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Call recording on I897 Captivate

Hey
Saw this thread over on the I9000 forums http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863074
Interesting discussion there... I'm wondering if we can use the libs and apk given at the end of the OP:
Update:
Thanks to titooo7 et.al. call recording is now working using the libs and phone*.apks from the i9088.
http://db.tt/q0sfueP
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I know we use modems from the i9088, although I'm sure the phone.apk is a different matter... anyone know if we can use these libraries on the Captivate?
Thanks
Edit : this worked for me, see my third post for details

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IT WORKS Ultimate rom
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m7ia said:
Hey
Saw this thread over on the I9000 forums http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863074
Interesting discussion there... I'm wondering if we can use the libs and apk given at the end of the OP:
I know we use modems from the i9088, although I'm sure the phone.apk is a different matter... anyone know if we can use these libraries on the Captivate?
Thanks
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Tried the libs and apks on Andromeda+SuckerPunch. I got stuck at the boot animation with repeating vibrations.

Cezar's Continuum and Di11ligaf's 5.4 stripped are a couple roms off of the top of my head that have this feature already implemented. You simply push record while in-call and it saves a sound file to sdcard\sounds\

You need to use speedmod kernel for it to work.
I do not know if other i9000 converted kernels will work but captivate kernels will not.

Isnt recording phone calls illegal in most states?

BCR1299 said:
Isnt recording phone calls illegal in most states?
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In some states yes it is unless both parties know it is being recorded. Thats why we always hear that bloody "This call is being recorded for training blah blah" Not to mention that any call recorded without the other knowing is not admissible in court and if found out about can lead to legal issues. Have not used it myself in a very long time, not sense letting lawyer buddy of mine use my phone and he found my recordings by mistake.

tjsooley said:
You need to use speedmod kernel for it to work.
I do not know if other i9000 converted kernels will work but captivate kernels will not.
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Will suckerpunch work? Since it's based off speedmod.

Thanks for the info silverslotcar. Hmm, I'm running Serendipity 4.3 right now with SuckerPunch #30 and I'm happy with the combination so I don't really want to switch ROMs right now. tjsooley, you said that i9000 kernels will work, but opcow tried it with Andromeda (i9010 based) and suckerpunch (speedmod-mod so i9000 based), shouldn't that have worked?'
I guess I'll nandroid this and give it a try anyway.
Thanks! Keep reporting results

m7ia said:
Thanks for the info silverslotcar. Hmm, I'm running Serendipity 4.3 right now with SuckerPunch #30 and I'm happy with the combination so I don't really want to switch ROMs right now. tjsooley, you said that i9000 kernels will work, but opcow tried it with Andromeda (i9010 based) and suckerpunch (speedmod-mod so i9000 based), shouldn't that have worked?'
I guess I'll nandroid this and give it a try anyway.
Thanks! Keep reporting results
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Let us know if it works!

Okay, just tried it. I backed up the two apks in /system/app and the three libs in /system/lib, flashed the zip linked in the OP using CWM, and rebooted. No FC's, phone booted fine, I tested it on one two-minute phone call and it seems to have worked perfectly!
My config: Serendipity 4.3, SuckerPunch #30, KP1 baseband (i9088).
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has anyone been able to get this running on andromeda??

Confirmed working on di11igaf's 5.4.

http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states.html
There is a basic summary of the call recording rules. Personally for me (even though it is illegal in IL) I will still use call recording on a case by case basis. For instance if someone is telling me instructions on how to do something I doubt I would need that evidence in a court of law (in which case it would be dismissed) or have them press charges.

nbs11 said:
http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states.html
There is a basic summary of the call recording rules. Personally for me (even though it is illegal in IL) I will still use call recording on a case by case basis. For instance if someone is telling me instructions on how to do something I doubt I would need that evidence in a court of law (in which case it would be dismissed) or have them press charges.
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does this imply that it will be supported in andromeda? (if it works?)
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tried it on andromeda 1.0
phone goes into a boot loop and keeps annoyingly vibrating...
luckily i had all 5 files backed up so i restored the them and everything works fine now
now that we've established the fact that this doesn't work in its current status... i think it would be cool if there was a way to get this done..

aehlayel said:
does this imply that it will be supported in andromeda? (if it works?)
edit:
tried it on andromeda 1.0
phone goes into a boot loop and keeps annoyingly vibrating...
luckily i had all 5 files backed up so i restored the them and everything works fine now
now that we've established the fact that this doesn't work in its current status... i think it would be cool if there was a way to get this done..
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I do not believe that we will be implementing this in Andromeda because of the largely illegal nature of call recording in the United States (purely for liability reasons). However you are free to install it yourself so long as you are aware of the legality of call recording in your respective jurisdiction. That being said we don't want to be liable for including it in the ROM.

recording calls is awesome. prank night, every night for me.

