has already begun on CM7. Paul Obrien & dj (kang-o-rama) both have Optimus 2X's so we'll hopefully be able to use/leverage their great work for the g2x.
If you had the G1 back in the day (like it was sooo long ago) , I think this is going to take us back close to those days. There will be a lot of support.
Just the fact that it will get CM7 means there well be lots of spin-offs and themes. Then there will be the TW team, Eugene and Barrak, and others and of course P. O'brien and the devs working on the O2.
Definitely if you're a dev on tmo you're gonna get this phone.
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kd78 said:
For me Dev support is the deciding factor between the g2x , sgs2, and sensation.
From how it sounds, the g2x seems to have the lead in Dev interest. Are there any rumors of a new nexus which could steal the Dev spotlight?
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For me, it was the Tegra 2 with Nvidia backing. Samsung and HTC make phones, not games. I can see Nvidia pushing lots of devs over to optimizing games for the chipset.
And I don't know about the Super Amoled Plus but that weird blue hue has put me off of the later screens.
Plus Tegra 2 is noticeably faster then the new Orion in the SGS2 in 3D games.
While the Sensation is a pretty phone, I didn't see anything that peaked my interest.
I hope this question doesn't come across as unappreciative, but I am wondering if there are any patterns when it comes to purchasing a phone with consistent dev support from both the manufacturer and the android community. Do certain brands get released source more quickly than others, or is it luck of the draw? Same goes for dev support. Are there trends in the phones that get the most attention while others are left as an afterthought due to a PITA development process or general disinterest? I am satisfied with my Charge, but I want to know if I can choose more intelligently in future purchases. It seems like the phones with the best hardware are not necessarily the ones with the most support. Any thoughts?
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It seems that the good devs, minus danalo have jumped ship for the newer phones.... kejar just fornier his charge back so maybe we will see something new soon...... hopefully ics
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It seems that the good devs, minus danalo have jumped ship for the newer phones.... kejar just fornier his charge back so maybe we will see something new soon...... hopefully ics
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No. It's just that we've jumped ship on XDA. We're fed up with the noobs and general insolence. Devs are still around if you know where to look.
As to what phone will get the most devs, it's gotta be the Galaxy Nexus.
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No. It's just that we've jumped ship on XDA. We're fed up with the noobs and general insolence. Devs are still around if you know where to look.
As to what phone will get the most devs, it's gotta be the Galaxy Nexus.
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I've checked on other forums and the only thing I've found that isn't here is the infinity ROM which is an example of the Charge being an afterthought and not really the primary focus of a dev team. I didn't know if maybe one brand is more simple to develop.
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I've checked on other forums and the only thing I've found that isn't here is the infinity ROM which is an example of the Charge being an afterthought and not really the primary focus of a dev team. I didn't know if maybe one brand is more simple to develop.
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Howso? Imnuts is extremely active in the Charge community, and Infinity is, in my opinion, the most well developed and mature ROM on this phone. I don't like the occasional hot boots that TSM Parts brings, but no dev has been more committed to this community, nor put in more time on this phone, than imnuts.
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Howso? Imnuts is extremely active in the Charge community, and Infinity is, in my opinion, the most well developed and mature ROM on this phone. I don't like the occasional hot boots that TSM Parts brings, but no dev has been more committed to this community, nor put in more time on this phone, than imnuts.
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You're absolutely correct. Do you have any helpfulness for the OP?
