http://blog.htc.com/2013/01/continued-support-for-the-developer-community/
Nice, but I doubt I will change my mind. I'm done, and regardless of their explanations, unless they allow s-off with the HTC dev unlocking. That might make me reconsider. Thanks for posting!
I know what I'm buying when I get $349 + shipping and handling
mirGantrophy said:
I know what I'm buying when I get $349 + shipping and handling
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Already ordered mine.
Calebt said:
Already ordered mine.
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Lol me too guys. 1st chance I got I jumped at opportunity.
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I know what I'm buying when I get $349 + shipping and handling
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if all go's well mines will be ordered tomorrow
I'm sorry I feel a little slow but are you talking about the nexus 4? And I'm getting quote fed up with HTC myself despite being a huge fan for a while they've been flip flop on their decisions the past year or so. One day they say this and one they say this and sometimes never even follow up on somethings I'm almost done with them
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I'm sorry I feel a little slow but are you talking about the nexus 4? And I'm getting quote fed up with HTC myself despite being a huge fan for a while they've been flip flop on their decisions the past year or so. One day they say this and one they say this and sometimes never even follow up on somethings I'm almost done with them
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yep that i am
HTC 4 life!
(unless Sony)
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HTC 4 life!
(unless Sony)
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HTC Nexus maybe
I might be switching from HTC to Samsung one the s4 drops even tho my first Android was an HTC inspire the vivid now this, sketchy thing about the vivid was having to do the wire trick just to gain soff
Only thing I really like about HTC now is the camera and is features
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a box of kittens said:
I'm sorry I feel a little slow but are you talking about the nexus 4? And I'm getting quote fed up with HTC myself despite being a huge fan for a while they've been flip flop on their decisions the past year or so. One day they say this and one they say this and sometimes never even follow up on somethings I'm almost done with them
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Yep, and mine will be here Friday by 3 pm
So htcruu got shut down due to using "HTC" in domain. Beyond that gets grey.
HTC does not want to say "sure you can host RUU's"
But it is a nudge nudge wink wink "if you didnt use the 'HTC' in the domain we would not have got this far".
It would be great if HTC would just say "yes RUU hosting and leaking is fine", but they wont officially say it, but they have NEVER attacked this before.
Anybody remember this statement:
HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. We have heard your voice and starting now, we will allow our bootloader to be unlocked for 2011 models going forward. We plan on releasing the updates that will allow you to unlock your bootloader in the coming months, please keep an eye on this website for more details on which devices will be adding this feature. We are extremely pleased to see the energy and enthusiasm from our fans and loyal customers, and we are excited to see what you are capable of. HTC eagerly anticipates your innovations.
Personally, I will never touch another HTC product again.
Ehh idk. I see why HTC took down the site. They clearly state its because there logo is used and such. Bit I'm hearing good things from Sony. May be my next device. But I just don't like the look of Sony devices. HTC always has nice build quality. And for the record HTC did allow the evitas boot loader to be unlocked. Att locked it up
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RWB2150 said:
Personally, I will never touch another HTC product again.
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I unlocked my Evita via the mentioned htcdev.com method. Whats the problem?
The comments on that blog between James Taylor and other devs are a nice read too
Sony is where it's at.
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Sony is where it's at.
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I'm hesitant to leave HTC because I feel ill miss sense and the camera and the build
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I'm hesitant to leave HTC because I feel ill miss sense and the camera and the build
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I don't use sense.. I don't use LTE.
I prefer aosp camera.
All I'm losing is build quality. Seems like a fair trade to me.
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I have the HD2 right now. Is the Sensation worth the upgrade? There is obviously not the HUGE dev community behind the Sensation in comparison to the HD2...
Easily worth the upgrade due to the much, much newer architecture. Even locked it has *AWESOME* written all over it.
There's no development on Sensation right now, as the means to unlock it has yet to be released.
This is (along with the Evo3D) HTC's new flagship, so it's bound to have proper development in time.
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Easily worth the upgrade due to the much, much newer architecture. Even locked it has *AWESOME* written all over it.
There's no development on Sensation right now, as the means to unlock it has yet to be released.
This is (along with the Evo3D) HTC's new flagship, so it's bound to have proper development in time.
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HTCPedia posted today that the Sensation's bootloader was unlocked, complete with screenshot.
http://htcpedia.com/news/sensation-gets-s-off.html
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HTCPedia posted today that the Sensation's bootloader was unlocked, complete with screenshot.
http://htcpedia.com/news/sensation-gets-s-off.html
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I think he knows. Alpharev unlocked the bootloader, look at his signature
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I think he knows. Alpharev unlocked the bootloader, look at his signature
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I never pay attention to sig's. Maybe I should do so. Haha. But I guess we will have a large dev community behind this phone now?
