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A2DP

Ok so this is not the only phone that I can see that is wireless everything but does not support A2DP so you can listen to the mp3 player wirelessly??? I have seen that some have updated other units (MDAIII) to use a BT stack from broadcom and I was wondering if it is possible to do it on the sp5? I am guessing that using the broadcom stack does not require BT 1.2 but I am not sure what stack the sp5 is using and where I would get the updates. I am also reading that most that have done an update have mention static if they move around?? Why then would you need BT if you cannot move?? Is this then the V1.1 causing the problem and why it should be on 1.2?? :?

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Ok so I have asked the question about the sp5 & sp5m about A2DP so you can use stereo bluetooth headphones that include player controls and I found some answers.
A2DP only fully works on Bluetooth V1.2 and these units only V1.1. I have seen that some people have installed some third party BT stacks on there BT V1.1 units to get high quality stereo profiles but they do not have player control. Also it may not even be A2DP it may just be a facsimile but more interesting it may be A2DP. When looking at the specs of phones it says Bluetooth V1.1 but does not say which silicon (Chip) is in the unit which is very important because the chips are backwards compatible. Meaning it may be V1.1 but the chip maybe able to run V1.2 because the manufacture just put in V1.1 stack and rom. So we should all be not asking about new stacks and upgrades but first ask which chip is in the units and if it is a V1.2 compatible, then we should start demanding rom and stack upgrades now. As for the chips the V1.2 and more chips have been out for at least 2 years so the manufactures cannot say the release of them postdated their own development date unless they have been hand building the units for the last year and that gave them one year to test.
Well can someone please tell me which or who’s BT chip is in the sp5 and sp5m

You will also find that Microsoft have not written support for this yet into the OS

Funny about the support because for what i know HP ipaq work just fine on A2DP along with other MS units so sombody must be supporting the headphones because there are sure alot of them coming out in the next few months.

HP probably wrote their own drivers.

The chipset should be BT 1.2, and just needs a ROM update
I combed through the TI website, and all the BT chipsets that are used with the OMAP 850 chip(in the Tornado devices, like imate SP5M, etc) are showing BT 1.2 as their spec. I don't know why it's not included, but I know that MS has promised to but out a A2DP update in Spring 2006, so maybe we will see a ROM update from i-Mate/HTC, etc at some point. I know that it is possible, or someone could build/hack their own stack. It least we know it is possible, hardware wise.

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Well can someone please tell me which or who’s BT chip is in the sp5 and sp5m
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The chipset (included in omap850) is:
I2S/AC97 Enhanced Audio Controller (for Voice) and a UART (serial) for data.
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I'm afraid that a 200MHz CPU will not be fast enough to support A2DP.
I'm using A2DP on my XDAII, it REALLY slow down the entire system. That's one with 400MHz CPU! not to mention a 200MHz.

where'd you get a2dp for xda2? been searching the site and the internet for this...

Robson said:
where'd you get a2dp for xda2? been searching the site and the internet for this...
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My XDA II is using 1.62c.07CHS of WM5, which seems to have A2DP built in, even not necessary to install any BT Addon.
You can find more information here: http://www.buzzdev.net/

interesting...i've upgraded my xda2 to wm2005 as well...just have to check if this is the same rom. thanks for the info

ok, do you know where I can get the 1.62c rom in ENGLISH?

some news on qtek rom with a2dp and push email. looks like it may come in feb. if anybody has qtek membership could they check for details.
thanks
http://www.modaco.com/lofiversion/index.php/t234566.html

A2DP on Wizard works well
devilxelloss said:
I'm afraid that a 200MHz CPU will not be fast enough to support A2DP.
I'm using A2DP on my XDAII, it REALLY slow down the entire system. That's one with 400MHz CPU! not to mention a 200MHz.
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I have a T-mobile MDA using the Qtek Test Rom and i use the plantronics Pulsar headset audio quality sounds better than an ipod. I can hear deep bass. I think it is just stupid that HTC hasn't been putting A2DP on the AKU 2.0 update stating it slows the phone way down, etc. I use A2DP while at the gym so, i am not needing to write an email while using it. Well I guess to each there own.

