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We need help please to activate FM transmitter in hd2/nexus join us

we have started a thread in hd2 forum about depeloping driver for fm transimitter BUILT IN IN THE HD2 AND OTHER devices which has the bradcom chip bmc 4329 like (nexus one ) but we need experts to help us if you are expert at programming or any thing related to the following thread or just you have a good idea please join us at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622377

We need help please to activate FM transmitter in hd2/nexus join us
we have started a thread in hd2 forum about depeloping driver for fm transimitter BUILT IN IN THE HD2 AND OTHER devices which has the bradcom chip bmc 4329 like (nexus one ) but we need experts to help us if you are expert at programming or any thing related to the following thread or just you have a good idea please join us at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622377

Maybe put FM TRANSMITTER FOR HD2/NEXUS ONE in the title

I vote for a better title also...
Make it clear, because this title sounds like a noob that do not search creating a thread that will be shut down in a matter of minutes.
Maybe something like: "We need help to activate FM transmitter in HD2"

Hey hoss, congrats on Egypt's great win yesterday.
Can you please use proper capitalization in the title? Like what zefiltrin posted: "We need help to activate FM transmitter in HD2".
I have an HD2 and it would be immensely useful to have an FM transmitter!

As I wrote before, FmRadioSDK.dll and HTCFM.dll are wrappers, not drivers.
HTCFM.DLL is wrapper of FmRadioSDK.dll. FMRadioSDK is wrapper of Bluetooth Stack.
Bluetooth stack decode data and forward request and hide all implementation details inside.
I bet HTC doesn't know those implementation details and broadcomm won't tell anybody (unless pay for it?).
we need to work on BT related files.
I posted key functions within FMRadioSDK in FM RDS thread before.
I think we have to write a tool to inject bluetooth stack/driver to see how things work.
The worst thing could be bluetooth stop working while our program control FM Transmitter etc.

NSider said:
Hey hoss, congrats on Egypt's great win yesterday.
Can you please use proper capitalization in the title? Like what zefiltrin posted: "We need help to activate FM transmitter in HD2".
I have an HD2 and it would be immensely useful to have an FM transmitter!
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tanks allot ...................

we still need help so comon guys

Hello my friends,
Can you explain me why you want to make an FM transmitter with HD2 / Nexus ?
And what is the Mhz ?
22MHZ to 200 MHZ ?
Thanks a lot,
regards,
Nixeus

I can answer question #1 - simply because its,
cool, fun, and useful (in the car/hookup to stream your music to a sound system and you forgot the cable and maybe just got the headset)
regards

Nixeus said:
Hello my friends,
Can you explain me why you want to make an FM transmitter with HD2 / Nexus ?
And what is the Mhz ?
22MHZ to 200 MHZ ?
Thanks a lot,
regards,
Nixeus
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why are you askong about mhz it is the frequency of a wave but what kind of wave are you asking about wifi or radio or what

In order to transmit on the polices frequences or military frequence, or C.B frequence

Nixeus said:
Hello my friends,
Can you explain me why you want to make an FM transmitter with HD2 / Nexus ?
And what is the Mhz ?
22MHZ to 200 MHZ ?
Thanks a lot,
regards,
Nixeus
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An FM transmitter, as mentioned above, is useful for sending music to your car's radio in case it doesn't have an audio in jack or you don't want additional wiring.
As for the frequency, that would the regular FM channels' frequencies which fall in the range of 87.5-108.0 MHz. Ideally, if FM transmission was achieved on HD2/N1, it should be able to transmit at low power at any frequency falling within that range. The user would choose the frequency at which there is least interference in his location and use it to transmit low-power FM signals that his car can pick up.

I just played with FM transmitter feature of a prototype nokia phone.
Interestingly it prompts me to unplug accessories (headset) in order to enable FM Transmitter.
That means FM Transmitter is not using headset as antenna.
Looking at size of this device I don't think it use large/long internal antenna either.
Also read some internal documents related to broadcomm BCM chipset. Broadcomm provided SDK to manufactures rather than giving them hardware interface documents. The phone must sends a set of RAM initialization data to the BCM chipset after reset otherwise the chipset won't response to any commands.
In other word, we will need two things:
1. Find a device that using same chipset to provide FM transmitter. So we will know initialization data and control commands.
2. reverse engineer Broadcomm SDK/FM Radio on HD2 to understand the hardware ports.
After that it is possible to write a hardware driver for HD2.
ps. I think FM transmitter is useless. I have one at home. sound quality is too poor, even worse than WM radio. feels like a low pass filter.
And have to keep changing frequency when traveling between cities.
I spent £ 15 bought a cheapest mp3 in car stereo that supports SD card, USB drive and AUX input with many useful features, with expected sound quality.
If I spent a little more on that car stereo could come with A2DP so that I can use phone bluetooth as "FM Transmitter"
I only need it plays music from my key ring USB drive. threw my old Alpine stereo with that FM transmitter away.

