[Q] Dock developed fault in normal use - locking pin snapped off - Asus Transformer TF700

Hi, I read with interest the posts about wobbly (back and forth) docks on the tf101.
My TF700T developed this also after just 1 month.
Aditionally and more seriously perhaps, I noticed it stopped docking securely. I examined both the dock and the tablet and eventually noticed the retaining pin (inside the hole) on the right side of the tablet seems to have broken off due to frequently docking and undocking the two.
Has anyone else seen this?
ive sent it back to Asus who are claiming customer induced damage. This make me very angry bcoz i looked after it like a baby. all i did was use it a lot both docked and undocked.it never left my house. I reckon its a design flaw and eventually all many more of you will notice this.

wailim_2002 said:
Hi, I read with interest the posts about wobbly (back and forth) docks on the tf101.
My Tf701 developed this also after just 1 month.
Aditionally and more seriously perhaps, I noticed it stopped docking securely. I examined both the dock and the tablet and eventually noticed the retaining pin (inside the hole) on the right side of the tablet seems to have broken off due to frequently docking and undocking the two.
Has anyone else seen this?
ive sent it back to Asus who are claiming customer induced damage. This make me very angry bcoz i looked after it like a baby. all i did was use it a lot both docked and undocked.it never left my house. I reckon its a design flaw and eventually all many more of you will notice this.
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Hey, It happened to me too and this other guy. Go to page 2 of this section, and go to one with Broken lock .but seems like its only three of us til now.
There is no solution as is...I've tried to get a replacement parts (like iphone) but i had no luck.

No, it's not only the three of you. "Funnily", the locking pin snapped off on my dock yesterday. I haven't been this angry in years. As with most of the users with a dock, it hardly ever left the dock -- I think I have uncoupled it for at most 6 or 7 times, and as such, it's not even a question of docking it with force or gently...
The locking pin would seem to be unable to withstand keeping the tablet in place for such an extended period. I noticed that both locking pins have degraded considerably -- again, I hardly ever uncoupled the tablet from the dock, so it's 'slide damage'. This would qualify as a hardware design error in my opinion. What moron uses plastic clips on locking devices? That would need some nice metal engineering. This is not even close to the durability that I expect from a 700 euro device!
Once my blood pressure has gone down for a bit, I'll try and drop ASUS Netherlands a line and get my issue known. Then I'll see what their point of view is, and if it's "your own damn fault", I'll have to determine what to do: either proceed to professional help (a lawyer, to be more specific) or let it slide. I do not know what my route would be in this case -- I don't want to risk a stomach ulcer, but my lawyer does this for free (many Europeans have a lawyer plan so there is no financial impediment to asking support).
EDIT: I had secured the tablet to the dock with a few strips of heavy-duty doublesided tape to keep it from accidentally coming out of the dock. I cannot have the tablet's screen cracking from fall damage and ASUS having a stick to beat me with.

MartyHulskemper said:
No, it's not only the three of you. "Funnily", the locking pin snapped off on my dock yesterday. I haven't been this angry in years. As with most of the users with a dock, it hardly ever left the dock -- I think I have uncoupled it for at most 6 or 7 times, and as such, it's not even a question of docking it with force or gently...
The locking pin would seem to be unable to withstand keeping the tablet in place for such an extended period. I noticed that both locking pins have degraded considerably -- again, I hardly ever uncoupled the tablet from the dock, so it's 'slide damage'. This would qualify as a hardware design error in my opinion. What moron uses plastic clips on locking devices? That would need some nice metal engineering. This is not even close to the durability that I expect from a 700 euro device!
Once my blood pressure has gone down for a bit, I'll try and drop ASUS Netherlands a line and get my issue known. Then I'll see what their point of view is, and if it's "your own damn fault", I'll have to determine what to do: either proceed to professional help (a lawyer, to be more specific) or let it slide. I do not know what my route would be in this case -- I don't want to risk a stomach ulcer, but my lawyer does this for free (many Europeans have a lawyer plan so there is no financial impediment to asking support).
EDIT: I had secured the tablet to the dock with a few strips of heavy-duty doublesided tape to keep it from accidentally coming out of the dock. I cannot have the tablet's screen cracking from fall damage and ASUS having a stick to beat me with.
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Hi, This is great news.... well erm... sorry for your trouble and all but it is good that the numbers who are experiencing/noticing this failure are going up as it lends weight to the design flaw theory. I agree 100% with you that the design does appear to be plastic clips inside the tablet and what I said in my RMA description is that if ASUS did not have an updated reinforced part, that I felt the unit was unfit for purpose and I did not want it back. I was prepared to give them 1 chance to repair it as this is the consumer law in Ireland but I was intending to test it thoroughly upon return. But now that they are trying to say I dropped it or something.... this is another story!
For me, I am still under 3 months and within the time scale to do a credit card charge back. I'd rather have them come after me if they feel they can stand over their design.

wailim_2002 said:
Hi, This is great news....
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Heh. Thanks for your considerate reply. I was one of the first TF700 owners in the world, so I'm far past any warranty period in which they have to prove it my fault instead of me proving it theirs. I'm still too pissed to take up the phone right now, but I will try and send an e-mail to start with somewhere in the next few days.

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[Q] Power button broke. Am I hosed?

I finally got my Eee Pad from NewEgg, and I was generally pretty happy with it for the week I've had it so far. Just this morning though, I bumped into my door while holding it and the power button got swiped. Now there's a visible dent in the area around the button, and the power button itself appears to be broke. When I press it down, there's no longer the "click" that you would expect when you press the button. And of course, it no longer turns on.