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I have the HD2 right now. Is the Sensation worth the upgrade? There is obviously not the HUGE dev community behind the Sensation in comparison to the HD2...
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I would suggest you go for the Samsung galaxy s2 unless you are a die hard htc fan
I had a hero and HD7 and thought I d jump ship and see how samsung phones work
Quiet happy , won't say its all goody but you can easily update to new firmware without the need to root via a software called ODIN
Already on 2.3.4 and never been happy..
Also I think the camera is slightly better than sensation
Just my thoughts
If possible go in a store and play with them both, you may get a bit of any idea of which one you fall in love with
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I would suggest you go for the Samsung galaxy s2 unless you are a die hard htc fan
I had a hero and HD7 and thought I d jump ship and see how samsung phones work
Quiet happy , won't say its all goody but you can easily update to new firmware without the need to root via a software called ODIN
Already on 2.3.4 and never been happy..
Also I think the camera is slightly better than sensation
Just my thoughts
If possible go in a store and play with them both, you may get a bit of any idea of which one you fall in love with
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TMobile USA doesn't have the S II yet unfortunately, and to be honest, I'm not sure if they're even getting it. I could get it off NewEgg or eBay but from what I hear, all I will get is Edge, not 4G.
In a few months this phone will have a lot of roms. No need to change.
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In a few months this phone will have a lot of roms. No need to change.
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So wait a bit for the Sensation?
GSII isn't worth it without 3G. If it were on T-Mobile then I would say get it instead of the Sensation. I know I will hang up my Sensation if it ever gets to T-Mobile.
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GSII isn't worth it without 3G. If it were on T-Mobile then I would say get it instead of the Sensation. I know I will hang up my Sensation if it ever gets to T-Mobile.
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S II is iffy as far as TMobile availability as far as I know. Does anyone have the "official" word?
BTW - From Charm City? I live in Owings Mills.
I like the htc for one thing the camera lens sets in and not flush with the back cover.. I had the gs1 and got scratches on the lens,
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So wait a bit for the Sensation?
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I don't have HD2 or owned one, so i don't know if it's big upgrade. Maybe someone else can answer that. But the Sensation and the EVO3D are the 2 new flagships of HTC. So there is a good chance there will be a huge community, and a lot of roms and other stuff for both of them.
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I don't have HD2 or owned one, so i don't know if it's big upgrade. Maybe someone else can answer that. But the Sensation and the EVO3D are the 2 new flagships of HTC. So there is a good chance there will be a huge community, and a lot of roms and other stuff for both of them.
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Well HD2 only has 7 meg HSDPA, and a single core processor...
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S II is iffy as far as TMobile availability as far as I know. Does anyone have the "official" word?
BTW - From Charm City? I live in Owings Mills.
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Im not sure about the GSII but everyone knows about the Hercules. It might have a 4,5 inch display and a different chipset but nobody is really sure yet. Its actually rumored to have the Adreno 220 which will probably be a lot faster than it is on the Sensation due to the ****ty HTC drivers and not having a UI with useless eye candy.
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Well HD2 only has 7 meg HSDPA, and a single core processor...
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Maybe so, but it all depends on how u use the phone. If all the apps and games are still running good, why upgrade. That would be my thought. It's all personal.
But if you want to upgrade, because you want to download stuff a second faster or load apps/games a second faster, or whatever reason, this phone will be a nice upgrade.
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Maybe so, but it all depends on how u use the phone. If all the apps and games are still running good, why upgrade. That would be my thought. It's all personal.
But if you want to upgrade, because you want to download stuff a second faster or load apps/games a second faster, or whatever reason, this phone will be a nice upgrade.
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Yeah, I mean the HD2 supports 7 meg HSDPA, but I usually get about 2...The thing that attracts me, is the better camera, and dual core CPU.
I was using an Android flashed HD2 up until I dropped it last week and shattered the screen. I had ordered a new digitizer from fleabay but when it arrived it was damaged so I got impatient and ordered a new Sensation instead. I just got it today and, even though I was more than happy with the HD2 and had no plans to upgrade, I have to say I'm very glad I did. The HD2 was is a very awesome phone but after using the Sensation it now feels like it was v rough around the edges. The Sensation is silky smooth - and that's while we're still running on stock!!
