Can't decide... - Asus Transformer TF700

Hi,
I still hesitate weather to flash Clean Rom or not.... it's not that I care much about loss of warranty, but I'm not familiar at all with these unlocking, rooting, flashing operations and not sure if I'll manage to do this flawless.
...so I still have a stupid hope that ASUS will solve all stock rom problems (lags, hiccups...etc) with JB 4.2.
Is it worth to wait and expect ASUS to update stock rom to the same level as Clean Rom is now (haven't seen myself ...only read in this forum)?

i am excatly in your position and feel the same way

SurferLTU said:
Hi,
I still hesitate weather to flash Clean Rom or not.... it's not that I care much about loss of warranty, but I'm not familiar at all with these unlocking, rooting, flashing operations and not sure if I'll manage to do this flawless.
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Read the guide threads. Invest some time to learn, you will be rewarded with a better tablet. (or an expensive brick, depending on how thoroughly you read the guides)
SurferLTU said:
...so I still have a stupid hope that ASUS will solve all stock rom problems (lags, hiccups...etc) with JB 4.2.
Is it worth to wait and expect ASUS to update stock rom to the same level as Clean Rom is now (haven't seen myself ...only read in this forum)?
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Unlikely. CleanROM contains so many tweaks and workarounds that are not suitable for inclusion in an official firmware.

SurferLTU said:
Hi,
I still hesitate weather to flash Clean Rom or not.... it's not that I care much about loss of warranty, but I'm not familiar at all with these unlocking, rooting, flashing operations and not sure if I'll manage to do this flawless.
...so I still have a stupid hope that ASUS will solve all stock rom problems (lags, hiccups...etc) with JB 4.2.
Is it worth to wait and expect ASUS to update stock rom to the same level as Clean Rom is now (haven't seen myself ...only read in this forum)?
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Trust me, cleanrom is super fast and smooth. It's worth it. When JB 4.2 come out, Cleanrom will have a new build on 4.2 and it will be even faster. Stock rom will always far behind. Currently we have all the automated scripts that do the install for us, so not to worry too much how this.
1. Unlock (download the unlock app and run it. No risk here, either it worked or failed, no harm)
2. Install recovery script to pust custom recovery (double click on the bat file and watch it does the rest)
3. Boot into recovery, select "install" browser to the romzip file and swipe to install
Reboot...profit!! The only downside is warranty, will be void if unlock. There is no news that JB 4.2 will be available for our tf700, so I won't hold my breath for this.

To my mind easiest way to get CROMI Installed for noob is to follow instructions in this tutorial video http://youtu.be/iank8iYulzo .
As this video is not very fresh and there are alreadt new versions of ADB tool, TWRP and CROM...I'm not sure if I can go step by step using newer versions of particular software....
Can anybody confirm that I can follow instructions on this tutorial using ADB tool ver 6 for update to CROMI 3.2 ?
I'm on stock JB 10.4.4.25

SurferLTU said:
To my mind easiest way to get CROMI Installed for noob is to follow instructions in this tutorial video http://youtu.be/iank8iYulzo .
As this video is not very fresh and there are alreadt new versions of ADB tool, TWRP and CROM...I'm not sure if I can go step by step using newer versions of particular software....
Can anybody confirm that I can follow instructions on this tutorial using ADB tool ver 6 for update to CROMI 3.2 ?
I'm on stock JB 10.4.4.25
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yes, look at the description under the video, the OP is updated with new link to twrp, adb version 5 and cleanrom 3.1x.

SurferLTU said:
Hi,
I still hesitate weather to flash Clean Rom or not.... it's not that I care much about loss of warranty, but I'm not familiar at all with these unlocking, rooting, flashing operations and not sure if I'll manage to do this flawless.
...so I still have a stupid hope that ASUS will solve all stock rom problems (lags, hiccups...etc) with JB 4.2.
Is it worth to wait and expect ASUS to update stock rom to the same level as Clean Rom is now (haven't seen myself ...only read in this forum)?
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Chiming in...
I wouldn't put much faith in any forthcoming incursions of Android.
Just custom ROM your tab and be happy.
The Jelly Bean\Project Butter performance bust was the last straw for me.

Ok then... few questions before unlocking...
Kernel.
What kernel shoud I choose? Generaly my target is to speed up browsing and to have battery life as long as possible ....so far as I understand I should choose Asus stock kernel? Is this right?
DPI.
What is stock DPI of TF700? I read in some posts that some people had problems with some apps because of choosing wrong DPI. What DPI should I choose in oreder to have as less probs as possible?
FSYNC.
Does disabling of FSYNC has significant impact on performace? Is it worth to mess with it?
Thanks in advance.