Any idea if this will work with Perception 10.1? If not, I might have to try it out and report.

nbs11 said:
I do not believe that we will be implementing this in Andromeda because of the largely illegal nature of call recording in the United States (purely for liability reasons). However you are free to install it yourself so long as you are aware of the legality of call recording in your respective jurisdiction. That being said we don't want to be liable for including it in the ROM.
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Thanks for the clarification.
As mentioned, I tried installing as is - didn't seem to like it... any thoughts on how to get it to work?
Thanks,

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we need a sound fix

Other than the stock rom most of these other roms have very tinny audio when on calls. I have noticed that the sound through the headphone jack in my car sounds ok.
I am asking the devs on here to please take a close look at this for the community.
Running cm7 with oc kernel

Amen. Praisethe10chars

I am getting frustrated beyond belief with the Inspire. I am about ready to put everything back to stock and return it.
I am running CM7, it runs great, but I can not stand the tinny call quality. I have flashed different radios, and still nothing.
Very frustrated.

I'll guess I'll hold off for now. Using a phone for work with little to no sound doesn't sound like to much fun.

I am still running stock and the sound is fine... so basically the problems are all related to shoehorned kernels. Wait till source is released in a few weeks and I am sure the problems will be resolved.
Sent from my Inspire '4g'.

The source may not be released in just a few weeks...it could take quite longer, maybe up to 90 days. :/
Sent from my Inspire 4G.

Stock but rooted? I thought that left no sound

hololight said:
I am still running stock and the sound is fine... so basically the problems are all related to shoehorned kernels. Wait till source is released in a few weeks and I am sure the problems will be resolved.
Sent from my Inspire '4g'.
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slapdaddy said:
The source may not be released in just a few weeks...it could take quite longer, maybe up to 90 days. :/
Sent from my Inspire 4G.
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The kernel source was released yesterday by HTC, that is why you are seeing different kernels and ROMs in this forum now. I'm sure the devs are looking at this long and hard for a solution.

Ok I need more explaination on the "tiny" sound issue. Is it a volume level issue or something else. I'm familiar with fixing kernel sound issues on the captivate i can take a look at source to see what I can find but I need a better description of the issue. I'm currently still running stock do to the fact that i'm enjoying sense and haven't had the time to do the root process yet(so no sound issue for me), but I can still rummage through source and see what I can come up with.

It's almost a hollow sound for me. And I get echo of what I say through the earpiece from time to time.

chrisryn said:
Ok I need more explaination on the "tiny" sound issue. Is it a volume level issue or something else. I'm familiar with fixing kernel sound issues on the captivate i can take a look at source to see what I can find but I need a better description of the issue. I'm currently still running stock do to the fact that i'm enjoying sense and haven't had the time to do the root process yet(so no sound issue for me), but I can still rummage through source and see what I can come up with.
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Think of a combination of a low-frequency 1980's cordless phone combined with the calling experience through skype\google voice over 3G. It's a highly digitized sounding call experience, both on speakerphone and earpiece.

ok so its quality not volume. So that would probably mean radio kernel interfacing I'll look into it.

chrisryn said:
ok so its quality not volume. So that would probably mean radio kernel interfacing I'll look into it.
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Correct, in fact, volume is GREAT, it's just the garbled\digitized sound. It'll crank plenty loud till it really distorts, so volume is good.
UPDATE: contrary to what a couple others have said, it's still distorted when using an external headphone.... not as noticable as using the phone's speaker or earpiece, but distorted more so than stock, for sure.

Thank you for looking into it for us.

