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I wanted to know if it is possible to charge the ASUS transformer using a computer?
Is there any hack for it?
umasood said:
I wanted to know if it is possible to charge the ASUS transformer using a computer?
Is there any hack for it?
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IIRC it will charge if the transformer is turned off but very slowly
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When I was driving the other day with it connected to the USB charger in the car (same as PC USB) and it got 4% in about an hour.
isnt this the biggest DOWN SIDE of TF.
Like this is such a basic feature these days that you should be able to charge your android device using PC usb/ charger etc.
I thought there would be some hacks for this. or is this a hardware specific lacking?
The USB plug on the Sync/Charge cable of the Transformer is a USB 3.0 plug. It uses the extra pins of the USB 3.0 for the electricity to charge.
umasood said:
isnt this the biggest DOWN SIDE of TF.
Like this is such a basic feature these days that you should be able to charge your android device using PC usb/ charger etc.
I thought there would be some hacks for this. or is this a hardware specific lacking?
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I don't think this issue is specific to the Transformer. I seem to recall that the iPad comes with a high-current charger, and charges slowly if done via a computer. I think the issue is that the battery is much larger than any smartphone battery, and the USB port spec was created to power things like mice and USB memory sticks, and provides a low current. This way it also won't overload the host computer's power supply and cause stability issues on the computer.
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The USB plug on the Sync/Charge cable of the Transformer is a USB 3.0 plug. It uses the extra pins of the USB 3.0 for the electricity to charge.
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the extra wires in USB 3.0 cables are for higher speed transfers the voltage is still 5.0V the TF uses one of the wires to signal the power supply to provide 15V vs 5 V. The connector is not a true USB 3.0 If you want to charge mobile ,just connect the 12VDC from your vehicle to pins 1 and 4.
After reading this i put my transformer in the USB 3 socket and hey presto... trickle charge enabled! It doesnt say that its dojing it but mine went up from 95 - 96% in the 10 mins i had it pluged in (whilst on it)
mazimo said:
After reading this i put my transformer in the USB 3 socket and hey presto... trickle charge enabled! It doesnt say that its dojing it but mine went up from 95 - 96% in the 10 mins i had it pluged in (whilst on it)
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Awesome, it would only take like 16h to charge it from empty to full then! ... compared to ~1.5-2h depending on use with the 15v charger.
But if you want to charge it from the PC, just hook it up to the 12v rail on the PSU (build a molex to usb adapter or similar)
Edit: what would be interesting though, is if you could charge and sync at the same time by connecting the data cables to a usb port, but keep the power cables hooked to the 12v rail. Or maybe the TF shuts down all sync stuff when its charging...
Just a quick update... After 6 hours if gone up to a whapping...... 76%
I guess it was just playing trick on me!!!! sorry to get peoples hopes up.
Go look at USB3.0 specs. You do not have the current and Voltage necessary to do anything more than a slow trickle charge. 3.0 os basically 2.0 with an extra pair of wires for faster data transfer not higher voltage. The connector on the TF charger is not wired to USB3.0 standards.
The AC adapter reconfigures itself when it recognizes the asus tablet and it gives 12v instead of 5volts. Just tried now and it's working.
I was planning on using my iPad charger to charge my phone, iPad, and TF700 while on the road. It puts out more than enough current at +5 volts but doesn't work with the TF700. The Asus charger outputs +15 and +5 and works with the Asus cable and an OEM cable, and also works charging my phone using a micro-B cable. Is the TF700 charged using +15 volts?
The TF700 booklet says it can be charged from a USB port, which is +5 volts. While that may be an impossible task on a PC, it still means that the TF700 can be charged using a USB cable and +5 volt charger. Why doesn't it work? Has anyone gotten a 2A +5V OEM charger to work with the TF700? Is there a pinout diagram for the Asus cable and charger anywhere? Thanks.
Not sure if this helps, but the keyboard dock (unlike the tablet itself) can only be charged from the charger, not usb, so it must draw more power than a standard usb.
It's also possible your Apple charger usb port is pinned to only work with "apple approved" products? Have you been able to charge other devices from it?
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Studiozut said:
Not sure if this helps, but the keyboard dock (unlike the tablet itself) can only be charged from the charger, not usb, so it must draw more power than a standard usb.
It's also possible your Apple charger usb port is pinned to only work with "apple approved" products? Have you been able to charge other devices from it?
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I don't have a dock nor am I trying to charge the TF700 from a PC USB port. The Apple charger puts out +5 volts to anything plugged into to it and the TF700 apparently "knows" when the Apple charger is connected to it because it turns on if it's off.