Needless to say, I'm pretty irate right now. I didn't really bump into the door hard at all, and I would consider this damage to be normal wear and tear. Can anybody recommend a course of action here? Should I attempt to repair it myself, or should I just go ahead and RMA it right now? Even though NewEgg says they have a replacement only policy for the Eee Pad, the rep I talked to said if they don't have any in stock at the time the RMA is processed, it'll turn into a refund instead.
wait, so you damaged it and you want to RMA/return it?
How can you RMA for damage you caused yourself?
asincero said:
I finally got my Eee Pad from NewEgg, and I was generally pretty happy with it for the week I've had it so far. Just this morning though, I bumped into my door while holding it and the power button got swiped. Now there's a visible dent in the area around the button, and the power button itself appears to be broke. When I press it down, there's no longer the "click" that you would expect when you press the button. And of course, it no longer turns on.
Needless to say, I'm pretty irate right now. I didn't really bump into the door hard at all, and I would consider this damage to be normal wear and tear. Can anybody recommend a course of action here? Should I attempt to repair it myself, or should I just go ahead and RMA it right now? Even though NewEgg says they have a replacement only policy for the Eee Pad, the rep I talked to said if they don't have any in stock at the time the RMA is processed, it'll turn into a refund instead.
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I don't think you can get a replacement or refund from newegg...but give it a shot. Maybe your transformer is just in the "sleep mode of death" Have you tried to hold the button down for more than 10 seconds, wait a minute, then hold the power down again for 5 seconds to turn it back on?
No offence but thats not normal wear and tear, that's accidental/negligence. Not covered under any warranty, unless you took out accidental cover (insurance) when you purchased it.
You physically damaged it. I don't see why you feel entitled to a replacement.
If you have no moral issues with trying to return it or get it replaced then by all means try ans maybe you'll get one.
You're not entitled to one though and the fact that you think you are is comical.
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Unlucky.......feel for you......BUT it is your fault
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@csmail, no I don't think I'm entitled to get it replaced/refunded. And I don't think it's a question of morals here. If NewEgg accepts it, then great! If not, oh well. Now if I went back to NewEgg and protested the rejection, then that would be ethically questionable. At least in my mind. I'm really at the mercy of NewEgg here. I can only cross my fingers.
I still, however, think this is normal wear and tear. It wasn't a bad brush against the door at all, and it's really something that would've happened eventually unless I babied it constantly.
Looking back to the commercial ASUS released where they had the guy out and about town with the Eee Pad, where he's in class taking notes with it, then he's outside with his friends where he callously undocks the Eee Pad to show his friends something, then he's at the coffee shop with his girlfriend playing a head-to-head video game with both of them banging away on it, and then he's at the skateboard park taking pics with it I'm now thinking "yeah right!". With that kind of treatment, his Eee Pad would be dead in a week.
Apparently, the only place this thing should be used is within the safe confines of your home held only by edges and placed softly on a pillow in a quiet secluded room when not in use. I'm not particularly rough with my gadgets. But devices such as these are meant to be *used*, not put in a glass case to be displayed. And it's supposed to double as a netbook? Yea, good luck with that.
I used a Samsung Galaxy Tab before this, and compared to the Eee Pad, that thing is built like a tank. It's still going strong.
Now with that rant out of the way, I was generally pleased with the Eee Pad. The IPS display was simply awesome. Battery life was also great. There were some software quirks, but I noticed ASUS has a FW update available which I was about to install sometime during the next few days. But I guess that's out now. If NewEgg has mercy on me, I'm on the fence on whether or not to get a replacement or wait until the new Galaxy Tabs come out.
You are trying to justify returning a damaged device by saying it would have happened anyway unless you babied it. I'm not sure about other people but I baby all my gadgets and that's why they never get damaged like this. I'm not saying it would never happen to me because accidents do happen from time to time just like it did to you, but no accidents yet (knock on wood). From a moral standpoint, if you think you can get away with it and it doesn't bother you then maybe you'll get lucky and they will accept it. But for the record, no matter how many times you tell yourself its normal wear and tear banging something up against a door... its not.
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I think you are on the hook for this, so your options are send it into Asus for repair or repair it yourself knowing this likely voids your warranty.
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You are trying to justify returning a damaged device by saying it would have happened anyway unless you babied it.
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No I don't think NewEgg should give me my money back/give me a replacement because of a damage that I think would've happened eventually. The ball is entirely in their court and I will live with whatever decision they make. It'd be stupid not to try though. There is nothing ethically questionable about this unless I was being deceitful, which I am not.
Crimton said:
I'm not sure about other people but I baby all my gadgets and that's why they never get damaged like this. I'm not saying it would never happen to me because accidents do happen from time to time just like it did to you, but no accidents yet (knock on wood).
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I guess thats where you and I differ. It wasn't like I was using my Eee Pad as a door stop while not in use or something. It was a casual bump against a soft wooden door. It wasn't even a head-on collision. It was a swipe against the door. I am on order of magnitude way rougher with my cell phone, the aforementioned Galaxy Tab, and my laptop and they are all chugging away like the day I bought them.