I've got the Qtek Wizard test rom and use it to listen to music on my martian-looking Pulsar 590s, and it slows the bam thing to a crawl. Can't really do anything at the same time.
Bummer really, cos it's not that slow a CPU, just damn sh1t-slow software...
F.

fergusstrachan said:
I've got the Qtek Wizard test rom and use it to listen to music on my martian-looking Pulsar 590s, and it slows the bam thing to a crawl. Can't really do anything at the same time.
Bummer really, cos it's not that slow a CPU, just damn sh1t-slow software...
F.
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Well... I believe there is some kind of data compression mechanism in A2DP protocal. The problem is, maybe some devices have hardware (chip) to do the compression, and some devices let CPU do the job. And I think our Tornado would leave this nasty job to CPU, so it can slow down the phone a lot: COME ON! It's realtime data compression! This job is not suitable for a 200MHz CPU! It's cruelty to CPU.... :twisted:

[Q] has anyone linked a keyboard via usb or bluetooth yet??

im determined to get down to some fallout 1 and 2 on the go on my dhd and iv had a look into the bluetooth keyboard routem just seems a bit much to spend 30 odd gbp on a keyboard online to discover it wont work on my DHD.
Pls someone put me out of my misery and direct me to a bluetooth (or micro usb) keyboard and mouse set up that will work on the DHD
i will be most grateful
meh

How are you playing Fallout 1 and 2!?!?
You will need scripts to get HiD working. N900 can use keyboard and mouse via BT (and USB now) but you need to get scripts, and I'm guessing this would be the same.
Look and see if anyone has it running on Desire or Z. Should be easy to bring them over.

kingoddball said:
How are you playing Fallout 1 and 2!?!?
You will need scripts to get HiD working. N900 can use keyboard and mouse via BT (and USB now) but you need to get scripts, and I'm guessing this would be the same.
Look and see if anyone has it running on Desire or Z. Should be easy to bring them over.
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This is my point I'M NOT PLAYING IT YET but this is down to the fact I have no keyboard or mouse yet. And as for how I would run the Games I wud use a dos box style emulator then play the Games. Th insides of the dhd specs show up as good as my mums desktop which I play fallout on so I imagine if u can get doom ported to Android fallout will be no buggy either. Can u imagine the joy of long train journeys with fallout to keep u occupied. As for the second paragraph of ur post I have no idea about any of that stuff. I have seen a MINI bt keyboard saying it is desire Hd compatible but until its confirmed I ain't parting with my cash.
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ANYONE?????
lol i just cannot find anywhere to find what im looking for................

What;s the point of a keyboard?

thetmyster said:
What;s the point of a keyboard?
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That isn't a very intelligent question. The point is to type. Probable to be able to write a lot, like note taking during a meeting of something.
I would surely buy when if one would be out.

Check this web site my friend
http://www.mymobilegear.com/
I've connected my gaming pad successfully to DHD
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Cyanogen includes a program called Bluekeyboard JP
I have used my logitech bluetooth keyboard with mouse trackpad designed for the PS3 with it before.
Detects it as an HID device and gives a keyboard option in input settings. Works farely well.
I have tried all the other bluetooth keyboard apps in the market and none of them enabled me to use it until I used cyanogen.
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MrKaon said:
Check this web site my friend
http://www.mymobilegear.com/
I've connected my gaming pad successfully to DHD
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Thanks matey that's interesting to know I checked the compatability log and saw no android support although there was threads on android driver support. What did you have to do to enable the device and what is the emulator I see people speak of that it uses? Is it a dose emu?? Also what games have u played using it and how is the response of it?
Thanks again
Meh
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mehmehmen said:
Thanks matey that's interesting to know I checked the compatability log and saw no android support although there was threads on android driver support. What did you have to do to enable the device and what is the emulator I see people speak of that it uses? Is it a dose emu?? Also what games have u played using it and how is the response of it?
Thanks again
Meh
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have a look here my friend:
http://www.androlib.com/android.developer.mymobilegear-com-jiBD.aspx
of course they have android support, as you can see in above link, they publish two driver, one for bluetooth keyboard and one for bluetooth gamepad (MSI BGP100, Zeemote JS1)
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when ever I want to play some PSX games, I use BGP100
it is lovely and I've completely satisfied with result
this is step by step guide to how to connect game pad to android device:
http://mgowen.com/2010/06/18/bgp100-android/

