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CWM vs TWRP ??

I'm very new to android and have been using Clockworkmod Recovery basically since day 3 or 4 since I got my HTC One XL...
I'm just wondering how many of you are using TWRP instead of Clockworkmod Recovery.. and if so, do you recommend me flashing that instead of CWM?
I have no real complaints with CWM and dont mind using the volume keys to navigate. But besides that, are there any real advantages besides the touch interface?? also, can someone post a link where i can find TWRP ?
thanks guys!! I LOVE the community on here!! it's great!!!
also, when people refer to "Touch Recovery" are y'all referring to TWRP ?

trichrome1 said:
I'm very new to android and have been using Clockworkmod Recovery basically since day 3 or 4 since I got my HTC One XL...
I'm just wondering how many of you are using TWRP instead of Clockworkmod Recovery.. and if so, do you recommend me flashing that instead of CWM?
I have no real complaints with CWM and dont mind using the volume keys to navigate. But besides that, are there any real advantages besides the touch interface?? also, can someone post a link where i can find TWRP ?
thanks guys!! I LOVE the community on here!! it's great!!!
also, when people refer to "Touch Recovery" are y'all referring to TWRP ?
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I personally use twrp I like its setup look and feel and it is a little speedier than cwm when making backups, flashing etc in my opinion. I used cwm on every phone I had except this one x. After twrp was introduced I switched and love it.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

i believe CWM is also touch screen, just no buttons, so you gotta be careful not push a wrong link - but they have conf screen as well.... haven't tried TWRP - would also like to know if it has any advantages... thanks!

will try
eraste said:
I personally use twrp I like its setup look and feel and it is a little speedier than cwm when making backups, flashing etc in my opinion. I used cwm on every phone I had except this one x. After twrp was introduced I switched and love it.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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Thanks for the reply,
I'm going to flash twrp and try it out.. see what I think. I'm just enjoying playing with my phone

twrp ?
Can someone point me into the right direction to TWRP..
I can't seem to find a download link anywhere..
and correct command is ..
fastboot flash recovery twrp_file_name.whateverextentionis
?

trichrome1 said:
Can someone point me into the right direction to TWRP..
I can't seem to find a download link anywhere..
and correct command is ..
fastboot flash recovery twrp_file_name.whateverextentionis
?
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here ya go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677447
All needed info is there or the links provided there to the official page of TWRP

attempting first backup
just backed up my current rom... twrp seems a little more thorough with more options and there's even a progress bar when backing up.

eraste said:
here ya go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677447
All needed info is there or the links provided there to the official page of TWRP
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Would i able to flash CWM one click again....? did u ever try to go back to CWM....?

ted77usa said:
Would i able to flash CWM one click again....? did u ever try to go back to CWM....?
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No never went back. Not sure what the process would be to get back to CWM. Dont see why the one click wouldnt work but dont take my word for it dont want to give any wrong information.

eraste said:
No never went back. Not sure what the process would be to get back to CWM. Dont see why the one click wouldnt work but dont take my word for it dont want to give any wrong information.
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I'm just curious....but so far i have no problem with CWM....if ain't broke don't fix it right.....
trichrome1 said:
just backed up my current rom... twrp seems a little more thorough with more options and there's even a progress bar when backing up.
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Just FYI... u can't restore ur CWM back up file with TWRP.... it's totally different

process
ted77usa said:
Would i able to flash CWM one click again....? did u ever try to go back to CWM....?
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to go back to CWM, all you would need to do is place the CWM.img in the fast boot folder, and
go to the dir where u have fastboot files (mine is c:\fastboot ) but i am also running a virtual machine on a mac.. process should be the same since i'm still using windows..
anyways in command prompt.. navigate to c:\fastboot
and then,
fastboot flash recovery CWM.img
(or whatever your clockworkmod recovery image is named)
I haven't tried this, but it's how i originally flashed cwm and it's how i just flashed twrp.... so far it's sweet, a lot more options as well.. don't see myself going back anytime soon. (sorry cwm devs, still love cwm)

