Develop an Air Play app for Android (Stream any audio to any reciever) - Android General

For those of you not familiar with Rogue Amoeba they are the developers of a very popular iOS/OS X and now Windows application called Airfoil that is capable of streaming any audio source to any Airplay capable device or any device with their "Airspeaker" app installed on it.
As you can imagine they have had great success with this app. Unfortunately they have no plans to develop a version for android. This was made clear in a post in February located here:
rogueamoeba.com/utm/2012/02/18/sending-any-audio-to-android-devices-via-airplay-with-airfoil/
I also contacted Paul Kafasis (CEO of RA) and his response was the same explaining further that Android actively prevents access to it's audio making it nearly impossible to develop an app for android. I've included our conversation below as well.
ME:
I would like to officially submit my request to have the Airfoil app developed for Android.
With over 300,000,0000 android devices sold worldwide as of February 2012 (over 10 times the amount of iOS devices despite a 16 month head start) and another 850,0000 activated every day the potential here is absolutely enormous.
Please seriously reconsider your decision to not develop for android at this time.
PAUL:
Hi Drew,
It's an interesting idea, but at this time, I'm afraid we have no plans for Airfoil for Android. While Android allows for more access than iOS, it's still nearly impossible to grab another application's audio to send it out. As such, Airfoil for Android is a difficult proposition at best.
Perhaps more likely is an Airfoil Speakers client for Android, enabling you to *receive* audio on Android. We don't have any announced plans for that either, but it's likely what you'd see first, before an Airfoil for Android.
Anyhow, we'll keep our eye on the platform, and see what happens!
ME:
Paul,
Thanks for the quick response. I am not a programmer so I won't pretend to know the complexities involved with grabbing the audio output of the device and redirecting it but I wouldn't think it would be extremely difficult to redirect all audio on the device no different than when you plug in a set of headphones or send your audio over Bluetooth. This is what I believe to be the primary feature of your software. Being able to set each app individually to use airplay as a receiver would be nice but certainly not necessary for initial releases. I would hate to see someone beat you to it since you've done such a great job on your iOS, OS X and Windows applications.
PAUL:
Drew,
You wouldn't think so, no, but it is. Android simply does not make this functionality possible, and actively prevents it.
Anyway,
Where I'm getting with all this is that a lot of people would like to see an app with this capability developed for android. Especially now that a large number of devices (receivers, speakers, etc.) in recent years have started to come with airplay compatibility out of the box. People have been requesting this from Airfoil for over 2 years with no response. I was hoping to get the following answered from someone with an intimate knowledge of the capabilities of android:
1. Is it possible to develop an app that is capable of routing all audio on an android device to an Airplay device?
2. If not possible on a locked device, is it possible on a unlocked/rooted device?
3. Is this something anyone on here would be capable or interested in developing?
Thanks for all the help.

Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?

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Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?
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I would LOVE to see an app like that! My whole house is wired for airplay with 6 zones and speakers in all ceilings. Iphones can play music in any room. Only app for Android is Honey Player and that is terribly buggy
It would be awesome if it was just possible to send ALL audio like bluetooth A2DP !!!

I just wanted to add my desire for such an app as well. I have airfoil all set up so I can stream from my laptop to my HTPC but it would be awesome if I could do it from my Android phone and tablet.
There must be a developer on here that could do such a thing and I for one would be willing to donate.

The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here

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The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here
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DLNA is fine for streaming media files from one device to another but it is not capable of streaming media from a streaming service. I.e. streaming Google music or Tune In via airplay to your home stereo. Really the only solution to date is airplay or bluetooth and bluetooth just doesn't have the range. AM I missing some other solution?

iMediaShare has Airplay capabilities, I use it to stream to my AppleTV(s).

iMediaShare is not compatible with Airport Express at the moment...I tool would be willing to pay for an "Airfoil for android" type application the key being that it can send ANY audio source to the Airport Express.

Plus 1!
I am still looking for this! My apple days are over, but I still own 3 Airport Express devices and 1 appleTV.

JB has ability to do USB audio. Are we getting any closer to "airfoil-like" app for android. I too have 4 zones set up in whole house audio, and hate my first gen ipad these days. Whoever makes this app will make some serious money on the market.