Using Freedom Pro Bluetooth keyboard with DHD
To original poster for this thread,
http://www.htcdesirehdforum.com/htc...tooth-keyboard-for-android/new/?topicseen#new
Australian poster in the above thread maintains she has got this keyboard to work. I have not bought one yet so cannot confirm that it works myself.
See item here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Freedom-Pro...IWJ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1294377170&sr=8-1
Good luck
M

Thanks Midgeslayer, that looks very cool. Just friggen expensive in South Africa. Just under $200

The safest option would be I'd say using a BT Keyboard like the Freedom Pro or maybe trying out Bluetooth JP or other software on another BT Keyboard.
The cheapest way if you don't own a bluetooth keyboard would be to use a USB Keyboard and create an adaptor or USB Dongle as follows. Again I'm still too nervous about this. If someone with a better understanding of electronics and the Desire HD could explain to me if solderding up this USB Dongle which shorts a pin on the USB connector is safe then I'll do it... The parts can be bought from dealextreme.com or ebay for next to nothing. Mini USB Keybaords are also very cheap.
Here's the link:
http://gigaom.com/mobile/how-to-add-a-usb-keyboard-to-an-android-phone/
Which do you think would be better for saving battery, a USB keyboard or a Bluetooth keyboard? I am wondering if any real difference as I am planning on doing this for full days of lectures and typing notes.

Possible Blueinput solution
I can't say about the DHD, but you might like to check at the teksoftco forum
I am running their Blueinput driver with an Apple Wifi Keyboard on a Nexus One v 2.2.1 OK. Only snag for me is that the keyboard has a Norwegian layout and Blueinput treats it as a US one..
Mvh

According to their website Orange UK are about to offer the freedom universal bluetooth keyboard for a measly £7. Does anyone know if this version of the keyboard is compatible with the DHD in the same way as the Freedom Pro?

[Q] Sensation and Bluetooth keyboard?

Anyone who has one, have you tried a BT keyboard out yet? I have a DHD which doesn't support one but was hoping the Sensation, with BT3, would.
Any information appreciated.
Dave

Hmmm. I know there aren't too many Sensations in the wild yet but I thought that someone might have tried a BT keyboard by now.... Is there any way to know if the BT 'HID' profile is on the phone? I believe that's the profile needed for a keyboard.
Any comments on this driver ... https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mymobilegear ... ? Seems to have mixed reviews in the market.
Also, what's the general consensus on BT with the Sensation for headsets and music streaming to, say, a car head unit? Any problems seen as yet? I ask as none of the reviews I've seen mention BT except to say 'it's supported'.
Thanks
Dave

Can't comment on Bluetooth keyboards, but i have used it in my car paired with my Sony car stereo and it works fine. Think that is using the Bluetooth headphone profile.

narse said:
Can't comment on Bluetooth keyboards, but i have used it in my car paired with my Sony car stereo and it works fine. Think that is using the Bluetooth headphone profile.
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Thanks for that. Been doing some more digging to try to find out about keyboards. Seems my current phone "should" support a keyboard like the Freedom Pro which supports the SPP profile (also used for keyboards, as is the HID profile). See ... http://www.apt8h.com/Computer/Elect...st-foldable-bluetooth-keyboards-reviewed.html ... for a review and more details.
Then I had one of those doh!!! moments and checked HTCs website for the Sensation at ... http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/specification.html ... and down under Bluetooth we find ...
"... Bluetooth® 3.0
A2DP for wireless stereo headsets
FTP and OPP (object push) for file transfer
PBAP for phonebook access from the car kit
Other supported profiles: AVRCP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HID, HSP, MAP, SPP, SDAP ..."
Seems I answered my own question However, the proof of the pudding and all that .... it'd still be interesting to find someone who'd had one working ...
Ta
Dave