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so I'm not one to bicker but here I go...i haven't seen any statement from any devs on xda or the other site stating we've given up on the charge. Yes there are cooler phones but the charge is still one hot phone I've held the rest and honestly minus the hardware specs this is the hottest phone I've seen. I'm also 260 with brick hands so I like the size. Fact is samsung sucks with support so there is no source since froyo for the devs to play with and here we are on ice cream sandwich..blame.samsung not the devs. Danalo has said flat out hes working..and that is enough for me to back him up and support his work imnuts is still around..plus the other players still hard at work. As for stock support if thats what you meant.good luck there dropping phones every minute at this point so when you get that phone that guarantees support and updates a few weeks later your sol and will be depending on devs and leaks to help you out. I for one will stick with the charge until the apps being made demand more power as of right now I can't see a 5 mb app needing a dual core proc or a quadrant score of 3000..sorry I ramble..lets hope one of these devs loves the phone the way I do and keeps cracking at it for some time to come..and if samsung dissent come through in the next year if ill get my 300 dollars worth when I toss my beloved charge through a 300 pain of glass at samsung central!
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so I'm not one to bicker but here I go...i haven't seen any statement from any devs on xda or the other site stating we've given up on the charge. Yes there are cooler phones but the charge is still one hot phone I've held the rest and honestly minus the hardware specs this is the hottest phone I've seen. I'm also 260 with brick hands so I like the size. Fact is samsung sucks with support so there is no source since froyo for the devs to play with and here we are on ice cream sandwich..blame.samsung not the devs. Danalo has said flat out hes working..and that is enough for me to back him up and support his work imnuts is still around..plus the other players still hard at work. As for stock support if thats what you meant.good luck there dropping phones every minute at this point so when you get that phone that guarantees support and updates a few weeks later your sol and will be depending on devs and leaks to help you out. I for one will stick with the charge until the apps being made demand more power as of right now I can't see a 5 mb app needing a dual core proc or a quadrant score of 3000..sorry I ramble..lets hope one of these devs loves the phone the way I do and keeps cracking at it for some time to come..and if samsung dissent come through in the next year if ill get my 300 dollars worth when I toss my beloved charge through a 300 pain of glass at samsung central!
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I don't know how this got turned around to be viewed as an attack on the remaining charge devs, but I'll assume it's because the general atmosphere around here is one of ignoring the original question and just gleaning a topic to start a debate about. From what you said, apparently Samsung sucks at supporting their phones, which leaves the original question unanswered of "what brand has the best support". Also, yes, the Charge has a few devs. I appreciate their work so I'm not sure why this is the subject every reply argues.
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Generally HTC and Motorola have the best community support, Samsung has always been worse off than them.
And I'm sure that this got turned into an "attack" on the remaining devs because there seems are always people that think they are entitled to something. Doesn't matter what community or what this something may be, there are always people that think something is owed to them. One should always make purchases based on what something can do and not what it could do.
Jason
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Also, since I never answered the original poster, you can best pick a phone that will get support by looking at what phones are currently well supported. There is a reason that those phones are supported, and generally future phones by that company are equally supported. Generally
Jason
HTC has by far the best record updating their phones, followed by Motorola, then Samsung, then LG. I'd guess we'll see a shift to faster updates eventually at Motorola due to their acquisition by Google, but that could take a while.
As far as dev support goes... you really can't predict that. The level of development on this phone is indeed very low, and that's not an attack on the developers -- it's just fact. Many phones have 3, 4, 5+ actively developed ROMs.
I'd say there's one easy prediction, though: that the Galaxy Nexus will get a lot of developer focus. Just look at how active development is for the almost two year old Nexus One. That's obviously in part due to the fact that Nexus handsets will always get the fastest official updates.
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HTC has by far the best record updating their phones, followed by Motorola, then Samsung, then LG. I'd guess we'll see a shift to faster updates eventually at Motorola due to their acquisition by Google, but that could take a while.
As far as dev support goes... you really can't predict that. The level of development on this phone is indeed very low, and that's not an attack on the developers -- it's just fact. Many phones have 3, 4, 5+ actively developed ROMs.
I'd say there's one easy prediction, though: that the Galaxy Nexus will get a lot of developer focus. Just look at how active development is for the almost two year old Nexus One. That's obviously in part due to the fact that Nexus handsets will always get the fastest official updates.