Any news regarding this...?
Seriously... this would be a gold mine for the developer. There are so many Airplay speakers out there that would make playing music to your speakers so much easier.
Isn't it possible to root your device and send all sound output directly to an airplay device?
Sincerely
L

Airplay for Android? I think i'll try that!
i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.

dcbartlett said:
i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.

dcbartlett said:
i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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I'd be interested in this as well. My GF has a airport express that I would love to stream to from my tablet/phone.

Negreac said:
It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.
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While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)

Just wanted to add my support for something like this. I would gladly pay money for this app. I have a Galaxy S2 skyrocket and a Nexus 7. I would love to be able to use my nexus 7 as an audio receiver and stream music from my phone (Play Music / Pandora / Songza / etc) to it. I realize I could set up these apps on the n7 itself and play directly that way, but the key is having the ability to control the music from my phone. Additionally, my friends who have Android phones and the app should be able to do the same with relative ease.
Currently I have AirFoil on my laptop and Android HiFi installed on my n7 and stream music that way. That is less than ideal. I don't understand why this is so difficult? But then again, I'm not a programmer.
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While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)
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I guess that works. I feel like it's kind of overkill and it sucks that you'd have to daisy-chain using both bluetooth and a laptop/desktop. But in the absence of anything else, we have to make due, right?

Airfoil can't intercept audio from the bluetooth stack server, I've tried.

I am also interested in such app

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I am also interested in such app
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We all are. It is shocking nothing has come of this.

It is indeed shocking. I'm guessing there's not a lot of work being done because it is too difficult (though I don't quite understand why that is). I am hoping Google blesses us with miracast in the next release.

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something like Airfoil for android??

Hi
need some help to find a app that will let me stream music from my X10 to other devices that are connected just like Airfoil.
If i play music or a movie on my x10 and send/hijack this to a tv or stereo using the wifi, airport or mha DNLA. Is there a app for this??
Please help me out.
I use Bluetooth to stream MP3 and Youtube (sound only) to my stereo.
Is this what you are after?
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I use Bluetooth to stream MP3 and Youtube (sound only) to my stereo.
Is this what you are after?
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Yes something like that but i will be able to use the wifi or airport, dnla. so i can stream spotify, grooveshark or video from my x10 and se it on, TV or play music in my stereo.
How does bluetooth and stream work, do you use a app??
Have you had a look at iMediashare in the market? I use it to stream from my Dinc to my WDTV LIVE. Only done music and images, so can't speak as to whether it does video effectively or not.
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Digging up this old thread. Did you find a solution for it?
iMediashare is limited by content it can read. ie. cant play Spotify or Google Music wich would be my main purpose of this.
Anyone know of an app that would work?
Help
I have the same problem.
Need a app for getting my spotify (on galaxy s2) to my Apple TV 2gen.
That would be epic!
most def Would be awsome to stream Napster from android to wifi speaker device., airport or whatever
try twonky mobile
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try twonky mobile
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As far a i can see, this has the same limitations as iMediashare that i mentioned earlier. It cant play from Spotify/Google Music.
Does anyone know if this is even possible on Android? I am considering trying to develop an app to do this myself as i really miss this possibility both on my tablet and phone.
I second that request
I also really need this feature, What airfoils does for windows, i need on my 3.2 tablet and 4.0 phone.
the ability to grab sound from any program running, and sent it to any DLNA compatibly unit on the network. Airport express, windows media player and so on.
Like Mixy says, all the programs that i have found a limited to share the content that they can play.
A Android Airfoil remote, would do the trick in my case. So that my windows server, running XBMC was the source of the sound, if i only could remote turn on Airfoil speakers from my phone.
I would recommend all interested to send a mail to Rogue Amoeba (dev of Airfoil), saying you are interested in this app. I've done so, but showing increased interest would be good.
I'm interested too ! Looking for something like the sonos solution but using a wifi network connected device and operating through something like airfoil for android. Any reply from Rogue Amoeba ?
I just sent Rogue Amoeba a message, will let everyone know there response.
This is what i got the last time i mailed them:
Hi Fredrick, As far as sending audio FROM Android out, it's unlikely we'll be doing that (though we'll see). We do hope to introduce an Airfoil Speakers (the receiving end) client for Android - we'll see what happens in the future.
-Paul
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I should also add that I am playing with the idea of making something like this myself. I dug around in the Android SDK and could not find anything to get audio-stream from other apps. This is due to security of apps and their content. Spotify does not want their stream to be able to be recorded etc.
I'm no dev, so my research is slow, but from what i can tell this app would require root, and possibly also injection of code into the ALSA library used by Android.
I also received a response:
Thanks for getting in touch with us. Currently, our mobile development plans are only to improve upon Airfoil Speakers Touch for iOS devices. However, we're evaluating interest in extending Airfoil Speakers to other platforms, so this sort of feedback definitely helps. So, stay tuned for updates from us and do let us know if you've got any other questions or issues.
Mixy your finding makes sens. Maybe find a equalizers program, they also must grab the sound from playing apps, right ?
But then a again, what i really need is the ability to toggle playing sound unit.
I wrote this trough Rogue Amoeba support page.
http://getsatisfaction.com/rogueamoeba/topics/airfoil_for_android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849097
I like to toggle speakers playing on a windows airfoil from my android.
and second i like a airfoil grabber for android, so that all sound are transmitted.
So the windows server can see that transmit and you can from your android unit, control the windows server and on that server's airfoil speakers press receive from android unit.
Completing android in the Airplay/DLNA wonder world
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What about emulating a Bluetooth speaker ?
Still protected by SDK limits ?
All sounds are passed through to the speaker, can it be grabbed here and sent to a dnla unit ?
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This is the answer from Rogue Amoeba, disappointing answer. So i guess its time to look for another program, that does what airfoil does but + android support.
Hi there,
At this time, we have no plans for Android versions of any of our software, but we'll see what happens.
-Paul
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Paul Kafasis
Rogue Amoeba Software, LLC
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Hi guys, I'm very interested too with an app that allows you to send Spotify to an Airplay receiver ... I heard about a plugin for Doubletwist that allows you to stream what you're listenning with this player to Airplay ... So maybe you could check for this to allow streaming every audio programs that are played ? I'm not a dev so ...
Good luck if you try to make an app by yourself, I really hope it'll be working and I would be the first owner !
Its true that you can play mp3 files to an airplay reciever, but that is because the program "owns" the music.
In the case of Spotify, the Spotify app owns the music, and thus it would have to hijack the audio-stream

