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So guys im loving leedroids Rom but jellybean looks amazing and makes the phone a lot faster I'm liking the voice recognition already beating siri but what I'm wondering is that once its released will there be anyway to keep leedroid Rom and have jellybean running on the phone too or do u think leedroid will support jellybean on future updates because right now hes not doing any developments
I havent tried leedroid myself but i can imagine that once jelly bean is released every single developer will try to use that as their base rom. Otherwise no one will bother with it
Leedroid has stopped development tho ;( dunno if or when he will be back and I love his Rom
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I come from using a nexus one, and before that a g1, so I am used to having vanilla android on my phone or at least having the option to have it. I bought the one S when my phone broke down thinking that the htc sense UI would not be such bad thing. However after a few weeks I still can't seem to get used to it and actually have grown to hate it. I installed a rom that doesn't have most of sense but it still doesn't have the same feel. So getting to my question, why isn't there a rom that is just plain ics without sense. Will this ever be available?
Also kind of off topic, but why was sense ever created? I understand that htc wanted to put a twist on android but wouldn't it be enough to create the apps and widgets? I feel like some of the key features of android are lost and for little gain. What is going to happen when jelly bean rolls out? Will one S owners have to wait more while htc tweaks it to work with sense again? I have gotten really used to the hardware aspects of this phone but I am contemplating switching over to a galaxy nexus just for the benefit of having vanilla android and having more development support.
Have you tried CM9 or Paranoid?
kayc said:
I come from using a nexus one, and before that a g1, so I am used to having vanilla android on my phone or at least having the option to have it. I bought the one S when my phone broke down thinking that the htc sense UI would not be such bad thing. However after a few weeks I still can't seem to get used to it and actually have grown to hate it. I installed a rom that doesn't have most of sense but it still doesn't have the same feel. So getting to my question, why isn't there a rom that is just plain ics without sense. Will this ever be available?
Also kind of off topic, but why was sense ever created? I understand that htc wanted to put a twist on android but wouldn't it be enough to create the apps and widgets? I feel like some of the key features of android are lost and for little gain. What is going to happen when jelly bean rolls out? Will one S owners have to wait more while htc tweaks it to work with sense again? I have gotten really used to the hardware aspects of this phone but I am contemplating switching over to a galaxy nexus just for the benefit of having vanilla android and having more development support.
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What the hell do you think CM9, AOKP, and Paranoidandroid roms are????
You sir are a NOOB!
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LikeaG2root said:
What the hell do you think CM9, AOKP, and Paranoidandroid roms are????
You sir are a NOOB!
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They are not AOSP, they are based on it. And heavily modded. This dude just wants AOSP.
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They are not AOSP, they are based on it. And heavily modded. This dude just wants AOSP.
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CM9 isn't aosp???? My phone says otherwise. Willing to bet aokp is too... what are you talking about? CM9 isn't a sense rom dude
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aren't they all based on Sense kernel? which beats the purpose of it all.
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aren't they all based on Sense kernel? which beats the purpose of it all.
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Idk man... I'm new to this phone, but I know my phone is now on Android 4.0.4, and there isn't a single hint of sense ANYWHERE in the ROM. I also had to flash a different kernel so I would be willing to bet its not on the stock kernel
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glacierguy said:
Idk man... I'm new to this phone, but I know my phone is now on Android 4.0.4, and there isn't a single hint of sense ANYWHERE in the ROM. I also had to flash a different kernel so I would be willing to bet its not on the stock kernel
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that differen kernel is still based on a heavy "sensed" one by HTC. easily tested by it's multitasking ability or lack thereof. i don't think anybody "de-sensed" it completely yet.
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CM9, AOKP and Parandroid are not sense Based. Ohe kernel is not sense based. a good example is MIUI, there are 2 MIUI builds, one is AOSP based (based on CM9) and the other one is sense Based.
Want proof by your own? flash CM9 or AOKP and flash a sense kernel on top of it and try to boot the phone. you will get a boot loop.
CM9 is the closest you will get to an AOSP pure vainilla rom since is based on it.
You guys on the first page must be pretty challenged... CM9, AOKP, and PARANOID are based off the the CM9 source. They have NOTHING to do with Sense. The only Sense based ROM (not stock ROMs, IE TrickDroid) is one version of MIUI as it has the stock Sense camera and such...