trichrome1 said:
to go back to CWM, all you would need to do is place the CWM.img in the root of your sdcard on the phone, and
go to the dir where u have fastboot files (mine is c:\fastboot ) but i am also running a virtual machine on a mac.. process should be the same since i'm still using windows..
anyways in command prompt.. navigate to c:\fastboot
and then,
fastboot flash recovery CWM.img
(or whatever your clockworkmod recovery image is named)
I haven't tried this, but it's how i originally flashed cwm and it's how i just flashed twrp.... so far it's sweet, a lot more options as well.. don't see myself going back anytime soon. (sorry cwm devs, still love cwm)
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+1. Yea it's easy to flash back and forth between recoveries. Just do it the same way you flash the first one.

cwm twrp incompatibility
ted77usa said:
I'm just curious....but so far i have no problem with CWM....if ain't broke don't fix it right.....
Just FYI... u can't restore ur CWM back up file with TWRP.... it's totally different
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right, wish I'd known that before. I ended up in bootloops when using twrp to ry and restore a cwm nandroid. luckily, i was able to reflash a beans rom and get it running again, but in the process, I believe I have messed up something. the kernel, bootloader, maybe how the file system is set up. dont mix them up. choose one and stick with it.

Well, I'm pretty sure that one, twrp is simpler, more pretty, more useful, faster, easier.
Also Pretty sure cwm in some cases ruins your phone forever.
Go a head and use cwm though.

TWRP has and official release for the One XL although last time I checked CWM only has a port. I highly suggest using TWRP. It should work better
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Another advantage of TWRP is that the sdcard can be mounted while in recovery mode. I don't think that's supported in CWM.

That may be the case for the htc, the thing is, I am on a verizon samsung galaxy s 3.
I wonder if that makes a difference!?
I was reading elsewhere in these forums that the non kexec kernels ( meaning that the bootloader is actually unlocked) don't work as well on twrp
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app

fritzboyle said:
That may be the case for the htc, the thing is, I am on a verizon samsung galaxy s 3.
I wonder if that makes a difference!?
I was reading elsewhere in these forums that the non kexec kernels ( meaning that the bootloader is actually unlocked) don't work as well on twrp
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Every device is different, this discussion is about the One X(L). If you want more info on CWM vs. TWRP on the Galaxy S3, head over to the forum for your device. Don't follow the GS3, but would assume that its officially supported by CWM (which makes a huge difference). That is not even the case for the One X. Its not yet officially supported, and the CWM we have is just a port. Although an official version is in testing.

redpoint73 said:
Every device is different, this discussion is about the One X(L). If you want more info on CWM vs. TWRP on the Galaxy S3, head over to the forum for your device. Don't follow the GS3, but would assume that its officially supported by CWM (which makes a huge difference). That is not even the case for the One X. Its not yet officially supported, and the CWM we have is just a port. Although an official version is in testing.
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I needed help how do.you erase battery history with twrp
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app

htcbrazilian said:
I needed help how do.you erase battery history with twrp
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On the main/home TWRP screen, go Wipe>battery stats.
But battery stats get wiped every time you charge the phone, anyway. There is not benefit to wiping it manually: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-engineer-debunks-myth-wiping-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/