I say upgrade. You'll not regret it.
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I was using an Android flashed HD2 up until I dropped it last week and shattered the screen. I had ordered a new digitizer from fleabay but when it arrived it was damaged so I got impatient and ordered a new Sensation instead. I just got it today and, even though I was more than happy with the HD2 and had no plans to upgrade, I have to say I'm very glad I did. The HD2 was is a very awesome phone but after using the Sensation it now feels like it was v rough around the edges. The Sensation is silky smooth - and that's while we're still running on stock!!
I say upgrade. You'll not regret it.
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Thanks for the input. And with TMobile planning to upgrade nationwide network speeds, maybe it's not a bad idea. Part of me still wants to wait to see if I can get the Galaxy S II...
Decisions decisions....
I've gone from HD2 > Sensation. Got the HD2 as soon as it came out.
The Sensation is fantastic...a huge leap from the HD2...obviously much faster/slicker...much nice to look at and hold, screen is so much better than the HD2 it's not funny.
Development will come soon
I get frustrated with HTC and AT&T and think about jumping ship, but now that I've had my 1X for a while, I just couldn't bear to give up the camera and associated app (mainly burst mode & the ability to take hi res stills while recording HD video).
I just wondered how many people felt the same and/or what that special feature is for you? Do you wish it was available on other phones? Or from other OEMs?
Billy
1. I hope you are not serious when you say you couldnt live without a phone
2. There is a Q&A section, maybe you need to address your questions there
3. See a doctor if #1 is true
JeepFreak said:
I get frustrated with HTC and AT&T and think about jumping ship, but now that I've had my 1X for a while, I just couldn't bear to give up the camera and associated app (mainly burst mode & the ability to take hi res stills while recording HD video).
I just wondered how many people felt the same and/or what that special feature is for you? Do you wish it was available on other phones? Or from other OEMs?
Billy
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sammy's gs3.... seriously...i cant tell which camera is better...between both..
with a good case...gs3 feels right...(source: my gf)
Couldn't live without the speed, screen and camera. I've also grown fond of LTE..
Oh and nandroid on the s4 is incredible..
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I Love
i absolutely love my One X, I don't think I could ever go without it. I love the camera and the speed. It was a little frustrating to deal with multitasking for a while but they sent out the update and fixed quickly. This is the kind of phone that looks like it had a lot of thought that went into designing it.
There were many times where I expected people to start jumping ship when it came to HTC, although I think they have redeemed themselves. HTC was releasing too many cheap phones too frequently. They needed to stop and focus on one phone or one series. This could not have payed of better for them.
For me the biggest thing is phone quality, it doesn't feel cheap and looks SO VERY SEXYYYYYY!
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speed. The speed on this thing is ridiculous. Oh and reading books on the train with it. rooting it (always reads wrong)
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sammy's gs3.... seriously...i cant tell which camera is better...between both..
with a good case...gs3 feels right...(source: my gf)
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Couldn't agree more. I'm still trying to decide which phone I want to keep. They are both awesome. I've been using the GS3 for a few days and its a great phone. I tried to go back to the HOX for a bit but I couldn't get data for some reason.
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Htc phone quality i dont believe needed redeeming. They have always offered amazing build quality. HTC, as a company needs redeeming, and this device has only sunk them deeper in that matter. Just mho.
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Couldn't live without the speed, screen and camera. I've also grown fond of LTE..
Oh and nandroid on the s4 is incredible..
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+1
Video recording in hd is excellent as well.
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Htc phone quality i dont believe needed redeeming. They have always offered amazing build quality. HTC, as a company needs redeeming, and this device has only sunk them deeper in that matter. Just mho.
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Why?
You guys are are too materialistic. I would be completely fine without my one x even though i like and use it a lot. I'll just move onto a different phone.
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Why?
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HTC was known for supporting their customers and thriving for the development that was made outside their walls. They their customer support and open source support along side their amazing devices set them apart from the other manufacturers. They made it clear publicly that they do, and will support us. With no more of a warning than a punch in the back of our heads they took that away. They sent out the hox and the Evo lte with a MUCH increased security. The devs went to work and accomplished a lot of feats to open the devices up. Now, this part of the journey was frustrating enough, and many attempts were made to reach out and let htc know how we felt as customers and nobody got anything more than 1pre written response. Written so any joe could open up and see their customers voice and simply hit a auto reply without even finishing reading what the customer had to say.
