I have a Infuse running the Unofficial CM10.1 - 1/14/2013 build on T-mobile's $30 unlimited web, text, and 100 minutes plan and I'm trying to find the best solution to using VoIP with Google Voice. Since I only have 100 minutes I'm looking to take advantage of the 5GB of 4G data with which I don't even get 3G apparently with an Infuse on T-Mobile as I understand it.
I have searched all infuse forums and elsewhere to the best of my ability and have found these options:
- A possibly outdated method for getting Wifi calling with T-mobile. I was looking for confirmation that this would work with CM10.
- Sipdroid
- GrooveIP
- Skype.
- Talkatone sucked so I'm not considering it.
I'm basically just wondering if there are any other options out there for VoIP or if anyone has any recommendations.
Thanks in advanced.
Edit: Also, I've been looking for anyway to improve my mobile data speeds and service in general with T-Mobile. If any other Infuse owners on T-Mobile have suggestions that would be great.
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My wife and I are on Sprint with Evos. We're thinking about switching to T-Mobile and getting Sensations.
For me the biggest hangup is how the phone and T-Mobile service will integrate with Google Voice. My current plan is to port my cell # to GV, get a new cell # from T-Mobile, and forward calls from GV to the new cell #.
Under the above scenario, will all calls eat minutes from our pool?
Will we still get free T-Mobile to T-Mobile calls?
Do WiFi calls eat minutes? Articles online seem to indicate that as of May they no longer do, but the website and T-Mobile reps say they will.
Any help/advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
I was in the same boat as you. I have a ported Voice number as well. Yes, if you use their network, you will still get the free tmo to tmo. And the weekend and nights that they offer, depending on your plan. And WiFi does use your minutes if they are whenever minutes.
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I just switched myelf. I got the new unlimited talk/text/web. Just ported my sprint number to google voice and plan on forwarding all calls to my t mobile phone.
Couldn't pass up the price of the new plan.
You can get free WiFi calling added to your plan so it will not deduct from your plan minutes.
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I just found out that my tmobile contract is over today. Therefore I'm looking to switch over to another carrier. I recently moved and the tmobile and AT&T coverage near my new home is horrible. (Besides, I'm not a big fan of AT&T)
I'm in interested in the SGIII. So started looking at either Verizon or Sprint. I like sprint, but their family plan doesn't quite fit into my cost requirements. Therefore Verizon seems to be the best bet for me in terms of monthly cost. (3 lines, unlimited talk + data).
First Question - Does Verizon still route Skype via their own voice network? I remember couple of years ago, they were blocking Skype calls via Wifi and forced the calls through their network. Not sure if they're still doing that. I travel outside of the country occasionally and would like to make Skype-Out calls via WiFi back home. Plus, I also make frequent international calls, therefore would like to use Skype-Out from home over wifi.
Second - How hard is it to side load apps without rooting on the SGIIII? Such as installing third-party apps for tethering or WiFi-sharing?
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First Question - Does Verizon still route Skype via their own voice network? I remember couple of years ago, they were blocking Skype calls via Wifi and forced the calls through their network. Not sure if they're still doing that. I travel outside of the country occasionally and would like to make Skype-Out calls via WiFi back home. Plus, I also make frequent international calls, therefore would like to use Skype-Out from home over wifi.
Second - How hard is it to side load apps without rooting on the SGIIII? Such as installing third-party apps for tethering or WiFi-sharing?
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I would like to know the answer to that first question also, I am leaving the country in 3 weeks and will only have WiFi.
As to tethering, you need to be rooted for that on the original plans, but I believe the new data plans include that as part of the plan.
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I would like to know the answer to that first question also, I am leaving the country in 3 weeks and will only have WiFi.
As to tethering, you need to be rooted for that on the original plans, but I believe the new data plans include that as part of the plan.
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You don't need to be rooted to tether. There are several programs out there. Foxfi, easy tether, and a few more I would think.
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1. Skype actually didn't come preloaded on the phone. you can check the play store and find 2 versions, 1 from verizon - which only works on the verizon network. and 1 that's actually from skype and works with either wifi or verizon's network.
And I can confirm it works great over wifi - use it almost daily.
2. You don't have to root to tether, but you need root access for some apps.. like adblockers.. etc.
Hope this helps.
Sometimes I feel like it's just me and maybe one other poor soul using this resilient device on T-Mobile's network.
If there's anyone else out there, let's use this thread to share advice and any experience we may have gathered individually.
Some things you could share:
- T-Mobile Plan
- Amount of time with T-Mobile and general review of service
- Why did you leave At&t and have you tried other mobile providers?
- Current ROM on your Infuse
- Do you use Wifi calling or Voip of any kind?
- Do you use T-Mobile apps (visual voicemail, etc..)
