i set up my device with everything , set up application make installations , played with wifi and installed games tried games with no interuption,
and i noticed as i was playing a game after an hour or so that the device was getting crazy hot ...
i removed backplate and touched the metal where the sim card was in ... even hotter !!!
is it the same for you ? does it really get that hot ???
(i noticed that and i brought the phone back, couse when it was hot i get foce close and sound was gone, had to wait to cool down or restart the phone to get sound back. so i hope my second phone will arrive today)
Mine gets really hot at times too, I noticed it the other day when chatting on Facebook.
Someone else mentioned that it was due to the app constantly trying to update itself, but I've now installed a temperature app so I can get some details and actually ask HTC direct about it, although it's looking like this phone will have to go back at some point...
-Just so I can keep a record, it's been idling all morning bar an email or two and it's at 26.5 degrees at the moment. Nice and cool.
you will bring the phone back to get a new one too??
I haven't sent it back yet, but then that's because it's only happened once and I want to try to get some details to present to HTC so I can get their word on it.
i askted htc on it ...
they just say .... we understand that youre disappointed ... try these solutions to get rid of the problems you have. 1. make a soft reset 2. meke a hardreset !!
if this doesnt help send the phone back to us to get a new one
thats it
Don't worry about it, it's exactly the same for the Galaxy SII. These dual core CPUs are designed to run hot, they have to be with the limited space available and almost nothing in the way of heat dissipation. The Galaxy SII shuts itself off as a safety measure if it thinks it will be damaged by the heat (never happened to me though) and I'm sure the Sensation has a similar safety mechanism.
Just over a week ago I saw three used Docomo HTC HT-01a phones (Raphael 100) for sale in a used electronics shop for 2000 yen. That's about $20. I've been successful in getting Linux and Android to run on all sorts of things so I thought I would see what I could do with one.
Luckily for me there was already a rom in development.
The first thing I had to do was flash the bootloader. That was pretty easy using the ActiveSync software. Then I downloaded the Windows Mobile 6.1 English Rom from HTC. I tried out a few other custom roms but really the one from HTC was the best I just needed English instead of Japanese.
The new Rom was able to connect to Docomo and everything set up nicely.
Then I came back to XDA to get Android roms.
I tried 2.1 first and it didn't work so well. If the phone fell asleep it would not wake back up. If I tried to make a call the call would only last for about 30 seconds until the phone would quit on me. On top of that I would actually have to take the battery out to reboot the phone. Also, if I plugged in the charger the phone would be fine, but if I unplugged the charger it would crash.
Then I tried the FRX06 and it was much better but not that much. The phone could do some things and I could actually make a call. I set up Skype and Sipdroid to turn the phone into a wifi house phone for my son and things seemed ok. But it required care, a lot of care. I basically had to look after the phone. If I didn't use App Killer and do something with the phone about every 20 minutes then it would crash.
A couple of days ago I put in the FRX07 and this is a huge improvement. The phone can now basically last all day and won't crash. It still needs to be plugged in frequently but I guess thems the breaks. Skype and Sipdroid both work well but they seem to work best if only one is running at the same time. Also the official Skype from the market is broken so I went to Freewarelovers to get the old skype and it works fine. Don't use anything after 1.0.0.84. All the 2.0's are broken.
Anyway, FRX07 really seems to be a winner. I went one whole day using only this as my main phone and it gave me no problems besides wanting lots of energy. I didn't have to reboot or fall back to WM 6.1 for anything. I did have to be patient when looking up a few things on the internet or using the new app but it was still faster then WM would have been. I did find that it functioned better if I turned off animations and streamlined the homescreen.
Now I just wish that I could replace WM completely with Android or at least install android onto the internal memory and have the full use of the SD card. I seems like there is enough memory for that but I may be wrong.
Also, it looks like the screen turns off when I hit the power button, but I think the OS still thinks its on. It still gets hot and uses more power than it should. I don't know exactly what's going on there. I'm more of a hardware guy than a software guy so I noticed. It isn't a big deal but that might be where the battery is going.