My apple keyboard connected to my sgs which came bt 3.0 stock. I'll try when it drops next week here in the states.

ntellegence said:
My apple keyboard connected to my sgs which came bt 3.0 stock. I'll try when it drops next week here in the states.
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That'd be great. Just to clarify though, I don't think it's the BT 3 that's the issue as prior BT levels had the HID profile with other phones. I think BT 3 itself is more about power savings. Why HTC decided to add the HID profile to this release, arther than earlier, is anyones guess. Be interesting to know that as well though .....
Dave

Any news guys? Got an MHL adapter the other day and want to use my phone almost as a light PC on my living room TV.

sorry that im late to the game guys but have tested an logitech mx5500 bt keyboard with my sensation and it works absolutely like a dream using bluezime or similar as this didn't work with the desire at all i hope that this answers every ones question about will a bt keyb work

Didn't see this thread as well.
I'm getting the i-Tech virtual bt kb that I used back in the day under the symbian platform on Sony Ericsson's but found that I can get the driver under mymobilegear.com to use the virtual kb again. I am stoked at this and report back if it works or not lol...

kpjimmy said:
Didn't see this thread as well.
I'm getting the i-Tech virtual bt kb that I used back in the day under the symbian platform on Sony Ericsson's but found that I can get the driver under mymobilegear.com to use the virtual kb again. I am stoked at this and report back if it works or not lol...
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You should try the bluezime from the market, It's completely free and comes with a data dump(perfect for 90% of devices

Nickedynick said:
Any news guys? Got an MHL adapter the other day and want to use my phone almost as a light PC on my living room TV.
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mhl+keyb is amazing just wish i could get the zeemote js1 to work, constantly asks me to enter a passcode into the zeemote itself, which ofcourse only has 4 buttons no numerical input :\ silly htc with their bt stack problems, hey at least keyboards work now XD

gladms said:
You should try the bluezime from the market, It's completely free and comes with a data dump(perfect for 90% of devices
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Thanks I'll try it when I get the kb and report back.

So, final verdict? Which keyboard should one get if they want a mini keyboard that can fit in ones pockets?
Someone recommended me the Bluetooth mini keyboard. I want something small without paying the premium price of the Dinovo Mini

My Rii mini bluetooth keyboard works flawlessly with my Sensation. You don't need to install anything just search for devices and connect

bluezimie didn't work. Using keypro and so far so good.

i-Tech VKB and keypro
Update:
Been using the i-tech vkb for a day and so far ok for what it is. This virtual keyboard is what I remember it is to be since I used it with my old MW600 by Sony Ericsson running Symbian OS.
The app works great with this kb. Of course there will be miskeys due to the spacing of the kb and where your finger is pressed, but I get that anyway using the onscreen kb lol....
Anyway here are some pics I snapped. I know it's pretty bright in here. It's 105 here today! There's bound to be "SOME" sun lol
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Bastaerd said:
My Rii mini bluetooth keyboard works flawlessly with my Sensation. You don't need to install anything just search for devices and connect
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Could you tell me what model you have please I would like to get one. Thank you.
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[Q] [REQ] Bluetooth protocols required to pair SixAxis Controller

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http://youtu.be/bGulIF85SnM​
Wondering if there is any way to easily add-on / flash the 'required protocols' needed to pair a rooted Sensation with a SixAxis controller.
I downloaded the compatibility app to check, and it said the Bluetooth 'required protocols' were missing.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to pair a SixAxis for gaming on the sensation...
http://www.dancingpixelstudios.com/sixaxiscontroller/about.html
Important - Due to the non-standard protocol that the controllers use to communicate with the host, this application requires root access. Additionally, it is incompatible with most HTC devices and some newer Samsung devices. This is due to the required bluetooth protocol not being implemented on these devices. We are actively looking into a work around, but currently the only solution is to install a custom firmware, such as Cyanogenmod, that supports the required protocols.
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Thanks to all the dev's in advance.