- Do you plan on upgrading from the Infuse anytime soon?
- Do you have any tips for other Infusers on the T-Mobile network?
- T-Mobile Plan: $30 / month unlimited text and web (5gb full speed) and 100 minutes talk
- Amount of time with T-Mobile and general review of service: I've been with T-Mobile since January 2013. Service is decent in Southern California and I always get H+ while driving which is great for streaming music. In buildings I'll often get no service at all, especially older buildings. Luckily there is usually Wifi anywhere indoors. The 100 minutes of talk is awful and I always go over it which means 10 cents a minute, but you can't really beat that $30 / month price. I never really get passed 2GB of data even when I tether to my chromebook (yeah, Google sent me a Cr-48) or playbook.
- Why did you leave At&t and have you tried other mobile providers? I left At&t because I was on a family plan paying $35 / month for unlimited talk and text with 200mb / month. 200mb / month was absolutely terrible and I often had to go with no data for that last week. I believe that you should support a company that has a pricing model you agree with even there is a quality drop. I'm also a broke college student who doesn't have a steady job so T-mobile fits me well.
- Current ROM on your Infuse: I'm using SlimBean 7.8 on my Infuse right now. I usually use CM10, but I always liked the DPI of paranoid but hated the rest that came with it, so SlimBean is like my wet dream and it's been working fine so far. I was using GB roms for stability in the past, but nothing beats the beauty of JB on the Infuse.
- Do you use Wifi calling or Voip of any kind? I tried to set up VOIP in a few different ways when I first switched to T-mobile but I was never happy with the quality of calls. I'm sure there is a reliable way to set it up but I may be too lazy. I've never tried Wifi calling, even when I was on GB. It's tempting now, but I'm not ready to go back to GB right now.
- Do you use T-Mobile apps (visual voicemail, etc..): I use visual voicemail. It's actually pretty well done and makes me a little less upset that Google Voicemail doesn't work on prepaid T-Mobile plans.
- Do you plan on upgrading from the Infuse anytime soon?: I'm planning on getting the Nexus 4 when it's released (supposedly right after my birthday). My Infuse has a horribly cracked screen and it's time for an upgrade.
- Do you have any tips for other Infusers on the T-Mobile network?: Not really, that's why I made this thread. I'm only going to be around this forum for another month or so (ironic because I've been lurking sense I got the Infuse two years ago and now all of the sudden I have ten posts under my belt) and I want to get the most out of my Infuse T-Mobile combination before it's too late.
I saw this in the Dev section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455264
The unlimited data plan is a good deal for $30/month.
Have you tried setting up a Google Voice account and use an app like GrooveIp?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en
These apps uses your mobile data and your google voice number to make calls using data without using your minutes
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qkster said:
I saw this in the Dev section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455264
The unlimited data plan is a good deal for $30/month.
Have you tried setting up a Google Voice account and use an app like GrooveIp?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en
These apps uses your mobile data and your google voice number to make calls using data without using your minutes
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qkster,
Thanks for the reply. I have considered that wifi calling build.prop change. It's very tempting, but I'm not ready to give up JellyBean (specifically the dpi on SlimBean, it makes the Infuse screen look amazing even when super cracked).
And yes I have a GV and have used GrooveIP. I made a post asking for advice back when I first got the plan, but no one replied. It seems the best VOIP options are paid and I'm not sure any of them are worth it.
I was going to go the route of setting up a routing server on my vpn and using an open source SIP client - the built in internet calling present in post Ice Cream Sandwich, but I never got around to it and eventually canceled that vpn, oh well.
By the way, I've always wanted to ask what you run on your Infuse specifically? I really appreciate your contributions of Heimdall and the EFS backup script. Both have saved my ass in the past.
Even though it's not always the most organized, this community has really made the Infuse what it is.
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qkster,
Thanks for the reply. I have considered that wifi calling build.prop change. It's very tempting, but I'm not ready to give up JellyBean (specifically the dpi on SlimBean, it makes the Infuse screen look amazing even when super cracked).
And yes I have a GV and have used GrooveIP. I made a post asking for advice back when I first got the plan, but no one replied. It seems the best VOIP options are paid and I'm not sure any of them are worth it.
I was going to go the route of setting up a routing server on my vpn and using an open source SIP client - the built in internet calling present in post Ice Cream Sandwich, but I never got around to it and eventually canceled that vpn, oh well.
By the way, I've always wanted to ask what you run on your Infuse specifically? I really appreciate your contributions of Heimdall and the EFS backup script. Both have saved my ass in the past.
Even though it's not always the most organized, this community has really made the Infuse what it is.
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I think the ROM really depends on how things suit your needs to tinker or to experiment.
ICS and JB offers more options for the i997. The costs are battery life, video recorder @ 720 and ?.