This would be great! I could finally kick the ipod to the curb!

really will be useful
goooo....

funny i was just wondering yesterday about getting one of those fm transmitters commonly used for ipods, thinking it might work better than the poor sound i'm currently getting from the head phones i'm using with my leo.

would this be compatible with my TP2?

No you tp2 don't have a (BCM4329)chip so no go

jan-willem3 said:
No you tp2 don't have a (BCM4329)chip so no go
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Oh well, i have a 3.5mm to fm adaptor from my ipod, and my cay has bt streaming (Thanks ford!)

something like Airfoil for android??

Hi
need some help to find a app that will let me stream music from my X10 to other devices that are connected just like Airfoil.
If i play music or a movie on my x10 and send/hijack this to a tv or stereo using the wifi, airport or mha DNLA. Is there a app for this??
Please help me out.

I use Bluetooth to stream MP3 and Youtube (sound only) to my stereo.
Is this what you are after?

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I use Bluetooth to stream MP3 and Youtube (sound only) to my stereo.
Is this what you are after?
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Yes something like that but i will be able to use the wifi or airport, dnla. so i can stream spotify, grooveshark or video from my x10 and se it on, TV or play music in my stereo.
How does bluetooth and stream work, do you use a app??

Have you had a look at iMediashare in the market? I use it to stream from my Dinc to my WDTV LIVE. Only done music and images, so can't speak as to whether it does video effectively or not.
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Digging up this old thread. Did you find a solution for it?
iMediashare is limited by content it can read. ie. cant play Spotify or Google Music wich would be my main purpose of this.
Anyone know of an app that would work?

Help
I have the same problem.
Need a app for getting my spotify (on galaxy s2) to my Apple TV 2gen.
That would be epic!

most def Would be awsome to stream Napster from android to wifi speaker device., airport or whatever

try twonky mobile

Hooride707 said:
try twonky mobile
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As far a i can see, this has the same limitations as iMediashare that i mentioned earlier. It cant play from Spotify/Google Music.

Does anyone know if this is even possible on Android? I am considering trying to develop an app to do this myself as i really miss this possibility both on my tablet and phone.

I second that request
I also really need this feature, What airfoils does for windows, i need on my 3.2 tablet and 4.0 phone.
the ability to grab sound from any program running, and sent it to any DLNA compatibly unit on the network. Airport express, windows media player and so on.
Like Mixy says, all the programs that i have found a limited to share the content that they can play.
A Android Airfoil remote, would do the trick in my case. So that my windows server, running XBMC was the source of the sound, if i only could remote turn on Airfoil speakers from my phone.

I would recommend all interested to send a mail to Rogue Amoeba (dev of Airfoil), saying you are interested in this app. I've done so, but showing increased interest would be good.

I'm interested too ! Looking for something like the sonos solution but using a wifi network connected device and operating through something like airfoil for android. Any reply from Rogue Amoeba ?

I just sent Rogue Amoeba a message, will let everyone know there response.

This is what i got the last time i mailed them:
Hi Fredrick, As far as sending audio FROM Android out, it's unlikely we'll be doing that (though we'll see). We do hope to introduce an Airfoil Speakers (the receiving end) client for Android - we'll see what happens in the future.
-Paul
EDIT:
I should also add that I am playing with the idea of making something like this myself. I dug around in the Android SDK and could not find anything to get audio-stream from other apps. This is due to security of apps and their content. Spotify does not want their stream to be able to be recorded etc.
I'm no dev, so my research is slow, but from what i can tell this app would require root, and possibly also injection of code into the ALSA library used by Android.

I also received a response:
Thanks for getting in touch with us. Currently, our mobile development plans are only to improve upon Airfoil Speakers Touch for iOS devices. However, we're evaluating interest in extending Airfoil Speakers to other platforms, so this sort of feedback definitely helps. So, stay tuned for updates from us and do let us know if you've got any other questions or issues.