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Thanks kart and falcyn for the responses. This^^^ was exactly the help I was looking for.
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IMHO, if you care to browse (much less post) on a forum any manufacturer updates or support are about as useful as a bicycle is to a fish. As for predicting what the support for one phone model over the other by people who work on their own time, it's about like guessing what the next big stock will be. Sure there's info, but it's really a guess. As said, Nexus looks hottest right now, but who really knows what comes out at CES and jazzes up devs?
I wound up going Charge over Bionic for screen and the way it felt I was a Moto fanboy, but I went with my gut, and I'm happy.
Even stuck with manufacturer support, chances are you'll have a useable year and a half out of any phone if you try out apps in store and are pleased. Might another wind up being better? Sure. Thing is, strike outs and striking gold are both rare. Just actually TRY the phones out and get what YOU like.
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I don't like the occasional hot boots that TSM Parts brings,.
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Not everyone sees this, I have run TSM for months & it hasn't had a hot boot yet.
~John
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Not everyone sees this, I have run TSM for months & it hasn't had a hot boot yet.
~John
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Which should surely cause one soonish now
Jason
hi everyone
i am new to this and always will be.
I have searched the forums but i lack the attention or technical know how to digest the information. On YouTube there are videos that says "how to update any phone t jelly bean" but they all want you to contract to a prepaid service of some kind
When i had my iPhone i found websites where you just download this APP, double clicked it and it updated everything for you
SOMEONE SOMEWHERE must be able to develop a generic app which will update any phone no what size, configuration or OS is on it ... c'mon techies n geeks ya letting us all down
I am looking for something similar ... pls help me
PLS REPLY to me personally and not on the forum ... there's just too much info and threads and i can't make heads or tails of it
Many many thanks
There's no app that will update it for you sorry
Also what kind of phone do you own?
Depending on your phone there may be options to achieve and upgrade to jellybean via ROMs or possibly ota (depending on your phone)
A good step would to be root first as you'll need it to achieve custom ROMs and recovery options
Like I said first state your phone model etc
So we can help
P.s hit the thanks button!
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I didn't want to state my phone as i thought they were APPs out there that can update any phone to jelly bean
but the phone i have is the 5.3" blu studio phone
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There's no app that will update it for you sorry
Also what kind of phone do you own?
Depending on your phone there may be options to achieve and upgrade to jellybean via ROMs or possibly ota (depending on your phone)
A good step would to be root first as you'll need it to achieve custom ROMs and recovery options
Like I said first state your phone model etc
So we can help
P.s hit the thanks button!
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Got a model number to go with that? Also
I'll look into it for you after work see what I can do for you
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You can't update any phone to jellybean, too many devices to create a single solution. You also appear to have a non brand phone which makes the chances of having a jellybean ROM drop down to 4%
And... I doubt a third party app could even update the iPhone... without it being from Apple
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Yea I just searched ya phone it is unbranded
So the chances of a jb upgrade will be slim
In your case very slim but rooting will still be possible for you again I'll keep looking after work to try help you but don't get your hopes up for a jb upgrade
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hey many thanks man
i thought it was like a hard drive, u format it & put the new OS on ... job done
if u do upgrade jelly bean to the blu studio 5.3 then a lot of people will be very interested - the blu studio was quite popular
i'm not rich but i will pay you/contribute ... just give me your paypal name ...
as i said im not techie so i will need proof ...
whiteboi-hakz said:
Yea I just searched ya phone it is unbranded
So the chances of a jb upgrade will be slim
In your case very slim but rooting will still be possible for you again I'll keep looking after work to try help you but don't get your hopes up for a jb upgrade
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hey many thanks man
i thought it was like a hard drive, u format it & put the new OS on ... job done
if u do upgrade jelly bean to the blu studio 5.3 then a lot of people will be very interested - the blu studio was quite popular
i'm not rich but i will pay you/contribute ... just give me your paypal name ...
as i said im not techie so i will need proof ...
