Hi,
I want to set up a whole house media center, I have a xbmc server running in my house and a windows 7 pc which I can stream from also.
I have seen applications for andriod like 2player and skifta which allow me to stream music from these devices and it offers the ability to stream to other devices.
Can anyone advise me how I could set up a second android phone as a receiver. Since android phones are now so cheap I think it would be quite nice to have multiple android devices to act as receivers around my home.
I would aim to start a application like 2player on my own personal phone, choose my pc or xbmc server as source and then choose the music to play on one of the android phone.
Can anyone advise how to set this up as I don't know how to get the android phones to listen for streams.or even any alternative suggestions?
thanks in advance,
Dec
Hi guys,
Just to update this post last night I spent a bit of time researching this.
I found another app called "bubble upnp" which works as a dlna dmr.
I can see it all starting to come together now. I was able to stream from my xbmc server to another android phone running bubble upnp and using 2player on my own phone as the control point.
I am happy with this but I'm not sure if these are the best app's for this?
Also I think there maybe a small issue with power usage. I don't want to leave WiFi running on the end devices all the time. And or the dlna dmr app if possible.
I think sms gps can remotely turn on WiFi aswell as gps so this maybe a simple work around.
But not sure how to launch an app remotely on android phone.
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Hi All,
I'm looking for a good Streaming Video server that can be used on Android that works over cell networks (3G or 4G) and has tablet support. A giant bonus would be a server that is also a DLNA. Something with a Windows client would be pretty sweet as well. The TF will be my primary device, but I'd really like to be able to stream to my phone, laptop, and Blu-Ray player as well.
I'm currently using Plex, and it sucks. The server is buggy and laggy, doesn't find Metadata for shows unless they're named PERFECTLY, and won't show me videos that it can't find Metadata for. I will say the interface is fantastic, but it needs a lot of work.
I've read some good things about the VLC server, but it appears to not be very user friendly. While I'm technically savvy, I'd prefer to try something first that works just as well and doesn't require a difficult configuration.
Thoughts and recommendations please?
For those of you not familiar with Rogue Amoeba they are the developers of a very popular iOS/OS X and now Windows application called Airfoil that is capable of streaming any audio source to any Airplay capable device or any device with their "Airspeaker" app installed on it.
As you can imagine they have had great success with this app. Unfortunately they have no plans to develop a version for android. This was made clear in a post in February located here:
rogueamoeba.com/utm/2012/02/18/sending-any-audio-to-android-devices-via-airplay-with-airfoil/
I also contacted Paul Kafasis (CEO of RA) and his response was the same explaining further that Android actively prevents access to it's audio making it nearly impossible to develop an app for android. I've included our conversation below as well.
ME:
I would like to officially submit my request to have the Airfoil app developed for Android.
With over 300,000,0000 android devices sold worldwide as of February 2012 (over 10 times the amount of iOS devices despite a 16 month head start) and another 850,0000 activated every day the potential here is absolutely enormous.
Please seriously reconsider your decision to not develop for android at this time.
PAUL:
Hi Drew,
It's an interesting idea, but at this time, I'm afraid we have no plans for Airfoil for Android. While Android allows for more access than iOS, it's still nearly impossible to grab another application's audio to send it out. As such, Airfoil for Android is a difficult proposition at best.
Perhaps more likely is an Airfoil Speakers client for Android, enabling you to *receive* audio on Android. We don't have any announced plans for that either, but it's likely what you'd see first, before an Airfoil for Android.
Anyhow, we'll keep our eye on the platform, and see what happens!
ME:
Paul,
Thanks for the quick response. I am not a programmer so I won't pretend to know the complexities involved with grabbing the audio output of the device and redirecting it but I wouldn't think it would be extremely difficult to redirect all audio on the device no different than when you plug in a set of headphones or send your audio over Bluetooth. This is what I believe to be the primary feature of your software. Being able to set each app individually to use airplay as a receiver would be nice but certainly not necessary for initial releases. I would hate to see someone beat you to it since you've done such a great job on your iOS, OS X and Windows applications.
PAUL:
Drew,
You wouldn't think so, no, but it is. Android simply does not make this functionality possible, and actively prevents it.
Anyway,
Where I'm getting with all this is that a lot of people would like to see an app with this capability developed for android. Especially now that a large number of devices (receivers, speakers, etc.) in recent years have started to come with airplay compatibility out of the box. People have been requesting this from Airfoil for over 2 years with no response. I was hoping to get the following answered from someone with an intimate knowledge of the capabilities of android:
1. Is it possible to develop an app that is capable of routing all audio on an android device to an Airplay device?
2. If not possible on a locked device, is it possible on a unlocked/rooted device?
3. Is this something anyone on here would be capable or interested in developing?
Thanks for all the help.
Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?
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Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?
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I would LOVE to see an app like that! My whole house is wired for airplay with 6 zones and speakers in all ceilings. Iphones can play music in any room. Only app for Android is Honey Player and that is terribly buggy
It would be awesome if it was just possible to send ALL audio like bluetooth A2DP !!!
I just wanted to add my desire for such an app as well. I have airfoil all set up so I can stream from my laptop to my HTPC but it would be awesome if I could do it from my Android phone and tablet.
There must be a developer on here that could do such a thing and I for one would be willing to donate.
The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here
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The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here
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DLNA is fine for streaming media files from one device to another but it is not capable of streaming media from a streaming service. I.e. streaming Google music or Tune In via airplay to your home stereo. Really the only solution to date is airplay or bluetooth and bluetooth just doesn't have the range. AM I missing some other solution?
iMediaShare has Airplay capabilities, I use it to stream to my AppleTV(s).
iMediaShare is not compatible with Airport Express at the moment...I tool would be willing to pay for an "Airfoil for android" type application the key being that it can send ANY audio source to the Airport Express.
Plus 1!
I am still looking for this! My apple days are over, but I still own 3 Airport Express devices and 1 appleTV.
JB has ability to do USB audio. Are we getting any closer to "airfoil-like" app for android. I too have 4 zones set up in whole house audio, and hate my first gen ipad these days. Whoever makes this app will make some serious money on the market.
Any news regarding this...?
Seriously... this would be a gold mine for the developer. There are so many Airplay speakers out there that would make playing music to your speakers so much easier.
Isn't it possible to root your device and send all sound output directly to an airplay device?
Sincerely
L
Airplay for Android? I think i'll try that!
i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.
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i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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I'd be interested in this as well. My GF has a airport express that I would love to stream to from my tablet/phone.
Negreac said:
It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.
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While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)
Just wanted to add my support for something like this. I would gladly pay money for this app. I have a Galaxy S2 skyrocket and a Nexus 7. I would love to be able to use my nexus 7 as an audio receiver and stream music from my phone (Play Music / Pandora / Songza / etc) to it. I realize I could set up these apps on the n7 itself and play directly that way, but the key is having the ability to control the music from my phone. Additionally, my friends who have Android phones and the app should be able to do the same with relative ease.
Currently I have AirFoil on my laptop and Android HiFi installed on my n7 and stream music that way. That is less than ideal. I don't understand why this is so difficult? But then again, I'm not a programmer.
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joelshooty said:
While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)
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I guess that works. I feel like it's kind of overkill and it sucks that you'd have to daisy-chain using both bluetooth and a laptop/desktop. But in the absence of anything else, we have to make due, right?
Airfoil can't intercept audio from the bluetooth stack server, I've tried.
I am also interested in such app
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I am also interested in such app
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We all are. It is shocking nothing has come of this.
It is indeed shocking. I'm guessing there's not a lot of work being done because it is too difficult (though I don't quite understand why that is). I am hoping Google blesses us with miracast in the next release.
Hello all,
I've read a number of threads that dance around this topic/question but none that answer it.
Is there an App that will enable an Android smart phone to remotely control/advance a Powerpoint Presentation on an iPad via Wi-Fi or Blue Tooth?
...without jailbreaking the iPad?
FYI: I've come across a thread post offering this solution (enterpriseios website) but don't know if it'll work and would prefer not to try.
"If you jailbreak the device you are trying to control, yes. There is an app in Cydia called Veency that is a VNC server for iOS. You can then use Screen Sharing on the Mac, or one of the many free VNC clients (such as UltraVNC or TightVNC) on a Windows machine to view and control the target iOS device. You can even view/control the iOS device FROM another iOS device with a remote desktop app like Jump."
Greenster said:
Hello all,
I've read a number of threads that dance around this topic/question but none that answer it.
Is there an App that will enable an Android smart phone to remotely control/advance a Powerpoint Presentation on an iPad via Wi-Fi or Blue Tooth?
...without jailbreaking the iPad?
FYI: I've come across a thread post offering this solution (enterpriseios website) but don't know if it'll work and would prefer not to try.
"If you jailbreak the device you are trying to control, yes. There is an app in Cydia called Veency that is a VNC server for iOS. You can then use Screen Sharing on the Mac, or one of the many free VNC clients (such as UltraVNC or TightVNC) on a Windows machine to view and control the target iOS device. You can even view/control the iOS device FROM another iOS device with a remote desktop app like Jump."