I guess the original point of my post was to rant about the build quality of these Eee Pads. I buy these things to be tools, not to have to show off how much money I have. I wanted to be able to throw this thing into my bag when I go on travel or out into the field like I can with my Galaxy Tab. Turns it out it's way too fragile for that. It can't even take a casual bump. People reading this thread and considering an Eee Pad may want to take notice if durability is a requirement.
asincero said:
No I don't think NewEgg should give me my money back/give me a replacement because of a damage that I think would've happened eventually. The ball is entirely in their court and I will live with whatever decision they make. It'd be stupid not to try though. There is nothing ethically questionable about this unless I was being deceitful, which I am not.
I guess thats where you and I differ. It wasn't like I was using my Eee Pad as a door stop while not in use or something. It was a casual bump against a soft wooden door. It wasn't even a head-on collision. It was a swipe against the door. I am on order of magnitude way rougher with my cell phone, the aforementioned Galaxy Tab, and my laptop and they are all chugging away like the day I bought them.
I guess the original point of my post was to rant about the build quality of these Eee Pads. I buy these things to be tools, not to have to show off how much money I have. I wanted to be able to throw this thing into my bag when I go on travel or out into the field like I can with my Galaxy Tab. Turns it out it's way too fragile for that. It can't even take a casual bump. People reading this thread and considering an Eee Pad may want to take notice if durability is a requirement.
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You should try the XOOM instead. I miss its metal housing and overall superior stability. But it doesn't have the dock, IPS screen or the very useful ASUS software. I am selling mine on eBay right now but it was a very tough decision!
asincero said:
I finally got my Eee Pad from NewEgg, and I was generally pretty happy with it for the week I've had it so far. Just this morning though, I bumped into my door while holding it and the power button got swiped. Now there's a visible dent in the area around the button, and the power button itself appears to be broke. When I press it down, there's no longer the "click" that you would expect when you press the button. And of course, it no longer turns on.
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Can I suggest that you plugin your charger to wake it up? Maybe that way you can at least still use it...
asincero said:
I finally got my Eee Pad from NewEgg, and I was generally pretty happy with it for the week I've had it so far. Just this morning though, I bumped into my door while holding it and the power button got swiped. Now there's a visible dent in the area around the button, and the power button itself appears to be broke. When I press it down, there's no longer the "click" that you would expect when you press the button. And of course, it no longer turns on.
Needless to say, I'm pretty irate right now. I didn't really bump into the door hard at all, and I would consider this damage to be normal wear and tear. Can anybody recommend a course of action here? Should I attempt to repair it myself, or should I just go ahead and RMA it right now? Even though NewEgg says they have a replacement only policy for the Eee Pad, the rep I talked to said if they don't have any in stock at the time the RMA is processed, it'll turn into a refund instead.
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Common guys, OP just wants to ask for opinions. Nothing unethical about this.
OP, if you used your AMEX when you ordered this, you can get your money back thru AMEX.
asincero said:
No I don't think NewEgg should give me my money back/give me a replacement because of a damage that I think would've happened eventually. The ball is entirely in their court and I will live with whatever decision they make. It'd be stupid not to try though. There is nothing ethically questionable about this unless I was being deceitful, which I am not.
I guess thats where you and I differ. It wasn't like I was using my Eee Pad as a door stop while not in use or something. It was a casual bump against a soft wooden door. It wasn't even a head-on collision. It was a swipe against the door. I am on order of magnitude way rougher with my cell phone, the aforementioned Galaxy Tab, and my laptop and they are all chugging away like the day I bought them.
I guess the original point of my post was to rant about the build quality of these Eee Pads. I buy these things to be tools, not to have to show off how much money I have. I wanted to be able to throw this thing into my bag when I go on travel or out into the field like I can with my Galaxy Tab. Turns it out it's way too fragile for that. It can't even take a casual bump. People reading this thread and considering an Eee Pad may want to take notice if durability is a requirement.
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Not saying you were being neglectful or anything, and yes it would be ideal for it to survive a brush with a hard surface. As I said before, if newegg takes it back, more power to you. however, just because you had a bad experience with it don't deem the build quality to be crap. I am happy with mine Having said that, as a former xoom owner I would say that the xoom would have come out of this unscathed most likely (not must because the power button is on the back either). The xoom was just a little more solid feeling, but it had it's drawbacks as well which I won't get into. In any case I hope it works out for you and you can remain a transformer owner. Also if you didn't already might I suggest purchasing the asus sleeve, it have been just enough protection to save you.
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junks2010 said:
Common guys, OP just wants to ask for opinions. Nothing unethical about this.
OP, if you used your AMEX when you ordered this, you can get your money back thru AMEX.
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Does purchasing through AMEX cover accidental damage?
jerrykur said:
Does purchasing through AMEX cover accidental damage?
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Yes. Unless they changed it recently.
Personally I think this thread was started by a troll since it's their second ever posting on a flame worthy subject. But for the record, Newegg is obviously not responsible for someone damaging their own device so asking them to eat $400 because someone was careless seems rather deplorable.
The answer is pay to get it fixed or fix it yourself.
As far as not being deceitful I would agree with you if you submitted an RMA request that said "Banged Device Against Door and Broke It". You did not do that because it would be declined so you lied. You're not betting on their mercy, you're betting on them being too busy to notice that you trashed it.
Anyway, I like Newegg. They have great customer service, reasonable prices and cater to the geeks among us. It's a shame when people lie and cheat to get game a system that once broken leaves us in the hands of Best Buy and Amazon.
There's a reason most of us use cases or put silicon skins on our fancy little devices when out in the wild, they are fragile. I don't see anything about the build quality of the Transformer to make me think it is more or less so true for this device.
findmike said:
Personally I think this thread was started by a troll since it's their second ever posting on a flame worthy subject. But for the record, Newegg is obviously not responsible for someone damaging their own device so asking them to eat $400 because someone was careless seems rather deplorable.