SurferLTU said:
Ok then... few questions before unlocking...
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Kernel.
What kernel shoud I choose? Generaly my target is to speed up browsing and to have battery life as long as possible ....so far as I understand I should choose Asus stock kernel? Is this right?
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yes-choose stock for battery life.
DPI.
What is stock DPI of TF700? I read in some posts that some people had problems with some apps because of choosing wrong DPI. What DPI should I choose in oreder to have as less probs as possible?
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240 is stock.
I have always chosen 240 until recently.
213 is working very well for me no problems.
FSYNC.
Does disabling of FSYNC has significant impact on performace? Is it worth to mess with it?
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This is the most important choice IMO I always disable Fsync.
I have never had a problem with disabling this and have seen nothing other than benefits.
Thanks in advance.
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you are more than welcome!

First impresion of clean rom is very very goooood
Even better than I expected!!!! :good:
Even with enabled fsync it flies.
Big respect to all developers!

I'm thinking the same thing. I've held off too long, think it's time to unlock this.
From watching that video it looks pretty straight forward. I'm 90% sure I'm going to take plunge this week. Hope I don't mess this up.

wifesabitch said:
I'm thinking the same thing. I've held off too long, think it's time to unlock this.
From watching that video it looks pretty straight forward. I'm 90% sure I'm going to take plunge this week. Hope I don't mess this up.
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Look at your signature, flashing is in your blood bro, still wondering why you waited this long??? Come on, let take this baby to the race track!!

Just follow instructions in that tutorial video made by german guy (big up to him!!!).
ADB tool ver 6 works perfectly.

buhohitr said:
Look at your signature, flashing is in your blood bro, still wondering why you waited this long??? Come on, let take this baby to the race track!!
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Kinda enjoyed not dealing with flashing, wiping, reinstalling, etc. all the time, I did that with my last phone what seemed like every day. I just couldn't stand HTC Sense and the bloatware, had to do it.
Unlike most here I don't mind the stock Asus firmware on this thing so I figured I'd save some free time and not mess around with anything. Now I'm kinda bored and really wanna see what this device is made of.
I'll probably get my SG3 going next!

wifesabitch said:
Kinda enjoyed not dealing with flashing, wiping, reinstalling, etc. all the time, I did that with my last phone what seemed like every day. I just couldn't stand HTC Sense and the bloatware, had to do it.
Unlike most here I don't mind the stock Asus firmware on this thing so I figured I'd save some free time and not mess around with anything. Now I'm kinda bored and really wanna see what this device is made of.
I'll probably get my SG3 going next!
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Trust me:
1) installing a custom Rom on the tf700 makes this bad boy fly! It is really night and day
2) Installing a custom Rom on a (contract free) SIII is super easy. Took me 30 seconds to root, no need to unlock and boom. You are ready to flash CWM (highly recommended for the SIII) and there you go: a cool custom rom for the SIII
(PS: For the tf700 I'd recommend to use TWRP as a recovery)

Thats OK said:
240 is stock.
I have always chosen 240 until recently.
213 is working very well for me no problems.
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Do you have a screenshot of a home screen with icons of each dpi for comparison?
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SurferLTU said:
To my mind easiest way to get CROMI Installed for noob is to follow instructions in this tutorial video http://youtu.be/iank8iYulzo .
As this video is not very fresh and there are alreadt new versions of ADB tool, TWRP and CROM...I'm not sure if I can go step by step using newer versions of particular software....
Can anybody confirm that I can follow instructions on this tutorial using ADB tool ver 6 for update to CROMI 3.2 ?
I'm on stock JB 10.4.4.25
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I'm in the same situation (TF700 is sitting at home now, freshly delivered this morning and I'm fighting the urge to have a 'family crisis' that needs my attention and ditch work). I started a thread to try an pull together an easy list with links to get from un-rooted, locked, stock to custom pleasure New (virgin/stock) TF700 to CROMI 3.2 - is this right? as well as check before I started that everything was right.
I think that I've got it sorted in post 6 and have spent a lot of time trawling the various forum posts. In the video you mention from saugstauber / Dominik is really good and he notes that as he hasn't rooted his device prior to starting that he needs to push the recovery via the ADB tool rather than GooManager (that needs root).
I hope to get cracking on it later and will try to document each stage of the process and write it up for the XDA community with some explanations of each stage.

I did it yesterday, it was super easy. No hiccups at all
Started with CleanROM, then decided to try BB7, but it was still a little too buggy. CleanROM seems more stable, back to that for now.
So far, I don't notice too much of a difference performance wise. It's still not smooth at all switching between applications and opening and closing them. Scrolling while browsing isn't any better either. Both my Kindle Fire and SG3 are still much smoother than this.
Oh well, I'm glad to be able to get rid of the bloatware at least.

wifesabitch said:
I did it yesterday, it was super easy. No hiccups at all
Started with CleanROM, then decided to try BB7, but it was still a little too buggy. CleanROM seems more stable, back to that for now.
So far, I don't notice too much of a difference performance wise. It's still not smooth at all switching between applications and opening and closing them. Scrolling while browsing isn't any better either. Both my Kindle Fire and SG3 are still much smoother than this.
Oh well, I'm glad to be able to get rid of the bloatware at least.
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Hm... strange... my experience with clean rom is very good....compared with stock rom browsing became pleasure...of course it is not perfect...but now I feel that I have different tablet.
Earlier l was getting "wait/close" message several times per day...now it's gone. Scrolling through pages is A LOT smoother. And generaly typing lagis almost gone...switching throw apps is a lot quicker. Youtube shows videos with any pauses.