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The issue is the drivers, BLU is not a popular brand so the likelihood of a developer taking the time on the port is slim. Not to mention VERY time consuming on a device that has BROAD support. Typically devices like HTC, Samsung, Motorola (the ones that aren't Nand Locked) will receive ports fairly quickly, while obscure devices MAY never get them.
Now on with the specs. The BLU Studio 5.3 features a an ARMv6 CPU, clocked at 650MHz, a PowerVR SGX531 GPU, and 512MB of RAM. There is 200MB of built-in memory
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You may lack hardware support in all honesty, ICS is optimized for dual core devices, though it does run on the HTC EVO 4G (keep in mind that while this is a single core processor it is also a 1 GHz single core, and pretty powerful for a single core device)...If I were in your shoes I would either,
A) Buy a new phone, one that has more community support, if you want Jelly Bean, or
B) Find a bad a$$ Gingerbread ROM for the phone you have.
If a lot of people would be very interested perhaps they can learn to port JB...there are tutorials for the basic port.
Buying a new phone has always been an option for me but ...
there's not many 5inch+ phones out there that has dual sim options
this 5.3" blu motion phone does everything easy to use, great size and large screen for GPS and not to mention cheap as chips
I don't really care about the other bells n whistles i like a phone with a big screen
if someone gave me the iPhone5 i'd put it on eBay in a heart beat ...
... heavens knows why you would want a small phone ...
if anyone knows where i can get a 5inch+ phone with two or more sim slots and with JELLY BEAN
do let me know
ItzCrooK2UxD said:
The issue is the drivers, BLU is not a popular brand so the likelihood of a developer taking the time on the port is slim. Not to mention VERY time consuming on a device that has BROAD support. Typically devices like HTC, Samsung, Motorola (the ones that aren't Nand Locked) will receive ports fairly quickly, while obscure devices MAY never get them.
You may lack hardware support in all honesty, ICS is optimized for dual core devices, though it does run on the HTC EVO 4G (keep in mind that while this is a single core processor it is also a 1 GHz single core, and pretty powerful for a single core device)...If I were in your shoes I would either,
A) Buy a new phone, one that has more community support, if you want Jelly Bean, or
B) Find a bad a$$ Gingerbread ROM for the phone you have.
If a lot of people would be very interested perhaps they can learn to port JB...there are tutorials for the basic port.
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juzdownit said:
hey many thanks man
i thought it was like a hard drive, u format it & put the new OS on ... job done
if u do upgrade jelly bean to the blu studio 5.3 then a lot of people will be very interested - the blu studio was quite popular
i'm not rich but i will pay you/contribute ... just give me your paypal name ...
as i said im not techie so i will need proof ...
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No worrys me and my brother on the case
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I have that phone too.
But I bought it under the name 'Simvalley SPX-5'.
Mine is branded.
So is it possible to get Ice Cream Sandwich?
My brand is: yusu
Found it at 'BuildInfos'.
Hello, Xda-Developers forum
I am new here, but here goes..
Alright, I hate asking about this phone here, but I have the Samsung Focus (1.3), bought it from a friend for $12, So it was a pretty well investment on my part, BUT I'm into messing around with things, and I've recently installed Magldr (2.00) and flashed the Windows 7.8 Phone OS to it, BUT I had a very notorious question about it.
Question # 1)
Is it possible to find a rom, or even make a rom to put Android on this Phone?
Any Android version is fine with me as well. I just want to see what all I can do if I wanted with this phone.
Question # 2)
I can't seem to find very many roms just by googling them for this phone. Does anyone know anywhere I should actually look?