Mixy your finding makes sens. Maybe find a equalizers program, they also must grab the sound from playing apps, right ?
But then a again, what i really need is the ability to toggle playing sound unit.
I wrote this trough Rogue Amoeba support page.
http://getsatisfaction.com/rogueamoeba/topics/airfoil_for_android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849097
I like to toggle speakers playing on a windows airfoil from my android.
and second i like a airfoil grabber for android, so that all sound are transmitted.
So the windows server can see that transmit and you can from your android unit, control the windows server and on that server's airfoil speakers press receive from android unit.
Completing android in the Airplay/DLNA wonder world
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What about emulating a Bluetooth speaker ?
Still protected by SDK limits ?
All sounds are passed through to the speaker, can it be grabbed here and sent to a dnla unit ?
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This is the answer from Rogue Amoeba, disappointing answer. So i guess its time to look for another program, that does what airfoil does but + android support.
Hi there,
At this time, we have no plans for Android versions of any of our software, but we'll see what happens.
-Paul
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Paul Kafasis
Rogue Amoeba Software, LLC
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Hi guys, I'm very interested too with an app that allows you to send Spotify to an Airplay receiver ... I heard about a plugin for Doubletwist that allows you to stream what you're listenning with this player to Airplay ... So maybe you could check for this to allow streaming every audio programs that are played ? I'm not a dev so ...
Good luck if you try to make an app by yourself, I really hope it'll be working and I would be the first owner !

Its true that you can play mp3 files to an airplay reciever, but that is because the program "owns" the music.
In the case of Spotify, the Spotify app owns the music, and thus it would have to hijack the audio-stream

Stream all audio overairplay?

Looking for an app that will stream all system audio over airplay (example would be airport express).
An example of why this would be really great would be for Apps like Rdio and Spotify. By having an application agnostic way to stream it would work for numerous apps. I know there are players out in the market that do play to airplay speakers, however the audio has to come from them (IE would not work streaming based applications).
Anyone have any thoughts or know of any apps that could do this?
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I would think not. I honestly don't know what's so good about airplay. I have bluetooth and my ipod touch can play music to that with no problem!
Anyway, you probably could find a way to do it however, since it isn't cooked into the OS, you probably don't have a hope.
Oh, and Air Play doesn't work with every ipod touch app either, unless you know a very special trick (and perhapse a jailbreak).
I am sorry about this.

Try Doubletwist.

What i like about airplay is the integration into my home theater system. My home theater has numerous available sources and 3x sets of speakers for different sections of the house. This allows me to play what i want where i want it.
If I could get some sort of bluetooth device that has a range of 150 feet (as i can be on the deck or anywhere in the house) then that works. Any suggestions?
I thinks its a very low likelihood that anything exists now.
The base parts are there: the bluetooth audio redirects system audio, and other apps stream to airplay. So its a matter of combining them.
aibo: I was under the impression that doubletwist will play to airplay only if the audio plays through it. IE music local to the device. If doubletwist would allolw music played from the rdio or spotify app that would be what i want.

also very interested in this. looking for an app that can play ALL phone audio over airplay.
yes, bluetooth is great, but has the distinct disadvantage of shorter range than wifi (used by airplay).
anyone know of anything?

DLNA
Your stereo probably has DLNA support, so you could try finding an app for that. DLNA is almost identical to AirPlay. I don't know why Apple made their own system instead of just implementing DLNA.

greenxero said:
Your stereo probably has DLNA support, so you could try finding an app for that. DLNA is almost identical to AirPlay. I don't know why Apple made their own system instead of just implementing DLNA.
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DLNA poses the same problem. There is no method of pushing *all* sound through DLNA only sound from the DLNA enabled apps. I too would love *some* systemwide method of streaming other than bluetooth, but I have yet to find one. One that does audio and video would be perfect. The HDMI cable works great, but I have broken 1 cable and 1 adapter because the point where the mini HDMI goes into the wire/adapter is the weak point in the event of cable flex.
As to the question of why Apple made a new system it is pretty simple. Apple gets a royalty from every iDock device sold as it is their patent, the same holds true for airplay, they get a royalty for every airplay device sold. They feel they have the market share to force users to purchase these devices. And let's face it, for whatever reason the Android manufacturers missed the boat on this one. If Android had established a standard A/V port on every device we too would have a mutitude of docks to connect our devices to, but it never happened. That is the one and only thing I wish we had from the Apple world.
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Kasush said:
DLNA poses the same problem. There is no method of pushing *all* sound through DLNA only sound from the DLNA enabled apps. I too would love *some* systemwide method of streaming other than bluetooth, but I have yet to find one. One that does audio and video would be perfect. The HDMI cable works great, but I have broken 1 cable and 1 adapter because the point where the mini HDMI goes into the wire/adapter is the weak point in the event of cable flex.
As to the question of why Apple made a new system it is pretty simple. Apple gets a royalty from every iDock device sold as it is their patent, the same holds true for airplay, they get a royalty for every airplay device sold. They feel they have the market share to force users to purchase these devices. And let's face it, for whatever reason the Android manufacturers missed the boat on this one. If Android had established a standard A/V port on every device we too would have a mutitude of docks to connect our devices to, but it never happened. That is the one and only thing I wish we had from the Apple world.
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I totally agree. Wouldn't it be nice if we could stream all our audio to wireless (airplay) docks....
Says an owner of a BW Zeppelin Air
MP3's is no problem at all, but Radio, Podcasts or games would even be better