[Q] Steps to root and flash a new rom

Coming from a DX, the process to root / flash on the galaxy doesn't seem that much different. Although, there seems to be greater risk for issues around imei information, etc....
So, I've read about everything I can on the forums, trying to make sure I understand all of the ins and outs and I'm starting to feel pretty comfortable with the process, however I would like someone to just confirm that i've got everything correct......
Based on this guide ( [GUIDE][VZW Edition]How to root your Galaxy SIII & More!(ROMs/CWM/Stock)) , this is how I understand things if somone could either comfirm or correct my information I would greatly appreciate it!
1. using section 2 in the guide for windows users, I use the RootDebugFS bat file to root the phone.
2. After rooting, and prior to unlocking the boot loader, I backup my IMEI using Comprehensive IMEI/EFS Backup method listed in the guide.
3. From here I can unlock the bootloader and install CWM reovery.
4. At this point, back in the droid X world I would take a back up of my system so I have a semi - stock image to go back to.
5. Now I can download any of the different custom roms listed and follow the instructions in the OP to flash that rom.
Going back to stock.
1. Should I need to go back to Stock, I would just use the ODIN tool to flash one of the stock images.
Again, If someone could just let me know if i've missed anything or if I'm WAY off base I would appreciate it.
Thanks again, and I love the forum and the community!

yep you got it correct...also if you have any questions feel free to post in my thread!

droidstyle said:
yep you got it correct...also if you have any questions feel free to post in my thread!
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Thank you very much, I really appreciate it!! Can't wait to get started.
I did try to post in your thread, but apparently I'm to much of a NOOB to do so LOL!

nickjensz said:
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it!! Can't wait to get started.
I did try to post in your thread, but apparently I'm to much of a NOOB to do so LOL!
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I've got 2 more questions....
1. I tried to flash the synergy backup for the IMEI/EFS using stock recovery as per the instructions and I got a message that the signatures or something like that wasn't correct and it was aborted.... Thoughts?
2. As far as custom recoveries go.... I'm used to CWM, but I've heard a lot of good things about TWRP. Which would you recommend?

nickjensz said:
I've got 2 more questions....
1. I tried to flash the synergy backup for the IMEI/EFS using stock recovery as per the instructions and I got a message that the signatures or something like that wasn't correct and it was aborted.... Thoughts?
2. As far as custom recoveries go.... I'm used to CWM, but I've heard a lot of good things about TWRP. Which would you recommend?
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#1-Have never had to use it as I have never lost IEMI. May be a way to disable signature check in recovery. Can do permanent fix with terminal emulator.
Type:
su (enter)
reboot nvbackup (enter)
#2- Recovery is personal choice. I have been using TWRP since pre-order release and never had a bad flash or backup. As far as I'm concerned it rocks. Easier navigation and looks good. Some prefer CWM. To each their own. Don't recommend flashing via Rom Manager. Flash straight from recovery.

prdog1 said:
#1-Have never had to use it as I have never lost IEMI. May be a way to disable signature check in recovery. Can do permanent fix with terminal emulator.
Type:
su (enter)
reboot nvbackup (enter)
#2- Recovery is personal choice. I have been using TWRP since pre-order release and never had a bad flash or backup. As far as I'm concerned it rocks. Easier navigation and looks good. Some prefer CWM. To each their own. Don't recommend flashing via Rom Manager. Flash straight from recovery.
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Thank you very much for the advice! I really appreciate it!

signature verification error means you were in stock blue recovery and not cwm recovery.

droidstyle said:
signature verification error means you were in stock blue recovery and not cwm recovery.
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Thanks DroidStyle Wouldn't have gotten this far without the help! Finally got CWM on and flashed i that way and it worked great!
Speaking of CWM though.... in EZRecovery, do I need to hit "FLASH" and then "Reboot" recovery everytime I want to go into CWM or TWRP? If I don't it just takes me to stock recovery.

nickjensz said:
Thanks DroidStyle Wouldn't have gotten this far without the help! Finally got CWM on and flashed i that way and it worked great!
Speaking of CWM though.... in EZRecovery, do I need to hit "FLASH" and then "Reboot" recovery everytime I want to go into CWM or TWRP? If I don't it just takes me to stock recovery.
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you should only need to flash cwm or twrp once, then reboot recovery to get into cwm. im not sure why its not sticking but it should.

[Q] How to unlock bootloader?