Use Android phone as DLNA renderer

Hi,
I am sorry if this topic previously has been discussed, butI have googled it for some time and haven't found any solutions.
I need to be abla to beam music from one android phone to another, i.e. use the phone as media renderer. I have two old android phones which I use only for sound in my bed room and living room. I would therefore want a way to control these phones from my primary phones. There are some ways to use them as media servera, etc., but I cant't the solution.
So, please help wouldn't this be possible? I guess a lot of people out there have old phones, which could be awesome to control from remote.
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Nice idea!
Hi, this is actually a interesting idea! I have an old G1 and if it can be recognized as a renderer I
Could plug it to external speakers and beam music to it from my Desire.
Result : cheap wireless speakers system!
I'm sure that someone must have tried this before.
Any experience to share?
BUMP
no news on this?
Will Skifta work? (Its on the market)
Thanks for your answer, but Skifta works exactly as other Android streaming apps - the music on the tv/computer can be controlled, not the other way around. I want to remote control the music on android from remote (e.g. from another android device).
Have you tried twonkey media?
It should do the trick... need to install it on both phones, then set one up as the library and the other as the output.
No, I have already tried Twonky player, but it does not allow me to beam the music from on android phone to another. If have two phones, A and B, I want to be able to control the music player on B, which is connected to the hifi in the livingroom from phone A, which is in the kitchen. Twonky, and other options allows me to stream music from phone B to A, but I want to control the B player, which I am nowhere close to. Does that make sense? It has to work like Gmote, where it is possible to control music from the phone on the computer, but here I want to control the music on B instead of a computer.
Ah, I see. You have a phone connected to your stereo playing music. You want to be able to control that phone with another one wirelessly.
I think you are SOL... I haven't heard of anything like that. You may be able to cobble something together with Tasker and gtalk/sms messages (ie. send a message like "next song" to the other phone that Tasker picks up and performs the action).
I've been looking for this as well to repurpose my HTC Hero and have finally found it!
An app called ArcMC Media Server and Player (market link) can turn any phone into a DLNA receiver. You can then use your other phone as the server with Twonky or similar. I almost made an additional hardware purchase for this but now my old phone does it just as well.
The app looks new which might explain why no one has found it and the bad review average so far. Also it requires 2.2 which may be a limitation for some. Installing a custom rom can fix that though.
edit: sorry, I may be confused. I want my new phone "play to" my old phone. For that my old phone needed to be a receiver, which Twonky does not do. The media lives on and is controlled by my new phone, I just use my old phone to receive it and output it to the speakers.
BubbleUPnP
FYI
I just found this app, which looks promising...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118891
I will install this on my HD2 that is connected to my outdoor speakers and I will then hopefully be abe to control the music from my Galaxy S2...
Cheers
Jonas
Here's one for ya... i went from an iphone 4 to an Atrix (woo hoo!) and would like to control my iphone music from my android. it is jail broken.
I know it's a long shot but figure'd it's the XDA forum, ya never know.
I can push YouTube videos from a phone that has Twonky Beam installed to a phone with ArkMC installed. I tried it with Samsung Infuse and Samsung Captivate.
jonolo said:
FYI
I just found this app, which looks promising...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118891
I will install this on my HD2 that is connected to my outdoor speakers and I will then hopefully be abe to control the music from my Galaxy S2...
Cheers
Jonas
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Of the apps mentioned so far in this thread, BubbleUPNP is the one I found the most stable and most useful.
I'm using it to stream from my PC, from foobar with the uPNP plugin. Winamp is my preferred music player but foobar just works so smoothly as a control point for uPNP that there's not even a choice!
adrianconst said:
I can push YouTube videos from a phone that has Twonky Beam installed to a phone with ArkMC installed. I tried it with Samsung Infuse and Samsung Captivate.
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ArkMC now supports YouTube as well. It's possible to subscribe for YT channels and share them to DLNA/UPnP device in local network.
Android Renderer
+1 for Arkmc . Using it for almost 1 year as a renderer on my old HTC.