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I know how to control your iPads media with your android device :
Developed by BOJA, iRemote iTunes WMP is an app that allows you to control your iTunes library using an Android smartphone. It works over both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and we found it to be the simplest and easiest to set up among the handful of apps available.
To get started, you will need to install the Android app on your phone along with a server app which you have to install on your Windows-based PC. Once the server is running on your computer, open up iRemote on your Android device to get started.
iRemote is a free WiFi and Bluetooth remote for iTunes and Windows Media Player WMP on Windows (XP,Vista,Win7)
Remote control iTunes and WMP on your Windows desktop, laptop, notbok or tablet. Plug in Apple AirPort Express to any speaker in the house and get the ultimate iTunes remote control sound system.
Enjoy the gourgouse [sic] UI and rich feature set of this inovating [sic] remote control. iRemote iTunes and WMP is the only dedicated iTunes and WMP remote control supporting both WiFi and Bluetooth connections.
No user settings required! Simple out of the box support connecting over WiFi and Bluetooth.
We have tested the app on our Samsung Galaxy S II unit and can confirm that it works as advertised. While it does do what it says, it looks spectacularly ugly in the process. I’m not saying this because I’m some sort of UI snob, but I do appreciate a user-interface which, at least, doesn’t make you look away in disgust.
Another issue we had with the app is how much of a dent it makes on the battery. In our limited testing (which didn’t last more than an hour), we found our phone’s battery going down faster than usual. Opening up Settings > About > Battery usage proved our suspicions to be true:
Still, it is certainly worth a try if you’re in the market for a remote app for your iTunes library. We couldn’t find a better alternative, but if you know of one, please let us know! We’d love to cover it!
There are two versions available: the Free one comes with ads, does not allow you to search your library for that one song and it also does not allow users to play a song by browsing artists or albums. The paid version, which costs $3.00, obviously lifts these limitations.
Clarification?
Problem. I don't think this answers my Q.
I'm looking for an APP to remote control "media" on an iPad (iOS) with an Android ...not iTunes media on a windows based PC.
Streetryders_2000 said:
I know how to control your iPads media with your android device :
Developed by BOJA, iRemote iTunes WMP is an app that allows you to control your iTunes library using an Android smartphone. It works over both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and we found it to be the simplest and easiest to set up among the handful of apps available.
To get started, you will need to install the Android app on your phone along with a server app which you have to install on your Windows-based PC. Once the server is running on your computer, open up iRemote on your Android device to get started.
iRemote is a free WiFi and Bluetooth remote for iTunes and Windows Media Player WMP on Windows (XP,Vista,Win7)
Remote control iTunes and WMP on your Windows desktop, laptop, notbok or tablet. Plug in Apple AirPort Express to any speaker in the house and get the ultimate iTunes remote control sound system.
Enjoy the gourgouse [sic] UI and rich feature set of this inovating [sic] remote control. iRemote iTunes and WMP is the only dedicated iTunes and WMP remote control supporting both WiFi and Bluetooth connections.
No user settings required! Simple out of the box support connecting over WiFi and Bluetooth.
We have tested the app on our Samsung Galaxy S II unit and can confirm that it works as advertised. While it does do what it says, it looks spectacularly ugly in the process. I’m not saying this because I’m some sort of UI snob, but I do appreciate a user-interface which, at least, doesn’t make you look away in disgust.
Another issue we had with the app is how much of a dent it makes on the battery. In our limited testing (which didn’t last more than an hour), we found our phone’s battery going down faster than usual. Opening up Settings > About > Battery usage proved our suspicions to be true:
Still, it is certainly worth a try if you’re in the market for a remote app for your iTunes library. We couldn’t find a better alternative, but if you know of one, please let us know! We’d love to cover it!
There are two versions available: the Free one comes with ads, does not allow you to search your library for that one song and it also does not allow users to play a song by browsing artists or albums. The paid version, which costs $3.00, obviously lifts these limitations.
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Hi All,
I recently purchased an MK908 and have been playing with it for awhile now. I've decided to try and use it as a central part of my AV setup, I'd like to make it my main media server, however one of the important pieces of software needed for this is a transcoding media server, I think these sticks have the horsepower to do this but in my research have yet to find a transcoding media server for android, plenty of clients out there and plenty of servers that just push video but nothing that seems to transcode anyone have insights on this? And another topic that's been bugging me, does anyone know of a torrent client, running on the stick, that allows remote control via a web interface or RDP? Anyway if either of these two pieces of software exist than these little sticks would truly be killer hardware.