The answer is pay to get it fixed or fix it yourself.
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Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. But I can assure you I am not trolling.
The good news is I just managed to fix it myself just now. Turns out the bump caused the power button to get stuck. I took a dulled box cutter and pried the back lid open just a little to unstick it. Now the button clicks when pressed like it should and everything works as before.
So that this thread isn't a total waste of time, I'll just say that people need to know that this thing doesn't have the greatest of build qualities. Especially since it can convert into a netbook, the Eee Pad really needs to be more rugged. Even when in netbook mode, the buttons and so forth are still vunerable and if I treated it the same way I treat my laptop, I'd have a $400 ($550 including the dock) paper weight in no time.
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As far as not being deceitful I would agree with you if you submitted an RMA request that said "Banged Device Against Door and Broke It". You did not do that because it would be declined so you lied. You're not betting on their mercy, you're betting on them being too busy to notice that you trashed it.
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I had to talk to a customer rep to get an RMA number for the Eee Pad. It's not my fault she didn't ask for specifics. Furthermore, I would presume they inspect the merchandise before proceeding with the RMA at which point they would
clearly be able to see the damage on the power button. How can I possibly be still at fault if they decided to still proceed with the RMA?
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It's a shame when people lie and cheat to get game a system that once broken leaves us in the hands of Best Buy and Amazon.
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Yea, I agree. I hope you're not talking about me though because I'm not lying or cheating. They could've either given me the refund/replacement or not. I would've accepted either result.
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There's a reason most of us use cases or put silicon skins on our fancy little devices when out in the wild, they are fragile.
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Great! Know where we can get one for the Eee Pad? I got the official $40 ASUS sleeve for it from NewEgg, but as you can probably conclude by now that didn't do squat as far as protecting anything. And not those sleeves where you have to take the tablet out of it to use it. That hurts usability if you're trying to use your tablet like a digital book or something.
To all you "moral guys". Has anyone who has posted here bought a device, rooted it, restored it then returned it?

Build quality question

Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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I have this issue too. Both the right hand side and left hand side, and a few additional places (7 areas in total). When I closed pad on the dock station a crack formed between one of these two weak areas where screen is loose, and all points to glass cracking exactly because the strains were not supported by chassis. And I closed it the same way I closed it a few other times before (only owned it for about a month).
If you need more description in pictures, there's a thread about defects (it lists clicking/loose screen as one of defects by the way) in this same forum.
I hope that my crack is just an isolated case. This is only my personal opinion based on experience I had, but I would keep bothering the wherever you got your tablet until they give you one without loose screen.
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Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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Mines clicking in the exact same spot you described. Doesn't seem to be getting worse, and if it doesn't I don't think it will bother me that much. But still, for the money we're paying its inexcusable.
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Same clicking above the microSD slot and on the opposite side -> same location. But it does not really bother me.
Mine clicks a little right above the dock port on the bottom.
I'm not considering it a problem at this point.
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I have this issue too. Both the right hand side and left hand side, and a few additional places (7 areas in total). When I closed pad on the dock station a crack formed between one of these two weak areas where screen is loose, and all points to glass cracking exactly because the strains were not supported by chassis. And I closed it the same way I closed it a few other times before (only owned it for about a month).
If you need more description in pictures, there's a thread about defects (it lists clicking/loose screen as one of defects by the way) in this same forum.
I hope that my crack is just an isolated case. This is only my personal opinion based on experience I had, but I would keep bothering the wherever you got your tablet until they give you one without loose screen.
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In the Nexus 7 forum there were a number of complaints about the screen lifting, and most were found to be caused by screws that were over tightened below the areas of lift. The Nexus 7 back is easy to remove, and I wouldn't suggest doing this with the TF700, but they are both recent ASUS devices and there seems to be a possibility they could suffer from the same issue. By the way. it turns out that only a small % of Nexus 7 owners experienced screen lift, but some had multiple devices with this issue. Mine is flawless, as are the vast majority. I think that must be true for the TF700 as well. Mine is perfect, too.
Just checked. Mine has a VERY slight, not quite popping, but like a small"tic" when pressed by SD slot. Had to listen really close to hear it. My prime was nothing but problems, Wi-Fi weak, GPS totally worthless, and camera was unacceptably bad, grainy quality pics.
My Infinity is everything prime was not. Extremely pleased with it. Only problem I've noticed is I/O lag. And hopefully, that will be fixed with jelly bean.
One other thing, mine WOULD NOT OTA update. Had to d load to micro card.
Other than that, I LOVE MY INFINITY!
I don't see any issues with the building quality. I have not struggled to find flaws . my only complaint is lag and performance. Hopefully these are fixable sw issues that the jb update will fix or someone will create a good ROM to unleash this tablet.
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Build quality for mine is terrific. No complaints at all at this point.
Sitting in the airport lounge right now where my TF201 didn't get a WiFi signal. TF700 has -50dB at 54Mbps.
Build quality and performance are exactly what I would expect for a premium priced tablet.
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My first one was perfect physically, but I had to return it. My second one has the popping on the left and there's noticeable give on the bottom, right above the left keyboard dock slot (that is, you can push the screen into the casing). I'm guessing its not a big deal since there are others who have reported similar things.