I was in the exactely same situation of the OP, but decided to go to the flashing world for my new TF700.
I followed carefully every instruction a the flashing of CleanROM went well and now I have a new tablet. Ir is now really smooth and most of the lags are gone.
For you that are still hesitating I highly recommend unlocking and flashing CleanROM to see that you have a top device.
For your information the steps I took:
1) Unlocked
2) Installed ADB on my computer. Struggled a bit to set the path (which was not exactley the same as in the tutorial) but all went well.
3) Installed drivers via ADB tools.
3) Checked if ADB was correctly installed and the tablet recognized by pc.
4) Flashed TWRP via ADB.
5) Backed up device using TWRP.
6) Copied ROM to the tablet internal memory.
7) Flashed ROM, choosing modified stock kernel by thats_ok and kept fsync enabled.
8) Enjoyed a new tablet.

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[Q] Inspire 4g issues

Ok I first for a little info on me as this will be my first post. I recently switched to the inspire 4g from a JB Iphone. Just yesterday I Used Bubby's one click RC2. Everything went very smooth and ended up being far easier than I had anticipated, for that I would like to say thank you!
After using the phone for the last day and installing a few necessary apps I noticed that my flash player is not working. I downloaded Flash 10.2 I believe is the latest version. Still isn't working. For example prior to the root I was able to click on any video on facebook and it would play (while in the full browser, I dont like the app) Now after root it says flash player isnt supported when I click on a video.
Also I picked up Setpcu and after install found it will not allow any adjustments. Now my main question is do I need to find a suitable rom? Is there something I can look at on the phone that that would allow you guys to possibly identify the possible cause? Here is a picture of what software is currently on my phone.
w w w . i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g352/gingerhead_photoz/ScreenShot. png
it wont let me link it^^ yet with zero posts
The root is good as I have super user, romeditor titanium backup and a few other 3rd party apps installed and running and have restarted the phone to make sure everything worked and did not vanish from the phone. Any help and or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Lucas240 said:
Ok I first for a little info on me as this will be my first post. I recently switched to the inspire 4g from a JB Iphone. Just yesterday I Used Bubby's one click RC2. Everything went very smooth and ended up being far easier than I had anticipated, for that I would like to say thank you!
After using the phone for the last day and installing a few necessary apps I noticed that my flash player is not working. I downloaded Flash 10.2 I believe is the latest version. Still isn't working. For example prior to the root I was able to click on any video on facebook and it would play (while in the full browser, I dont like the app) Now after root it says flash player isnt supported when I click on a video.
Also I picked up Setpcu and after install found it will not allow any adjustments. Now my main question is do I need to find a suitable rom? Is there something I can look at on the phone that that would allow you guys to possibly identify the possible cause? Here is a picture of what software is currently on my phone.
w w w . i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g352/gingerhead_photoz/ScreenShot. png
it wont let me link it^^ yet with zero posts
The root is good as I have super user, romeditor titanium backup and a few other 3rd party apps installed and running and have restarted the phone to make sure everything worked and did not vanish from the phone. Any help and or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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I will start with set cpu. The stock rooted rom, doesn't com with a custom kernel. You are going to need a rom that has a custom kernel, or a custom kernel in general (compatibility matters) to over clock, undervolt, and have different options for how your cpu performs.
As far as flash player it sounds like a problem with the app it self. Though flashing a rom that has it installed and updated already wouldn't hurt.
I see, I guess I need to research installing a rom and what exactly is behind it. I mean it took me a month to finally root it as I was pretty skeptical after reading hundreds of pages of people having issuses haha. correct me if I am wrong, which is likely, the rom is what the device is reading to function and the kernel is what allows apps to function on the device? Is the installation of these two things two separate processes?
Lucas240 said:
I see, I guess I need to research installing a rom and what exactly is behind it. I mean it took me a month to finally root it as I was pretty skeptical after reading hundreds of pages of people having issuses haha. correct me if I am wrong, which is likely, the rom is what the device is reading to function and the kernel is what allows apps to function on the device? Is the installation of these two things two separate processes?
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If you need help with flashing check out my guide she is sticked at the top.
The best way I have heard it put is, the rom is what you see, and the kernel is what makes it happen.
Each app has its own programing (framework), which is why it reacts differently on different devices and roms.
It could be that flash player just didn't install correctly on your phone.
awesome, it was a bad install I deleted the update and reinstalled flash. Thanks for the simple tip, definitely going through the sticky tomorrow. Thanks!
Lucas240 said:
awesome, it was a bad install I deleted the update and reinstalled flash. Thanks for the simple tip, definitely going through the sticky tomorrow. Thanks!
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Welcome to xda. That was a thoughtful and intelligent first post of yours, btw.
Mudknot's guide really is great stuff. There's a reason why it's a sticky.
Inspired Ace 1.0.1¦ XDA Premium