Stream all audio overairplay?

Looking for an app that will stream all system audio over airplay (example would be airport express).
An example of why this would be really great would be for Apps like Rdio and Spotify. By having an application agnostic way to stream it would work for numerous apps. I know there are players out in the market that do play to airplay speakers, however the audio has to come from them (IE would not work streaming based applications).
Anyone have any thoughts or know of any apps that could do this?
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I would think not. I honestly don't know what's so good about airplay. I have bluetooth and my ipod touch can play music to that with no problem!
Anyway, you probably could find a way to do it however, since it isn't cooked into the OS, you probably don't have a hope.
Oh, and Air Play doesn't work with every ipod touch app either, unless you know a very special trick (and perhapse a jailbreak).
I am sorry about this.
Try Doubletwist.
What i like about airplay is the integration into my home theater system. My home theater has numerous available sources and 3x sets of speakers for different sections of the house. This allows me to play what i want where i want it.
If I could get some sort of bluetooth device that has a range of 150 feet (as i can be on the deck or anywhere in the house) then that works. Any suggestions?
I thinks its a very low likelihood that anything exists now.
The base parts are there: the bluetooth audio redirects system audio, and other apps stream to airplay. So its a matter of combining them.
aibo: I was under the impression that doubletwist will play to airplay only if the audio plays through it. IE music local to the device. If doubletwist would allolw music played from the rdio or spotify app that would be what i want.
also very interested in this. looking for an app that can play ALL phone audio over airplay.
yes, bluetooth is great, but has the distinct disadvantage of shorter range than wifi (used by airplay).
anyone know of anything?
DLNA
Your stereo probably has DLNA support, so you could try finding an app for that. DLNA is almost identical to AirPlay. I don't know why Apple made their own system instead of just implementing DLNA.
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Your stereo probably has DLNA support, so you could try finding an app for that. DLNA is almost identical to AirPlay. I don't know why Apple made their own system instead of just implementing DLNA.
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DLNA poses the same problem. There is no method of pushing *all* sound through DLNA only sound from the DLNA enabled apps. I too would love *some* systemwide method of streaming other than bluetooth, but I have yet to find one. One that does audio and video would be perfect. The HDMI cable works great, but I have broken 1 cable and 1 adapter because the point where the mini HDMI goes into the wire/adapter is the weak point in the event of cable flex.
As to the question of why Apple made a new system it is pretty simple. Apple gets a royalty from every iDock device sold as it is their patent, the same holds true for airplay, they get a royalty for every airplay device sold. They feel they have the market share to force users to purchase these devices. And let's face it, for whatever reason the Android manufacturers missed the boat on this one. If Android had established a standard A/V port on every device we too would have a mutitude of docks to connect our devices to, but it never happened. That is the one and only thing I wish we had from the Apple world.
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DLNA poses the same problem. There is no method of pushing *all* sound through DLNA only sound from the DLNA enabled apps. I too would love *some* systemwide method of streaming other than bluetooth, but I have yet to find one. One that does audio and video would be perfect. The HDMI cable works great, but I have broken 1 cable and 1 adapter because the point where the mini HDMI goes into the wire/adapter is the weak point in the event of cable flex.
As to the question of why Apple made a new system it is pretty simple. Apple gets a royalty from every iDock device sold as it is their patent, the same holds true for airplay, they get a royalty for every airplay device sold. They feel they have the market share to force users to purchase these devices. And let's face it, for whatever reason the Android manufacturers missed the boat on this one. If Android had established a standard A/V port on every device we too would have a mutitude of docks to connect our devices to, but it never happened. That is the one and only thing I wish we had from the Apple world.
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I totally agree. Wouldn't it be nice if we could stream all our audio to wireless (airplay) docks....
Says an owner of a BW Zeppelin Air
MP3's is no problem at all, but Radio, Podcasts or games would even be better