Chrisryn is on the case folks. He's good. The Andromeda ROM he was on for the Captivate is what kept me from tossing it out the window.
Now we just need to get the rest of the team on Inspires. Andromeda for Inspire please?

chrisryn said:
ok so its quality not volume. So that would probably mean radio kernel interfacing I'll look into it.
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Very cool. Thanks for looking into this. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. I am more than happy to be a guinea pig.

from what i gathered, it isn't a a kernel issue, so much as issues with the dolby information.
if 100% sound is important, use attn1s stock rooted rom. i keep a nandroid of it for when i need to use my phone as my mp3 player. otherwise, i'm running CM7.
also, jasonyump has a few audio fix tests for people to try.

mattbollenbach said:
from what i gathered, it isn't a a kernel issue, so much as issues with the dolby information.
if 100% sound is important, use attn1s stock rooted rom. i keep a nandroid of it for when i need to use my phone as my mp3 player. otherwise, i'm running CM7.
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I'm still looking for this answer: If I use this "stock ATT ROM" will I lose my HSUPA or has that been enabled on THIS stock rom?

This is my number one complaint with all the custome ROMS is the "tinny" sound. Thank you so much for looking into this

tpbklake said:
The kernel source was released yesterday by HTC, that is why you are seeing different kernels and ROMs in this forum now. I'm sure the devs are looking at this long and hard for a solution.
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Wasn't that source the Desire HD kernel source, which is different from the Inspire kernel source as far as audio goes?
Sent from my Inspire 4G.

[q] how about this...

Instead of making roms with all kinds of tweaks how about making an ICS Rom for tmous sensation 4g with everything working? Truthfully all I want in a Rom is an overclock kernel fm radio a browser that I can actually search with and most importantly tmo WiFi calling to work. All that other stuff (i don't know what it is) I could care less about. I just want the previously mentioned features to work and that's it. Sense overlay is nice but not even a requirement. I hear all kinds off sh*t talking about HTC devs that take forever to get their software out but at least when it comes out it seems to work. Instead of these roms that are kicked out to us everyday with a list of important features that just don't work. What is the point? Right now I'm waiting for an official ics update to come out and I'm just sticking to that. Rooted overclocked and thats about it. I have tried many of these custom roms and they all have some stupid problem which should not be happening. What's the point if no features work and the phone reboots all the time? For all this I could have stuck with any off the rack garbage bullish*t android phone. I get the same garbage performance. I mean most of the time people buy a phone because of certain features. But I don't think I'm asking for too much to have a proper stock browser WiFi calling and little or no random reboots. Basically, what's the problem here?

Kevc44485 said:
Instead of making roms with all kinds of tweaks how about making an ICS Rom for tmous sensation 4g with everything working? Truthfully all I want in a Rom is an overclock kernel fm radio a browser that I can actually search with and most importantly tmo WiFi calling to work. All that other stuff (i don't know what it is) I could care less about. I just want the previously mentioned features to work and that's it. Sense overlay is nice but not even a requirement. I hear all kinds off sh*t talking about HTC devs that take forever to get their software out but at least when it comes out it seems to work. Instead of these roms that are kicked out to us everyday with a list of important features that just don't work. What is the point? Right now I'm waiting for an official ics update to come out and I'm just sticking to that. Rooted overclocked and thats about it. I have tried many of these custom roms and they all have some stupid problem which should not be happening. What's the point if no features work and the phone reboots all the time? For all this I could have stuck with any off the rack garbage bullish*t android phone. I get the same garbage performance. I mean most of the time people buy a phone because of certain features. But I don't think I'm asking for too much to have a proper stock browser WiFi calling and little or no random reboots. Basically, what's the problem here?
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If you want it so bad and apparently you think it's a piece of cake, why don't you go make it yourself if you're that impatient.
Sent from my HTC Pyramid using xda premium

jab74101 said:
If you want it so bad and apparently you think it's a piece of cake, why don't you go make it yourself if you're that impatient.
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Never once did I imply that I thought it was easy nor did I say I wanted anything so badly, except for working features. In fact I said I would wait for an official update. I don't understand where that reply came from. As far as making a Rom myself I would love to but to ask a question on this website is like pulling teeth so...

OP, don't forget that developers need to release a somewhat working ROM in order for people to test and find things that might be wrong with it. Also you can't really blame them if they get excited and want to release as soon as they got something.

Ha! Wow, that's a pretty disrespectful rant...
You do realize that developers on xda and other sites are not employees, right? Nobody here is getting a salary, and projects that are released are done so for the benefit of the community. HTC has recently made it somewhat easier with OTA, RUU, and ICS kernel sources... yet, many projects are based on reverse engineering a ROM instead of working from the ground up with AOSP source. If something was compiled solely from AOSP then you'd have a pretty lack-luster ROM without any of the fancy functionality I'm sure you're looking for.
Now, add to all of this the fact that google REALLY changed things up with ICS and it's understandable that hiccups are going to occur!
Relax, crack a beer, wait for your OTA, and don't expect others to put work/family/school/etc... aside so that YOU can have wi-fi calling on a custom ROM.

