[Q] Can Jack Audio ever work in Tubuntu? Plus some audio apps that do.. - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey, I wanted to say that I am really loving x3maniacs build of Ubuntu for tf101, Tubuntu, it's revitalized a piece of hardware I didn't even know needed revitalizing.
I only had one or two questions involving audio. Is there any way to get Jack Audio working on an ARM processor, this one in particular? I've read enough to know that they don't play nice together, but I've read of some success getting it to work with the ARM based Pandaboard through an external audio interface compatible with Ubuntu/Linux. I'd much rather prefer the software way, but anything would be awesome.
And I guess that's part of my second question: Is there any way to get USB midi interfaces or Audio Interfaces recognized? Maybe recognized is the wrong word, because I scanned the ports with my Korg microkey plugged in, and it saw a device labeled KORG, but I think I need to be able to use a midi softsynth like timidity or fluidsynth to have it translate to an application.
I'm already really impressed with this build, and linux in general, I know it's very midi capable, it recognized my psx controllers hooked up with a super dual box pro, and as two seperate midi game controllers no less with fully working thumb axis controllers (which is more than I can say for android).
I should also mention that I'm really interested in this because LMMS (Linux MultiMedia Studio), Audacity, and the Hydrogen sampler all seem to be up and running really well on Tubuntu, I mean I'm more than happy with that. I can even use an adapter to split the microphone input and audio output in the headphone jack so I can plug my guitar, bass, and microphones in and record directly into Audacity. More than I ever could've imagined doing with this hardware.
And anyone who's into audio production or beat making, you should really check out LMMS on Tubuntu, full of instruments, plugin effects, and an Sf2 (soundfont) player, all with really manageble latency considering.
so even though I'm happy where it's at, I'm just wondering if that one small, yet crucial and difficult to work around, piece can be figured out. Jack would open the system up to programs like Ardour, Rosegarden, Musecore (which actually works but crashes when you try to go into preferences and can't play sound, think it's automatically configured to jack or alsa_seq), and Traverso, which all start up, but can't really be used without Jack; or the world of guitar amp modeling, as there's a way to get a guitar signal in.
Sorry for the long post, but I am really excited by the sheer number of things that are already working in this build (not even mentioning GIMP or Libreoffice).
Really, thanks to everyone for their hard work on this. Hope to hear from someone on the issue.
Oh, and I should warn anyone who might try, excessive installing and uninstalling of audio drivers/midi drivers seems to lead to instability in the system, I've reflashed and started from scratch many times in the last few days.
Also, also, I usually found my self in search of snd-seq modprobe file/directory, that seemed to be the thing that couldn't be found and connected to jack most often.
Alright, thanks again.