Anyway, thanks to the new rom I now have a $20 wifi phone for my house and a second phone in case my Xperia X10 ever dies on me.
Thanks a bunch to the developers.
Have you tried Gingerbread alpha yet? The panel collapse code is still being worked on; the system just turn the display to "0" instead of "off". Will require a devs expertise to get this working. At any rate, there is more in the TP android threads and it seems arrrghhh is quite the tester and occasional team player from time to time. Can't blame him for being upset at the noobs as well as me sometimes. There are still some issues for our device that are still being worked out and others that are being looked over. Glad you got around to checking FRX07 out and that it works for you. Some haven't had that luxury yet and others are still lost in the abyss. Give it a once over if you'd like to get a preview of gingerbread on your device! It would be recommended to make a backup of your microSD IF you have a good configuration.
Thanks. I'll check out the 2.3 when I get a chance. So far the most use the phone gets is when my son watches Thomas the Tank Engine videos or plays a Thomas game. He's almost four but has already figured out how to do that!
Hello, Im hoping I can find someone who can help. I am into a Atrix for about 2 months now, It started off great and has turned into a nightmare. I am not getting any real help on Moto's Forum, actually Im getting Jacked around.
The Phone has started to lag badly, it loses touch abilities on the display it freezes or quits working, Apps are dissapearing, Moto says take it off the SD Card, the phone is acting like a Moto POS.
Moto is tight lipped about any patches or fixes, the Camera sucks it takes horrible pictures, and I cant get anywher with them or AT&T
What about ICS or Android 4, does anyone know the likelyhood hat Atrix 2 will get it and when if so.?
Someone said, trash the A2 get a Nexus LTE your troublles will be over, is that true? Why not just put ICS on the A2, it got a beautiful display
I hope some one can guide me with this mess, Motorola Is ot interested in helping people wit A2's, their busy with the Putzonic and Wayzor Droiddie, they forgot about us little fish.
What have you done to your A2 so far? There is also a sticky about ICS so yeah until ICS pushed to other phones you wouldn't hear anything. A2 is actually not a little fish ^_^ but yeah back to the question. What have you done to your A2? rooted? any adb push? I had disappearing apps to but realized I froze them lol well yeah an Indepth detail of the problem would help. this post sounds like a rant to me ^_^v
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The Phone has started to lag badly, it loses touch abilities on the display it freezes or quits working,
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I got my A2 Nov 11 and have had 2 freezes. Nothing a battery pull couldn't revive though.
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Apps are dissapearing, Moto says take it off the SD Card, the phone is acting like a Moto POS.
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Several threads(not just on these forums) about apps disappearing if they are stored on the SD card. If you are putting your apps on the SD card, have you tried moving them to internal storage?
To clear up some of the questions: The Atrix2 I have is absolutely Motorola Stock, I have some 15 apps on it, no games,. No Root, No Nothing.
I went to load XDA on the Phone, it started to load, gave me the first page, and I tried to scroll down to a different page, it moved about a 1/2 page and got "Stuck" stayed that way for about 2 minutes and then began to operate normal.
Whats the big deal about saying the Phone will get ICS? Understandable it takes time to get it all prepared, but say something. They (Motorola User Forum) are blowing the A2 off on the Forum, Nothing has been said about patches or fixes, the phone isnt even listed on the Motorola Update Page- (MB865)
They finally acknowledged there is a issue with the SD Card and suggested we move all Apps off the SD Card- I did so, but there has been no dialog as to whats wrong and when a fix can be expected. Im tired of "Toilet Bowl Excuses" given from Motorola, and their Techs are a absolute Joke, their better equipped to pick Bananas from Coconut Trees,(Everything goes to the Phillipines) than offer solutions of help for the Atrix2.