Rooting a friend's device. Since my GS3's bootloader was unlocked... I'm a little puzzled with this one. How do I do it exactly? I tried reading about it but the guides on youtube/google didn't provide enough good feedback. I know you have to install drivers and such but could some one please link me to this stuff? Many thanks.

DarthDerron said:
Rooting a friend's device. Since my GS3's bootloader was unlocked... I'm a little puzzled with this one. How do I do it exactly? I tried reading about it but the guides on youtube/google didn't provide enough good feedback. I know you have to install drivers and such but could some one please link me to this stuff? Many thanks.
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akhil17kr said:
does it need to first unlock the phone before rooting the nexus s on official 4.1.2 ????
where to download the root file for 4.1.2 ???
can i follow this guide for first unlock and then installing custom recovery then rooting by installing root file??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545
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This guide works well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545 oldy but still great.
Just use a newer Clockworkmod http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
and super user http://androidsu.com/superuser or SuperSU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 (my fav)
The hardest part is PART 1. Many have issues with Device Manager and getting the computer to read your phone properly.
Use this http://junefabrics.com/android
Use this guide for the drivers if necessary also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901617
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jayjay3333 said:
This guide works well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545 oldy but still great.
Just use a newer Clockworkmod http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
and super user http://androidsu.com/superuser or SuperSU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 (my fav)
The hardest part is PART 1. Many have issues with Device Manager and getting the computer to read your phone properly.
Use this http://junefabrics.com/android
Use this guide for the drivers if necessary also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901617
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Many thanks! Will update if any issues occur.

Here is a step to step guide by me. It will guide you with unlocking the bootloader and flashing latest CWM and TWRP custom recoveries on your Nexus S

DJBhardwaj said:
Here is a step to step guide by me. It will guide you with unlocking the bootloader and flashing latest CWM and TWRP custom recoveries on your Nexus S
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Thanks, but does this work on 4.1.2.? I've read some root methods only work for ICS/GB

I suggest to you to use the Nexus Root Toolkit that helps you very well with unlocking bootloader, rooting the smartphone with or without recovery and flashing new ROMs

DarthDerron said:
Many thanks! Will update if any issues occur.
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Just do it the original way and the RIGHT way. No 1 click crap. This way is the Nexus way and the way that you will learn. Adb is important and may be needed later so learn it now. Fastboot is needed if you ever want to flash factory to update, see if it is a ROM issue or a hardware, etc.
Followed my guides
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium

installed CM12 and lost root and recovery

Hi chaps, yesterday I had an update (CM12) on my rooted OPO and after having done the update I lost root (which I knew I would have anyway) but, surprisingly I also lost TWRP, which is rather unusual. So now, my question is, do I have to go through the whole rooting procedure again as detailed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788632 (procedure which, incidentally, I followed the first time I rooted my phone last year) or if not, what should I do? What steps should I skip?
thanks

duratto said:
Hi chaps, yesterday I had an update (CM12) on my rooted OPO and after having done the update I lost root (which I knew I would have anyway) but, surprisingly I also lost TWRP, which is rather unusual. So now, my question is, do I have to go through the whole rooting procedure again as detailed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788632 (procedure which, incidentally, I followed the first time I rooted my phone last year) or if not, what should I do? What steps should I skip?
thanks
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See this thread, someone with a similar problem, pretty easy to sort if you're near a PC. Just remember to boot back into recovery, before rebooting fully and also turn off the 'update cyanogen recovery' option under developer options.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60446476&postcount=4

Thanks mate, had a very quick look, so essentially the answer is yes, I have to go through the whole procedure again and do it either through the procedure in the first link or in the second (with the toolkit)
thanks
gsmyth said:
See this thread, someone with a similar problem, pretty easy to sort if you're near a PC. Just remember to boot back into recovery, before rebooting fully and also turn off the 'update cyanogen recovery' option under developer options.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60446476&postcount=4
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duratto said:
Thanks mate, had a very quick look, so essentially the answer is yes, I have to go through the whole procedure again and do it either through the procedure in the first link or in the second (with the toolkit)
thanks
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You just need to flash a custom recovery via fastboot or using a PC tool. You can then flash a superSU zip to get root.