To put the icing on the cake, to really make that sucker punch they gave us into baseball bat they did what i believe was their lowest of all time. They took us, the same developer community they supported, applauded and learned from and used our work to cutoff all the exploits that were there. Unlocking exploits, rooting exploits they killed them. They even implemented new securities on developments that were being explored. EXPLORED. So, that is my opinion and my feelings on the issue. Thats why i could care less to see them file bankruptcy and disappear. They obviously could care less about me. Like i said its MHO i dont care who agrees or disagrees. Ive moved on to other manufacturers but remain active in trying to help this community.
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Well said.
I feel the same way about a lot of companies. Up until Apple's style of suing people I stayed pretty neutral in the android vs Apple thing. Now I'm looking to sell my Apple computer and replace every product even linked to them. Now that HTC is following a certain ****y path with security and developer support I'm thinking about doing something similar. I choose with my money and if HTC won't give me the experience I want them I'll let someone else take up the job. Maybe that new rumored nexus?
We'll see HTC.. we'll see
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I feel the same way about a lot of companies. Up until Apple's style of suing people I stayed pretty neutral in the android vs Apple thing. Now I'm looking to sell my Apple computer and replace every product even linked to them. Now that HTC is following a certain ****y path with security and developer support I'm thinking about doing something similar. I choose with my money and if HTC won't give me the experience I want them I'll let someone else take up the job. Maybe that new rumored nexus?
We'll see HTC.. we'll see
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I'm predicting htc will enter bankruptcy within a year. The mighty have fallen. The one x is a terrific phone but at&t ruined it.
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You guys are are too materialistic. I would be completely fine without my one x even though i like and use it a lot. I'll just move onto a different phone.
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And you're too literal! Christ man, I was just trying to fit the question in a limited amount of space.
Of course I could live without my HOX! I've got a Nexus 7 now!
Billy
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I'm predicting htc will enter bankruptcy within a year. The mighty have fallen. The one x is a terrific phone but at&t ruined it.
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Not a chance.. this has upset a handful of people at most. RIM might be gone.. but not HTC
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I feel the same way about a lot of companies. Up until Apple's style of suing people I stayed pretty neutral in the android vs Apple thing. Now I'm looking to sell my Apple computer and replace every product even linked to them. Now that HTC is following a certain ****y path with security and developer support I'm thinking about doing something similar. I choose with my money and if HTC won't give me the experience I want them I'll let someone else take up the job. Maybe that new rumored nexus?
We'll see HTC.. we'll see
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Agreed. I think choosing with our money is the only way...since HTC obviously does not seem to care about the benefits of this community
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Agreed. I think choosing with our money is the only way...since HTC obviously does not seem to care about the benefits of this community
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of course they care. They fixed the stupid 3 dot menu thing, thanks to us.
@chrisch1974 @baadnwz @mdeejay_ru @Elegancia_Pyra @shnizlon @showp1984 HTC is shutting down sites with #HTCRUU please RT
Seems htc is shutting down site's with htcruu's
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@chrisch1974 @baadnwz @mdeejay_ru @Elegancia_Pyra @shnizlon @showp1984 HTC is shutting down sites with #HTCRUU please RT
Seems htc is shutting down site's with htcruu's
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Very interesting
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Man are they crazy...
So that's where football went...
Slithered from my HTC One X+
Yeah lose the site and then lose the customers...nice strategy for 2013.
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They seem to care a lot about their dev community.. oh wait
Success was drawn out in a clear path for HTC after their recent downfall simple..micro ad bigger battery or at least removable battery kinder to the dev community...
And stop releasing ten dam phones a year
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So that's where football went...
Slithered from my HTC One X+
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im guessing so but i think he is back under another name
Could have been taken down because of the domain name.
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Just a little announcement: www.htcruu.com has been taken down by HTC.
First we lost our beloved Football and now this.
What will be next?
UPDATE: For the time being, BugsyLawson will be hosting the RUU's for both EndeavorU and Evita. Thank him here!
Grab the RUU's here:
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UPDATE#2: Site is back up at a different domain: Http://ruu.androidfiles.org
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Slithered from my HTC One X+
Lol no phone company likes devs, they blame everything on us....... They give us the bare minimal ( all of them Samsung, HTC, etc) they couldn't care less if less than 5% of the people who buy their phones: want to mod, flash a custom, unlock, etc. We are the minority they will always cater to the majority and companies first. ( ATT one x still can't be "officially" unlocked) HTC locked down by att, Verizon has( had) Samsung locked down. There in it together lol. They send people to the forums and take (steal) ideas then sell them. Such as with the one x and its remap of the recent button for menu. HTC didn't think of that s+++ did anyone on xda get credit for it when it was released in future software updates? No.