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I was planning on using my iPad charger to charge my phone, iPad, and TF700 while on the road. It puts out more than enough current at +5 volts but doesn't work with the TF700. The Asus charger outputs +15 and +5 and works with the Asus cable and an OEM cable, and also works charging my phone using a micro-B cable. Is the TF700 charged using +15 volts?
The TF700 booklet says it can be charged from a USB port, which is +5 volts. While that may be an impossible task on a PC, it still means that the TF700 can be charged using a USB cable and +5 volt charger. Why doesn't it work? Has anyone gotten a 2A +5V OEM charger to work with the TF700? Is there a pinout diagram for the Asus cable and charger anywhere? Thanks.
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It will charge VERY SLOWLY on 5v USB while turned off. Will not charge via 5v USB while on. The TF700 requires at least 12V/2A to charge while on. 15V/1.2A is what's recommended by Asus (based on their proprietary charger specs).
Here's a battery I use to charge my TF700 while on the go, and it also charges my phone, BT headsets and other devices. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796750. Great battery, I highly recommend it.
AspenMan said:
It will charge VERY SLOWLY on 5v USB while turned off. Will not charge via 5v USB while on. The TF700 requires at least 12V/2A to charge while on. 15V/1.2A is what's recommended by Asus (based on their proprietary charger specs).
Here's a battery I use to charge my TF700 while on the go, and it also charges my phone, BT headsets and other devices. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796750. Great battery, I highly recommend it.
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You are correct. With the TF700 turned off, an hour of charging with the 2A Apple charger had increased the battery level from 29% to 34%. I expect the TF700 to be fully charged in only 14 hours!
Thanks.
Have you considered a power inverter? I use this one with my A100 though I use a FM transmitter to charge my phone.
Somewhat related to this: in the past, when using devices that have a power block with a USB port and a charge/sync cable, such as an iPod or even my Galaxy Nexus, I've used a USB extension cable to give me a little extra slack. For some reason, that doesn't seem to work with the Infinity. I've tried three different USB extension cables and the tablet never shows that it's charging. Is there a certain USB cable I can use for this?
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It will charge VERY SLOWLY on 5v USB while turned off. Will not charge via 5v USB while on. The TF700 requires at least 12V/2A to charge while on. 15V/1.2A is what's recommended by Asus (based on their proprietary charger specs).
Here's a battery I use to charge my TF700 while on the go, and it also charges my phone, BT headsets and other devices. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796750. Great battery, I highly recommend it.
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I have that same exact charger. do you use the "I" or the "S" USB port?
I never knew what the difference between the two were
EDIT...i shouldve read the thread lol...you modified yours
I ordered a pair of cables from eBay item # 320942102464. A house charger and a car charger. I just plugged in the dock and seems to be working fine.
USB 3.0?
FrontRowJoe said:
Somewhat related to this: in the past, when using devices that have a power block with a USB port and a charge/sync cable, such as an iPod or even my Galaxy Nexus, I've used a USB extension cable to give me a little extra slack. For some reason, that doesn't seem to work with the Infinity. I've tried three different USB extension cables and the tablet never shows that it's charging. Is there a certain USB cable I can use for this?
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Are you using a USB 2.0 or 3.0 extension cable? It's my understanding that the Infinity uses USB 3.0.
You need 15v to charge the Pad (I kept thinking 11, but the adapter says 5V or 15V output). This makes sense since there are more pins. Standard USB has 5v rails (ther are 4 pins, I 5v power, Data+, Data-, ground). Since our chargers are 40 pins, my assumption is that there are more pins dedicated to charging and multiple pins dedicated to data (possibly a few that are dedicated and some that are for whatever data is being passed through (assumption)). If the adapter is outputting 11v then it can send more power through the cord and multiple pins can push electricity through. When you are only pulling 5v (i.e. most AC->USB transformers) you will need a lot more time to charge, hence the trickle effect (and don't turn on the screen!)
It can be charged with 5v if the tablet is off.
There is a jumper in the USB cable itself that kicks the Asus charger into 15v mode so it doesnt accidentally fry your devices if you plug in, say, your cell phone to charge for a bit.
To make a custom cable just throw 15v across three pins in the connector (5v each). You can find all the info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633747
Yes, i know its for the prime, the connector is exactly the same, the pinouts SHOULD be identical.
DIY approach?
I've got a TF700T and a TF201 dock and a misplaced charger. I ran into the same trouble that a lot of people here did ....... generic chargers not working, USB on my computer only trickle charges the tablet, nothing for the dock, etc.......