For the Infuse, I still prefer GB with Zen's Synthesis kernel.
(Nothing wrong with CM10+ - and I'M GLAD of work that has been done for it. After trying CM9 and CM10 for a brief period, I find myself falling back to the TW interface as a matter of preference.)
I have an older ATT voice plan with plenty of minutes so I have not had to search other alternatives.
I have a limited data plan, 200mb. I've done ok limiting my data use to email, IM etc.
It's not available on GB, but I do like the data management of JB and the ability to limit certain apps background data usage though.
I've tried GV with Groove IP and found it acceptable on home wifi. It's not the greatest but works well enough.
If you haven't, I would suggest trying the modded build prop for data calling.
Nothing to lose really. Just save a back up of the old build.prop.
I'm also on the T-Mobile $30 plan. Great plan especially with discounts at Target + Redcard so the monthly price often works out to about $25 a month. No "maintenance fees" either.
For VOIP, I use:
Google Voice forwarding to a Callcentric number for inbound calls
Voice+ (callback) for outbound calls
Native Android SIP client connected to Callcentric
This is a free implementation. VOIP quality over 3G is good even in low signal areas. The only weaknesses to this solution are due to Android's poor SIP stack: no echo cancellation and limited codec support (G.711/PCM). CSipSimple solves both of these issues but I still prefer the native dialer for integration and overall user experience.
As far as T-Mobile service on the Infuse goes, go to airportal.de to check HSPA+ coverage. With a strong signal, I can pull 12-15Mbps, much better than the 6-8Mbps max on ATT. YMMV of course.
It just won't work on this phone for me. I get redirected to a tmobile login page everytime I enter a website. Called tmobile/visit the store and they tried to fix it for hours but there's no solution besides changing the data plan. The plan works fine on my GNex. Maybe the problem and solution is similar to this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47203432&postcount=70
My knowledge of Android is too limited to find a fix so maybe someone that knows what they're might have an idea.
t-mobile web2go data plan not working on nexus 5
Same exact scenario for me. I've been trying to test different APNs that worked on my Nexus 4 but to no avail. I'm really hoping with is able to find a solution for this. I've used the web2go plan for my HTC hero, GNexus, and Nexus 4. t-mobile agents are telling me to upgrade to the premium internet. I'm having doubts that this will work for this phone because of the LTE network. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!!
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It just won't work on this phone for me. I get redirected to a tmobile login page everytime I enter a website. Called tmobile/visit the store and they tried to fix it for hours but there's no solution besides changing the data plan. The plan works fine on my GNex. Maybe the problem and solution is similar to this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47203432&postcount=70
My knowledge of Android is too limited to find a fix so maybe someone that knows what they're might have an idea.
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tmobile is in the process of switching EVERYONES (yes everyones, you dont have a choice in the matter) grandfathered plans to their new simple choice plans. So basically, they wont let you transfer it to a new phone, ANY new phone. and even with your current phone, you will be forced to switch, eventually.
I would suggest just bite the bullet now and switch, because its happening sooner or later
Are you using the same old Sim card, trimmed down to micro-size or did you manage to switch to a new micr-Sim and spoke to CS to update it - otherwise, LTE and even HSPA won't be provisioned properly for it, that is - if grandfathered plans are allowed to run on 3G/4G LTE signals.
Good grief - we had a T-Mo p/p line using a Moto candy bar phone a few years ago with free web2go, super slow as in GPRS speed, not even Edge or 2G, since discontinued & transitioned to PAYG with Gold status - I use it as backup for emergencies since my primary carrier is CDMA with Big Red (well, not for long - less than 2 weeks before the big switch)
My PAYG line was/is still on the 25 cents per minute calling plan with data - but, I managed to update the activated Sim card in use to a brand new micro-sim card, and I'm using the N5 with Google Voice & Talkatone to make "test" calls over WiFi at home & in the field offices - I switched over to the $3 daily unlimited call/text & 200MB data plan just to test out LTE, and it worked - great speed & flawless. Speed is far superior to VZW's 3G data under speedtest condition.
I tried to stay current with "tweaks" over at Howardforum as well - IMO - there's no way to access HSPA/LTE if you stay on those old plans with grandfathered t-zones & sneak in.
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Are you using the same old Sim card, trimmed down to micro-size or did you manage to switch to a new micr-Sim and spoke to CS to update it - otherwise, LTE and even HSPA won't be provisioned properly for it, that is - if grandfathered plans are allowed to run on 3G/4G LTE signals.