I have no experience with rooting or such, and if you mention XDA "Anything" on the forum, youll get threats of "Banned from Forum" (A Bunch of BS), also honestly, I really dont want to lose my warranty, and they (Motorola) have made it very clear that if you Mod the Phone in any way, (Including AT&T) you will violate the warranty. I really dont want to lose the warranty on the phone.
As stated earlier make sure you have no apps on the SD card if you don't have any on it and are still having problems you might have a corrupted card. Try reformatting your SD card. As far as warranty goes AT&T warranty is jack now and you have a one year manufacturer warranty anyways. Also try a couple of battery pulls. I know it may sound crazy but sometimes they help. Do a search here if there have been problems we have narrowed a lot of them down and had some pretty good success helping others out as well.
Thank you, I have done that already, and the apps stopped "Dissapearing", I guess along with the myriad of other issues as well, and the lousey camera results, my real issue is, When and How does this all get fixed, patched or whatever.
I received a PM from a Experienced Forum User, who stated, that, "ICS Android 4.0 will cure all these problems" The Problem is, No One is saying anything at all. I understand that it takes alot of work and preparation to put a New OS like Android 4.0 on a phone like the Atrix 2, however, saying nothing and doing nothing, doesnt help at all.
I see no harm in a statement alluding to the fact, that Motorola is Acknowledging the Problems (Hypothetically)... and rather than waste resouces trying to fix these issues, with patches, they are trying to ready Android 4.0 for the A2- which will cure most if not all the issues.
I dont think thats a unreasonable expectation. I paid for a Fully Operational Smartphone, not a "Broken" smartphone, that partly works. (Not trying to be arrogant)
Camera FX zoom from the market will help the camera out a lot. I have seen a lot of people return their phones due to the problems the A2 is having and if I was having the problems as well I'm sure I would've been pissed as well. But fortunately I havnt had a lot if them. Yes the tight lips from motorola can be disappointing and discerning but NONE of the manufacturers have slated a timeframe at which their phones would be upgraded. They have only listed devices on the upgrade path. Will the A2 get ICS, I think so but the truth is no one knows right now. But with all that said AT&T has been better then any service provider at getting the updates to their phones then any other out there . Really we are just playing a waiting game as us everyone else. Hopefully you can get all your problem's solved as I'm sure you are frustrated.
I am very APPRECIATIVE to you for your help, Do you know what the "Red Cross" is, (Like on the Ambulance or Helicopters from Mash) ? Let me explain....
When I Power Cycle the Phone, when it initially starts to reload everything, there is a Icon that will show itself momentarily, its a Square Gray box, next to the Battery Icon with a Thick Red Cross in it. Usually uou get a small red ciircle with a slash in it.
I posted on the Forum, but no one was able to give a clear answer including the manager. The Moment you menntion XDA, the Dogs of War come out, (The Volunteer Moderators) and threaten you with Hanging you until you stop wiggling!
A normal person would welcome any sound help and solutions, as the bottom line is a Happy Customer... In my book you folks run circles around the Moto Forum. Why are they so afraid of you folks.? If anything, XDA poses a great help to their customers.
In response to your last post, I agree with you, but I also feel in earnest based on whats recently occured from all the other Manufacturers, the least they could say at this point is, the Atrix 2 will get ICS 4.0. There is also a horrible issue with "dropping of the Data Connection" that is absolutely terrible. when switching from Wifi to Network. You have Blue, white, white, Wifi, 4G, Network signal icons.... If im in the house and switch from Phone idle to email or Plume, it becomes white, white, white, and slowly will swith to Blue, Blue, Blue, and then white, Blue, Blue ( The Icons ). it is a problem also with Hotspots, it will fail to log in, yet on Power cycle, it will log in to Hotspot without a problem. The error is, Cannot determine eligibility for hotspots, please call customer service-
Thank you and Happy Holidays to you, family and all on XDA!