Thinking of rooting, questions

Hey guys! New and proud TF300T owner. I got it last Friday and am absolutely LOVING it so far. This will be my 8th android device of all time and I am starting to get that itch to root it. First and foremost, i'm on the .30 firmware. This is the newest version and it updated as soon as i turned it on. I'm hoping that won't be a problem.
My first question, should i root? I'm loving ICS and i haven't seen a LOT of different ROMs available in the thread. Since this is my first android Tablet i'm sort of asking myself, why should i root? The Pad is very, very fast. The OS is nearly perfect. So i'm wondering, besides the obvious "Because we can" answer, why did you root yours?
I saw this guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588
Do you guys think its the best way to go? Should i unlock w/Asus tool before i start this guide? Can anyone recommend a rom? I heard CM10 is coming to the 300 and i have always loved Cyan since my days with the G1.
So, in conclusion.
1. What do you, personally, feel are the advantages?
2. Is the guide above the SAFEST way to root? (DEFINITELY don't want a brick)
3. Unlock bootloader?
4. Roms?
5. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Or - If it ain't root, lets break it? hehehe
Thanks in advance for your responses!!!
It all depends on you. I rooted mine and am using CM10 (Jellybean 4.1.1) and love it. Stock is actually pretty good though on this device, usually stock Android blows. I would think you would have to be dumb to brick your device at this stage, everything is pretty simple, and you have ways to getting back to stock with ease anyway.
This is what I did. I unlocked my boot loader using the tool from asus, I then flashed CMW from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668173 , after booting into fast boot (power on, hold down vol, on the next screen you have three icons, select the middle one), and then flashed the root file. You have to put your ROMs you want to flash on the tablet memory, CMW doesn't support external memory yet.
Have fun!
Turbojugend said:
It all depends on you. I rooted mine and am using CM10 (Jellybean 4.1.1) and love it. Stock is actually pretty good though on this device, usually stock Android blows. I would think you would have to be dumb to brick your device at this stage, everything is pretty simple, and you have ways to getting back to stock with ease anyway.
This is what I did. I unlocked my boot loader using the tool from asus, I then flashed CMW from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668173 , after booting into fast boot (power on, hold down vol, on the next screen you have three icons, select the middle one), and then flashed the root file. You have to put your ROMs you want to flash on the tablet memory, CMW doesn't support external memory yet.
Have fun!
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I question for you? Now that you are running CM10 Jellybean, do you see any improvement with the I/O problem (very slow R/W) and what about flash player? Thanks
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2
1. What do you, personally, feel are the advantages?
adjust settings, and run cmd's or scripts from cmd line
which can not be done without root
lots apps require root as well
2. Is the guide above the SAFEST way to root? (DEFINITELY don't want a brick)
yes the debugfs link you posted is the safest way to root, and it is drop dead easy
3. Unlock bootloader?
I did, and I don't regret
4. Roms?
hydro is based on stock and is smokin fast
night and day difference
5. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Or - If it ain't root, lets break it? hehehe
if it aint root, let's break it!
I could not handle not having root
there's too many things I do that require it
Thanks for the great responses guys! Think i'll go ahead and get started...So,
1.Asus Unlock Tool
2. Root
3. TWRP flash, back up current rom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=D2ATyGP5JAk#!) using this guide
4. Flash rom!
5. Success!
Sound right?
thatisandwas said:
Thanks for the great responses guys! Think i'll go ahead and get started...So,
1.Asus Unlock Tool
2. Root
3. TWRP flash, back up current rom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=D2ATyGP5JAk#!) using this guide
4. Flash rom!
5. Success!
Sound right?
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sounds right, I do have 1 suggestion or maybe just a simplification
if you plan to use TWRP
download gooManager from the play store, it has an option that will install TWRP for you automatically
and also don't forget
step 3.5 go into TWRP and make a nandroid backup, and copy the backup to somewhere same
I doubt you'll have any issues, but better to have a backup
and not need it
than need a backup and not have it
Just my personal opinion ... unless you just have to have a custom ROM, forget unlocking and just root it. You won't violate your warranty and we're going to be getting jelly bean in a few months from Asus. This is exactly what I did running v30 and I'm loving it this way. Stock ROM isn't too bloated.
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Yeah...I haven't taken the plunge yet. Its my day off and i love tinkering with stuff like this but i'm just having a hard time justifying unlocking/flashing on a device that already performs so well. Torn!
thatisandwas said:
Hey guys! New and proud TF300T owner. I got it last Friday and am absolutely LOVING it so far. This will be my 8th android device of all time and I am starting to get that itch to root it. First and foremost, i'm on the .30 firmware. This is the newest version and it updated as soon as i turned it on. I'm hoping that won't be a problem.
My first question, should i root? I'm loving ICS and i haven't seen a LOT of different ROMs available in the thread.
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First answer, rooting isn't the same as unlocking and flashing! You can root without unlocking, like others have said there aren't that many ROMs out there and the stock is pretty good IMO.
tf300..
KAD79 said:
sounds right, I do have 1 suggestion or maybe just a simplification
if you plan to use TWRP
download gooManager from the play store, it has an option that will install TWRP for you automatically
and also don't forget
step 3.5 go into TWRP and make a nandroid backup, and copy the backup to somewhere same
I doubt you'll have any issues, but better to have a backup
and not need it
than need a backup and not have it
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Hey, I just unlocked my tf300-will I not be able to get jellybean at all when it comes out?!
You will have to flash the stock update through cwm or twrp, whichever recovery you used.
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I havent unlocked yet but its my day off now and im thinking about doing it now. The only thing im worried about is i keep seeing people having issues like "soft brick after restore"...i mean whats that about? I have backed up/restored and flashed a million roms on all my other unlocked android devices over the years and have NEVER had a soft brick just doing a restart? I mean i suppose ive gotten a bad rom before that wouldnt boot but when that happens i just usually go back to recovery and restore what i had before. Also, it seems like TWRP has more issues then CWM at this point. Is that just me, or is that true ? What the advantage of TWRP then if that is the case? Sigh...I wanna unlock and flash it so bad! But i just can't bring myself to do it for some reason!