Sense was created because it's what HTC wanted. Why is there TouchWiz, Moto Blur, or anything else like that? It's because the device manufacturers wanted their own version. Thank the dev team for the option to switch different version of Android... We will only have AOSP ROMs and not ever stock ICS (no mods) ROMs because there is no stock ICS for our device. Only Sense or AOSP.
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What the hell do you think CM9, AOKP, and Paranoidandroid roms are????
You sir are a NOOB!
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That's really funny that you're calling him out when CM is definitely not stock vanilla ics.
So, the easiest answer to this question is because no one, including the OP, has created one yet, if its even possible with what there is to work with.
I'm actually pretty happy with all of the options devs have created for this phone.
only "nexus" phones have vanilla ics
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That's really funny that you're calling him out when CM is definitely not stock vanilla ics.
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Not as funny as you saying CM9 is not aosp. It is built from aosp and made to look look and act like aosp. Don't understand you fools?????
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Not as funny as you saying CM9 is not aosp. It is built from aosp and made to look look and act like aosp. Don't understand you fools?????
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He never said that. Relax, man. The OP is just commenting on how he's tired of Sense and would prefer a more vanilla experience.
Closed Source Project said:
We will only have AOSP ROMs and not ever stock ICS (no mods) ROMs because there is no stock ICS for our device. Only Sense or AOSP.
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What does "stock ICS" actually mean in this context? AOSP is the true Android experience as Google intended, right? So, is stock ICS something else?
So we can get:
AOSP - original;
AOSP - customized;
Sense - original (default)
Sense - customized.
Is this correct?
Wouldn't we be able to get TouchWiz ROMs, for example?
I'm new to flashing ROMs and all, but I've been following the scene for the past few months, and even though I can say I'm among the brighter people, I still have difficulties understanding - mostly - the nomenclature of the scene.
We don't have it because is EVIL. That stupid google search gadget permanently stuck to all pages is ridiculously stupid. Plus indeed a lot of the interface. HTC Sense is like a cool breeze.
well i come from HTC Sensation ROMS, and in that sections there are a lots of "Senseless ROMS" where everything related with sense is removed, except for the camera, and the roms were so smooth and as fast as AOSP ROMS, the feeling was exactly the same,
I hope someone make a senseless rom for HTC One S soon because its really awesome (like a AOSP rom without any bug becaus its based on a sense rom byt without any sense part)
renehd2 said:
well i come from HTC Sensation ROMS, and in that sections there are a lots of "Senseless ROMS" where everything related with sense is removed, except for the camera, and the roms were so smooth and as fast as AOSP ROMS, the feeling was exactly the same,
I hope someone make a senseless rom for HTC One S soon because its really awesome (like a AOSP rom without any bug becaus its based on a sense rom byt without any sense part)
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There are AOSP roms; they are just in the alpha stage of development and rather buggy in some areas. If you want a senseless ROM (as in the actual sense launcher removed), any of the HTC-based roms (including stock, non-rooted phones) can have Sense removed and replaced by any launcher from the market. I've tried the existing AOSP roms, and aside from the bugs... the stripped down HTC-roms as just a quick.
Hi guys,
I tried many ICS roms some sense and other non-sense still all are laggy and no ICS rom is comparable with GB roms especially MIUI.GB .. is that true or I'm missing something here? Is it kernel source for Desire S? I don't think so as Virtuous Saga rom is laggy too
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Virtuous Saga is a leaked ROM, it isn't final and isn't fully polished/tested. Moreover, the kernel and ROM might be running in debug or partial debug mode, dumping lots of data and slowing down the system. The only other stock ICS ROM for testing is the community ROM from chinese OTA, but it doesn't have some of the functionality.
Given proper drivers or kernel adaptation, I don't think there should be any reason for slower ICS performance. One of the causes might be lack of kernel source, and adaptations for older binary drivers that are done to compensate for it. But it's only my opinion, not facts - I can't prove or disprove it.
Hi, have you tried AOKP? I just recently restored my old GB Sense ROM after having used AOKP for the last couple of months, just to see which one feels faster. After just one day I was back on AOKP. :laugh:
ahmedsalahais said:
Hi guys,
I tried many ICS roms some sense and other non-sense still all are laggy and no ICS rom is comparable with GB roms especially MIUI.GB .. is that true or I'm missing something here? Is it kernel source for Desire S? I don't think so as Virtuous Saga rom is laggy too
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My opinion: all ICS ROMs for Desire S are still laggy and baggy in some way I've tried a couple of them and I'm still disappointed We are all hard waiting for HTC to release kernel 3.0 source. After that some problems with speed and stability will be fixed. And after that we'll see is "true" ICS on Desire S faster or not Until now - yes, faster. In my opinion, of course.