I can def help you on the grey box with the red cross in it. I see this a lot when I'm at work as well due to the buildings I'm in and out of . Once I'm out if the building though reception comes right back. Sounds to me like you are in an area with poor cell service. As far as locking in though my phone does search sometimes when I'm around my house as well but I live in a very rural area. We've just recently gotten 3G in my area. So I've been really happy with the boost in speeds. Hope this helps some and you have a Happy Holidays as well!
2 important steps for a badly behaving phone
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I am very APPRECIATIVE to you for your help, Do you know what the "Red Cross" is, (Like on the Ambulance or Helicopters from Mash) ? Let me explain....
When I Power Cycle the Phone, when it initially starts to reload everything, there is a Icon that will show itself momentarily, its a Square Gray box, next to the Battery Icon with a Thick Red Cross in it. Usually uou get a small red ciircle with a slash in it.
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Thank you and Happy Holidays to you, family and all on XDA!
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This hasn't been brought up yet, and I feel these two steps are very important especially on a new phone with very little done to it. If you cannot nail down misbehavior to any app you have recently installed, then I would:
1. do a factory reset (settings -> privacy setttings -> factory data reset). This will restore your phone (but not your SD card unless you check that box) to whatever the rescue image on your phone provides. It should be the same as what was shipped on the phone, though there are those who believe the system shipped with the phone is not trustworthy and they *always* do a factory reset on a new phone before using it.
2. return the phone to an ATT store and describe the problems and the factory reset. If a factory reset doesn't fix it, nothing will. If they won't swap out the phone for you, then call customer service and ask for a warranty replacement. Android phones are full of sample defects (individual devices that have problems) that you shouldn't even attempt to accommodate.
the red cross thing right next to the battery bar is normal it just means it hasn't found a signal yet to connect to. This happens every time you reboot a phone in a low signal area.
Call your ATT rep make sure that on their end that your phone is configured for 4G because they had mine configured for 2g for some odd reason.
I believe the blue icon means its active connection while white means its not active. I rarely use my data plan but my wifi icon turns blue when im using it then it turns white to gray when im not using it.
About hot spots no idea on that one ^_^ never used it and will never use it. People can eavesdrop on those connections
Hello all. I have HTC Surround from AT&T with updated 8107 firmware. I have spoted some strage bug (i don't know how else i could call it) and wanted to ask if thisone is possible and if i do think right. So i have this phone for about half a year and i'm pleased with it, nothing happened to it until now. Last week i was typing an SMS message and suddenly it just froze. I tried to restart it but the phone got stuck in the white HTC screen. My firmware then was 7720. I have done the hard reset and everything seemed to be ok but today the same thing happened with updated version too. I thought a bit and remembered that both times my phone was lying on top or near by wireless microphone receiver which was in working state. So can it be possible that some sord of electromagnetic waves is causing my phone to do this? Or it's just a coincidence?
as i'm a developer i didn't this it's a bug ithink it's accidentaly and you were at that place again like other time
But that's quite too big to be jusn an accident. I had this phone for half a year and nothing. Well i'll try this Friday not to put it on top of the receiver and will post what happened. This thing scared my quite big, i thought that mmc is broken but i have checked the bootloader (i don't know how the screen with 4 colors is called, i think it's bootloader) and it showed my mmc working perfectly. If it was not because of microphones what could then be the problem?
OK tried that this Friday too. Same think - phone near the receiver - phone dies and i must hard reset it to work again. How is this possible? Which part of the phone messes?
Very possible that a strong magnet could do this. Internally the surround uses a microsd (there are guides here for upgrading it but taking the phone apart). I imagine a strong enough field could corrupt a microsd pretty easily. When u say wireless mic do you mean bluetooth?
No no no, i mean microphones which are used on stages, i work as a sound engineer and my phone always is close to receivers, close to controlers and other stuf i use. So to avoid further coruptions i should put my phone further from all equipment right?