[Q] A700 rooting question

Hi guys,
I've searched everywhere and can't get a definitive answer on this so here goes -
I'm a noob when it comes to Android, having recently defected from being an Apple Disciple (I got hacked off with iTunes and bored in general with the Daycare Centre which is iOS) and have recently acquired an Acer A700 tablet.
I have installed the JB update OTA and everything is working fine and am chomping at the bit to get it booted, but most of the posts I have read regarding unlocking the bootloader and rooting it relate to ICS.
My questions are -
Does the bootloader process apply regardless of Firmware? (Are there different versions for different Firmwares)
Can anyone point me in the direction of a decent tutorial on how to do this?
What happens regarding a future update? Do I have to revert back to stock and update from there or can i jump from one ROM to another? (I'm assuming that I can't use the OTA updates any more)
Sorry for the long OP and thanks in advance for your answers.
ianrobbie said:
Hi guys,
I've searched everywhere and can't get a definitive answer on this so here goes -
I'm a noob when it comes to Android, having recently defected from being an Apple Disciple (I got hacked off with iTunes and bored in general with the Daycare Centre which is iOS) and have recently acquired an Acer A700 tablet.
I have installed the JB update OTA and everything is working fine and am chomping at the bit to get it booted, but most of the posts I have read regarding unlocking the bootloader and rooting it relate to ICS.
My questions are -
Does the bootloader process apply regardless of Firmware? (Are there different versions for different Firmwares)
Can anyone point me in the direction of a decent tutorial on how to do this?
What happens regarding a future update? Do I have to revert back to stock and update from there or can i jump from one ROM to another? (I'm assuming that I can't use the OTA updates any more)
Sorry for the long OP and thanks in advance for your answers.
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No problem. Seeing you are on JB, then you have a JB bootloader.
You need to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953917
And download Vorbeths easyroot2.0. It's for the 700.
You have to unlock your bootloader first, which shouldn't be an issue for you. Easy instructions for that.
Then download his package to a folder on your PC. (not sure, but you may have to download each file individually) Open a command window (shift & right mouse click) and type in whatever his instructions say. Should be painless.
Make sure USB Debugging is turned on first in your tablet (Settings/Developer Options/USB Debugging), and make sure you have the Acer Drivers installed on your PC.
Then connect, wait 30 seconds, and run his batch file.
You should be ok.
MD
Oh yes, one more thing, once you unlock your bootloader, chances are you will not be able to get OTA. And the only way to re-lock the bootloader is to install a stock rom.
Thanks!
Thanks for the reply. I am now the owner of a fully rooted A700!
Had a few issues during unlocking the bootloader. That thing timeouts quick! Also, didn't realise you had to run the .bat file while the tablet was on the Bootloader USB protocol screen. I thought you had to wait until it booted fully into JB.
Anyway, took the plunge and thanks again for your help.
ianrobbie said:
Thanks for the reply. I am now the owner of a fully rooted A700!
Had a few issues during unlocking the bootloader. That thing timeouts quick! Also, didn't realise you had to run the .bat file while the tablet was on the Bootloader USB protocol screen. I thought you had to wait until it booted fully into JB.
Anyway, took the plunge and thanks again for your help.
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No problem. I thought I mentioned it timed out in about 5 seconds These days I don't remember much
Yeah, I haven't looked at Vorbeth's script, so I don't know which screen he launches it from. With mine for the 701, you can be when the tab is running normal. No difference in the end result though
Happy Hunting!
MD
One last question - do I have to install Clockwork Recovery for re-flashing the stock images or is it just a case of renaming it update. zip and putting it on an SD Card? Any chance you can point me in the right direction of the most recent/stable build? Is it easy to install?
Thanks again.
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ianrobbie said:
One last question - do I have to install Clockwork Recovery for re-flashing the stock images or is it just a case of renaming it update. zip and putting it on an SD Card? Any chance you can point me in the right direction of the most recent/stable build? Is it easy to install?
Thanks again.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using xda app-developers app
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Well, this is a trouble spot.
If you wish to install a custom rom, then you will need to install CWM. The most recent version.
If you want to try your luck at installing a stock rom, my opinion, is to leave the stock recovery inplace. I haven't had luck in installing stock update.zips, as Acer has made them very specific. So I can't be much help to you in that.
However, you can always flash back to CWM or a stock JB recovery pretty easy. Personally, unless you plan on flashing a custom, I would just leave the stock recovery.
MD
Sometimes "leaked" update appear here in the forums. They are unofficial. And you never know if they improve things, or make things worse. So be careful.
Moscow Desire said:
Well, this is a trouble spot.
If you wish to install a custom rom, then you will need to install CWM. The most recent version.
If you want to try your luck at installing a stock rom, my opinion, is to leave the stock recovery inplace. I haven't had luck in installing stock update.zips, as Acer has made them very specific. So I can't be much help to you in that.
However, you can always flash back to CWM or a stock JB recovery pretty easy. Personally, unless you plan on flashing a custom, I would just leave the stock recovery.
MD
Sometimes "leaked" update appear here in the forums. They are unofficial. And you never know if they improve things, or make things worse. So be careful.
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So, just for future reference, how would I go about re-flashing the stock image? I'm assuming it's saved on the tablet in a separate partition?
I've decided to stick with the stock rooted ROM but would like to know how to re-flash for when Key Lime Pie and future updates are released.
And, seeing as how you haven't steered me wrong so far, I though I'd pick your brains one last time.
Hope you don't mind!