After much poking around I learned that both require 12 volts to charge. That said I dug thru my junk and found a 2.2a 12v DC wallwart. I hacked apart a USB extension cable for it's female end, broke out my breadboard and put together a 12v USB connector... that after several days of charging and draining.... charging and draining .... works like a champ.
So to be a bit more specific, pin 1 that's normally 5+ volts I'm supplying 12+. Pin 4 is ground same as always and that's it. If you wish let me know I can probably throw up a little illustration or something.
Since I did that I've refined the whole thing a bit, cleaned it up, wired everything directly and heat shrinked the whole assembly.
It will charge both together or either one by itself in just hours EVEN while using them..... heavily. No overheating, no troubles.
HTH
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Are you using a USB 2.0 or 3.0 extension cable? It's my understanding that the Infinity uses USB 3.0.
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I think the cable type might only matter after the ics.30 update when I was on the ics.26 I could use a standard extention cable, I had my device plugged in when I updated and my device stopped charging, and I freaked out thinking I broke something. But after finally removing the extention my tablet would charge. I have not tried to use the extention cable since so I don't know if it works with jb.
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Bluemgt06 said:
I think the cable type might only matter after the ics.30 update when I was on the ics.26 I could use a standard extention cable, I had my device plugged in when I updated and my device stopped charging, and I freaked out thinking I broke something. But after finally removing the extention my tablet would charge. I have not tried to use the extention cable since so I don't know if it works with jb.
Asus Transformer Infinity running CleanRom 2.7.x
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The Asus charger switches its output to 15V from 5V when a USB3 plug is detected. If you need an extesion cable to charge the Transformer, you'll have to use USB3 extension cable. If you want to use this charger on other devices, be sure to use a USB2 cable to not to fry it with 15V.
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If you want to use this charger on other devices, be sure to use a USB2 cable to not to fry it with 15V.
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Thanks for the warning - I hope there are no cables with USB3 and micro-USB2 plugs though.
I went to europe recently and brought along my TF-700. I have come back and cannot find the part that plugs into the wall that came with my transformer. Plugging it into another ASUS adapter (from my N7, for example) doesn't seem to charge the dock, nor does plugging the cable into a USB port on my computer. So my question is this: will this thing only charge with the factory plug that came with the Transformer? I don't want to pay 40 bucks for a new one if I can avoid it.
This thread might shed some light -TF700 charger/cable requirements?
Long story short, you'll need something capable of pushing 15 Volts at 2 Amps to get charging while the device is on. Other variations of voltage might work while the device is off. Most computers won't push 2A through USB. I'm a little surprised the N7 adapter doesn't do you any good, I've used generic 120V AC to USB adapters to charge the TF700 in the past.
If you put the charger cable in the tablet and the usb end in the tf dock, it will charge the tablet!
Basically, Yes. Any other Transformer chargers will work, as will any 15V adapters from other sources. The N7 adapter gives off 5V. It may be 2A, but the voltage is too low.
The AC adapter gives 15 Volt. A USB port only gives 5v, as do all regular USB chargers. The TF700 starts detecting a charge at 12V (light/notificationbar). At 5V, it will charge about 1-3% an hour, which is less than/equal to the amount if drains whilst sleeping. Oh, and if you have any other USB cable attached between the TF700's charger cable and the charger, make sure it's a USB3.0. Anything else doesn't allow enough voltage to pass through.
The Infinity Manual: (People, READ THIS THING. Even if you didn't get it in the box, it's on the official website.)
Page 10:
- Ensure that your ASUS Transformer Pad is turned off before charging it via your computer's USB port.
- Charging through the USB port may take a longer time to complete.
- If your computer does not provide enough power for the ASUS Transformer Pad, use the wall outlet instead.
Page 83, not relevant in this case, but to others who try:
- The ASUS Transformer Pad cannot be charged through the USB dock when it is connected to the mobile dock.
usern ameisval idandnot said:
If you put the charger cable in the tablet and the usb end in the tf dock, it will charge the tablet!
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If you have the dock, you can just dock the tablet in the dock the way it's supposed to......
I really like my Transformer, but the lack of charging options is an issue.
I'm looking for a dual usb port wall charger (a similar car charger would be great) that will output the 15v needed by the Asus tablets. I don't mind bringing extra cords, but don't want to carry a bunch of wall warts with me when I travel and I have a lot of other USB devices. I'd prefer one without a permanent cord. Anyone found one that works?
The trickle charge options aren't effective since even overnight I only get 20% or so of charge.