Cool thanks. OK so I don't need to unlock the bootloader, I can just go to step 2 in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788632
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You just need to flash a custom recovery via fastboot or using a PC tool. You can then flash a superSU zip to get root.
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duratto said:
Cool thanks. OK so I don't need to unlock the bootloader, I can just go to step 2 in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788632
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Your bootloader is still unlocked, so no need to do that again.

Ah brilliant, thanks for clarifying that!

Confused - A checklist.

So, this is my first time flashing an Android device. I've been reading and searching for two days and I think I have most things in order. Let me check this is what I need to do and in the correct order to flash Cyanogenomod Marshmallow.
Unlock bootloader. (Haven't found a guide for this yet)
Flash latest TWRP (I'm guessing this will be done with Odin?)
Then I can proceed to copy my images and wipe/install them as per the guide.
This place is extremely confusing. There are guides left and right for everything under the sun and figuring out which I'm supposed to be using is a minefield. I just wanted to check I'm on the right path here as my head is getting a little cabbaged with it all.
Thanks!

PerryDigital said:
So, this is my first time flashing an Android device. I've been reading and searching for two days and I think I have most things in order. Let me check this is what I need to do and in the correct order to flash Cyanogenomod Marshmallow.
Unlock bootloader. (Haven't found a guide for this yet)
Flash latest TWRP (I'm guessing this will be done with Odin?)
Then I can proceed to copy my images and wipe/install them as per the guide.
This place is extremely confusing. There are guides left and right for everything under the sun and figuring out which I'm supposed to be using is a minefield. I just wanted to check I'm on the right path here as my head is getting a little cabbaged with it all.
Thanks!
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Device Model?

Ah, sorry. I'm using a GT-P1300.
Thanks

PerryDigital said:
Ah, sorry. I'm using a GT-P1300.
Thanks
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You mean gt-p3100?
You won't need to unlock the bootloader, just update the bootloader or the firmware to Jellybean
choose any one of the above method.
2. Download respective recovery from android andi webpage espresso3g means files meant for GT-P3100 device model.
3. take Nandroid Backup from the custom recovery.
4. follow the Respective Rom Instructions mentioned

billysam said:
You mean gt-p3100?
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Yes! Sorry. Typo!

billysam said:
You mean gt-p3100?
You won't need to unlock the bootloader, just update the bootloader or the firmware to Jellybean
choose any one of the above method.
2. Download respective recovery from android andi webpage espresso3g means files meant for GT-P3100 device model.
3. take Nandroid Backup from the custom recovery.
4. follow the Respective Rom Instructions mentioned
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You're a star pal. I'm already on Jellybean so I assume I can skip that part? And that recovery is exactly the file I downloaded earlier, so it's good to know I was on the right track! I'm struggling for how I actually install the recovery though?
Your assistance has been very appreciated mate.

PerryDigital said:
You're a star pal. I'm already on Jellybean so I assume I can skip that part? And that recovery is exactly the file I downloaded earlier, so it's good to know I was on the right track! I'm struggling for how I actually install the recovery though?
Your assistance has been very appreciated mate.
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Detailed step by step instructions here that should be the same way, just put the newer recovery .md5 file :good:
this is one of my very detailed guide that has all my knowledge compiled about our device that you may find useful. it's a bit lengthy but should be a good read.

Absolutely throwing me here. Installing the latest TWRP doesn't seen to alter anything at all. Everything goes through fine. The only thing I can wonder is in the guide you linked it says "Make sure Re-Partition & F. Reset Time are unchecked" but the images with the guide always have F.Reset ticket. Should it be ticked?
I am right in thinking TWRP should show a new custom menu when I boot to recovery aren't I?

Your guide is an excellent reference point btw. This is great for me starting out, thank you.