Develop an Air Play app for Android (Stream any audio to any reciever)

For those of you not familiar with Rogue Amoeba they are the developers of a very popular iOS/OS X and now Windows application called Airfoil that is capable of streaming any audio source to any Airplay capable device or any device with their "Airspeaker" app installed on it.
As you can imagine they have had great success with this app. Unfortunately they have no plans to develop a version for android. This was made clear in a post in February located here:
rogueamoeba.com/utm/2012/02/18/sending-any-audio-to-android-devices-via-airplay-with-airfoil/
I also contacted Paul Kafasis (CEO of RA) and his response was the same explaining further that Android actively prevents access to it's audio making it nearly impossible to develop an app for android. I've included our conversation below as well.
ME:
I would like to officially submit my request to have the Airfoil app developed for Android.
With over 300,000,0000 android devices sold worldwide as of February 2012 (over 10 times the amount of iOS devices despite a 16 month head start) and another 850,0000 activated every day the potential here is absolutely enormous.
Please seriously reconsider your decision to not develop for android at this time.
PAUL:
Hi Drew,
It's an interesting idea, but at this time, I'm afraid we have no plans for Airfoil for Android. While Android allows for more access than iOS, it's still nearly impossible to grab another application's audio to send it out. As such, Airfoil for Android is a difficult proposition at best.
Perhaps more likely is an Airfoil Speakers client for Android, enabling you to *receive* audio on Android. We don't have any announced plans for that either, but it's likely what you'd see first, before an Airfoil for Android.
Anyhow, we'll keep our eye on the platform, and see what happens!
ME:
Paul,
Thanks for the quick response. I am not a programmer so I won't pretend to know the complexities involved with grabbing the audio output of the device and redirecting it but I wouldn't think it would be extremely difficult to redirect all audio on the device no different than when you plug in a set of headphones or send your audio over Bluetooth. This is what I believe to be the primary feature of your software. Being able to set each app individually to use airplay as a receiver would be nice but certainly not necessary for initial releases. I would hate to see someone beat you to it since you've done such a great job on your iOS, OS X and Windows applications.
PAUL:
Drew,
You wouldn't think so, no, but it is. Android simply does not make this functionality possible, and actively prevents it.
Anyway,
Where I'm getting with all this is that a lot of people would like to see an app with this capability developed for android. Especially now that a large number of devices (receivers, speakers, etc.) in recent years have started to come with airplay compatibility out of the box. People have been requesting this from Airfoil for over 2 years with no response. I was hoping to get the following answered from someone with an intimate knowledge of the capabilities of android:
1. Is it possible to develop an app that is capable of routing all audio on an android device to an Airplay device?
2. If not possible on a locked device, is it possible on a unlocked/rooted device?
3. Is this something anyone on here would be capable or interested in developing?
Thanks for all the help.

Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?

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Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?
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I would LOVE to see an app like that! My whole house is wired for airplay with 6 zones and speakers in all ceilings. Iphones can play music in any room. Only app for Android is Honey Player and that is terribly buggy
It would be awesome if it was just possible to send ALL audio like bluetooth A2DP !!!

I just wanted to add my desire for such an app as well. I have airfoil all set up so I can stream from my laptop to my HTPC but it would be awesome if I could do it from my Android phone and tablet.
There must be a developer on here that could do such a thing and I for one would be willing to donate.

The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here

Mystic38 said:
The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here
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DLNA is fine for streaming media files from one device to another but it is not capable of streaming media from a streaming service. I.e. streaming Google music or Tune In via airplay to your home stereo. Really the only solution to date is airplay or bluetooth and bluetooth just doesn't have the range. AM I missing some other solution?

iMediaShare has Airplay capabilities, I use it to stream to my AppleTV(s).

iMediaShare is not compatible with Airport Express at the moment...I tool would be willing to pay for an "Airfoil for android" type application the key being that it can send ANY audio source to the Airport Express.