What exactly are you trying to do...
The supplied charger charges both dock & Tablet where as the usb will only charge tablet..
Am I missing something?
7495 said:
I really like my Transformer, but the lack of charging options is an issue.
I'm looking for a dual usb port wall charger (a similar car charger would be great) that will output the 15v needed by the Asus tablets. I don't mind bringing extra cords, but don't want to carry a bunch of wall warts with me when I travel and I have a lot of other USB devices. I'd prefer one without a permanent cord. Anyone found one that works?
The trickle charge options aren't effective since even overnight I only get 20% or so of charge.
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You can safely use the Asus charger to charge all your other devices..
And if you have the tab with dock, you can hook another device to be charged up to the USB port of the dock. As long as the tab is docked and on, the dock USB will output 5V.
I believe He's asking if there are other USB chargers with more than one port that meet the TF700s power needs.
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I believe He's asking if there are other USB chargers with more than one port that meet the TF700s power needs.
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That's it exactly. Previously I was able to travel with just a single 4 port USB charger (something like the Skiva PowerFlow QuadFire) which would charge my iPad, phone, camera, and a travel router while only taking up a single wall outlet (which also means only a single plug converter for overseas). I'd love to do the same with the TF700, but would settle for a dual USB port charger (one to port charging the TF700 and one to charge my phone, simultaneously).
While I can charge my phone from the dock's USB port I don't always have the dock with me and it doesn't allow me to maximize untethered usage. Generally I use the dock as an extended battery (assuming I'm not using remote desktop or the card reader) - docking the tablet to charge it, then plugging the dock into the charger while I continue to use the undocked tablet. If the dock supplied power to the USB port without the tablet attached I'd be fine, but no such luck.
Anyway, like many, the goal with the transformer is to minimize the weight and "stuff" I have to carry (in my case a laptop). If I could reduce things further by dropping a dedicated charger for one that served many purposes at the same time it would be great. Something like the Anker Astro3 battery back up but smaller and without the battery would work well.
Maybe, try this one...you could charge your Transformer, because of the DC Output, your Notebook and of course other USB Devices...
I think he mightve wanted something like thiswww.buy.com/prod/apricorn-ausb-y-usb-power-adapter-y-cable-3-28ft/q/loc/101/202641110.html. It doesnt give any tech specs, however it states that it would increase the output power. So I would assume the volts would stay the same, but you might get more amps from usb. Unfortunately, it would just be a faster trickle charge.
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7495 said:
I really like my Transformer, but the lack of charging options is an issue.
I'm looking for a dual usb port wall charger (a similar car charger would be great) that will output the 15v needed by the Asus tablets. I don't mind bringing extra cords, but don't want to carry a bunch of wall warts with me when I travel and I have a lot of other USB devices. I'd prefer one without a permanent cord. Anyone found one that works?
The trickle charge options aren't effective since even overnight I only get 20% or so of charge.
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I got a couple of these from Meritline:
http://www.meritline.com/inland-nss13-wall-tap-surge-protectors---p-73426.aspx
I use my charger that came with the transformer in the main plug and the USB ports for my phone and Kindle. I got two from Meritline and brought a third at Target. You still need the Transformer charger but at least you get two more USB ports.
Hi everyone... I have an asus tf700t and I was wondering if I can charge it using the belkin mini surge protector with usb charger ( w**.belkin.com/us/p/P-BZ103050-TVL )? I just wanna make sure if it would be ok plugging the usb cord straight to the usb socket of this belkin usb socket. I carry a lot of gadgets with me whereever I go so I kinda feel that it would be bulky carryng a lot of chargers for my cellphone, laptop... etc. Would this be safe? I just experienced last week someone's charger got toasted using a public wall socket using the original charger. Thats why I thought of buying a surge protector as well. Thank you.
Depends on what you mean. Do you mean skip the Asus wall plug and use the usb ports on this protector? Then the answer is no. The usb ports on any device you use to charge the tablet needs to be usb 3.0 and supply the needed 15v of power. All of the usb plugs that are sold are made for 2-5v devices. If there is one that does supply the 15v then I have not seen it and many people using this forum would probably love to purchase it. You've stated one main reason to buy something like this, limiting the number of plugs to carry around, but it's also like $40 bucks to buy another plug from Asus.
That 2-5v is enough to charge cell phones, gps units, apple products, other tablets that don't use a proprietary power plug, etc. It may supply a small trickle of power similar to hooking up the device to a computer while the tablet is powered off. That would take hours to charge the device and not what you are looking for. I think one of the advantages Asus went for in using usb 3.0 and 15v is the speed of which the device can charge. It is pulling more power and able to delivery it to the battery faster. That is my guess but it is limiting our after market choices.
