I just flashed the new Avatar Rom and after playing aroung with it for a while decided to go back to Embryo 6.2 which i did from a backup. Is it as clean when you install from a backup as it is doing a complete wipe and starting from scratch. Just curious.
restoring a backup puts the phone to pretty much whatever state u had it in, so if it was a dd running well, that's what u get.
I personally don't use ROM backups, and when I switch ROMs its to switch DD's, just my two cents
Thanks, it might be my imagination but when i installed the backup it seems a little slower than before. It may be my imagination. I guess I will let it run for another day before I start from scratch.
I found that my results differed when I did a full wipe before restoring (better) and when I restored without doing so (worse).
Others have reported different results though.
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Right now I've got 6 back ups of different ROMs, including a stock ROM. This seems somewhat high to me, but perhaps you guys keep more?
I use to backup every time before I flashed a ROM, and probably had a stockpile of like 4-5 backups. Then I realized those backups are worthless to me. Titanium Backup makes a backup of my apps and all other data is synced to some other system in one form or another.
The only reason I was making backups was because I thought I might need to revert back to one in the case of a bad flash. In reality, if I have a bad flash...the first thing I'm going to do is use Odin to restore to JF6 and try the flash again, NOT restore my Nandroid backup.
Once I had that realization, I saved quite a bit of time in my ROM flashing "procedures" since I didn't have to wait for a Nandroid backup to complete, and then move it off the phone to a desktop.
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I think the nandriod backup is mostly best used for phones like the evo. With us, we have roms and builds and kernals and modems from galaxy s devices all over the world. Sometimes clockwork doesn't save all that to the backup, so going stock is the best thing to do before reverting back.
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I've just come to that realization after a bad flash with Axura. The ROM is great, but I tried Nandroiding and doing CWM recovery and neither time did my back up work. This has happened before and I'm sure as hell glad I bought Titanium Backup. I don't regret that one bit; same goes for ROM Manager Premium.
I back up the last 3 I used .....but save some apks from earlier ROMS. I used to have all of them but there is no point in having earlier Beta ROMS that were flashed months ago and since improved. They are ususally available online anyway.
This doesntl count the original Stock ROM and 1 click Odin.....Always need that one
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^ what he said
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I think the nandriod backup is mostly best used for phones like the evo. With us, we have roms and builds and kernals and modems from galaxy s devices all over the world. Sometimes clockwork doesn't save all that to the backup, so going stock is the best thing to do before reverting back.
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^^this^^
So I can't answer that poll because there is no zero option. I've never had a nandroid backup work.
So my stock Infuse 4G is now Infused 2.1 and I LOVE it. So happy with the change. With that said, what is the number one BEST option to backup the phone in case I do anything stupid? I'm usually very thorough but sometimes I act too quickly.
I'm assuming booting in Recovery and doing the backup there is a good step, is there anything better? Never used Titanium but I see it mentioned a good deal but it seems that you can use it for some things yet not others. I just want a verified safe and secure method.
Also, another question if I may. Since I didn't do any type of backup to begin with, is it safe to assume I can't get back to Froyo at this point? Not that I really want to but I'd like to know either way.
Thanks!
Kadin said:
So my stock Infuse 4G is now Infused 2.1 and I LOVE it. So happy with the change. With that said, what is the number one BEST option to backup the phone in case I do anything stupid? I'm usually very thorough but sometimes I act too quickly.
I'm assuming booting in Recovery and doing the backup there is a good step, is there anything better? Never used Titanium but I see it mentioned a good deal but it seems that you can use it for some things yet not others. I just want a verified safe and secure method.
Also, another question if I may. Since I didn't do any type of backup to begin with, is it safe to assume I can't get back to Froyo at this point? Not that I really want to but I'd like to know either way.
Thanks!
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You can get back to Froyo but not without wiping your data.
Nandroid backups (from Recovery) can restore your phone to an EXACT state - apps, data, and ROM.
TiBu is fairly flexible and, for example, can take all of your installed apps, back them up along with their data, and restore the missing apps when you switch ROMs. (Be EXTREMELY careful restoring system data or data for non-missing apps - 90% of the time it will break.)
I use Call Logs Backup and Restore and SMS Backup and Restore to back up what TiBu can't
Ok so if I simply want to make one big global backup, the Nandroid backup is a good way to go? I'm not too concerned with backing up stuff individually, more of a 'once a month' type of backup so if something disastrous happens, I can get back to a working state.
Also, if I were to do something that maybe caused a boot loop or some other type of bricked scenario, what is the process for restoring the backup? As in, how do you get back into the Recovery option if you can't boot into the OS to begin with?
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Ok so if I simply want to make one big global backup, the Nandroid backup is a good way to go? I'm not too concerned with backing up stuff individually, more of a 'once a month' type of backup so if something disastrous happens, I can get back to a working state.
Also, if I were to do something that maybe caused a boot loop or some other type of bricked scenario, what is the process for restoring the backup? As in, how do you get back into the Recovery option if you can't boot into the OS to begin with?
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For that, you have the Ultimate brick solution though I've never had the need to try it.