I have the popping sound when applying pressure to the display on the right side, kind of where the speaker sits. I used to have a slight bulge / screen seperation above the microSD slot, but that completely went away after I left my Infinity lieing in the sun for a few hours (not on purpose, I just forgot about it and that thing got HOT).
I hope this is an isolated case (though my "popping" wasn't so severe, I didn't pay attention to it either!), but just so you know, this is what happened when I normally (no extra force) closed it with my dock station.
I initially ignored the problem too. So be careful when handling it around dock station (if I'm right, it's only bending which is created by dock station that can do this, simply holding it in hand or closing dock station by holding it in middle will not cause any cracks or damage).

The loose/unbonded screen issue...

So, I've just received my third Infinity, after having to send the first two back because of defects with the screen. The first had a large speck of dust trapped right under the centre of the screen, and the screen on the second gave everything a horrible yellow tinge.
The one I've just received has what looks like a perfect screen image wise, but there's a horrible clicking sound when I press along the right hand edge - so, it appears that this infinity also has a fault, which I know from reading these forums is fairly common.
I'm really starting to loose heart with this tablet - it's my first one, and as much as I want to love it, I'm sick of receiving defective units. If I return this one, then I'm going to be running the risk of receiving another with a dodgy screen or worse.
If I decide to keep this one, what are the chances of the clicking/unbonded screen becoming worse? Can anyone who's had this problem comment on whether the area that clicks has expanded over time, or if your screen has started to separate noticeably? Is this likely to happen?
I've bought through Amazon so I'm able to return it without any hassle, but I'm reluctant to go through the ASUS quality control lottery for a fourth time.
I would appreciate any advice or comments.
Mine is 2 months old and i had the clicking issue from the beginning but it didn't got worse and to be honest i don't even notice the clicks anymore (i guess that my brain got used to it ).
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Ok, thanks mate... hopefully it won't get any worse. I'll give it a week or two and see if mine spreads at all.
Nexus 7 has same problem
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MisterEz said:
So, I've just received my third Infinity, after having to send the first two back because of defects with the screen. The first had a large speck of dust trapped right under the centre of the screen, and the screen on the second gave everything a horrible yellow tinge.
The one I've just received has what looks like a perfect screen image wise, but there's a horrible clicking sound when I press along the right hand edge - so, it appears that this infinity also has a fault, which I know from reading these forums is fairly common.
I'm really starting to loose heart with this tablet - it's my first one, and as much as I want to love it, I'm sick of receiving defective units. If I return this one, then I'm going to be running the risk of receiving another with a dodgy screen or worse.
If I decide to keep this one, what are the chances of the clicking/unbonded screen becoming worse? Can anyone who's had this problem comment on whether the area that clicks has expanded over time, or if your screen has started to separate noticeably? Is this likely to happen?
I've bought through Amazon so I'm able to return it without any hassle, but I'm reluctant to go through the ASUS quality control lottery for a fourth time.
I would appreciate any advice or comments.
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Send it back - that's not acceptable for a highend electronic product. You keep doin this until you get one with accaptable build quality or you buy another brand. Choice is yours. But never accept poor build quality in high end consumer electronics
Had mine for about 3 weeks and received a screen protector a couple of days ago, no problems with the screen but was worried applying the screen protector would show up any defects clickingwise. Panic over screen protector on and display is looking good.
Yeah, I think too many people here accept the fact that their unit has some fault and then just think "well, it could be worse. Be happy with what you got". No way! this should be THE high end tablet, one of the most expensive ones there are and then it has this kind of faults.
IF everybody would be same and think "well this is ok" then Asus wouldn't even learn from their mistakes. They would just keep on with the crappy QC and nothing would be fixed. Maybe they would even worsen the qc to save money and try to find out where is the line that people don't accept the product.
For me, I spend a lot of money and I want my unit be perfect out of the package. It is other issue then if I break it..
I too am having some screen issues, but I think I will have to send my unit back to ASUS completely. Most Dutch retailers only have a very short return period, and I've already had mine for 19 days. I guess I will contact the retailer and ask them what I should do. However, it is really unacceptable that you pay a high price for such a premium product and that it has issues that really should not ocur. The reason why I didn't go back to the retailer was because I didn't really notice it at first, it just got more annoying later on...
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Mine has the loose screen issue all around. But no clicking. So I'm having the same debate in my mind. I think I'm going to return and try for another one.
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I'm returning my 2nd TF700t tomorrow 'cause of loose screen. This time it also made the clicking sound :/
Mine has a loose screen but it's the lower left hand corner by the headphone jack, hdmi port, microphone area. You don't even need to squeeze it hard, it feels hollow in that area and it makes a crunching sound. My biggest fear is the ports there are either going to get damaged or cause a short touching the case. Amazon is sending me a replacement which I should have tomorrow.
Amazon was really gracious in taking my 201 back that I bought in May, but man, WTF, I love Tegra games so the samsung tab is out and I hate Samsung with their wishy washy update and the fact they stop supporting their legacy products fairly fast.
If this next one is trash I don't know what to do, I don't want to be banned by Amazon for returns, sucks ass.
Thanks for all the replies and comments - it seems that this loose/unbonded screen issue is more widespread than I first thought...
All those who have said that I shouldn't accept this on a premium device are, of course, correct. Although the tablet seems to work properly now, I'm worried that several months down the line the screen might start to separate or some other related problem will arise, & I'll be left to deal with Asus direct for a warranty repair. It makes far more sense to get it replaced now, so I'm just about to contact Amazon to tell them that this tablet, the third one that they have sent me, is also faulty.