So to think carriers or manufacturers would care if none of bought a phone from them again is off the mark.
They make me emotional.... End soap box..
That's all I have to say about manufacturers and phone companies.
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At the end of the day if you aren't up for the cat and mouse game buy a nexus.
My next device will almost certainly be a nexus device.
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At the end of the day if you aren't up for the cat and mouse game buy a nexus.
My next device will almost certainly be a nexus device.
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Only one guaranteed. Samsung already released a statement saying from now on they will scrutinize future software updates even closer for their devices saying a decision will be made by looking at the phone age, specs, compatibility with touch wiz, etc.
Some say they already do this and its obvious they do. All this statement by them did was tell its customers they can no longer "expect" every android update that drops.
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At the end of the day if you aren't up for the cat and mouse game buy a nexus.
My next device will almost certainly be a nexus device.
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Same here bro... Same here.... Love love love HTC phones... I will never go with a Samsung, i can't stand them. However I'm not fond of the idea of jumping through hoops to customize my own device with HTC, and the biggest turn off is having to flash boot.img every time I flash a Rom.. (sometimes 3-4 times a day ) looks like every new HTC device will implement this torture.... *sighs*
Like wtf
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Many roms are like viper are able to flash the boot without using the computer. Some people seem to say it doesn't work for them though.
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Many roms are like viper are able to flash the boot without using the computer. Some people seem to say it doesn't work for them though.
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that's just some bypass with aroma.. but still, we shouldn't have to use fastboot for anything, except unlocking our bootloader, and simple adb commands, and flashing recovery.. each update plugs another hole
2.20 firmware - all exploits closed (besides drjbliss')
1.14 hboot.. fastboot to flash a kernel.. really?
2.14 hboot.. kernel write protection on the system (bypass found, but still no kernel source) + fastboot flash.. ok?
let's not forget having to spoof our CID to unlock the boot loader (AT&T) <---- Verizon does this too, like with the Droid DNA
Oh, and s-on
I'm out when the "nexus 5" (dub) drops, and I probably won't consider HTC ever again.. However, the HOX was a great investment over any other android or an iPhone 5.. But I can't take it anymore.. even if I wasn't a dev, I'd be fed up with it
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This is why I am tempted to jump over the the nexus 4 right now, while I am still considering waiting to see what the GS IV will bring, if Samsung decides to lock it down, I will be buying the nexus 4 right away and never buying another non nexus phone again.
I got the One X after owning the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus. I have to admit Iwas a little shocked once I realized how much they lock these phones down. Even though I am with Rogers, and allowed to unlock the bootloader through HTCdev, it still bothers me that any HBOOT update could screw over my ability to flash things like radios or having to use fast boot to flash kernels. I don't want to be told how I can use my phone.
It would be like buying a new laptop with windows installed and finding out that I was locked out of formatting the hard drive, and couldn't install Linux, and then finding out that the bios was set up to only work with that hard drive and couldn't be swapped out.
No one would think about locking gown a computer like that, why do they want to do it with phones.
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Kindatired said:
This is why I am tempted to jump over the the nexus 4 right now, while I am still considering waiting to see what the GS IV will bring, if Samsung decides to lock it down, I will be buying the nexus 4 right away and never buying another non nexus phone again.
I got the One X after owning the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus. I have to admit Iwas a little shocked once I realized how much they lock these phones down. Even though I am with Rogers, and allowed to unlock the bootloader through HTCdev, it still bothers me that any HBOOT update could screw over my ability to flash things like radios or having to use fast boot to flash kernels. I don't want to be told how I can use my phone.
It would be like buying a new laptop with windows installed and finding out that I was locked out of formatting the hard drive, and couldn't install Linux, and then finding out that the bios was set up to only work with that hard drive and couldn't be swapped out.
No one would think about locking gown a computer like that, why do they want to do it with phones.
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I'd wait for the rumored nexus 5 to drop.
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Trademark infringment due to Htc in name. Nothing to do with hosting ruu's
InflatedTitan said:
Same here bro... Same here.... Love love love HTC phones... I will never go with a Samsung, i can't stand them. However I'm not fond of the idea of jumping through hoops to customize my own device with HTC, and the biggest turn off is having to flash boot.img every time I flash a Rom.. (sometimes 3-4 times a day ) looks like every new HTC device will implement this torture.... *sighs*
Like wtf
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Why no love for Samsung phones?
