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okay so a wide generalization here but anyone who used phone alarm to emulate an iphone etc etc is breaking copy rite law... and its you who I want to talk to anyone else push back and don't look back...
So my next question shouldn't be taboo as were all hacker pirates anyway...
Where can I get the registration code for phone-alarm? or a new or older version of phone alarm with a crack?
Your not telling me you all paid for it?... PS to anyone who helps me and is still seeking the Iphone skinning software, in one easy to manage cab file... I have it, it was a bugger to find - but I got it.
I've skinned my pda to the chuff monkers and I'm not forking out a shilling for a program even if it is the icing on the cake! To be honest I don't like icing anyway, I'm not fussy, I'll have it - but I don't want to pay for it!
If you could let me know - in a post, and maybe we could arrange a file transfer at some point.
that'd be Fabby!
JJ McG!
congrats you win the NUMPTY of the week award. Go get a job.. buy the software and then maybe install a bad GPS program and drive off a clift!
off a clift huh?, very intelligent.
meh
Congratulation Jonjamesm! You just got yourself a 1 way ticket for being banned. Congratulation again
LOL... Kids these days...
What makes you so special? Pay like everybody else. You should probably have a look at Number 11 on the post at the top of this forum as well . . . .
pffft....
in that case, I propose a ban on the apple Iphone sticky thread... and any other thread that has theme/emulation software specifically made to clone a copy written item and the boasting of owning such software.
Captin jonjamesm - the torrent pirate.
Big
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Jonjamesm, the rules are quite clear - we have a healthy respect for developed software on this site.
This thread is closed and you can have a one week ban to think about this. Any further posts like this will lead to a permenant ban. Jonjamesm if you had not told a member to p..s off (2nd post which you have edited)i would have only given you a warning.
it would suck.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/02/apple-says-ipho.html
the only way i would take an iphone now is if it said "free with 2 year contract". the wife likes pretty things.
I won't buy an iPhone (nor will I buy any Apple products) primarily because I don't support Apple. Completely closed phone platforms, OSX only legal on their hardware, charging $100 for 8GB of memory confused, etc. The iPhone is a fine piece of hardware. Too bad it's made by Apple.
yeah
I used to be a big supporter of apple stuff, but it seems in recent years only the dollars matter.
That being said, I just bought an jailbroken iPhone from a friend on the cheap to try out some crazy hardware/software mods. Guess I should go turn myself in.
psssst–anyone want to get android running on the iPhone? *insert evil laugh here*
Apple made the assertion in comments (.pdf) to the U.S. Copyright Office as the government reviews proposals for DMCA exemptions.
What are they going to do? Sue us for customizing our own purchases?
Way I see it is if you buy it you should be able to do what you want with it.
If I buy a new car I'd be pissed if the manufacturer said that I couldn't add a new stereo or rims or something like that.
It just goes to show how desperate Apple is getting to take over a Microsoft world.
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Apple made the assertion in comments (.pdf) to the U.S. Copyright Office as the government reviews proposals for DMCA exemptions.
What are they going to do? Sue us for customizing our own purchases?
Way I see it is if you buy it you should be able to do what you want with it.
If I buy a new car I'd be pissed if the manufacturer said that I couldn't add a new stereo or rims or something like that.
It just goes to show how desperate Apple is getting to take over a Microsoft world.
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Sure you can apple just released their new rims and stereo equipment last week. The rims are called ivogues
I have no idea where this topic should go so im putting it here.
Ill start off by saying this: I'm a fifteen year old kid with no money, and sometimes I pirate apps. This isn't about piracy like where should i go for it etc. Because i know that is against the rules. I don't have any way to buy apps or i would, im poor and i don't have a credit or debit card to use. So devs aren't losing money by me pirating. And i know its wrong and i shouldn't do it. Its just the only way to get things sometimes.
If you're still reading and haven't already reported me, here is my story.
Last night i was just messing with my phone, playing games and talking to friends. My phone randomly rebooted and started going into a bootloop of sorts; it would start up and i could get to the homescreen but it was almost unresponsive and i was getting a lot of force closes. I couldn't figure out the issue so i did a backup and a data wipe, planning to restore from TitaniumBackup.