I've been switching roms quite a bit lately. For each and everytime I :
(1) Do a Tibu backup of all system and apps
(2) Do a Nandroid backup (either from red cwm or from ROM mgr)
The Tibu is the logical backup while the Nandroid is the physical image backup.
So far, I've gone to Serendipity (too many issues) back to my trusted 1.6 without much effort. The Nandroid restore is initially not 100%, some of my shortcuts like gosms and my unlocker setup was messed up. But then I'll go into Tibu, check to see what apps are missing and just restore those. In my case, after restoring gosms and reboot, all is good. I think the apps that have a system equivalent, will need to be restored individually.
However, that said, I haven't been too successful with Tibu on restoring *all* apps installed under Froyo (Infused 1.6) to GB (S7). This is even with the pro's automated method. This is likely so because those apps don't work well with GB and nothing to do with Tibu.
I've been using Titanium Backup for over a year. Third different phone, and maybe 30 different ROM's. I've never had a problem what so ever. Just remember rule #1, when switching ROM's with TitBU... restore "missing apps and data" ONLY! And you'll be fine.
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I've been using Titanium Backup for over a year. Third different phone, and maybe 30 different ROM's. I've never had a problem what so ever. Just remember rule #1, when switching ROM's with TitBU... restore "missing apps and data" ONLY! And you'll be fine.
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I second this. Moved between multiple phones, and hard-to-count number of roms, and TiBu was always there to help me out
So right now I'm using CWM to do my nandroid backups. I make one after I make any major updates or changes - call me a worry wort. I also use Titanium Backup.
With doing this, obviously it takes up a bit of room so I offload them to my computer. The issue here is if I do something detrimental and need to restore, I don't know of a way to get the backup files back onto the internal memory since you can't access them via CWM, if that makes sense.
I guess I can simply keep just the latest backup saved on the phone itself but I'm wondering if there's another method that I'm not aware of. Is there a way to get files copied to the internal memory if you can't fully boot into the OS?
Oh and one other question: Does a nandroid backup include every single item? Basically is it a 100% clone of the device or are some thing left out? Basically if I tried a completely different rom and then decided to go back to an entirely different rom, would I simply be able to restore it and be up and running? The last restore I did seems to indicate it does but that was going from different versions of the same rom.
nandroid is a clone of ur system.
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nandroid is a clone of ur system.
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Ok that's what I figured; read something a bit ago which seemed to say something else.
So if I want to test a few completely different rom setups and make a nandroid backup of each one, I could essentially swap between them whenever I want by simply restoring them and I'll get back to the exact state as I was at the time they were made? Menus and all?
So apparently a kernel change will not get reverted via nandroid. Anything else? Just tried Entropy's daily driver and apparently it's a no go for me. Restored via nandroid and still freezes during 'X' boot animation.
I was running Infusion 1.1 and made sure to reset the VC O/C back to stock and reboot before updating...
Hello,
My girlfriend and I both have a Nexus S 9020a. Both are rooted, both are running SlimBean but with different radios and different kernels.
Her phone is starting to act up a bit, and since I did a fresh wipe recently I'm in a position where I can create a fresh Nandroid backup with all of the apps we both use. (Swiftkey, Nova Launcher, etc). If I create this backup through the recovery console, can she use it to restore her phone and essentially make a duplicate of mine?
Failing that, what's the Android equivalent of reformatting to freshen up her Android without reflashing a different rom? Clear Cache+Dalvik?
I think you would get an.MD5 mismatch with CWM and would not be able to restore. With TWRP you have the option to skip MD5 check but restoring on our phones with TWRP is kinda bugy and for me does not restore any data. Does that sound right forum? I would just take the extra few min and wipe/restore traditionaly with hers.
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You could also restore data only from her phone using cwm. It's under advanced restore in the backup and restore menu.
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Restoring from another phone is not a good idea. Will lead to many device specific issues. Just take the time, do a complete wipe. and she will love you for it.
Many thanks for the replies, guys. I did end up doing a clean wipe and starting her off from scratch. She's very happy with it.
BTW, both of us are now running the latest version of SlimBean with Bedalus Marmite V5 kernel, and are enjoying some absolutely amazing battery life. Very good stuff. Highly recommended for the aging Nexus S.
This might sound like a dumb question but since I installed my first ever custom rom the other day I don't know. Am I going to have to reinstall all my apps and reset up the whole phone with every new rom I try. Then say I find one that I like and decide to go back to it will that be the case. I plan on doing nandriod backups of each setup that I try.
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With each new ROM you try, a full wipe is required. So yes, you would have to set up your phone each time. With a nandroid backup of each setup then you wouldn't have to go thru the whole process so long as you wiped before restoring.
Correct me if I am wrong, anyone.
It is best to wipe when you flash a new Rom...as stated above,but using something like Titanium Backup lets you back and restore your apps fairly quickly. I have about 80 apks I back up and restore ever time I flash a new Rom and I have it down to about 5 min from fresh install to my old setup. Also,if you use a custom launcher,a backup there will quickly restore your home screen to your desired setup.
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