Here's hoping my fourth will be fault free as it'll be the last one I get - if there's a problem with it then it'll be returned for a refund & I'll start to look at other brands of tablets to buy instead.
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Thanks for all the replies and comments - it seems that this loose/unbonded screen issue is more widespread than I first thought...
All those who have said that I shouldn't accept this on a premium device are, of course, correct. Although the tablet seems to work properly now, I'm worried that several months down the line the screen might start to separate or some other related problem will arise, & I'll be left to deal with Asus direct for a warranty repair. It makes far more sense to get it replaced now, so I'm just about to contact Amazon to tell them that this tablet, the third one that they have sent me, is also faulty.
Here's hoping my fourth will be fault free as it'll be the last one I get - if there's a problem with it then it'll be returned for a refund & I'll start to look at other brands of tablets to buy instead.
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If you check out the Nexus 7 forum (also an ASUS tablet) you can gleam some interesting information about the screen separation issues. It's not as easy to take the Infinity apart, so fixes aren't readily available, but I'm sure the issues are related.
I wonder if the glass and digitizer on this tablet are stuck down by something similar to double sided foam tape.
Might be a contact film type adhesive too.
My experience with these type of sticky adhesives is that sometimes a little warmth or just over time they will adhere better.
I did have a slight clicking on the bottom of my tablet, it's not there now.
Just some thoughts.
Thats OK said:
I wonder if the glass and digitizer on this tablet are stuck down by something similar to double sided foam tape.
Might be a contact film type adhesive too.
My experience with these type of sticky adhesives is that sometimes a little warmth or just over time they will adhere better.
I did have a slight clicking on the bottom of my tablet, it's not there now.
Just some thoughts.
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From the ASUS Nexus 7 forums I understand that the loose screen/screen separation may be due to adhesion issues that can be somewhat or completely solved by gentle heat followed by light, consistent pressure. Someone did try that with his Infinity with limited results but I think his frame may not have fit properly as well. The crunching sound some have reported may be due to a really crunchy type of tape used to hold down the battery, if there's any excess flex that causes the screen/digitizer to touch the tape. There was also a screen lift/light bleed issue caused by over-tightened screws in the frame holding the motherboard, etc together. That was user fixable, by just loosening the screws and making sure that they were all fairly evenly tightened. That also really helped with the light bleed issues too.
I received my replacement from Amazon, this one is all good, it even has the cooler color screen I like compared to original, sweet!
I have just sent back my second tablet to amazon after receiving the first one with nearly jammed in buttons and a clicking screen. The second one I got had a little clicking to start and then got progressively worse until I chose to return it. Amazon emailed me and said that they are just going to refund me my money instead of sending out another one with probably similar problems... don't really know what to do now... any other good tablets coming out? Haha
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The way these tablets are held together is via a longer L shaped plastic edge on the faceplate that mates top edge first to a the ledge built into the backshell. Once inserted under the shell at the top edge the rest of the screen can lay down into the rest of the backshell. There are smaller L shaped clips up and down the outsides which click into place via finger pressure. The bottom edge is secured by two metal slide locks which mount the front to the back much like an old style door chain where the round part fits into a large hole and then slides into a narrower opening to latch it into place.
The point of this post? if the sides or top seem loose you can probably click them together with finger pressure. if the bottom is loose the latch got locked without the round part in place. for this you should return if you have warranty left. If it crunches they probably broke an L shaped clip while assembling.
I received my 2nd Infinity today and I immediately noticed the screen on the bottom left hand corner is above the frame and the rest of the bottom part of the screen flexes when I hold it normally. I'm sending it back. I'll give the Infinity one more chance and hope I get a good one. If not, I'll have to look at other options. At some point enough is enough.
My advice for anyone that has build quality issues with their Infinity is to return it. That is a lot of money to spend to keep a tablet that could break down the line. I wouldn't take any chances, but that's just me.
Seriously though, does anyone know of any other top end tabs coming out soon? I'm tired of dealing with sh*t quality
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I purchased the TF700 from amazon and recieved this Friday shipped from France was very happy with it and last night spent a few hours playing around on it whilst docked with the keyboard i then folded it up (carefully) and put it in a safe place, this Morning I opened it and shocked to see there is a crack in the top left hand corner near the ASUS logo, I have been very carefull with it and not banged it or dropped it and not been heavy handed with it . I did a search on google and seen a thread on here regarding the prime and the screen cracking whilst docked and folded up . the designs look identical so this would seem the be the same problem, Im going to contact ASUS tomorrow but im not holding out much hope on a satisfactory outcome.. absolutely gutted first decent bit of kit i've bought in years and its bust in two days
thought i best warn people so they don't suffer the same fate.
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I purchased the TF700 from amazon and recieved this Friday shipped from France was very happy with it and last night spent a few hours playing around on it whilst docked with the keyboard i then folded it up (carefully) and put it in a safe place, this Morning I opened it and shocked to see there is a crack in the top left hand corner near the ASUS logo, I have been very carefull with it and not banged it or dropped it and not been heavy handed with it . I did a search on google and seen a thread on here regarding the prime and the screen cracking whilst docked and folded up . the designs look identical so this would seem the be the same problem, Im going to contact ASUS tomorrow but im not holding out much hope on a satisfactory outcome.. absolutely gutted first decent bit of kit i've bought in years and its bust in two days
thought i best warn people so they don't suffer the same fate.