Not to crush your hopes, but I believe this is the same issue with connecting WiiMote controllers to Android phones...
... HTC has messed with the Bluetooth stack so much that on Sense roms they never got it working, and as far as I know nobody ever fixed it (or tried to fix it).
I believe that the HTC Bluetooth stack just misses portions for this (like raw device access I believe) and it isn't just as simple as 'adding missing files'. You can replace the entire Bluetooth stack with the AOSP one (if you got the drivers and all) but apparently that breaks Sense since the Bluetooth stack libs or such as needed to run Sense.
So AOSP / CyanogenMod ROMs (which aren't up and running yet on the Sensation I believe) or hope that somebody has a brand new idea on how to tackle this.

i saw sense rom with modified bluetooth stack and gut such apps working back then for the HD2 ...
i think it is possible to change the stack on sense roms if we would find the right dev to do it for us !!!!!

would also love to see this. even with Sensation's huge screen, my fingers covers half the screen when playing games with onscreen controls. hope this request gets solved.

Hi, I have read if I get my phone (HTC Sensation 4G) "rooted" (not sure how to do this) and install CyanogenMod 7 (could not find it for Sensation) I could use the SixAxis PS3 controller app on my phone.
Does anyone know where I could find CM7 to install on my Sensation (they have it for the MyTouch 4G which seems to be a similar phone, could I install that version of CM7?)?
How can I "root" my device?
Perhaps is there a different method to "tweek" the bluetooth protocol for my phone to pair with the PS3 controller?
I have seen a few youtube videos with the sixaxis working on other phones (Samsung Galaxy S, x10 mini pro, HTC Desire, HTC HD2) and since the Sensation 4G is the newest and best T-Mobile device I assumed there would be some way to get this app to work.
Im desperately trying to use the Sixaxis app (want to do 4 player Mario Kart and 007 via HDMI on my tv with 4 PS3 controllers!!) on my HTC Sensation 4G and if anyone has a way to make this work (or an update) please let me know- thank you!

Well, 4 player Mario Kart via HDMI is going to have to wait a little longer. First, we need AOSP or CM ROM's written for the Sensation (which they aren't), then we can go about trying to get it working.

AnabolicSean said:
Hi, I have read if I get my phone (HTC Sensation 4G) "rooted" (not sure how to do this) and install CyanogenMod 7 (could not find it for Sensation) I could use the SixAxis PS3 controller app on my phone.
Does anyone know where I could find CM7 to install on my Sensation (they have it for the MyTouch 4G which seems to be a similar phone, could I install that version of CM7?)?
How can I "root" my device?
Perhaps is there a different method to "tweek" the bluetooth protocol for my phone to pair with the PS3 controller?
I have seen a few youtube videos with the sixaxis working on other phones (Samsung Galaxy S, x10 mini pro, HTC Desire, HTC HD2) and since the Sensation 4G is the newest and best T-Mobile device I assumed there would be some way to get this app to work.
Im desperately trying to use the Sixaxis app (want to do 4 player Mario Kart and 007 via HDMI on my tv with 4 PS3 controllers!!) on my HTC Sensation 4G and if anyone has a way to make this work (or an update) please let me know- thank you!
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1: Not out for sensation yet, wait. and No you can't, it's a different device.
2: There's a sticky on the Development section
3: Rewrite the bluetooth drivers
4: Yes there is wait for CM7 or rewrite protocol
5: And again, wait.

I know in the desirehd thread, one of the developers by the name of xxxpachaxxx was able to get six axis to work on a modified kernal for sense roms. Works on his rooms but may try it on others. You should see if he made one for the sensation and is not pm him and hope he can. Just proof to show it is possible. I wonder if they fixed this in Sense 4.0.

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theorie said:
http://youtu.be/bGulIF85SnM​
Wondering if there is any way to easily add-on / flash the 'required protocols' needed to pair a rooted Sensation with a SixAxis controller.
I downloaded the compatibility app to check, and it said the Bluetooth 'required protocols' were missing.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to pair a SixAxis for gaming on the sensation...
http://www.dancingpixelstudios.com/sixaxiscontroller/about.html
Thanks to all the dev's in advance.
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did you found any solution about this ?