[Q] Video Streaming?

One thing i really miss from my time spent with iPhone is airplay, used it everyday.
Since jumping on to WP7 i have searched hi & low for a streaming solution and haven`t found one yet.
So my question, is there any video/music streaming option for Mac to WP7 out there?
That might actually be worth developing. Bear in mind that WP7 users who run OS X PCs are going to be an extremely niche market, though. There are two ways that I can see to do it, though:
* Write a WP7 app that acts as a client for a current streaming service on OS X / iTunes. Make sure the stream can be decoded on the phone and that the service recognizes the app, but neither should be too hard (WP7 already recognizes most of Apple's codecs).
* Write a WP7 app that acts as a client to a dedicated media server app. Write that dedicated media server app, for OS X and possibly other platforms. The server would take care of ensuring WP7 compatibility. You'd need Apple dev tools (which is expensive, for somebody who currently owns no Apple hardware) and knowledge of writing good server code, though.
For HTC phones, you can download "Connected Media" from the HTC section of marketplace. Although not the greatest player, it does allow you to play non-DRM music and videos stored in your library (no streaming) to DLNA receivers. I use it to play to my Linksys Extender of my Media Center every once in a while.
@spokanedj: I think the OP is looking for the other direction, streaming files from the PC (Mac, in this case) to the phone. I'm guessing the goal is working around the limited storage on the phone for people with a really big media library.
I enjoy watching tv-shows when laying in bed, so yes im only interested in streaming.
I saw on https://www.emitapp.com/ that wp7 app coming soon.
I used emit on android, it wasnt perfect but i did the job

[Q] Any Miracast pc software options?