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Bluetooth music headphones

Hi Guys,
I have been on the search to find a bluetooth headphone that will allow you to listen to music through bluetooth on your I-mate/XDA 2 etc.
I came accross the Sonorix OBH-0100.
Site:http://www.sonorix.com/eng/sono_product_obh0100.html
Review:http://www.worldofppc.com/HWTests/openbt2.htm
I sent an e-mail to the company asking whether this set would work with Pocket PC (XDA 2). They replied back saying that current pocket pc's would need a A2DP (advanced audio distribution profile) to be able to use your bluetooth headphones to listen to music from your device.
Does anyone know how we could go about adding this extra bluetooth feature.
Im sure that alot of you would like this option / accessory. So if anyone could help that would be appreciated.
Thanks
Hi, well done on finding the BT headphones, I've been trying to find something like this for a while...
first, on other parts of this site there are links to the following place:
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
This guy is busy writing BT software for the XDA to fill in the shortfalls, and slowly including more profiles into his BT tools, He may be able to help with the profile problem for the XDA...
Also, are they actually selling these units yet? The URL you supplied only seems to supply 'sample' sets for traders, I would like to know where it is being sold, and if not when it is being released if the info is available..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6816&highlight=bluetooth+stereo
people say that the quality is horrible if it worked
Hmm I dunno, maybe it is possible to send the audio across the BT link compressed (maybe MP3 like) and do the decompression back into audio locally, this would possibly make it possible to send resonable quality over the BT link bitrate (I think it's about 700k).
Their website claims to have reached CD quality audio.
yeah suppose you could do that but it would require
a uncompression in the head set
it would be possible of cause but from that guy who tried it
it may require more then just a std profile
Yes, a special profile is required as mentioned in the first post, apparently it is an advanced audio digital profile (a2dp), but no hand held units have it yet, we were hoping someone may be able to write profile support for the XDA...
I sent an e-mail to Tobias at Pocket Bluetooth tools about these particular headphones and he replied that he has no ordered the headphones and will work on the A2DP profile as soon as he recieves the headphones.
Hope something good comes out of this.
Will keep you updated 8)
Great news, now we only need to sit back and wait.
I had a look at the site but they only seem to be selling trader samples? Do we know where these items can be bought yet and how much? if not do we know a release date?
No, they havent mentioned anything about a release date but I have heard that many people have ordered the trade samples to test them out.
I think trade samples is the ony way you can buy for the time being ...$220 is the price as I remember and this excludes delivery and tax that you might have to pay.
But I have to admit they look very cool and if Tobias can solve this problem soon, I would certainly order one for myself.
BT audio transport
Hi folks,
I'm on the search for BT headset that also plays back the audio output of my MDA II (e.g. direction info of tomtom nav 3 ...)ยด. When I found this thread I thought that's it, but there is now follow up after Apr. 24th.
Any news yet?
Still no news!?!?!?!
:x
what you need is a bluetooth profile which have support for
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
ms really dont like bluetooth all that much and their stack lack most bluetooth profiles
maybe the latest vidcomm stack support it
more about bluetooth profiles
http://www.palowireless.com/infotooth/tutorial/profiles.asp
maybe you should look into this product
http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT420EX.htm
but some guy in the forum had one for test and said the phone quality was pretty poor
RE
OK guys!
A short review has been posted here:-
http://www.ppcsg.com/forums/viewtop...t=iphono&sid=6d3d546329a09353b6817f1c28cdca86
From another thread Pocket Bluetooth Tools doesn't work very well with iPHONO bluetooth headphone and the digital Bluespoon bluetooth headset. However, it creates a non-dynamic serial port and enables printing from the O2 XDA II to HP 450CBi bluetooth portable printer.
http://www.ppcsg.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38299&sid=6d3d546329a09353b6817f1c28cdca86
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PPC as MIDI device (MIDI to USB Cable)

Hey,
after playing aroung with my HTC touch for a while as a Musician I found it rather useful e.g. to tune, as metronome, while what I really like would be to use it as a simple MIDI sequencer being able to playback (and maybe record) from my keyboards.
Now after extensive research, I found that there was a solution years ago for the IPaq bus no discussion going on over the last four years.
But given that today there are dozens of MIDI to USB solutions available I was asking myself how difficult it would be to make such a cable which would really be a great deal for making this possible.
My results so far:
There was an adaptor Serial-MIDI for PPC (http://home.datacomm.ch/walter.schurter/Bilder/PocketPC_MIDI_Adapter.jpg)
The MPORT Solution for IPAQ seem to not exist anymore (http://www.han-d-solutions.com/mport.htm) (Description see here: http://www.worldofppc.com/HWTests/mporte.htm)
So maybe a new attempt might be feasible these days? Or anyone had some success looking for MIDI on a PDA?
Cheers
Johannes
Not for external MIDI, but the Griff sequencer is a portable virtual studio for Pocket Windows devices.
Has virtual instruments and effects, and got a good review in Sound on Sound some years back.
More info, here
http://www.planetgriff.com/
Yeah, that sounds nice indeed, even though not exactly what I want, It would really be convenient to just connect it to a midi keyboard and really have a on the go music making solution, but it seems too much to ask for!
rock on johannes
I reckon your idea would require USB host functionality in your PPC, which it probably lacks.

Stream all audio overairplay?