Now if you mean use that as added protection and have the Asus plug plugged into it, then yes it will work. If you are concerned about pulling too much power through it then don't have the device hooked up to it and use all of the other ports on the protector at the same time. That little device does seem neat. I lost an a/c adapter for my laptop when lightening struck really close to my hotel. Fried the power brick but luckily the laptop was not damaged. At work and at home I use a power strip/surge protector when plugging in the tablet to charge.
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Depends on what you mean. Do you mean skip the Asus wall plug and use the usb ports on this protector? Then the answer is no. The usb ports on any device you use to charge the tablet needs to be usb 3.0 and supply the needed 15v of power. All of the usb plugs that are sold are made for 2-5v devices. If there is one that does supply the 15v then I have not seen it and many people using this forum would probably love to purchase it. You've stated one main reason to buy something like this, limiting the number of plugs to carry around, but it's also like $40 bucks to buy another plug from Asus.
That 2-5v is enough to charge cell phones, gps units, apple products, other tablets that don't use a proprietary power plug, etc. It may supply a small trickle of power similar to hooking up the device to a computer while the tablet is powered off. That would take hours to charge the device and not what you are looking for. I think one of the advantages Asus went for in using usb 3.0 and 15v is the speed of which the device can charge. It is pulling more power and able to delivery it to the battery faster. That is my guess but it is limiting our after market choices.
Now if you mean use that as added protection and have the Asus plug plugged into it, then yes it will work. If you are concerned about pulling too much power through it then don't have the device hooked up to it and use all of the other ports on the protector at the same time. That little device does seem neat. I lost an a/c adapter for my laptop when lightening struck really close to my hotel. Fried the power brick but luckily the laptop was not damaged. At work and at home I use a power strip/surge protector when plugging in the tablet to charge.
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Ok tnx for the input. Just wanted to be sure if it would not harm the device if I use the usb wire without the charger adapter that came with asus but rather plug the usb cable directly to the belkin usb socket. Being stated that the tf700t is usb 3 and 15v is needed, will the belkin suffice to charge the device using its usb slot for charging without causing any harm? The spec says in belkin mini surge protector is 5V/500mA each usb port.
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Being stated that the tf700t is usb 3 and 15v is needed, will the belkin suffice to charge the device using its usb slot for charging without causing any harm? The spec says in belkin mini surge protector is 5V/500mA each usb port.
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It should work and do no harm, but it will be very very slow - maybe 5% per hour...
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Depends on what you mean. Do you mean skip the Asus wall plug and use the usb ports on this protector? Then the answer is no. The usb ports on any device you use to charge the tablet needs to be usb 3.0 and supply the needed 15v of power. All of the usb plugs that are sold are made for 2-5v devices. If there is one that does supply the 15v then I have not seen it and many people using this forum would probably love to purchase it. You've stated one main reason to buy something like this, limiting the number of plugs to carry around, but it's also like $40 bucks to buy another plug from Asus.
That 2-5v is enough to charge cell phones, gps units, apple products, other tablets that don't use a proprietary power plug, etc. It may supply a small trickle of power similar to hooking up the device to a computer while the tablet is powered off. That would take hours to charge the device and not what you are looking for. I think one of the advantages Asus went for in using usb 3.0 and 15v is the speed of which the device can charge. It is pulling more power and able to delivery it to the battery faster. That is my guess but it is limiting our after market choices.
Now if you mean use that as added protection and have the Asus plug plugged into it, then yes it will work. If you are concerned about pulling too much power through it then don't have the device hooked up to it and use all of the other ports on the protector at the same time. That little device does seem neat. I lost an a/c adapter for my laptop when lightening struck really close to my hotel. Fried the power brick but luckily the laptop was not damaged. At work and at home I use a power strip/surge protector when plugging in the tablet to charge.
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One correction please. Its not usb 3.0. Its just usb 2.0. Check for the specs on asus site.
king231 said:
One correction please. Its not usb 3.0. Its just usb 2.0. Check for the specs on asus site.
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It's a USB 3 plug, and the additional lines are somehow used by the Asus charger for detecting the tablet and switching the voltage.
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It's a USB 3 plug, and the additional lines are somehow used by the Asus charger for detecting the tablet and switching the voltage.
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Oh! I was talking about the tablet. If the tablet had USB 2.0 why would the plug be of USB 3.0.