Noob Root Question

Hi all. I want to keep this short and simple. I have the I9020A with 4.1.2, and a couple of days to spare. My phone is running OK and I am happy, but if I could improve the performance or experience it would only be better. How long does it take to root and install a new ROM (or so they call it) like CM 10.1, for a beginner like me? And, very briefly in one sentence, what are the main benefits from rooting and gains I could see from a ROM like CM 10.1?
Do you have any previous experience with rooting?
I got my phone last week (had experience with two previous phones and it took me 30 minutes to have it rooted, cwm-ed and cm10.1-ed. nexusshacks.com helped me very much
OnlySkills said:
Hi all. I want to keep this short and simple. I have the I9020A with 4.1.2, and a couple of days to spare. My phone is running OK and I am happy, but if I could improve the performance or experience it would only be better. How long does it take to root and install a new ROM (or so they call it) like CM 10.1, for a beginner like me? And, very briefly in one sentence, what are the main benefits from rooting and gains I could see from a ROM like CM 10.1?
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About an hour for an average total beginner to figure out how, then only 10minutes to flash a new pre-rooted rom. Read the changelog of your desired ROM so you know why you're flashing it, read their corresponding threads.
The main reason i first rooted my nexus s is because i heard it was the best-sounding android phone due to its built-in wolfson amplifier, and the only way to unleash it's true power is by rooting and installing voodoo sound app. Another thing is, custom roms provide the feature where you can use the volume buttons to seek music tracks. So for a music lover like me, i really benefit from custom roms.
A few things, the first step you will have to do is unlock the bootloader. That one setup will wipe all partitions back to a factory state (just stock OS of what ever variety you are on). Be prepared, you can back up your sdcard via a PC, and use the new app carbon to backup your user apps and data if you like (it is the only app that can do that for an unrooted user that I know of). There benefits to rooting, but we would have to know what you hope to gain with it to let you know if it is worth it for you. Most of us that root and rom do it for one reason, to get a better user experience. So a boost in performance or battery life. Added user options within android like notification power control buttons or added lockscreen targets.
No I actually don't have any previous experience with rooting (the most I've done is manually installed an update). And I am glad to hear that it takes around an hour, I thought it'd take a day. As long as it gives me better performance and a few extra features, I'm down for it!
So after I unlock the bootloader, what do I do next regarding the ROM and kernel? Do I just need a ROM, or do I have to get a new "kernel" too? And how come some ROMS are named after 4.2.2 (or the latest version), whereas others like CM is at version 10.1? I am thinking of getting CM 10.1 because that's the most I hear about, I hope it is stable and good. Any thoughts?
Writing from memory (I only did it once, yes it is that simple):
1. Unlock bootloader
2. Install a recovery (Never used anything else than ClockworkMod)
3. Install ROM.
Everything is reversible, in case you need to take it to the service. Also, don't get scared if something goes a bit wrong. For example, the first time I rebooted into recovery, the phone showed a red triangle. But I remained calm, searched about what was happening and I found the solution. Just always be careful to flash only device specific stuff. Be aware: there is nexus s and nexus s 4G!
This is the video that helped me very much, from start to end: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4AHucGBZHMQ
Edit: i forgot to mention, do an efs backup. Needless to say i also forgot to make it...
Hi guys. I have successfully rooted my Nexus S now, using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782&page=3&nocache=1
Also thanks for that video posted above, it helped me in some places. It took a while, I'd say about 2 hours in total because I ran into some issues..(those instructions should really be updated)
Anyways, I have 4.1.2 atm..and on the ROMs under Android Development, they all say [4.2.2] .. does this mean I have to be on 4.2.2 to install these? I thought 4.2.2 wasn't available for the NS..
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OnlySkills said:
Hi guys. I have successfully rooted my Nexus S now, using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782&page=3&nocache=1
Also thanks for that video posted above, it helped me in some places. It took a while, I'd say about 2 hours in total because I ran into some issues..(those instructions should really be updated)
Anyways, I have 4.1.2 atm..and on the ROMs under Android Development, they all say [4.2.2] .. does this mean I have to be on 4.2.2 to install these? I thought 4.2.2 wasn't available for the NS..
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It doesnt matter on which version you are on atm, you can flash whatever version you like!
4.2.2 is officially not available for the ns but as you can see we have amazing devs which make it work anyway...
4I-I said:
It doesnt matter on which version you are on atm, you can flash whatever version you like!
4.2.2 is officially not available for the ns but as you can see we have amazing devs which make it work anyway...
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Thank you!! I just flashed CM 10.1 Nightly...loving it atm! It has exactly those features that I wanted..Phone runs overall better too (at least for now).
Thanks everybody..great help!