Looking for an app that will stream all system audio over airplay (example would be airport express).
An example of why this would be really great would be for Apps like Rdio and Spotify. By having an application agnostic way to stream it would work for numerous apps. I know there are players out in the market that do play to airplay speakers, however the audio has to come from them (IE would not work streaming based applications).
Anyone have any thoughts or know of any apps that could do this?
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I would think not. I honestly don't know what's so good about airplay. I have bluetooth and my ipod touch can play music to that with no problem!
Anyway, you probably could find a way to do it however, since it isn't cooked into the OS, you probably don't have a hope.
Oh, and Air Play doesn't work with every ipod touch app either, unless you know a very special trick (and perhapse a jailbreak).
I am sorry about this.
Try Doubletwist.
What i like about airplay is the integration into my home theater system. My home theater has numerous available sources and 3x sets of speakers for different sections of the house. This allows me to play what i want where i want it.
If I could get some sort of bluetooth device that has a range of 150 feet (as i can be on the deck or anywhere in the house) then that works. Any suggestions?
I thinks its a very low likelihood that anything exists now.
The base parts are there: the bluetooth audio redirects system audio, and other apps stream to airplay. So its a matter of combining them.
aibo: I was under the impression that doubletwist will play to airplay only if the audio plays through it. IE music local to the device. If doubletwist would allolw music played from the rdio or spotify app that would be what i want.
also very interested in this. looking for an app that can play ALL phone audio over airplay.
yes, bluetooth is great, but has the distinct disadvantage of shorter range than wifi (used by airplay).
anyone know of anything?
DLNA
Your stereo probably has DLNA support, so you could try finding an app for that. DLNA is almost identical to AirPlay. I don't know why Apple made their own system instead of just implementing DLNA.
greenxero said:
Your stereo probably has DLNA support, so you could try finding an app for that. DLNA is almost identical to AirPlay. I don't know why Apple made their own system instead of just implementing DLNA.
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DLNA poses the same problem. There is no method of pushing *all* sound through DLNA only sound from the DLNA enabled apps. I too would love *some* systemwide method of streaming other than bluetooth, but I have yet to find one. One that does audio and video would be perfect. The HDMI cable works great, but I have broken 1 cable and 1 adapter because the point where the mini HDMI goes into the wire/adapter is the weak point in the event of cable flex.
As to the question of why Apple made a new system it is pretty simple. Apple gets a royalty from every iDock device sold as it is their patent, the same holds true for airplay, they get a royalty for every airplay device sold. They feel they have the market share to force users to purchase these devices. And let's face it, for whatever reason the Android manufacturers missed the boat on this one. If Android had established a standard A/V port on every device we too would have a mutitude of docks to connect our devices to, but it never happened. That is the one and only thing I wish we had from the Apple world.
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Kasush said:
DLNA poses the same problem. There is no method of pushing *all* sound through DLNA only sound from the DLNA enabled apps. I too would love *some* systemwide method of streaming other than bluetooth, but I have yet to find one. One that does audio and video would be perfect. The HDMI cable works great, but I have broken 1 cable and 1 adapter because the point where the mini HDMI goes into the wire/adapter is the weak point in the event of cable flex.
As to the question of why Apple made a new system it is pretty simple. Apple gets a royalty from every iDock device sold as it is their patent, the same holds true for airplay, they get a royalty for every airplay device sold. They feel they have the market share to force users to purchase these devices. And let's face it, for whatever reason the Android manufacturers missed the boat on this one. If Android had established a standard A/V port on every device we too would have a mutitude of docks to connect our devices to, but it never happened. That is the one and only thing I wish we had from the Apple world.
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I totally agree. Wouldn't it be nice if we could stream all our audio to wireless (airplay) docks....
Says an owner of a BW Zeppelin Air
MP3's is no problem at all, but Radio, Podcasts or games would even be better