I use icecoldsandwitch and like it very much.
Its based on the AOKP rom.
Still a bit laggy but as good as it gets.
I'm kind of a newbie, I just know how to flash roms and what not. Are there currently any roms for the One S that have the look of Sense 5 preferably Android 4.2.2. I have found some but there are way too many bugs. I am big wifi tether user, so I need that and camera to definitely work. Also, what is the newest (stable) rom for the One S?
Most stable Rom are the STOCK ROM......
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No Sense based 4.2.2 because we haven't got the kernel for that working yet. All Sense 5 ROMs have no working Bluetooth or Wi-Fi tether. I wouldn't consider any third party ROM on here as "stable". Closest thing would probably be CyanogenMod 10.1.
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I'm using UnKnown's Rom, it has sense 5 icons, it is stock plus all the stuff he did to it. The battery life is killer. It's as stable as stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250573
As the title states, I would love to see a sense 5 ROM ported from one of the newer Desire series (300,600,700 etc) to our ageing Desire S.
a willing tester here if anyone is up for it.
I can see there is one for the Desire HD which is essentially the same spec as our device.
Regards
Dyno
Dynomutt said:
As the title states, I would love to see a sense 5 ROM ported from one of the newer Desire series (300,600,700 etc) to our ageing Desire S.
a willing tester here if anyone is up for it.
I can see there is one for the Desire HD which is essentially the same spec as our device.
Regards
Dyno
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I really want to do some porting for the Desire S, but I don't have one. I already ported Carbon 4.3, but I had to end that project because of the lack of a testing device. If anyone has a Desire S they don't want anymore and they are willing to donate it to me, you can expect a lot of Desire HD roms to come to the Desire S.
If you want to see my previous work, check out the Nexus One dev forums
Porting sense 5, there is one major problem and thats why id say no one has already tried, sense 5 is jellybean so we would need a new kernel to support sense and jb, im not sure exactly but the main issue would be the kernel and i think @kylon (kernel dev) doesnt have a desire s anymore either and he was prob our best bet for the kernel.
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Porting sense 5, there is one major problem and thats why id say no one has already tried, sense 5 is jellybean so we would need a new kernel to support sense and jb, im not sure exactly but the main issue would be the kernel and i think @kylon (kernel dev) doesnt have a desire s anymore either and he was prob our best bet for the kernel.
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True that. But I could get many other Roms working
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tommypacker said:
True that. But I could get many other Roms working
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yh would be good coz theres not really much happening on the ds recently, most devs have moved on
Why don't you look out for a damaged one and get the parts from parts4repair.com ?
I find the DS one of best repairable devices I know so far.
All you need is a T5 and a PH00 Screwdriver and a guitar pick for some things
If you need some internal repair documents, I can provide you with some.
mygamers seems to be working on a Desire S Sense 5 ROM.
Considering he made a very good Sense 4.1 Lite ROM I am looking forward to his version.
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HTC One SV updated to 4.2.2 with Sense 5
You can use that base
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mygamers said:
Yes
Im working on that
SVHD v5.0.0 with Sense 5..
But i wont share that now...
First I wanna fix all major bugs
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mygamers said:
Yes im working on Sense 5 too
But still i have many problem
Cause im working alone
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Thats a good news....
Likort said:
mygamers seems to be working on a Desire S Sense 5 ROM.
Considering he made a very good Sense 4.1 Lite ROM I am looking forward to his version.
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He hasn't mentioned porting it to the desire s, and seeing as we don't have a kernel capable of running jb+sense, I think it's highly unlikely that it ever will get ported.
Well atleast some ones trying to port.....
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I seen there's an ION capable kernel on the desire HD forum so maybe it's possibe to port it...
There's hope still!
Hope someone do this... Would be very nice!! F**** ION kernel
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it will be even better to make it working on MDDI devices, I dont need a newer device, DS' performance is enough for my needs, but Im stuck with ICS, its like being stuck with Vista on computer and can not upgrade to 7 or 8
what happen to this port , completed or not still not released
rkumbhar said:
what happen to this port , completed or not still not released
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More like not even started. Again, we would a kernel for sense 5 JB, untill then, keep dreaming.