[Q] Just updated to Lollipop, Can't See My Internal Storage in My File Manager

Is this normal?
I've avoided Lollipop this while time because of all the storage crap, but it has too many features for the shield I can't go without.
I'd hate to have to reflash from scratch (for the 100th time), this thing wipes data like it's nothing.
Let me know if you guys have any insight.
Thanks.
Nevermind
Reflashed from scratch.
It almost makes no sense to mod this thing. You can't get OTAs.
Every time you flash you have to wipe.
I almost don't want to start modding again in fear that I'll lose a function and have to start over again...
Gootah said:
Reflashed from scratch.
It almost makes no sense to mod this thing. You can't get OTAs.
Every time you flash you have to wipe.
I almost don't want to start modding again in fear that I'll lose a function and have to start over again...
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You know you can flash OTA's when rooted... So you don't have to wipe.
For example, let's say your rooted and on the latest 2.2.1. If 2.3 comes out, you just flash the 2.3 OTA in TWRP or CWM, and do NOT have to wipe data.
THIS link has all the OTA's, along with a bunch of other useful things.
FoxyDrew said:
You know you can flash the incremental OTA's... So you don't have to wipe.
For example, let's say your rooted and on the latest 2.2.1. If 2.3 comes out, you just flash the 2.2.1 - 2.3 incremental update in TWRP or CWM, and do NOT have to wipe data.
THIS link has all the incremental OTA's, along with a bunch of other useful things.
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Don't mean to step on your toes @FoxyDrew, but I believe you meant full OTAs. Incremental OTAs check the device version and report the wrong thing (if rooted), however full OTAs don't give two sh!t$ on what your build number is lol. You are correct however in that OTAs of any nature do not wipe a thing besides your rooted status.
MidgetMob said:
Don't mean to step on your toes @FoxyDrew, but I believe you meant full OTAs. Incremental OTAs check the device version and report the wrong thing (if rooted), however full OTAs don't give two sh!t$ on what your build number is lol. You are correct however in that OTAs of any nature do not wipe a thing besides your rooted status.
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Woops haha, was late when I posted that ;-;
BTW thanks for that thread, has saved my butt a few times and definitely helped when I was new to the tablet.
Thanks for replying guys.
The base of what I'm saying is that this is the most temperamental device I've ever had to maintain.
Even more so than my S4 with it's random kernel rejections (WiFi sometime doesn't work when swapping ROMs).
Another issues I have is pulling the OTAs. I hate waiting from a random contributor to post the link to the full OTA FOR me.
Then I have to worry about whether there's a root method for it afterward, so frustrating.
Seriously considering just going CM12+Limelight.
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Woops haha, was late when I posted that ;-;
BTW thanks for that thread, has saved my butt a few times and definitely helped when I was new to the tablet.
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Yea man, no worries. That's what the thread is for haha
Gootah said:
Thanks for replying guys.
The base of what I'm saying is that this is the most temperamental device I've ever had to maintain.
Even more so than my S4 with it's random kernel rejections (WiFi sometime doesn't work when swapping ROMs).
Another issues I have is pulling the OTAs. I hate waiting from a random contributor to post the link to the full OTA FOR me.
Then I have to worry about whether there's a root method for it afterward, so frustrating.
Seriously considering just going CM12+Limelight.
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I understand your complaints with this device. It's been buggy since release day, however I will say that the amount of hiccups per week has gone down to maybe 1 or 2 with 5.0.1.
Regarding OTAs - the thread that FoxyDrew posted (the thread that I maintain) will always have new OTAs and recovery images posted within a day. I'd recommend subscribing to that thread so you know when I post the new OTAs/recovery images. That is, as long as you're fine with waiting up to a day for the update. If not, maybe CM12 is right for you.