I recently picked up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2. It supports Allshare Cast, which is essentially Samsung's version of Miracast, but requires an Allshare Cast dongle. I've reached a point where I'm no longer buying a bunch of expensive accessories for a phone I'll probably have for a year or 2.
I also have an iPad 3. Using a program called Airserver, I can mirror my iPad's display onto my media center PC. I thought I would be able to do with with my Note 2 and the Allshare PC software, but the software doesn't support Allshare Cast (and likely never will, since they seem interested in getting people to buy the proprietary dongle). It only supports Allshare Play, which is DLNA and unsuitable since it requires that the recipient device decode the file and won't allow sending everything on my phone to my PC.
Android 4.2 is supposed to integrate Miracast into the OS natively, so I figured I can use this to mirror my phone's display on my PC. However, I can't find any PC software that acts as a Miracast receiver (much like Airserver works for iPhones/iPads). Does anyone know of any Windows software that will act as a Miracast receiver and allow me to mirror my phone's screen on my PC?
Thanks
I too have been looking for exactly this but have yet to find anything. Hopefully someone will come up with a solution soon.
this needs to be possible?? surely this can be done
Gutted.
I was really hoping I could do that for my nexus 4, but I'm fairly sure I won't be able to by any kind of dongle for my old TV
Bump.
I just ordert my nexus 4 and was searching for a windows 7 miracast server but found non.
Acording to Wikipedia its possible
Microsoft does not natively support Miracast in the new released Windows 8 and RT, but Windows software developers can implement Miracast easily, as Wi-Fi Direct is present as of Windows 7[19].
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But I didnt even found a Dev-Thread...
@SiMBol10: The PTV3000 by Netgear might be the dongle you have been looking for
Does somebody know a Software Solution? Maybe a Wi-Fi Direct tool which can mit modulated?!
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greetz
This is something I've been searching for as well now that I have my Nexus 4.
Has anyone figured anything out for this? I really really want to be able to do this, but cannot figure this out at all
It doesn't seem so yet.
the documentation for miracast is terrible for it to be open there isn't a lot of documentation about how to use and implement i was able to find out about android transporter http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...=tZFeed5a7Jq6cfqPbAFfBw&bvm=bv.42661473,d.dmQ
and on the miracast wiki page there is a link to software called mirrorop nothing much outside of this though that I could find http://www.mirrorop.com/
i really want to be able to have miracast software/api/sdk implemented into xbmc that will allow me to have airplay and miracast all in one solution
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the documentation for miracast is terrible for it to be open there isn't a lot of documentation about how to use and implement i was able to find out about android transporter http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...=tZFeed5a7Jq6cfqPbAFfBw&bvm=bv.42661473,d.dmQ
and on the miracast wiki page there is a link to software called mirrorop nothing much outside of this though that I could find http://www.mirrorop.com/
i really want to be able to have miracast software/api/sdk implemented into xbmc that will allow me to have airplay and miracast all in one solution
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I'm also looking for library/sdk Miracast information but didn't fount anything interesting so far.
I already have multiple devices that can implement this solution : Popcorn Hour, Freebox (French ISP Media player), Raspberry Pi...
There really is no need to buy another device for this, one of these devices must have the ability to implement this very interesting technology.
If anybody have further information about this, I really am interested.
From what I've gathered, Miracast is merely a certification program (sauce), and not an open standard. The Miracast website itself refers to the possibility of buying the specs, for moneys.
Thus, to develop Miracast thingies legally, you'd have to buy the specs (which, amazingly, costs mere a three-figure sum), submit it to the Wi-Fi Alliance for certification, probably wait a long time, and then you're allowed to publish it. Closed source, most likely.
I'm afraid that you are right. What a pity.
mumpfpuffel said:
From what I've gathered, Miracast is merely a certification program, and not an open standard. The Miracast website itself[ refers to the possibility of buying the specs, for moneys.
Thus, to develop Miracast thingies legally, you'd have to buy the specs (which, amazingly, costs mere a three-figure sum), submit it to the Wi-Fi Alliance for certification, probably wait a long time, and then you're allowed to publish it. Closed source, most likely.
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That's close, but it's not entirely true. Miracast is pretty much a certification program, but it certifies devices for the "Wi-Fi Display" specification, which does cost money to access for non Wi-Fi Alliance members to access. $199.00 to be exact. How unfortunate I don't think that there is any technical reason why Miracast mirroring software cannot exist for Windows, especially Windows 8, which includes a new Win32 API for Wi-Fi Direct.
Note: I tried to publish source links, but I don't have enough posts All of the information that I have posted is available on the Wi-Fi Alliance's website.
UPDATE: There are copies of the spec floating around on the internet if you look hard. After a quick look over the 150-ish pages of the spec, I'm still not seeing any reason why this could not be implemented in Windows. It's complex for an amateur dev like myself, but I might take a crack at it.
just of today i saw some news of a piece of hardware called DWD-300 from LG, it's not yet available, but it's a dongle you can connect with hdmi to make older hdmi tvs miracast compatible, it's a wifi direct receiver. maybe you can connect it to the pc as well as far as it has got hdmi video input.