GROGG88 said:
Ha! Wow, that's a pretty disrespectful rant...
You do realize that developers on xda and other sites are not employees, right? Nobody here is getting a salary, and projects that are released are done so for the benefit of the community. HTC has recently made it somewhat easier with OTA, RUU, and ICS kernel sources... yet, many projects are based on reverse engineering a ROM instead of working from the ground up with AOSP source. If something was compiled solely from AOSP then you'd have a pretty lack-luster ROM without any of the fancy functionality I'm sure you're looking for.
Now, add to all of this the fact that google REALLY changed things up with ICS and it's understandable that hiccups are going to occur!
Relax, crack a beer, wait for your OTA, and don't expect others to put work/family/school/etc... aside so that YOU can have wi-fi calling on a custom ROM.
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All I want is a browser and WiFi calling.

IF we never getting a fully working ICS/JellyBean+

How do you think this would affect us?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...me-with-new-experimental-virtualization-tech/
To me, it almost seems like a way of dual-booting but... simultaneously, pretty much. I think I could work/deal with this if it ever comes down to it. It sounds like even if radio functions weren't on one ROM, we could just have a fully working Gingerbread, or even a hackfest on the otherside carrying the team.
Of course, even this tech is still in it's early stages.
What do you guys think? Devs, would this possibly solve some issues?
Probably not the MAIN one.
Edit: "getting"? ... I meant get. ._.

Link
Ummmmm...
You mean like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111234
LOL
Wait just checked out your link... NEVERMIND
Interesting read.

SefEXE said:
How do you think this would affect us?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...me-with-new-experimental-virtualization-tech/
To me, it almost seems like a way of dual-booting but... simultaneously, pretty much. I think I could work/deal with this if it ever comes down to it. It sounds like even if radio functions weren't on one ROM, we could just have a fully working Gingerbread, or even a hackfest on the otherside carrying the team.
Of course, even this tech is still in it's early stages.
What do you guys think? Devs, would this possibly solve some issues?
Probably not the MAIN one.
Edit: "getting"? ... I meant get. ._.
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This device often runs out of RAM if you use a lot of apps simultaneously, so I can't imagine running TWO android ROMs at the same time. The Out of memory killer will get crazy!

Mazout360 said:
This device often runs out of RAM if you use a lot of apps simultaneously, so I can't imagine running TWO android ROMs at the same time. The Out of memory killer will get crazy!
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Hmm, hadn't thought of that. Well, maybe someone could make some kind of severly gimped rom that only runs the radio?
I still doubt that would help out the memory TOO much, but.. I dunno... Maybe like a 2.2/2.3 ROM?
This is all still just wishes and hopes for now, though.

I wouldn't mind having a 2nd rom used purely for calling and texting

Interesting read indeed. Although, by the time technology and proper coding permits something like this most of us would have probably moved on to another device. Although I plan on keeping my g2x for as long devs keep making roms, kernals and mods for it.
However I'm currently running eagles blood ics 4.0.4. And I mist say its the closest to a fully functioning ics rom on this phone that I can tell. I wouldn't be planning to flash cm7 on it if it weren't tor the inability to record video and wifi calling.....these are the only 2 functions that do not work....that I unfortunately need. The customization is fairly good on stock settings, stock kernal is fast, battery is good enough and the voltage is completely tweakable if you want to make it last longer.
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KitKat 4.4

Sssooo.... According to what I read last night, KitKat is supposed to be able to be usable on pretty much all Android phones, all the way down to those with 512mb of RAM.
Any thoughts as to whether the Charge is gonna get some love with this (certainly, I know, NOT from Big Red)?
"I've got a revolution behind my eyes..."
--Battle Flag

There will be peace in the middle east first. :banghead:
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Just because they say it could run on lower end phones doesn't mean it will run w/o lag and so on. I heard the chez won't be getting kit Kat so what does that tell you about the older phones.
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk

The only thing that will run on lower end devices is the new launcher and Google apps. The new ui is supposed to be included in the new launcher and make lower end devices feel and look more like newer ones.
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lazarus0000 said:
Sssooo.... According to what I read last night, KitKat is supposed to be able to be usable on pretty much all Android phones, all the way down to those with 512mb of RAM.
Any thoughts as to whether the Charge is gonna get some love with this (certainly, I know, NOT from Big Red)?
"I've got a revolution behind my eyes..."
--Battle Flag
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The problem with an upgrade to any newer OS on the Charge is the radios. I don't see KitKat and an exception.:crying::crying:

Interesting how they had it where you could use Hangouts as your default SMS App with all the Emoji smileys on phones with Gingerbread including the Charge on the leaked version from the Nexus 5. It was fully working and I tried it. However, now that it's released to everybody through the Play Store, the SMS option is for Android 4.0 Only.

just got kitkat on my razr.... wish I knew how to port, b/c then I would attempt to port this great ROM over to the old Charge....

I'm interested in doing a CM11 build for the Charge or atleast a CM 10.2 build. I have a Galaxy S4 now but I would love to get some use out of the charge. I just want to turn it into a kickass media player since the RIL situation is never going to get solved. If anyone knows what is involved to make this happen it would help me greatly. I've never built CM before. I've read the CM developer wiki. A lot is over my head. I am trying to learn though

pyroman512 said:
I'm interested in doing a CM11 build for the Charge or atleast a CM 10.2 build. I have a Galaxy S4 now but I would love to get some use out of the charge. I just want to turn it into a kickass media player since the RIL situation is never going to get solved. If anyone knows what is involved to make this happen it would help me greatly. I've never built CM before. I've read the CM developer wiki. A lot is over my head. I am trying to learn though
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284985
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro

pyroman512 said:
I'm interested in doing a CM11 build for the Charge or atleast a CM 10.2 build. I have a Galaxy S4 now but I would love to get some use out of the charge. I just want to turn it into a kickass media player since the RIL situation is never going to get solved. If anyone knows what is involved to make this happen it would help me greatly. I've never built CM before. I've read the CM developer wiki. A lot is over my head. I am trying to learn though
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I think you're on the right track, though I think I'd stick with CM11 rather than CM10.2.

Well I am really interested in learning how to build. So I think I will run a few builds for the Fascinate and then see what I can do for the Charge. My programming experience is intermediate. I feel confident I can learn the process and at least get a semi functional kitkat build up and running and then maybe others could help work out the bugs

pyroman512 said:
Well I am really interested in learning how to build. So I think I will run a few builds for the Fascinate and then see what I can do for the Charge. My programming experience is intermediate. I feel confident I can learn the process and at least get a semi functional kitkat build up and running and then maybe others could help work out the bugs
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good luck brother... i'd be glad to test for ya.
some tips that you may/may not already know:
my understanding is that OS 4+ require EXT4 rather than RFS, so it might help to start with a kernel that allows this conversion. there are a few floating around that work.
someone (JT) has successfully (and I guess relatively easily) ported ICS and JB to the charge, the key aspects not working though were mobile data and camera.
I'm told the key road block is the RIL for the kernel in order to get those aspects functioning properly.
as for me, I'd be happy with just a working camera, as the Charge is used by my son as a WiFi-only media player/gaming device. he likes to take pictures/videos, so this is the only thing preventing me from converting it the latest JB port.
again, good luck, and let us know how the progress goes!

Well I just started a new job and am settling into that so time will be scarce for a bit. I wouldn't even know how to start with the RIL. I would definitely want to get the camera working provided I can even successfully build CM11. I want to make it clear that I am new to this so it is a big undertaking for me and I have a lot to learn. Once I get a build enviroment set up I will see if I can make some fascinate builds for practice since it is very similar to the charge. Then i will reach out to sbrissen or jt1134 and see if they can give me any pointers. I forked their code on github already.

pyroman512 said:
Well I just started a new job and am settling into that so time will be scarce for a bit. I wouldn't even know how to start with the RIL. I would definitely want to get the camera working provided I can even successfully build CM11. I want to make it clear that I am new to this so it is a big undertaking for me and I have a lot to learn. Once I get a build enviroment set up I will see if I can make some fascinate builds for practice since it is very similar to the charge. Then i will reach out to sbrissen or jt1134 and see if they can give me any pointers. I forked their code on github already.
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As a previous owner of a droid charge, I honestly hope I can squeeze some use out of it as a media device.