As for the root method, rooting has been as simple as flashing a zip file from recovery. It's been like that for quite awhile now. As long as there isn't some major change to the software, it should continue to be that simple for the lifespan of this device.
Hey man, custom ROMs may be the thing for you if you really hate stock android on this tablet. Give it a try and see what you like the best. Just know that there are solutions to almost every problem that you have stated, you just gotta dig around a little bit. If you do end up sticking with the stock ROM, be sure to bookmark that thread as it will make your life a hell of a lot easier
Gootah said:
Thanks for replying guys.
The base of what I'm saying is that this is the most temperamental device I've ever had to maintain.
Even more so than my S4 with it's random kernel rejections (WiFi sometime doesn't work when swapping ROMs).
Another issues I have is pulling the OTAs. I hate waiting from a random contributor to post the link to the full OTA FOR me.
Then I have to worry about whether there's a root method for it afterward, so frustrating.
Seriously considering just going CM12+Limelight.
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I personally run CM12.1. Best thing ever for this tablet in my opinion. Fixed the sluggishness of Lollipop that people had, and only con is lack of some Nvidia features, although Nvidia Hub and Grid Gaming still work just fine along with other things (the lack of the button mapper sucks most for me). Anyways before I start sounding like I'm being paid to promote CM, I recommend you make a nandroid, try it, and then if you hate it just flash back.
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I personally run CM12.1. Best thing ever for this tablet in my opinion. Fixed the sluggishness of Lollipop that people had, and only con is lack of some Nvidia features, although Nvidia Hub and Grid Gaming still work just fine along with other things (the lack of the button mapper sucks most for me). Anyways before I start sounding like I'm being paid to promote CM, I recommend you make a nandroid, try it, and then if you hate it just flash back.
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MidgetMob said:
Yea man, no worries. That's what the thread is for haha
I understand your complaints with this device. It's been buggy since release day, however I will say that the amount of hiccups per week has gone down to maybe 1 or 2 with 5.0.1.
Regarding OTAs - the thread that FoxyDrew posted (the thread that I maintain) will always have new OTAs and recovery images posted within a day. I'd recommend subscribing to that thread so you know when I post the new OTAs/recovery images. That is, as long as you're fine with waiting up to a day for the update. If not, maybe CM12 is right for you.
As for the root method, rooting has been as simple as flashing a zip file from recovery. It's been like that for quite awhile now. As long as there isn't some major change to the software, it should continue to be that simple for the lifespan of this device.
Hey man, custom ROMs may be the thing for you if you really hate stock android on this tablet. Give it a try and see what you like the best. Just know that there are solutions to almost every problem that you have stated, you just gotta dig around a little bit. If you do end up sticking with the stock ROM, be sure to bookmark that thread as it will make your life a hell of a lot easier
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Collectively you guys have outlined why this is a complicated decision. The button mapper gives my life meaning!
And I bought it for the Nvidia apps!
I think I'll just come to terms with the fact that this device just requires more time than most.
Maybe I'll commit to doing nandroid>clean flash/recovery flash via thread mentioned above>restore data if necessary.
I can never get a clean flash out of this device. I flashed 4.0->5.0, got a black screen.
Flashed 5.0->5.0.1, internal storage not working.
The only thing thas has been working is full clean flash via Fastboot and as far as root, finding the right ZIP I guess.
The one from Chainfire's site never works for me, but some on the forums do.

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