[Q] Phone will not connect to PC Via Bluetooth

I cannot connect to my PC With Blue-tooth. I am using widdcom v6.1 on my Windows 7 64bit computer, and my HTC inspire 4g is running Stock Gingerbread non root with v2.1 blue-tooth. When I try to pair my phone with my PC that is using a rocketfish blue-tooth dongle RF-MRBTAD for my PC, my PC finds the phone. Although, it does not ask for a pairing code on phone or computer. It only says that the pairing code was incorrect. I need to know if it is a hardware or OS incompatibility issue, or if it is a software/firmware compatibility issue. If it is a software issue, where i can find an update or a ROM that will be able to incorporate the PC compatibility. I have already called HTC and Rocketfish to find out what is happening, and HTC said it may be a version incompatibility (they weren't sure), and rocketfish said they did not know. I have not contacted Bluetooth.org about the situation yet. Microsoft has no helpful files on the subject.
Edit-- added phone version info

If there is anyone looking into this problem further please at least post an update that you are looking into it. I have gone as far as my expertise can take me at this point. Please help.

New Update
I found out that it is the bluetooth.apk that is the problem. There is something wrong with the stack. I updated my phone to CM7.1.0 Desire HD ROM, but it has the same problem.
This is the error I get within windows.
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I have tried to fix the problem every way possible, but with no resolution. I can connect to other devices, but not to my phone. If there is a solution or a fix somewhere that I can download to install a different Bluetooth.apk, or a ROM with a .APK that will work. I prefer to stay with CyanogenMOD though. Please fix this problem.

Working on adjusting the Bluetooth.apk
I am working on adjusting the bluetooth,apk file for Cyanogenmod 7.1.0 Desire HD Stable mod to be able to accept a pairing code request from a computer. I am new to this and have to read a lot of documentation to be able to fix this problem. If you are waiting on this update please let me know.

I know very little about this.
Your pc connects to other bluetooth devices, right?
Does your cellphone connect to other bluetooth devices?
How about trying to update the rom? I believe the last version is 7.2 for cyanogen (gb version - above that would be ics)
Edit: Just noticed it happens with two different roms. Does the cell connect to other bluetooth devices?
Sent from a dream.

Teichopsia said:
I know very little about this.
Your pc connects to other bluetooth devices, right?
Does your cellphone connect to other bluetooth devices?
How about trying to update the rom? I believe the last version is 7.2 for cyanogen (gb version - above that would be ics)
Edit: Just noticed it happens with two different roms. Does the cell connect to other bluetooth devices?
Sent from a dream.
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Yes My phone connects to other bluetooth Devices. I am able to pair my phone with my bluetooth headset, and other phones. I am using a bluetooth keyboard and mouse with my computer, and the keyboard is able to pair with my phone, and my phone asks for a pairing code when pairing with the keyboard. There is not an ICS available for Ace devices yet, but I am trying to speak with the Devs to help with that. Here is the thread for the ICS update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582669

My knowledge reaches flashing
And thats about it.
Well, good luck cause I wouldn't be much help.
My only other suggestion would be to try with a different bluetooth dongle or try connecting your cell to a different computer, see if the problem persists.
From there, no idea.
Good luck.
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Tried both. It works, just not with a PC. Something to do with the LMP on Bluetooth.
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I could be wrong but you shouldn't need additional Bluetooth software for Win7. I have never used the Rocketfish dongle, but my Asus and generic dongles work fine with built in Bluetooth software.
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I switched my phone to ice and it works now. I didn't need any extra software for win-win.
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You are probably referring to the widdcom blluetooth stack I'm using.
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avemt1 said:
You are probably referring to the widdcom blluetooth stack I'm using.
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Right. I haven't had to use a Widcomm stack since XP.
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biglittlegato said:
Right. I haven't had to use a Widcomm stack since XP.
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What stack would you recommend?
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With Win 7 I just use the windows stack.
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