Good grief - we had a T-Mo p/p line using a Moto candy bar phone a few years ago with free web2go, super slow as in GPRS speed, not even Edge or 2G, since discontinued & transitioned to PAYG with Gold status - I use it as backup for emergencies since my primary carrier is CDMA with Big Red (well, not for long - less than 2 weeks before the big switch)
My PAYG line was/is still on the 25 cents per minute calling plan with data - but, I managed to update the activated Sim card in use to a brand new micro-sim card, and I'm using the N5 with Google Voice & Talkatone to make "test" calls over WiFi at home & in the field offices - I switched over to the $3 daily unlimited call/text & 200MB data plan just to test out LTE, and it worked - great speed & flawless. Speed is far superior to VZW's 3G data under speedtest condition.
I tried to stay current with "tweaks" over at Howardforum as well - IMO - there's no way to access HSPA/LTE if you stay on those old plans with grandfathered t-zones & sneak in.
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I got the micro SIM made last year when I got the nexus 4. Wasn't aware that there were different provisions regarding SIM cards. It's looking more like switching data plans is the only solution.
I'll take another crack with T-Mo CS.
Thanks all.
ok, so im getting the 100 minute, unlimited data 30$ tmobile plan on my sprint nexus 5 cause sprint totally sucks.
i have a google voice number and i was just wondering, now that hangouts has calling integrated, can i just use google voice number to make and receive calls over data?
im reading conflicting things, like some people want call forwarding from tmobile (im thinking they want their cell number forwarded to google voice) which 1)isnt an option and 2) not really needed since people will be calling my seperate google voice number
also reading that tmobile blocks google voice on their prepaid plans for some folks
is anyone using the 30 month 100 minute unlimited tmobile data plan and making and receiving calls using a seperate google voice number?
Yes VoIP in Hangouts works just fine with the T-Mobile $30 plan. You can't forward from T-Mobile to GV but that doesn't matter if you use your GV number to take incoming calls.
dwreck420 said:
ok, so im getting the 100 minute, unlimited data 30$ tmobile plan on my sprint nexus 5 cause sprint totally sucks.
i have a google voice number and i was just wondering, now that hangouts has calling integrated, can i just use google voice number to make and receive calls over data?
im reading conflicting things, like some people want call forwarding from tmobile (im thinking they want their cell number forwarded to google voice) which 1)isnt an option and 2) not really needed since people will be calling my seperate google voice number
also reading that tmobile blocks google voice on their prepaid plans for some folks
is anyone using the 30 month 100 minute unlimited tmobile data plan and making and receiving calls using a seperate google voice number?
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Yes, I just set up a GV number and I'm going to begin providing it to my family members and close friends to use as the number to reach me. Everyone else can leave a message for me to pick up in visual VM, and then I'll call them back if needed. The only negative is that T-Mobile's coverage really stinks outside of a few areas where it's screaming fast. Inside my house in Metro Detroit, my wife can get 30 Mbps on her Verizon GS4 while I get 5-8 on my LG G3. And it can be really spotty as you travel between cities & towns, so missing a few calls & texts when driving is going to be a real probability. But for $30/mo, I can probably live with it.
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Yes, I just set up a GV number and I'm going to begin providing it to my family members and close friends to use as the number to reach me. Everyone else can leave a message for me to pick up in visual VM, and then I'll call them back if needed. The only negative is that T-Mobile's coverage really stinks outside of a few areas where it's screaming fast. Inside my house in Metro Detroit, my wife can get 30 Mbps on her Verizon GS4 while I get 5-8 on my LG G3. And it can be really spotty as you travel between cities & towns, so missing a few calls & texts when driving is going to be a real probability. But for $30/mo, I can probably live with it.
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The coverage is what killed it for me. I'd been waiting for Hangouts and voice to merge but switched to straight talk last month. Happy to finally get coverage in the locations I'm in the most.
First, you sure can just use Google Voice number to make and receive calls over data. In fact, Hangouts only use data, not voice/talk minute at all.
Second, prepaid mobile phone plans do not have conditional forwarding which is required to forward incoming calls to mobile DID (Direct Inward Dialing -- telephone number) to Google Voice DID. Therefore, you are correct. It is not an option. Moreover, you are also correct as to there is no such need to forward calls from mobile DID to Google Voice DID due to people will be using separate Google Voice DID. I would suggest you port Sprint mobile DID to Ring.to and have Ring.to forward all incoming calls and texts to your Google Voice DID. Consequently, people have been using your current Sprint mobile DID will continue be able to contact you without changing your DID. You just get a new DID from T-Mobile when you sign up for $30 prepaid plan for 100 minutes talk, unlimited text and data with first 5 GB up to LTE speeds.
Third, I am using $30 prepaid plan for 100 minutes talk, unlimited text and data with first 5 GB up to LTE speeds and using Hangouts for outgoing calls. It just work flawlessly! I use Voxox for incoming calls and do not use mobile DID came with T-Mobile $30 plan at all.