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According to Koush on his G+ apparently the AT&T and Verizon S4 will be bootloader locked. Whilst the Verizon one probably will be the AT&T one would be a shock. I can't imagine this is true as the other galaxy devices on AT&T haven't been but I thought I'd let people know if this is the case I imagine it will be bypassed .
UPDATE: according to the engadget review they contacted Samsung who confirmed the s4 is bootloader locked. http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/24/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/
UPDATE2: according to many sources one being Steve Kondik on he G+ the AT&T S4 is bootloader locked.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100275307499530023476/posts/b4AqTzzVKVS
ste1164 said:
According to Koush on his G+ apparently the AT&T and Verizon S4 will be bootloader locked. Whilst the Verizon one probably will be the AT&T one would be a shock. I can't imagine this is true as the other galaxy devices on AT&T haven't been but I thought I'd let people know if this is the case I imagine it will be bypassed .
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I don't think we should be all that concerned if this is true. I am coming from the HTC One X, which was rooted on day 1 on XDA and the bootloader was unlocked on day 3 or day 4 on XDA. If it is locked, it is only a matter of time.
if its locked im pretty sure adam will be more than willing to help unlock it like he did for the vzw s3 and note2 considering his main carrier is att
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rsmolen said:
I don't think we should be all that concerned if this is true. I am coming from the HTC One X, which was rooted on day 1 on XDA and the bootloader was unlocked on day 3 or day 4 on XDA. If it is locked, it is only a matter of time.
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completely different than a htc. they are in no way locked the same way the htc unlock was basically a bypass of how htcdev worked. this will actually take hardware level scanning etc. and then finding an exploit somewhere in the bootloader or the pit
Wait, what? Link?
Yeah, where are you getting your information?
EDIT: Sorry, just saw the line about Koush on G+.
If true its going back and ill pick up the htc one or just keep my note 2.
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If true its going back and ill pick up the htc one or just keep my note 2.
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Now thats a bit drastic lol. By no means does this mean, if its true, that it wouldnt be unlockable very shortly. I'd just like to read something about it though.
I love rumors that people randomly make up.
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Now thats a bit drastic lol. By no means does this mean, if its true, that it wouldnt be unlockable very shortly. I'd just like to read something about it though.
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I guess its just me but i cant do phones that dont have root. But i heard this a week ago on android central too that the verizon & at&t models will be locked up. I was hoping it was wrong.
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If true its going back and ill pick up the htc one or just keep my note 2.
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if the bootloader is locked you'll go to HTC Lololololol - you are aware that HTC locks all their bootloaders right?and if you wanna flash roms on the go you have to also s-off the device...otherwise you will need a computer for every Rom flash...or flashimagegui.apk if it supports your phone. And lately HTC s-off has required hardware tampering like my HTC vivid...you literally to short the phone while running a program with a wire...HTC is the worst android company (nice phones tho...) But they just lock everything down so hard
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if the bootloader is locked you'll go to HTC Lololololol - you are aware that HTC locks all their bootloaders right?and if you wanna flash roms on the go you have to also s-off the device...otherwise you will need a computer for every Rom flash...or flashimagegui.apk if it supports your phone. And lately HTC s-off has required hardware tampering like my HTC vivid...you literally to short the phone while running a program with a wire...HTC is the worst android company (nice phones tho...) But they just lock everything down so hard
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Im thinking about grabbing the GS4 on my other line, which I'm sure i will...I already bought a few cases for it.. But anyways, I currently have the HTC One and its unlocked and rooted and I can flash roms on the go. I can also flash international roms as they also work on the ATT HTC One with no issues. And for everyone that likes CM, it was posted on G+ that almost the entire CM team grabbed a HTC One.
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if the bootloader is locked you'll go to HTC Lololololol - you are aware that HTC locks all their bootloaders right?and if you wanna flash roms on the go you have to also s-off the device...otherwise you will need a computer for every Rom flash...or flashimagegui.apk if it supports your phone. And lately HTC s-off has required hardware tampering like my HTC vivid...you literally to short the phone while running a program with a wire...HTC is the worst android company (nice phones tho...) But they just lock everything down so hard
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Koush said he had a source I do not know who it is & the HTC One is open after you use HTC Dev. The only disadvantage being you can't hide the fact you have done it until you get S-Off. Older HTC devices I agree flashing the boot.img on the One X was very annoying but the one isn't like this.
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Koush said he had a source I do not know who it is & the HTC One is open after you use HTC Dev. The only disadvantage being you can't hide the fact you have done it until you get S-Off. Older HTC devices I agree flashing the boot.img on the One X was very annoying but the one isn't like this.