Plus 1!
I am still looking for this! My apple days are over, but I still own 3 Airport Express devices and 1 appleTV.

JB has ability to do USB audio. Are we getting any closer to "airfoil-like" app for android. I too have 4 zones set up in whole house audio, and hate my first gen ipad these days. Whoever makes this app will make some serious money on the market.

Any news regarding this...?
Seriously... this would be a gold mine for the developer. There are so many Airplay speakers out there that would make playing music to your speakers so much easier.
Isn't it possible to root your device and send all sound output directly to an airplay device?
Sincerely
L

Airplay for Android? I think i'll try that!
i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.

dcbartlett said:
i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.

dcbartlett said:
i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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I'd be interested in this as well. My GF has a airport express that I would love to stream to from my tablet/phone.

Negreac said:
It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.
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While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)

Just wanted to add my support for something like this. I would gladly pay money for this app. I have a Galaxy S2 skyrocket and a Nexus 7. I would love to be able to use my nexus 7 as an audio receiver and stream music from my phone (Play Music / Pandora / Songza / etc) to it. I realize I could set up these apps on the n7 itself and play directly that way, but the key is having the ability to control the music from my phone. Additionally, my friends who have Android phones and the app should be able to do the same with relative ease.
Currently I have AirFoil on my laptop and Android HiFi installed on my n7 and stream music that way. That is less than ideal. I don't understand why this is so difficult? But then again, I'm not a programmer.
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While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)
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I guess that works. I feel like it's kind of overkill and it sucks that you'd have to daisy-chain using both bluetooth and a laptop/desktop. But in the absence of anything else, we have to make due, right?

Airfoil can't intercept audio from the bluetooth stack server, I've tried.

I am also interested in such app

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We all are. It is shocking nothing has come of this.

It is indeed shocking. I'm guessing there's not a lot of work being done because it is too difficult (though I don't quite understand why that is). I am hoping Google blesses us with miracast in the next release.

[Q] Can Jack Audio ever work in Tubuntu? Plus some audio apps that do..

Hey, I wanted to say that I am really loving x3maniacs build of Ubuntu for tf101, Tubuntu, it's revitalized a piece of hardware I didn't even know needed revitalizing.
I only had one or two questions involving audio. Is there any way to get Jack Audio working on an ARM processor, this one in particular? I've read enough to know that they don't play nice together, but I've read of some success getting it to work with the ARM based Pandaboard through an external audio interface compatible with Ubuntu/Linux. I'd much rather prefer the software way, but anything would be awesome.
And I guess that's part of my second question: Is there any way to get USB midi interfaces or Audio Interfaces recognized? Maybe recognized is the wrong word, because I scanned the ports with my Korg microkey plugged in, and it saw a device labeled KORG, but I think I need to be able to use a midi softsynth like timidity or fluidsynth to have it translate to an application.
I'm already really impressed with this build, and linux in general, I know it's very midi capable, it recognized my psx controllers hooked up with a super dual box pro, and as two seperate midi game controllers no less with fully working thumb axis controllers (which is more than I can say for android).
I should also mention that I'm really interested in this because LMMS (Linux MultiMedia Studio), Audacity, and the Hydrogen sampler all seem to be up and running really well on Tubuntu, I mean I'm more than happy with that. I can even use an adapter to split the microphone input and audio output in the headphone jack so I can plug my guitar, bass, and microphones in and record directly into Audacity. More than I ever could've imagined doing with this hardware.
And anyone who's into audio production or beat making, you should really check out LMMS on Tubuntu, full of instruments, plugin effects, and an Sf2 (soundfont) player, all with really manageble latency considering.
so even though I'm happy where it's at, I'm just wondering if that one small, yet crucial and difficult to work around, piece can be figured out. Jack would open the system up to programs like Ardour, Rosegarden, Musecore (which actually works but crashes when you try to go into preferences and can't play sound, think it's automatically configured to jack or alsa_seq), and Traverso, which all start up, but can't really be used without Jack; or the world of guitar amp modeling, as there's a way to get a guitar signal in.
Sorry for the long post, but I am really excited by the sheer number of things that are already working in this build (not even mentioning GIMP or Libreoffice).
Really, thanks to everyone for their hard work on this. Hope to hear from someone on the issue.
Oh, and I should warn anyone who might try, excessive installing and uninstalling of audio drivers/midi drivers seems to lead to instability in the system, I've reflashed and started from scratch many times in the last few days.
Also, also, I usually found my self in search of snd-seq modprobe file/directory, that seemed to be the thing that couldn't be found and connected to jack most often.
Alright, thanks again.