That's when i figured out the problem. My sD card had been completely wiped, all 14 gigs of music, videos, important documents, pictures, apps, everything. It was all gone and replaced with 1037 pictures of a penis with a smiley face drawn on it, captioned "**** you mobilism stop stealing from droidfanz" which i have no idea who mobilism is or what droidfanz is.
I ran recuva on the card hoping to find my files somehow but it only found 3000 more of the pictures along with lots of random pictures of porn and concerts and people jumping off of houses onto mattresses.
I guess im mostly making this thread as 1. A shoutout to mobilism, droidfanz, whoever else caused this to say, you're an ass. Piracy is wrong but there are lots of things you could do that aren't going to destroy my life by deleting all of my personal documents. If i had the ability to buy your apps then i would.
2. A notice to other people... Don't pirate. At least be careful because some developers would rather destroy you than just make it so you can't use their app or something.
That's it. Ban me if you want, i figured i should at least get this out there to warn people. Im going to be trying to restore my life for the next few days anyways.
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Good you deserved this. You stole apps from devs which is like taking there life. It only seems fitting that a dev returns the favor. Hope you learned. Also invest in a pre load debt card so you can legitimately purchase apps. Being broke is not an excuse for piracy and sure as hell wouldn't stand in court. Look at it this way .99 cents for an app or thousands in fees cause you got caught pirating.
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Wow, that's crazy.
Mobilism and Droidfanz are, to the best of my knowledge, warez sites.
Sounds like maybe Droidfaz people are loading files that look like applications, but really are malicious files over to Mobilism in some sort of a war.
Those malicious files could have been further distributed to wherever you go the file from.
I dont agree with you ironlood.
Firstly, fighting fire with fire is not a solution. If someone is doing something wrong, it does not mean that you should do something worse. Revenge is only allowed if it is equal, not worse than the original offence.
Secondly, the OP does not even know if this happened due to a rogue application by a Dev or some hacker at Droidfanz try to get back at mobilism. Its interesting looks like two underground piracy outfits clashing. (I dont know what these sites are, but thats what it sounds like).
I'm not saying piracy is allowed, but lets just not be too anal not to allow extenuating circumstances (although I am not saying this particular case is).
OP, next time stick to free apps only. There is nothing you cant live without.
Wow. I certainly don't pirate apps because I'm a faithful Android fan and truly appreciate the work of the developers. We give them hardly anything for their work so the spare change you pay now and again is well worth it. Sometimes I donate even more after I buy their apps.
That being said, I don't want any chance of this happening to my phone because I downloaded a rogue app that made it to the market or was shared in the community. If someone does that to me, I'll sue them only because I can't physically beat the f*** out of them.
You shouldn't pirate though, bro. Pirate from big corporations like Microsoft as they inflate their prices and can afford it. Don't pirate from the college student who's starving and worse off than you!
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Wow. I certainly don't pirate apps because I'm a faithful Android fan and truly appreciate the work of the developers. We give them hardly anything for their work so the spare change you pay now and again is well worth it. Sometimes I donate even more after I buy their apps.
That being said, I don't want any chance of this happening to my phone because I downloaded a rogue app that made it to the market or was shared in the community. If someone does that to me, I'll sue them only because I can't physically beat the f*** out of them.
You shouldn't pirate though, bro. Pirate from big corporations like Microsoft as they inflate their prices and can afford it. Don't pirate from the college student who's starving and worse off than you!
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lol Its like saying steal from the RICH they won't mind it!
Piracy Is Piracy.
But please don't give me the crap that all of you guys are saints...YOU ARE NOT!
@OP That was a very peculiar "virus". The thing i don't understand that doesn't a virus NOT need superuser permissions(ROOT) to access your system??
Money for an Android mobile and a 16 GB SD card but no 99 Cent to buy an app? That's ridiculous.
And that wasn't done by the developer. You caught a Trojan...
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Did you know that if you walked in a store and stole a shirt, you would get arrested? I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't matter if you were rich or poor and whether or not you could afford it. You got what you deserved.