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Well thank god HTC finally has started to get the idea of what android is all about-great to know you no longer have to flash the boot.IMG separately
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Wow I'm glad I never got an htc. I did hear they locked all bootloaders. I also heard that all verizon phones have locked bootloaders not too sure if that is true. But All I know is I have had the galaxy s, the galaxy 2 and 3 and the galaxy note 2. And oh yea then there was my first android phone the g2x (I wonder why I almost forgot about that one) I got to say I love my note2 it kicks ass and it sounds funny but my favorite was the s2 I don't know why but I just love that phone. Right now I am using the s3 because I dropped my note2. Its a nice phone but just not as good as the others. Plus its a picky processor. Unfortunately I regret the fact that I will not be getting an s4 because I am going to be tied up medically for the next year or so by the time I am around there will probably be an s5 or note 3 or 4 if they even go that far with them. Or who knows maybe samsung will start a new flagship. Sorry to go off topic fellas
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Wow I'm glad I never got an htc. I did hear they locked all bootloaders. I also heard that all verizon phones have locked bootloaders not too sure if that is true. But All I know is I have had the galaxy s, the galaxy 2 and 3 and the galaxy note 2. And oh yea then there was my first android phone the g2x (I wonder why I almost forgot about that one) I got to say I love my note2 it kicks ass and it sounds funny but my favorite was the s2 I don't know why but I just love that phone. Right now I am using the s3 because I dropped my note2. Its a nice phone but just not as good as the others. Plus its a picky processor. Unfortunately I regret the fact that I will not be getting an s4 because I am going to be tied up medically for the next year or so by the time I am around there will probably be an s5 or note 3 or 4 if they even go that far with them. Or who knows maybe samsung will start a new flagship. Sorry to go off topic fellas
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The S2 was a perfect phone for the time. It's also been my favorite Android phone ever...but hopefully the S4 takes that title soon.
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Im thinking about grabbing the GS4 on my other line, which I'm sure i will...I already bought a few cases for it.. But anyways, I currently have the HTC One and its unlocked and rooted and I can flash roms on the go. I can also flash international roms as they also work on the ATT HTC One with no issues. And for everyone that likes CM, it was posted on G+ that almost the entire CM team grabbed a HTC One.
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While yes Steve Kondik himself got the AT&T HTC One... He also said he's going to carry both the S4 and the One in his review of the One. That being said... HTC has pissed away their chances with me. The One in my humble opinion is fugly, and the thing feels like a cheap toy.. I'm way more impressed by the build quality of my Nexus 4 or Optimus G.. Also I love having the ability to swap out the battery something I've missed having sold my S3 as well as the fact it has an SD card slot.. But that's just my opinion..
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While yes Steve Kondik himself got the AT&T HTC One... He also said he's going to carry both the S4 and the One in his review of the One. That being said... HTC has pissed away their chances with me. The One in my humble opinion is fugly, and the thing feels like a cheap toy.. I'm way more impressed by the build quality of my Nexus 4 or Optimus G.. Also I love having the ability to swap out the battery something I've missed having sold my S3 as well as the fact it has an SD card slot.. But that's just my opinion..
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Same here. I'm absolutely done with HTC as a company after the Raider.
Who'd have thought that my decision to go with them because of solidly built devices and a good out-of-box experience would go so awry? Here I come, crawling back to Samsung (had an SGS1 previously).
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Same here. I'm absolutely done with HTC as a company after the Raider.
Who'd have thought that my decision to go with them because of solidly built devices and a good out-of-box experience would go so awry? Here I come, crawling back to Samsung (had an SGS1 previously).
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The Nexus One was a great device, and I loved it.. But I've been quite disappointed with HTC ever since.. I like to give every company a fair shot, The One X (international version) was the last straw for me.. To be completely honest.. IF the Sony Xperia Z or ZL had the snapdragon 600 chipset, I would most likely be getting one instead. I can't justify spending more on that device with an older chipset for more money off contract. S4 is $639 before taxes.. Though I do have a Premier acct, so I'm going to TRY to get them to give me the $100 discount as well.. Never hurts to ask, ended up getting my launch date S3 for $49.99 after they matched Best Buy, and gave me the premier discount.. It's all in whom you talk to...
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Well thank god HTC finally has started to get the idea of what android is all about-great to know you no longer have to flash the boot.IMG separately
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Yeah agreed that was stupid.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/24/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/ looks like Koush was right samsung confirmed it in engadgets review.