New to Sticks, need advice on my options please? Audio-centric questions

Hey folks,
TLDR at the end
I'm wondering if you can help me please, however I'm not sure if what I want is available. I'm new to this area of Android and I'm finding all the options a bit daunting as I'm not familiar with what is reputable and what is not. For example, I read the thread about the Gearbest MXiii, but when looking in the UK, I found the same box on Amazon, released under 2 different Manufacturer names... Much like if you try to buy a Media PC keyboard.
Anyway, here are the things I hope to do / run:
I want to replace my Windows Desktop that acts as my Media Centre. I use Kodi (Formerly XBMC) 14. I also use Chrome to play Netflix (would replace this with the android app), Spotify - and that's pretty much it. All my Storage is networked so I don't need anything there.
I am hoping to get a powerful machine (Quad core perhaps) with the ability to run lollipop (through AOSP if necessary) that will run Kodi, spotify and the Netflix app. BUT what I am also hoping to do, is run a 5.1 audio setup. I'm under no illusions that this support will be unlikely to be built-in (Although that would definitely be preferable) but will happily buy a USB DAC if we know of a stick that will support it and is not extortionately priced... What complicates things further, is I don't really want to run 5.1. I actually want to run 3.0 ( I don't imaging that makes much difference here, but again - it's not a familiar area to me). The reason being that on my Desktop, I run a centre speaker with the volume controlled separately, because whenever any of my media supports 5.1, when it mixes down to dual channel, I often end up with loud sound effects and low dialogue, which can be trouble when I have both an upstairs and downstairs neighbour....
So.... does anyone have any recommendations based on that?
TLDR;
I'm looking for a Powerful android stick that will support Lollipop through any means and 3.0 Audio as a minimum, even if through a USB Dac
danarama said:
Hey folks,
TLDR at the end
I'm wondering if you can help me please, however I'm not sure if what I want is available. I'm new to this area of Android and I'm finding all the options a bit daunting as I'm not familiar with what is reputable and what is not. For example, I read the thread about the Gearbest MXiii, but when looking in the UK, I found the same box on Amazon, released under 2 different Manufacturer names... Much like if you try to buy a Media PC keyboard.
Anyway, here are the things I hope to do / run:
I want to replace my Windows Desktop that acts as my Media Centre. I use Kodi (Formerly XBMC) 14. I also use Chrome to play Netflix (would replace this with the android app), Spotify - and that's pretty much it. All my Storage is networked so I don't need anything there.
I am hoping to get a powerful machine (Quad core perhaps) with the ability to run lollipop (through AOSP if necessary) that will run Kodi, spotify and the Netflix app. BUT what I am also hoping to do, is run a 5.1 audio setup. I'm under no illusions that this support will be unlikely to be built-in (Although that would definitely be preferable) but will happily buy a USB DAC if we know of a stick that will support it and is not extortionately priced... What complicates things further, is I don't really want to run 5.1. I actually want to run 3.0 ( I don't imaging that makes much difference here, but again - it's not a familiar area to me). The reason being that on my Desktop, I run a centre speaker with the volume controlled separately, because whenever any of my media supports 5.1, when it mixes down to dual channel, I often end up with loud sound effects and low dialogue, which can be trouble when I have both an upstairs and downstairs neighbour....
So.... does anyone have any recommendations based on that?
TLDR;
I'm looking for a Powerful android stick that will support Lollipop through any means and 3.0 Audio as a minimum, even if through a USB Dac
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Is there an Android Tablet/ROM/App strictly for Controlling/Cast Music?

Hey all,
I have an old (80's-style) full-length cabinet that sits on the floor. It's got a 8-track, FM/AM, and record player built-in, but the radio sucks and the record player is broken. I want to gut the whole thing, install some more modern speakers, install a new record player, and control it all from a tablet or touch screen computer. The big thing I'm looking for is a bit of "future-proofing" so that it can control both the built-in speakers and cast to other devices across the house or even the back patio. We have guests over pretty often, whether to cook out or just hang out in the house. I'd like to be able to pop open the lid of the cabinet and let anybody add/change the music playing, or be able to play the record player throughout the speakers in my house (my wife enjoys the records, while I prefer the convenience of Google Play Music).
I think the best way to do this is through Android, since it's much easier to cast to devices, and I can still change the music playing throughout the house via phones, tablet, and gHomes if I want.
Does anyone have a recommendation for building this solution? I think the most effective way to do this will be to set up the speakers in the cabinet and just plug them directly into a Chromecast Audio. I'll need either a ROM or a home launcher that's more conducive to selecting and limiting itself to a select few music apps & YouTube.
The big hurdles I see are setting up "zones" so that I can pick which Chromecasts the system plays to depending on where in the house we're going to be. I also need a way to feed the external audio (the record player) to the Tablet so it can forward that sound to other Chromecasts. I've looked for how to do this a bit, and it looks like Mozilla figured out a way to do it using a Raspberry Pi. I'm not opposed to this, but I want to be sure that I can use the tablet/computer I build into the cabinet to select which Chromecasts this streams to.
Thanks for the help / recommendations! If I get all of this figured out, I'll be sure to share the end result so people can see how well it all worked out!

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