OK after this other few tries i have found out that it does indeed mess my phone, i have tried holding it near wireless microphone receiver and my phone have frozen and when i placed my phone further from receiver nothing happened. So look out for that
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Hello all. I have HTC Surround from AT&T with updated 8107 firmware. I have spoted some strage bug (i don't know how else i could call it) and wanted to ask if thisone is possible and if i do think right. So i have this phone for about half a year and i'm pleased with it, nothing happened to it until now. Last week i was typing an SMS message and suddenly it just froze. I tried to restart it but the phone got stuck in the white HTC screen. My firmware then was 7720. I have done the hard reset and everything seemed to be ok but today the same thing happened with updated version too. I thought a bit and remembered that both times my phone was lying on top or near by wireless microphone receiver which was in working state. So can it be possible that some sord of electromagnetic waves is causing my phone to do this? Or it's just a coincidence?
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Is frozen screen? Still completely can't use? I feel a little bit like WM6 era's problems. After a certain amount to you. May is hardware have dark disease.
I posted this almost verbatim to my G+ stream. It says it all, basically, and I don't have time (at work right now) to give a lot of detail but I wanted to get this out there...
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I received three text messages this morning at 7:25 EDT.
They appeared to be random characters, like when an OS is trying to display characters from a language that requires a codepage it doesn't have installed. They are as follows:
<sisa:68571244:1:1:199:41970681>ezG7k3jzC7mFo6SSm7KUIg
<sisa:65471246:1:1:199:43800551>HE85MqRY33Xf0qmVbaCjyQ
<sisa:65471245:1:1:199:43799818>SpxSbHILo1mHG/EjkMAF2g
All three received at 7:25. I was able to use my phone up to this point because I was able to view the messages normally. Now, suddenly I have no digitizer response. None whatsoever. To use my phone, I have to pull the battery and boot to safe mode then use my trackpad and menu buttons to access certain features.
Now, it seems to me, the first part is like an address packet, maybe including a sequence number. The second part is like what I see when e.g. viewing the output of 'cat somefile.binary' in Linux. At first I thought it was spam from a foreign country, but now I'm wondering if this was some binary code received and interpreted by my phone. I wonder if this is possibly an android virus/remote hack? Is that possible?
I may wind up wiping the phone when I get home and have ability to back stuff up, but this is annoying, to say the very least.
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Now, I did a little googling and it appears that it may just be that T-Mobile was trying to send an update to the phone (maybe the fact I'm on a custom ROM is why it borked). But has anyone had this or anything like it happen to them?
Thanks much in advance,
CJ
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It appears the digitizer fouling *may* have been a coincidence. Very odd how coincidences seem to keep happening to my electronics. Anyway, I'm about to wipe and reflash, see if it persists. If it was a software bork, it should be 100% resolved with a reflash. If hardware, it'll still be borky.
It is now intermittent, and I tapped the screen pretty firmly a bit ago and it started working almost reliably again. Sounds like a loose connection. Very odd coincidence.
Will update when decided for sure the cause.
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It appears the digitizer fouling *may* have been a coincidence. Very odd how coincidences seem to keep happening to my electronics. Anyway, I'm about to wipe and reflash, see if it persists. If it was a software bork, it should be 100% resolved with a reflash. If hardware, it'll still be borky.
It is now intermittent, and I tapped the screen pretty firmly a bit ago and it started working almost reliably again. Sounds like a loose connection. Very odd coincidence.
Will update when decided for sure the cause.
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My evo **** needs a good smack every now and then when the kb gets opened because it has a bad flex cable. since I'm not with sprint and only test roms on that phone I don't need the kb anymore but sometimes the little one opens it
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Yep, I'm not so lucky. I need the touchscreen more than the keyboard
Still, was on the phone for 45 minutes today talking with two different reps, and my replacement phone (another MT4GS in Khaki) is scheduled to arrive in three days.
Time to see if I can return it to stock. It's a hardware problem, so what ROM is on it shouldn't matter, but I don't want to give them any reason to balk.