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Same for me, though put screen protector on it now, and you can't see it anymore and its works the same. Though the stress if off the glass so it wont break again, I think its a big fault of ASUS. To not fix this if a previous model had the same fault.
f700 cracked screen as well
I have the same problem as well. I have a two week old and found a crack in the screen this evening. It looks like the glass is slightly bent outward meaning it's a stress fracture and not caused by dropping the tablet op dropping something on the tablet.
It looks like this is always a problem in combination with the dock. I've found other threads here and on transformerforums dot com (can't post direct link as new member).
I wasn't aware of this problem. If I was I wouldn't have bought the dock. I really wanted to like this tablet but it's not off to a good start.
Just heard about this issue; being my first ever tablet would hate to have it happen, I feel for you
When you open it do you open from the centre? I read on another forum lifting a corner can put stress on it.
Same for me. 3 days old tab and a broken screen when i wanted to pull out the tab from the dockingstation carefully. Cracked screen from the upper left to the upper right side. Asus say it is my fault an i have to pay for repair. I hate Asus for this and i'll never ever buy a product of this company.
Any change to see picture/s of these cracks?
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This is just one reason why Square trade Warranty is a really good idea... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903575 is another.
Here is my picture. Crack is hard to see on a photo. From top left to the top right.
yeah that stinks. i honestly don't know if they would even warranty RMA that or not. I keep mine docked almost all the time for the past idk 6 months (TF201 and now TF700) and have yet to have an issue. I think some tabs are manufactured in such a way that the screen pops out a little and the closing of the dock/tab combo puts stress on the glass causing breakage. sorry to see that
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Here is my picture. Crack is hard to see on a photo. From top left to the top right.
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Now that sucks
I would take it back to where you got it from and have them send it back to Asus if you only had it a couple days. Paying $500 for it and it cracked in two days, that's crazy. They will just send it back to Asus.
I already sent it back to amazon.de.
They sent it back to me and told me that a broken glass is always the fault of the user. Nice customer service I sent it to Asus and same story. Broken display is always user intendet. No warranty. Nice customer service from Asus. Believe me i will never ever buy a Asus product again.
Are you in the uk? Did you purchase by credit card m if so they are equally liable along with the retailer, and in this case there seems enough reports to suggest this is a common design flaw, so take it up with them citing the significant number of reports here?
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I hate to say this, but it is not hard to see that problem. Am sorry you have to go though this.
This is why
SENT FROM ASUS INFINITY TF700
Stay away from ASUS Products
daveharmo said:
I purchased the TF700 from amazon and recieved this Friday shipped from France was very happy with it and last night spent a few hours playing around on it whilst docked with the keyboard i then folded it up (carefully) and put it in a safe place, this Morning I opened it and shocked to see there is a crack in the top left hand corner near the ASUS logo, I have been very carefull with it and not banged it or dropped it and not been heavy handed with it . I did a search on google and seen a thread on here regarding the prime and the screen cracking whilst docked and folded up . the designs look identical so this would seem the be the same problem, Im going to contact ASUS tomorrow but im not holding out much hope on a satisfactory outcome.. absolutely gutted first decent bit of kit i've bought in years and its bust in two days
thought i best warn people so they don't suffer the same fate.
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Same thing happened to my less than 2 month old TF700. Crack is across the screen from left to right 1/3 from the top. I just opened it one morning and the crack was there. No bumgs, no drops, the exterior was crack, bump free. Sent it to their service center and their head tech stated that it was user induced damage and even implied that my device was already opened 'coz of "scratches" in the locking mechanism. I talked to their tech and he said that all their products are quality checked and there was no way that the crack was caused by faulty assembly, and I pointed out that there was a loose bulge on the left and right side of the tablet, but he wasn't able to give me a reason. He said that he's the last word on it and it's a dead end.
I guess that's what Asus calls VIP Treatment for their customers.
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Same thing happened to my less than 2 month old TF700. Crack is across the screen from left to right 1/3 from the top. I just opened it one morning and the crack was there. No bumgs, no drops, the exterior was crack, bump free. Sent it to their service center and their head tech stated that it was user induced damage and even implied that my device was already opened 'coz of "scratches" in the locking mechanism. I talked to their tech and he said that all their products are quality checked and there was no way that the crack was caused by faulty assembly, and I pointed out that there was a loose bulge on the left and right side of the tablet, but he wasn't able to give me a reason. He said that he's the last word on it and it's a dead end.
I guess that's what Asus calls VIP Treatment for their customers.
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Wow, this is the exact opposite experience that I have had with them on this issue. I support a number of these that are used as thin client replacements for sales staff and several of them have gone through this process due to unexplainable cracks in their screen. In all 4 cases that I know of, Asus did the repair for free. Since a cracked screen is really not something that I can do anything for, I have been having them RMA the unit themselves. They have never had a problem and in most cases had it back in a couple weeks(longest was 3). I am in the US and I am pretty sure they have been sent to the Texas repair center.
I told the users when they called to explain that it has not been dropped, or banged into anything, there are no visible signs of damage other than the screen crack... and that you believe the crack might have been caused by the dock.
Sorry for the unlucky others who have been met with accusations and refusal. FYI- sometimes it helps to complain to the higher ups or maybe Gary or Tien- they have always been willing to help or at least refer me to someone who can give me more than the standard RMA treatment.

Prime Dock Won't Latch Anymore, Suggestions?