HTC have confirmed that the one s will receive no further updates. Rip the one s. Personally I think its shocking that a one year old phone is left out in the cold. And I certainly won't be buying a HFC phone again.
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Htc are ****ing stupid!!! The galaxy s2 is still getting updates!! I predict they will go bankrupt within the next year. If they do no one will miss them they need to get their **** together.
Given the lack of support since day 1 I am not really surprised. Failing MAO coating, helicoptering, battery drain.... And now only 6 months of software support. And still they wonder why customers are leaving?
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HTC have confirmed that the one s will receive no further updates.
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Source? A few weeks ago they said something different.
Anyway. After the helicoptering disaster I already knew that my next smartphone would not be made by HTC.
There is a feature story on Engadget "We can confirm that the HTC One S will not receive further Android OS updates and will remain on the current version of Android and HTC Sense. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed the HTC One S to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences." This was a press statement released by HTC.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/02/htc-confirms-one-s-will-no-longer-receive-android-updates/
Here u go guys
Rip one s
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I doesn't stop to function.
I just got this phone a little over a week ago and it's already killed off like it didn't exist. I was really rooting for HTC but this is just downright f***ed up. Here, I thought HTC learned a lesson and was actually going to change their ways but i guess not
Sad to see them going this way but that's why I stopped buying HTC phones if Samsung can update the galaxy s2 but HTC can't update their phone it doesn't instill a lot of trust in them for future phones
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Sad to see them going this way but that's why I stopped buying HTC phones if Samsung can update the galaxy s2 but HTC can't update their phone it doesn't instill a lot of trust in them for future phones
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I agree. I mean when a two year old Samsung Galaxy S II has a newer version of a one year old HTC One S, it really shows you how much they care about their customers and also, they clearly said earlier in the year that they would update the One S, One X, X+, and Butterfly to 4.2.
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but the Jelly Bean update sucks as hell
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They always say that they will upgrade existing phones but they ether wait to long to do it or they then say they can't. I loved my HTC phones and that's all I use to buy but, after my sensation I had to jump ship. build quality and lack of up grades made me go to Samsung even though I hate the plastic phones they make
Well we all saw this coming, my next phone won't be a HTC for sure, even tho I've been a HTC fanboy since the nexus one.
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They always say that they will upgrade existing phones but they ether wait to long to do it or they then say they can't. I loved my HTC phones and that's all I use to buy but, after my sensation I had to jump ship. build quality and lack of up grades made me go to Samsung even though I hate the plastic phones they make
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Why didn't you take a Sony then?
I will think twice when I buy my next phone.. dammit, HTC what are you doing!
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My nexus one was the reason I loved HTC's build quality: that phone is still alive after being run over by a car!
It sure is crappy to hear HTC lie about bringing updates, but it still is only one source, while the news of sense 5 coming to the HOS was reiterated quite a few times...
I just hope it's a lie 'cause it's real bad marketing for HTC!!
We started with 4.0 and are now left with 4.1, will the HTC One ever get 4.3?
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1 year support yeah! die htc die!
I can imagine this is happening because the HTC One Mini is being released soon and will be replacing the One S as a mid range phone.
I've had a few HTC phones and been quite happy with them, but this is unacceptable, I will not be supporting HTC anymore. I feel bad I recommended the HTC One to so many people, going to have to tell anyone else who asks to go for the GS4 or Nexus 4 I guess.
I only use custom roms so this isn't really as big of a deal for me as I will probably always be able to get something decent ported, but the principal of them doing this really posses me off. If I didn't want to root my phone I would be kissed off at the lack of support.
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Same thoughts here guys. The One S was superior or equal to the One X and isn't supported anymore after one year. And its updates where delayed from the beginning...
The only reason to introduce plain Android for the One is to cut its sense lifecycle short to at least one year. They think that any fanboy out there will reinvestigate into the latest HTC phone every year and then sell it for the latest model and if you want to keep it longer, you could switch to it's Google play edition. No need to update sense anymore. Let's go for the next model. Imho this thinking made some leading people leave HTC the last months.
As I never was a real lover of sense I started using it with this phone and I have to admit, at least I even started liking it. It turned out to be pretty practical in one way or another.
So I'll keep it for a few more months, just to see what Moto or Sony will come up with in the near future. Samsung never was and is an alternative due to it's el cheapo design. Also that S4 outdoor variant looks pretty good in my eyes.
R.I.P. my beloved One S and f**k you HTC.