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Money for an Android mobile and a 16 GB SD card but no 99 Cent to buy an app? That's ridiculous.
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This is true. You obviously could afford to buy apps if you wanted to, you just don't want to because you can get them for free.
Just for the sake of conversation.
Why is it ok to violate your TOS as well as abuse your carrier by getting around their bandwidth usage requirements and tethering options but piracy off applications is wrong?
Who decides what is right and wrong in this situation? The danger to android isn't merely fragmentation, it is the wild west nature of open source and whether developers will continue to contribute at such a rate knowing that there is no law or protection in place to keep their work as financially viable.
These are topics that android will have to deal with and sort whether it is by google or by the community coming to some sort of developer support agreement.
Really is neat watching an industry find its way. I just hope it doesn't get lost in the process.
thanks for sharing about your misfortunes and hopefully you learned from it! Best of luck!
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Money for an Android mobile and a 16 GB SD card but no 99 Cent to buy an app? That's ridiculous.
And that wasn't done by the developer. You caught a Trojan...
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That isn't ridiculous. More like my parents saved up to my me a phone as a birthday present, it was free with the special Christmas deal from US Cellular and it came with the card. Both the phone and card were actually free for my parents to buy and were a birthday present for me, we're just paying for the plan and I still have no money to buy apps.
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Just for the sake of conversation.
Why is it ok to violate your TOS as well as abuse your carrier by getting around their bandwidth usage requirements and tethering options but piracy off applications is wrong?
Who decides what is right and wrong in this situation? The danger to android isn't merely fragmentation, it is the wild west nature of open source and whether developers will continue to contribute at such a rate knowing that there is no law or protection in place to keep their work as financially viable.
These are topics that android will have to deal with and sort whether it is by google or by the community coming to some sort of developer support agreement.
Really is neat watching an industry find its way. I just hope it doesn't get lost in the process.
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I agree. All the people telling me I deserved it.... yeah you are probably right, I shouldn't have done it but you can't say I'm taking money from the dev because no matter what he isn't going to get money from me because I don't have any to give.
And I'm sure you've all stolen music or used a tethering app or something that isn't legal.
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And I'm sure you've all stolen music or used a tethering app or something that isn't legal.
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Get a job. You had this coming, as far as I'm concerned.
The whole penis thing might be a little extreme but i guess you deserved it.
What comes around goes around, you steal apps and now you lost everything. Being broke is not an excuse for being a douch-bag and stealing apps. I don't think telling a judge I was broke so I stole it would be a good defense. Not to mention you "stole" an item that is not something you need to live like stealing food not that that is ok either. I hope this was a lesson learned.
sageDIEU, fair play to you for openly telling your story.. you've probably learnt your lesson anyway now, although your reasons are more than dubious (still doesn't make it right in my opinion, just because I've not got the money now or ever to buy a ferrari, doesn't mean I can just go and pinch one)
The only issue I have, is that some developers expect you to pay for a product that has no decent demo. There's plenty of people producing crap apps for android and other OS's and expecting money for it. I've already paid for quite a few apps that have turned out to be a complete waste of money. I'd rather try an app (by whatever means) and then I'll gladly pay the developer for his work if it's a good product, if it's not, it doesn't stay on my phone and the developer won't get my dough.
Just about everyone uses a hacked app for whatever reason in their life. I don't judge anyone for doing so, but you should never ever keep important files on just 1 storage location. You can always lose/break it.
Learn from this!
Try searching for undelete/unformat software. Maybe you will be able to recover some of it. Good luck..
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lol Its like saying steal from the RICH they won't mind it!
Piracy Is Piracy.
But please don't give me the crap that all of you guys are saints...YOU ARE NOT!
@OP That was a very peculiar "virus". The thing i don't understand that doesn't a virus NOT need superuser permissions(ROOT) to access your system??
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Corporations rob consumers, they're the only ones I would not feel bad about when it comes to pirating. I don't need commercial apps from huge corps most of the time though, outside of an OS. There are usually freeware versions which are better and have direct support from the developer. I'd rather have a free app with customizations and bug fixes from direct developer correspondence than a commercial app from a huge corp in most cases. Wouldn't you?