Long story short, I bought the Transformer Prime and dock in late June. About a month later I traded the tablet for the Infinity and kept the dock since I read many people stating that it was compatible. First thing I noticed with the Infinity is that it required more force to dock the tablet into the keyboard. I had to push down and slide the lock tab to the right to actually lock the tablet. About a couple weeks ago I noticed that with the tablet docked and the lock tab pushed all the way to the right, I could easily slide the tablet upwards and remove it from the dock without sliding the lock tab to the left first. What this means is that the tablet could easily become undocked, causing it to fall easily if held improperly. The locking mechanism seems to work properly, but I'm not sure if the locking pins have become worn or if the part that the pins connect to inside the tablet have rounded off or something. Has anyone else experienced this problem yet, and if so, what are the possible solutions to fix this? If it's a problem with the dock, I'll probably just end up buying the newer dock ASUS released recently that's stated to be compatible with the Infinity. I've also thought about taking my tablet to Best Buy and seeing if it will dock securely with one of their docks to see if I can rule out the dock. If it's a problem with the tablet itself, I guess I'm SOL. Right now I'm staring at bits of a torn up paper towel, contemplating shoving them into the holes to see if it will temporarily fix the problem, lol.
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I'm guessing you have the same problem as me. There are plastic hooks that are on the dock latch and they broke off on mine. I just figured the problem out last week. I'm going to try to send it back soon for warranty.
First thing I noticed with the Infinity is that it required more force to dock the tablet into the keyboard. I had to push down and slide the lock tab to the right to actually lock the tablet.
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Yikes. I had this experience too. Mine is still secure though. I hope that doesn't change.
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I'm guessing you have the same problem as me. There are plastic hooks that are on the dock latch and they broke off on mine. I just figured the problem out last week. I'm going to try to send it back soon for warranty.
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Just wondering, is the dock still covered under warranty if your bootloader is unlocked? I'd like to send my dock to Asus if I find out the latches on it are broken.
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I have the same problem
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The locking mechanism seems to work properly, but I'm not sure if the locking pins have become worn or if the part that the pins connect to inside the tablet have rounded off or something. Has anyone else experienced this problem yet, and if so, what are the possible solutions to fix this?
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I have your exact problem! There is nothing wrong with the locking pins on mine. They're metal and are designed not to be damaged if the tablet is inserted in the locked position. The issue is the locking pins do not line up with the small piece of metal in the locking grooves/holes on the tablet. I can see tiny abrasion marks a few millimetres in front of where they should be at the bottom of my tablet showing that they simply are not lining up.
The issue is with the dock. This should be covered on warranty.
R.e. trying to buy another one - I would warn you that consensus appears to be that the TF700 dock is structurally identical in every way to the TF201 dock. The only difference is the finishing colour which is slightly different and the cost of the TF700 dock which ASUS kindly increased.
My unit came together with a 'TF700' dock and the colours match. And like you it was a very tight fit to start with. I didn't notice the latch problem until last week though (because I actually never tried to remove the tablet with the lock mechanism ON before!).
Thanks dude. Would anyone be kind enough to direct me to Asus's warranty claims department? I can't f find a link to save my life lol.
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How did you get on with the warranty repair?
I have opened up a POLL on transformer forums to see how many users have experienced the docking pins in the tablet either rounding off or snapping off completely.
I'd really appreciate if any of you see this message would go there and make a report to have your voice counted.
You can find it here:
http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...ining-pins-snapped-off-poll-you-affected.html
Also, there's another thread that covers this issue (among possible other issues) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107044
I've been in contact with ASUS Support in the Netherlands -- they claim it is user-induced damage. I have written a slightly spikier mail, but will have to weigh my legal option if they remain on their stance. A device this expensive should have better build quality.
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I'm guessing you have the same problem as me. There are plastic hooks that are on the dock latch and they broke off on mine. I just figured the problem out last week. I'm going to try to send it back soon for warranty.
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Did you try ASUS warranty? There is a poll here
... trying to get ASUS to recognise this is a design flaw and not customer induced damage
because
a) The docking tabs in the tablet are PLASTIC
b) There seems to be a tendency for left or right side of tablet to 'catch' in the dock as you remove it and if this occurs just before you release the locking tab---- crack! Locking tab should have hold fast LOCK and UNLOCK positions instead of being spring loaded
I too have this problem. We actually have 2 Infinities and 2 docks. One tablet works fine with both docks, and the other won't stay connected to either dock, so it's definitely the tablet that is broken. Looking inside I can see both plastic pieces are broken off.
What are people's experience with this? Is Asus telling they won't cover it before you even send it in? Are they giving any estimates for what it costs to repair? Pretty crappy that they make a small structural item out of plastic and then say "screw you".
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I too have this problem. We actually have 2 Infinities and 2 docks. One tablet works fine with both docks, and the other won't stay connected to either dock, so it's definitely the tablet that is broken. Looking inside I can see both plastic pieces are broken off.
What are people's experience with this? Is Asus telling they won't cover it before you even send it in? Are they giving any estimates for what it costs to repair? Pretty crappy that they make a small structural item out of plastic and then say "screw you".
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Yes, this is the oen issue that made me put ASUS on my blacklist of ****ty companies -- they put it on "user-induced damage", unseen, and if you send it in, they'll take the 125 Euros anyway, even if they only take a crap and wipe their ***es with the RMA form. I'm happy with the tablet as it nw runs, but NONE of that happiness has to do with AUSS' screwy behavior, poor hardware design decisions and even worse customer support.
I was looking for a Win8 tablet for the family, but the only viable option for now is the HP Envy v2 -- as I said, I will never buy ASUS again. And I have never boycotted anything in my life, be it digital or physical, so that says something. :S

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