seems they are already selling it in south korea for 110 USD.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/LG-Wireless-...828?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7fe6caec
maybe the only possible solution as of right now as far as you are running android 4.2.x
mirrorop(DOT)com/receivers
Found this today, not sure how well it would work, but it's worth a shot. Sorry for the link formatting, don't have 10 posts yet.
jag3498 said:
mirrorop(DOT)com/receivers
Found this today, not sure how well it would work, but it's worth a shot. Sorry for the link formatting, don't have 10 posts yet.
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- You need to ROOT your device before using this sender.
- This sender CANNOT support audio projection.
Let's stay on topic
I know LG and other companies have hardware dongles to add mirroring to older TV's, but that's not the question/topic of this thread. The idea is to mirror an Android phone on a PC screen. Unless the dongle can be connected to the PC, no dice.
Let me explain the purpose for this setup. I have an Android phone, a W7Prox64 Media Center that records TV, plays Blu-ray, streams movies/music, plays games, and serves the same functioning as an Apple TV's mirroring feature (I can mirror an iPhone or iPad to my Media Center with a program called AirServer; you just turn on mirroring an a window automatically appears and maximizes with the iDevice's screen. Unfortunately, I also have a family that fails to understand how the input button on a TV works. I don't want a dongle to plug in my TV, because then someone would have to change an input and next thing you know, there I am "fixing" the tv (pressing the input button). I'm looking for something like Air Server, but that also mirrors my Android device. Again, no boxes, no dongles, no extra hardware of any kind. I'm tired of buying tech and having to re-buy it when I change my phone. A PC is capable of doing anything a dongle can do, and I'm not out 80 bucks every year.
I swear, if they make an iPhone with a +5-inch screen, I'm defecting. It's 2013 and this is ridiculous.
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I know LG and other companies have hardware dongles to add mirroring to older TV's, but that's not the question/topic of this thread. The idea is to mirror an Android phone on a PC screen. Unless the dongle can be connected to the PC, no dice.
Let me explain the purpose for this setup. I have an Android phone, a W7Prox64 Media Center that records TV, plays Blu-ray, streams movies/music, plays games, and serves the same functioning as an Apple TV's mirroring feature (I can mirror an iPhone or iPad to my Media Center with a program called AirServer; you just turn on mirroring an a window automatically appears and maximizes with the iDevice's screen. Unfortunately, I also have a family that fails to understand how the input button on a TV works. I don't want a dongle to plug in my TV, because then someone would have to change an input and next thing you know, there I am "fixing" the tv (pressing the input button). I'm looking for something like Air Server, but that also mirrors my Android device. Again, no boxes, no dongles, no extra hardware of any kind. I'm tired of buying tech and having to re-buy it when I change my phone. A PC is capable of doing anything a dongle can do, and I'm not out 80 bucks every year.
I swear, if they make an iPhone with a +5-inch screen, I'm defecting. It's 2013 and this is ridiculous.
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I agree with you completely. When I do a search for this, I frequently only find the posts that I myself have made over the years. I can't stand Apple, but no one seems to be able to tell me what separates an iPhone from everything else, and why it can't be done on anything else. Even it's a "Apple will sue you" issue, you'd think that someone in the android community would tell em to get bent, and make it happen anyway. Several apps claim to do this, but none work as flawlessly as Airplay with Airserver or Reflections. I'm on the Galaxy S4 now, and the wait for someone like this for Android is getting a bit ridiculous.
jezra78 said:
I know LG and other companies have hardware dongles to add mirroring to older TV's, but that's not the question/topic of this thread. The idea is to mirror an Android phone on a PC screen. Unless the dongle can be connected to the PC, no dice.
Let me explain the purpose for this setup. I have an Android phone, a W7Prox64 Media Center that records TV, plays Blu-ray, streams movies/music, plays games, and serves the same functioning as an Apple TV's mirroring feature (I can mirror an iPhone or iPad to my Media Center with a program called AirServer; you just turn on mirroring an a window automatically appears and maximizes with the iDevice's screen. Unfortunately, I also have a family that fails to understand how the input button on a TV works. I don't want a dongle to plug in my TV, because then someone would have to change an input and next thing you know, there I am "fixing" the tv (pressing the input button). I'm looking for something like Air Server, but that also mirrors my Android device. Again, no boxes, no dongles, no extra hardware of any kind. I'm tired of buying tech and having to re-buy it when I change my phone. A PC is capable of doing anything a dongle can do, and I'm not out 80 bucks every year.
I swear, if they make an iPhone with a +5-inch screen, I'm defecting. It's 2013 and this is ridiculous.
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Oh yes, it's ON.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/3/4391124/windows-8-1-miracast-display-support-hotspot-tethering
Microsoft website offers this software for download at 133MB !!
On the tin says:
The file above contains the IntelĀ® Wireless Display Software for Microsoft Windows 7* (32 bit and 64 bit versions)
I'm downloading and testing this now. Will report back.
EDIT: looks like this is wireless display server software rather than client software.

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