And **** off with the saint comment. I'm not elitist. I just think if a hard working Joe does a good job, I'd rather commend him instead of some money grubbing corporation. This is a tight community. And would you rather give a friend money or a stranger money? I'd rather give a friend money, any day of the week. Especially if they've developed an app that I use EVERY SINGLE DAY and only paid a dollar or two for!!!!
You guys are so ****ing cheap. End of story. I hope your phones get hacked. There's absolutely no reason to ***** about a dollar or two here and there for an app that you'll use day in, day out.
All of you people giving analogies of 'pirating' with 'stealing' do not know what an IP is. That analogy is WRONG.
Also, you really think rooting your phone and installing custom roms is not a violation?
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Just about everyone uses a hacked app for whatever reason in their life. I don't judge anyone for doing so, but you should never ever keep important files on just 1 storage location. You can always lose/break it.
Learn from this!
Try searching for undelete/unformat software. Maybe you will be able to recover some of it. Good luck..
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Agreed, and I doubt you were punished by the developper you stole apps from.
You should really be carefull on what you install, especially on those uncontrolled warez sites.
http://www.cultofmac.com/apple-sues-teen-who-sold-steve-wozniak-his-white-iphone-4/97249
Theres the link basically summarizing that apple decides to sue a teenager who sold white iphone 4 conversion kits he ordered from china early, and apple decides to sue his family for over 100k, im not gunna lie apple is starting to piss me of with there suing of samsung "copying" the iPhone and copying android with iOS 5, not to mention they called us copycats with our tablets that are VERY different from theres..
It's apple's time of the month.
+1 to that!!
While I don't agree with Apple suing the Teenager and targeting him first, the parts were also obtained illegally, and he had no permission to sell apples products. His parents also were in on it too, so it was more a family matter than just him. What they're suing him for is basically what he made, that seems pretty fair to me.
Also haters gonna hate. If Apple didn't bring out the ipad, the tablet market would still be tiny and almost non-existent. Same with the smart phone market, and same with the mp3 market. They don't create the markets, but they easily have a hand in shaping them to something bigger.
Read other articles too that explain the situation more.
http://www.cultofmac.com/teen-who-s...d-a-laywer-to-defend-himself-from-apple/97469
It’s a bit hard to parse what to think of all this. On one hand, it seems pretty bogus for Apple to be sending a team of lawyers into a meeting with a teenage kid who can’t afford representation, but on the other hand, it looks like Apple’s not really interested in taking this very far. After all, they’ve already filed motion to dismiss. My guess is they are just trying to make a public wrist-slap of the whole thing, and otherwise, let Fei get on with his life. But should proceedings really have even gotten this far to begin with?
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Like I said, I don't agree with Apple targeting him like that, but the kits weren't his to sell.
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While I don't agree with Apple suing the Teenager and targeting him first, the parts were also obtained illegally, and he had no permission to sell apples products. His parents also were in on it too, so it was more a family matter than just him. What they're suing him for is basically what he made, that seems pretty fair to me.
Also haters gonna hate. If Apple didn't bring out the ipad, the tablet market would still be tiny and almost non-existent. Same with the smart phone market, and same with the mp3 market. They don't create the markets, but they easily have a hand in shaping them to something bigger.
Read other articles too that explain the situation more.
http://www.cultofmac.com/teen-who-s...d-a-laywer-to-defend-himself-from-apple/97469
Like I said, I don't agree with Apple targeting him like that, but the kits weren't his to sell.
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It's extremely refreshing to see someone who isn't completely stupidly blinded by Android fanboyism; someone who realizes that Android wouldn't be where it is now if Apple hadn't started this all.
Not mocking you, I'm serious. I've seen your posts and you seem to be among the few mature people on this forum.
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It's extremely refreshing to see someone who isn't completely stupidly blinded by Android fanboyism; someone who realizes that Android wouldn't be where it is now if Apple hadn't started this all.
Not mocking you, I'm serious. I've seen your posts and you seem to be among the few mature people on this forum.
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i feel a simple cease and desist letter would have been good enough. i dont consider myself as a fanboy but this. i dont think the need to sue him:
1. he was just trying to pay for school
2. all the clients that bought the kits had to take apart there phones thus voiding there warranty. so if they broke it then apple will charge full price to anyone who needed to get a replacement. more money for Steve.
they are makings him give all his money he made back to apple and shut down the site. if i were apple i would congratulate him and maybe make him a distributor.
Just return the damn parts.
100k for some kid and his family? Ridiculous.
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im not gunna lie apple is starting to piss me of
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Starting? Apple has never changed.
synisterwolf said:
i feel a simple cease and desist letter would have been good enough. i dont consider myself as a fanboy but this. i dont think the need to sue him:
1. he was just trying to pay for school
2. all the clients that bought the kits had to take apart there phones thus voiding there warranty. so if they broke it then apple will charge full price to anyone who needed to get a replacement. more money for Steve.
they are makings him give all his money he made back to apple and shut down the site. if i were apple i would congratulate him and maybe make him a distributor.
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1. Doesn't matter, he is still selling an illegal product. That being okay, then it must be okay for me to sell a product that's also illegal to put myself through school! Thinking heroine might fetch me a good amount.
2. That's on the client then, since they decided to buy the kit.
I don't think some of you realize that what he did was illegal. I will say it again, even though I've said it a couple of times. The way Apple went after this kid I'm against, but the kid should not be protected or above the law and should have known what he was getting himself into. Intel does the same thing when people leak pre production cpus. It's one thing if it's just the kid, but it's his kid and his parents and his parents are responsible for him. Even if they weren't in on it, they could have easily just have said no to this but didn't.
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1. Doesn't matter, he is still selling an illegal product. That being okay, then it must be okay for me to sell a product that's also illegal to put myself through school! Thinking heroine might fetch me a good amount.
2. That's on the client then, since they decided to buy the kit.
I don't think some of you realize that what he did was illegal. I will say it again, even though I've said it a couple of times. The way Apple went after this kid I'm against, but the kid should not be protected or above the law and should have known what he was getting himself into. Intel does the same thing when people leak pre production cpus. It's one thing if it's just the kid, but it's his kid and his parents and his parents are responsible for him. Even if they weren't in on it, they could have easily just have said no to this but didn't.
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Hello.
Lam is claimed to have diluted and infringed Apple’s trademark – compromising its relationship with customers by causing confusion over whether there was an official release of the white iPhone 4.
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Wow. See - U.S. "intellectual property" law has become a burden impossible to bear, which is being exported worldwide - like the ACTA crap. Retarded patents being granted by USPTO without any prior review, RIAA, MPAA etc. lobbying their laws thru to force virtually unlimited copyright duration, strip all fair use right from people etc.
This idiocy is harming progress. Who profits? Lawyers? Sure. Jobbers? Definitely. Lawmakers that take money from these lobbyists? You bet. Consumers? Hell no way.
He sold on as conversion kits at up to $295 a piece to those who couldn’t wait any longer for the device
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Wow. White iPhone 4, wheeeeeeeee. I must have it NOW, 111!!!!!!111!!
Let us shot the minor dead since our brainwashed iPhone fans are "confused". Go sue those who buy some Chinese piece of plastic skin worth of $0.50 for $295 and declare them mentally incompetent, first of all taking their voting right away from them.
I like how everyone is just preying on the obvious sensationalist nature of the article.
What he did was wrong, it doesn't matter if he was a minor, a girl, a monkey or Bob Saget, it's still wrong. Get it into your heads, and move the **** on.
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What he did was wrong, it doesn't matter if he was a minor, a girl, a monkey or Bob Saget, it's still wrong. Get it into your heads, and move the **** on.
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The only thing being wrong here is Apple not realizing they have succeeded in brainwashing people so incredibly that they are willing to fork out $300 for a piece of useless plastic (the "conversion" kit.) - what a missed business opportunity. They could have spared loads of cash selling just the useless plastic instead of the whole phone. Buy a black iPhone and get a white skin for only $300 - wow, what a bargain. I can imagine millions of teenagers convincing their parents that this is definitely a musthave.
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It's extremely refreshing to see someone who isn't completely stupidly blinded by Android fanboyism; someone who realizes that Android wouldn't be where it is now if Apple hadn't started this all.
Not mocking you, I'm serious. I've seen your posts and you seem to be among the few mature people on this forum.
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Disliking one brand does not automatically make you a fanboy of another rival brand. Your generalisation fails.
Like Kayne West, like what they make, hate what they do.
hungry81 said:
Disliking one brand does not automatically make you a fanboy of another rival brand. Your generalisation fails.
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Obviously you don't know the difference between "disliking" a brand and having irrational hate for it. The majority of people posting in here have no real rational reason for their Apple hate, it's just all about how Android owners are "required by unwritten code of law" to hate all things Apple.
Apple's not perfect, but much of the reasoning I keep seeing for hating them is downright immature and retarded.
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Obviously you don't know the difference between "disliking" a brand and having irrational hate for it.
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Even irrational hatered of something does not automatically equal fanboisim for a rival brand, although it is equally as pointless as irrational devotion.
I can like several products and dislike others for many reasons without being a fanboy for any one of them.
Irrational devotion and defensiveness for a brand is a sign of fanboisim. Not bothering to research and just purchasing on company marketing or brand loyalty can be a result fanboisim.
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The majority of people posting in here have no real rational reason for their Apple hate, it's just all about how Android owners are "required by unwritten code of law" to hate all things Apple.
Apple's not perfect, but much of the reasoning I keep seeing for hating them is downright immature and retarded.
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I am glad you can tell people what they think and why they think it. People like and dislike apple for a number of reasons. Conversely many of the reasons I see people telling me I should like apple I consider immature and retarded, and until I see features that appeal to me I shall not consider buying apple products.
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Even irrational hatered of something does not automatically equal fanboisim for a rival brand, although it is equally as pointless as irrational devotion.
I can like several products and dislike others for many reasons without being a fanboy for any one of them.
Irrational devotion and defensiveness for a brand is a sign of fanboisim. Not bothering to research and just purchasing on company marketing or brand loyalty can be a result fanboisim.
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It does when you supplement said irrational hate with further irrational/generalized/generic points about your preferred brand.
I am glad you can tell people what they think and why they think it. People like and dislike apple for a number of reasons. Conversely many of the reasons I see people telling me I should like apple I consider immature and retarded, and until I see features that appeal to me I shall not consider buying apple products.
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Yes, because I've said somewhere in my post that I hate Apple or that you should like Apple. /s
Are you even reading the thread title? It's something a 10 year-old would say. If it was Google suing a minor, you can be damn sure the title would haven't been phrased the way it is. I'm not telling ANYONE what to think, I'm asking people to think about what they're saying. If you still want to **** on Apple, at least use mature reasoning, that's all I'm saying.It's like watching the console wars (360 vs PS3) and the combatants are all screaming tweens who play Modern Warfare and whose mothers just bought them their consoles
Please don't play stupid. The Android fanboyism is here, and rampant. Each line of the irrational insults and hate that iOS and Apple get on here further confirms to me that there are complete idiots who exist on this forum who don't understand what impact Apple has had on the mobile landscape.
You respect your rivals, you don't hate them. Even if you don't want to be remotely polite about them, the least you can do is ignore what doesn't affect you, especially when you use retarded childish tactics to make your opinion vocal.
I think the biggest issue people see here is that people try to push the idea that because Android gives us choice, it must instantly be better. Where is the logic in that? I have the CHOICE to say **** the law and start shooting people at random, rather than stick with the law that says doing so is not allowed. Exaggerated? Yes. Retains the point? Very much so; Apple's strategy is not to be the mind-controlling Orwellian bull**** that most Android fanboys seem to think it is, they simply try to eliminate the need for choice by making all the elements of the phone and its OS as perfect, functional, and good looking as they can.
That doesn't make them worse, that just makes them different. You don't have to agree with it, but it doesn't make for a poor product, it just makes for a product that doesn't do what you want.
Although the kid shouldn't have sold the conversion kits, that was clearly wrong, there is something else here.
If he was able to sell these kits at $300 a piece, then there was obviously some moron willing to pay that price. Simple supply and demand. They are clinically insane.
Apple is also trying to send out a message here and declare that anyone willing to sell their product illegally will be held accountable. They are just trying to protect their intellectual property. I feel a little bit of sympathy for the kid, but he will know never to do it again!
He found someone in the factory to see him the parts.. I would think the factory should be hit hard for this, which I assume they will be..
I am just curious at what point to they become Apple's property. If apple pre-paid for all the parts than sure it s theirs..If they pay after the parts are made and delivered, than did the kid sell Apple's stuff or just copyright infringement because of the logo?
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He found someone in the factory to see him the parts.. I would think the factory should be hit hard for this, which I assume they will be..
I am just curious at what point to they become Apple's property. If apple pre-paid for all the parts than sure it s theirs..If they pay after the parts are made and delivered, than did the kid sell Apple's stuff or just copyright infringement because of the logo?
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From the moment the contract was made from Apple to Foxconn, it was Apples product.
Guys search the market for Real64, It's a N64 Emulator, It looks like someone has just ripped of N64oid and repacked it even the icon is the same
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.advcaveman.real64
So..
Does it have rumble?
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The author claims it's a port of mupen64plus, an open source emulator, and he seems really intent in describing the components of the emulator. Either he's a very cheeky ripoff or it's the real deal.
Its clearly a rip off. the Gui and even the app icon is a complete copy of yongzh's n64oid.
heres the legit n64oid http://slideme.org/application/n64oid
edit: heck even the version number is the same!
Logseman said:
The author claims it's a port of mupen64plus, an open source emulator, and he seems really intent in describing the components of the emulator. Either he's a very cheeky ripoff or it's the real deal.
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The description is a simple cut-and-paste of yongzh's description.
If you guys looked closer, youll see about 6 or 7 N64oid's uploaded to the market, just look at the other emulators screenshots, they didnt even bother using their own! That is seriously not fair that a legit dev like yongzh gets booted from market but the android market team still lets this drivel stay. *sigh* I dont care if he didnt use his own source code, he was the first to actually bring us a n64 emu to android and he did that very well. Damn.
I stand corrected.
He's going to get banned from the market for the same reason Yongzh did. You can't repack or port an open source project and sell it for personal gain. That's the whole point of an open source license.
Don't get your hopes up on buying this and getting a constantly evolving or improving emulator.
Clyzm said:
You can't repack or port an open source project and sell it for personal gain.
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A common misconception:
A program is free software if users have all of these freedoms [The 4 Freedoms]. Thus, you should be free to redistribute copies, either with or without modifications, either gratis or charging a fee for distribution, to anyone anywhere.
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http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Probably is the guy who was pretending to have a ps3 emulator in dev and asking for donations.
He even added yongzh to his credits.
Since yongzh's version was paid, isn't it illegal? You can't exactly take paid software, rip it off completely, then sell it for your own profit, right?
speedyink said:
He even added yongzh to his credits.
Since yongzh's version was paid, isn't it illegal? You can't exactly take paid software, rip it off completely, then sell it for your own profit, right?
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Yongzh took somebody elses work (mupen64plus) changed it and sold it for money which he shouldn't really do (although his emulator is awesome!). this dude stole yongzh's work and made absolutely no changes, which is alot worse imo. it even seems insulting and lazy that he would use the same icon and description.
bubblegumballon said:
Yongzh took somebody elses work (mupen64plus) changed it and sold it for money which he shouldn't really do (although his emulator is awesome!). this dude stole yongzh's work and made absolutely no changes, which is alot worse imo. it even seems insulting and lazy that he would use the same icon and description.
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I'm completely aware of his ripping off mupen64plus, but this is different, he at least put SOME work into it in order to make it compatible with android. He also needs to keep putting in time to update it, so I'll pay him as incentive to keep working on it.
Logseman said:
A common misconception:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
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Charging a fee for distribution is a very different thing from re-packing an existing program and selling it.
Buying an Ubuntu disc is paying for distribution. Buying Ubuntu and giving the distributor profit is misuse of open source.
Yongzh's account was pulled from the market because his Super Nintendo emulator was pretty much a repacked version of Snes9x and sold for profit. Yongzh can now make the same claim about Real64 if he actually ported Mupen64 properly himself, and it wasn't just another Java wrapper.
You know what, I stand corrected:
GNU Article said:
You may have paid money to get copies of free software, or you may have obtained copies at no charge. But regardless of how you got your copies, you always have the freedom to copy and change the software, even to sell copies.
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However, having read through that, there's a few more infringements here. Both Yongzh and this new developer of Real64 are distributing a version of Mupen64 (and in Yongzh's case, Snes9x) without consent of the original developers, and for profit. If the Mupen64 devs decide to go after them and prove that their software is similar enough, this can still be taken off the market. At this point it's less of an open source issue and more of a copyright issue.
Clyzm said:
Charging a fee for distribution is a very different thing from re-packing an existing program and selling it.
Buying an Ubuntu disc is paying for distribution. Buying Ubuntu and giving the distributor profit is misuse of open source.
Yongzh's account was pulled from the market because his Super Nintendo emulator was pretty much a repacked version of Snes9x and sold for profit. Yongzh can now make the same claim about Real64 if he actually ported Mupen64 properly himself, and it wasn't just another Java wrapper.
You know what, I stand corrected:
However, having read through that, there's a few more infringements here. Both Yongzh and this new developer of Real64 are distributing a version of Mupen64 (and in Yongzh's case, Snes9x) without consent of the original developers, and for profit. If the Mupen64 devs decide to go after them and prove that their software is similar enough, this can still be taken off the market. At this point it's less of an open source issue and more of a copyright issue.
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How do i go about getting a refund for this?
I bought it the other day but can no longer download via the market.
-RR
h20wakebum said:
How do i go about getting a refund for this?
I bought it the other day but can no longer download via the market.
-RR
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That may be my fault It was there yesterday before i wrote an email to google complaining that it's a rip off of n64oid and even if its not, it's breaking the GPL rules sorry
Logseman said:
A common misconception:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
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The overlooked 5th rule. Feel free to take the work that was taken and sold for personal gain if it is against your personal morals.
NeoandGeo said:
The overlooked 5th rule. Feel free to take the work that was taken and sold for personal gain if it is against your personal morals.
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So does this mean I can take N64oid and add touch pad support and sell it ?
Because that seems to be what n4oid did
subcu1ture said:
So does this mean I can take N64oid and add touch pad support and sell it ?
Because that seems to be what n4oid did
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i'd buy it from you...
in the dark alley of course
Clyzm said:
Charging a fee for distribution is a very different thing from re-packing an existing program and selling it.
Buying an Ubuntu disc is paying for distribution. Buying Ubuntu and giving the distributor profit is misuse of open source.
Yongzh's account was pulled from the market because his Super Nintendo emulator was pretty much a repacked version of Snes9x and sold for profit. Yongzh can now make the same claim about Real64 if he actually ported Mupen64 properly himself, and it wasn't just another Java wrapper.
You know what, I stand corrected:
However, having read through that, there's a few more infringements here. Both Yongzh and this new developer of Real64 are distributing a version of Mupen64 (and in Yongzh's case, Snes9x) without consent of the original developers, and for profit. If the Mupen64 devs decide to go after them and prove that their software is similar enough, this can still be taken off the market. At this point it's less of an open source issue and more of a copyright issue.
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You do not need to ask for consent from anyone, including the authors. The GPL allows you to sell the software, not just for distribution. Jesus, it's all in the document if you'd read it. SNES9x's license allows it as well.
Read, educate yourself: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
subcu1ture said:
So does this mean I can take N64oid and add touch pad support and sell it ?
Because that seems to be what n4oid did
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Yes, as long as the source that you changed would be licensed under the GPL and freely available.