Regards,
Lemonboi5
I found this.. don't know much about WP7 and hacking, had a focus myself at one point but didn't do much with it before I sold it to a friend
http://www.landofdroid.com/2011/sam...ing-magldr-could-this-open-up-more-to-follow/
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Thanks gagdude,
I've seen that page before, but I was wondering if anything has been done with it since haha. I would love to see android on this phone, As the specs would fully back it xD
Hmmm... also found this
http://www.ehow.com/how_12191756_run-android-samsung-focus.html
Not sure if its real or not
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Thanks again,
but yeah It's not actually for samsung focus wp7
It's for Windows Mobile phones
How many phones do you have? Do you buy a separate phone to install custom ROMs?
I have only one and for last few months I am playing with custom ROMs. It is great when you give new life to older phone, like mine. Motorola Defy+ with Quarx custom kernel and CM10 4.1.2. Like new phone. :good:
I just have one, but I change my custom romantic weekly. it's fun
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Just one. Can't afford two lol
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Three, all have custom ROMs. Captivate Glide, Samsung Infuse 4g, and my gs2. The gs2 is all I use right now, the others are laying on the desk. Might sell them.
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I have two...Samsung Infuse and HTC Vivid. As you can see by my signature...i get devices to mess around with and try may hand at developing
(nowhere near a developer yet...but one day )
but i just love android in general...if i could afford it i would get sooooo much more phones lol
Think my signature says it all.
Back from the days of WM it's always been a thought before purchase.
Ignore current device as it's a get thru.
Previous have been s620/Rhodium/Rapael/ZTE Blade/DHD/SGS2/XT910 "there are others"
All of them had been customised and not just via flashing ROMs as back when time was not so valuable my time was taken in Kitchens editing resourses but now minimal I'm happy just to have tether work lol
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Custom ROMs are the best
If I could afford multiple devices, I would buy separate phones for ROMs:laugh:
stylez said:
Think my signature says it all.
Back from the days of WM it's always been a thought before purchase.
Ignore current device as it's a get thru.
Previous have been s620/Rhodium/Rapael/ZTE Blade/DHD/SGS2/XT910 "there are others"
All of them had been customised and not just via flashing ROMs as back when time was not so valuable my time was taken in Kitchens editing resourses but now minimal I'm happy just to have tether work lol
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Wow we have shared alot of the same devices
Now to stay on post. I never buy a phone based on custom roms. Why you ask? Well here is the thing. Developers are always looking for the next big thing and change phones often. No promise that there will be custom roms for it. So I set out to get a phone that will suite my needs. Making sure it has an unlocked boot loader is all I need. If I want a custom rom bad enough then I will make it myself.
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The phones I've got are Sony Xperia S, SGS2 & SE Xperia X8.
Although I only use the X8 now and again when I'm bored and wanna test on it. Apart from that, it doesn't get used
I definitely don't buy a phone based on the custom ROMs available. The Xperia S kinda proves that because there's not too much available for it really.
When buying a phone, it's gotta have whatever I'm specifically looking for at that time. In regards to ROMs I'm not really too fussed because a good phone with a crap ROM is still much better than a crap phone with a brilliant ROM.
"My badboy megazord whip's got more features than iOS5"
yes, because Arc stock ROM has lot of redundant apk
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Wow we have shared alot of the same devices
Now to stay on post. I never buy a phone based on custom roms. Why you ask? Well here is the thing. Developers are always looking for the next big thing and change phones often. No promise that there will be custom roms for it. So I set out to get a phone that will suite my needs. Making sure it has an unlocked boot loader is all I need. If I want a custom rom bad enough then I will make it myself.
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Ez
Keeping it on topic that should have been my answer ya brain pilpher...... :silly:
Sitting in the shadows i see.........
Juz one device...n playing with it n custom roms...grt...
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How many phones do you have? Do you buy a separate phone to install custom ROMs?
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I have three phones. Iphone 3g, Gamsung galaxy sII and huawei u8836d dual sim. For the two android phones i use custom roms ( due to : root , titanium backup, tweaked kernel etc..)
yup
one phone.........surely for custom roms:good:
hope many at xda use it for the same:laugh: