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Exchange/Password
Now with Android 2.1 it now makes me use a password word. Is there a way to bypass this as it is annoying, or maybe use a pattern instead?
With 1.5 i didn't have to use a password, but with 2.1 now i do.
This works
just thought i would update with my latest info. So here is the scoop. You can disable the exchange password lock and have it survive reboot/and mail checks. To do this follow these steps:
[APP] LockPicker - disable Exchange lock screen [30-03-2010]
Hi all,
"j0bro"
Just whipped an app together that disables the Exchange lock screen as soon as the server has enforced its policy by using a background service and an observer on the system setting. This requires no polling, scripting, etc. and survives reboots/enforcements
If you want to use the pattern lock follow the next steps if not just skip the next steps., First set the lock pattern before you setup your exchange server, Then after you set your pattern lock setup your exchange and it will ask you to set your password after complete download Lockpicker in the market and install & run. Iit will bypass the Password lock and the pattern will now work.
Or
klaus27
Originally Posted by klaus27
Ok, my app is ready. I have sent it to tamburylar for testing.
Version 1.0 is ready for testing. Working with HTC Sense. Waiting for reply for Milestone support. HERE
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HTC Sense or Motorola Droid with Exchange and password policy? Get rid of it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6044673
networx2002 said:
Exchange/Password
Now with Android 2.1 it now makes me use a password word. Is there a way to bypass this as it is annoying, or maybe use a pattern instead?
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Not sure what you're trying to say here...
I'm using Exchange through my work, and the process is exactly the same as it has been on 1.5. Can you clarify your issue? Thanks!
networx2002 said:
Exchange/Password
Now with Android 2.1 it now makes me use a password word. Is there a way to bypass this as it is annoying, or maybe use a pattern instead?
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This has to do with the exchange active sync policies your IT dept has implemented. I believe you can remove that option from EAS on the exchange server.
As a workaround, you can use touchdown for your exchange needs as it doesnt lock down your phone but just your exchange email.
swornenemy said:
This has to do with the exchange active sync policies your IT dept has implemented. I believe you can remove that option from EAS on the exchange server.
As a workaround, you can use touchdown for your exchange needs as it doesnt lock down your phone but just your exchange email.
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Thanks,
With 1.5 i didnt have to use a password, but with 2.1 now i do.
Thanks
networx2002 said:
Thanks,
With 1.5 i didnt have to use a password, but with 2.1 now i do.
Thanks
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Yeah android 2.1 is more EAS compliant and can actually do remote wipes if you ever lose your phone which is nice. I did this on my hero and it wacked everything off and would only boot into recovery. Thank god for nandroid.
Be advised that if you enter your password wrong 10 times, (provided that you are still using the built in android exchange support) it will format your phone as well.
I've got it backup, Just hate to have to unlock it all the time.
Wish they would let you use a pattern
networx2002 said:
I've got it backup, Just hate to have to unlock it all the time.
Wish they would let you use a pattern
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I am in the same position as you. Delete your exchange account and use touchdown for your exchange mail. This way it doesnt require you to use a pin to use your phone except when accessing your exchange mail through touchdown
swornenemy said:
I am in the same position as you. Delete your exchange account and use touchdown for your exchange mail. This way it doesnt require you to use a pin to use your phone except when accessing your exchange mail through touchdown
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i have never been able to get touchdown to work for me
Just thought I'd join this thread, as I was shocked to find the exchange password on 2.1 too. Personally I love the idea of password and secure wipe, but the problem is the keypad is so difficult to type passwords on it takes me forever to login. I prefer just using the sliding password. And lets face it if someone wants into your password protected phone all they need is a USB cable, laptop, and SDK and they can bypass it.
To this end I've been playing with a way to bypass the password and I have been somewhat successful. I am VERY new to this stuff I've been basically teaching myself as I go, so if there are any experts around with an interest please feel free to take this knowledge and run with it.
** DISCLAIMER ** I've no idea what this will do to your phone or your email so make sure you backup, i've had no problems with any of these settings and I've always been able to just delete the exchange account and readd it when there was a problem. That being said.. you've been warned, Backup. Also bypassing your companies pointless security measures may be dangerous and cause for termination.
To get started you'll need the SDK and working ADB. It appears all the exchange info is stored in a database file that you can read/edit with sqlite3. Here is what I've found so far:
adb shell (probably need root, not sure)
cd /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases
sqlite3 settings.db
Optional sqlite3 settings to make reading easier:
.headers on
.mode column all
.width 2 40
There are two tables of interest here:
select * from secure;
select * from system;
The following update commands are what I used:
update secure set value=0 where name='DevicePasswordEnabled';
** This command will turn off the DevicePasswordEnabled and let you use a slide unlock pattern, but the password is still set from before.
update system set value=0 where name='lockscreen.lockexchange.enable';
** This command is the magic, I found out by watching logcat that when you unlock your phone it does an IF check on this variable and if it's set then it requires you to enter a password. Once this is set to 0 it skips the password and will ask for your slide unlock pattern instead. If you don't have an unlock pattern it will just jump to your home screen.
update secure set value=0 where name='MaxInactivityTimeDeviceLock';
** This one isn't too critical but I found it and thought I would share it. It basically removes the Exchange requirement for a idle timeout.. mine was set to 30 mins which was perfectly reasonable, but I removed it anyway.
Now once you run these update commands the changes are "done" no need to reboot or do anything special (don't even need to quit sqlite3) if you try to unlock your phone it might ask for a password the first time but enter it and lock the phone again. When you try to unlock it now the password has been removed. WOOOT!!
Now if you recall at the begining I mentioned that I've been "somewhat" successful, this fix appears to work perfectly and survives Mail client refreshes and reboots. BUT to my dismay every morning when I wake up and unlock my phone I'm presented with the same "You must enable security settings" msg from exchange. When you click OK it resets all the changes we made and we are back to square one and have to unlock it again.
I am guessing there is some type of refresh of the Exchange provisioning. I've not found how to disable this as of yet. I'm presently playing with the files located in /data/data/com.htc.android.mail/app_config it appears to store all the provisioning data in a file called eas_provision.prefs. I've just tried to change the two changes we made in this file in the hopes that perhaps it looks here to compare against the database settings and if it finds a difference it refresh, but I have my doubts.
Unfortunately I cannot test this until morning as I've found no way to replicate whatever causes the exchange security check.
My guess however is that the mail client itself is re-requesting the security settings.. if thats the case we'd have to either "decompile the mail cient" which I don't have the expertise to do. Another option might be to try using an older mail client (assuming this is where the check is).
I hope this helps some folks out there, please share comments and questions hopefully we can find a good solution. Remember my objective isn't to bypass the security completely but utilize the slide unlock which I feel is just as secure as the password (thought I am not certain if the wipe will happen with the slide unlock).
Good Luck
My employer is one of the paranoid companies that require the full password, so I'm also pretty interested in the answer. Changing values in the database show promise, but we'll need to see how this impacts what data is sent back to Exchange. For example, if I change the value to not requiring a lockscreen password, does Exchange know? If so, I get in trouble with Exchange admins, and they probably wipe my phone at their will. Ultimately, the device sends data back to Exchange, and the real solution is to find where the connection between Exchange and the lock screen is, and cut the cord.
For what it's worth, on the Pre this was handled in the lockscreen app and not anywhere near Exchange. The result was bypassing the lockscreen app altogether (return true; - elegant, right?), but that wouldn't meet the needs here of still having something. Once I get it reflashed with Damage's ROM tonight, I'll be playing with this.
And for the record - I'm also not trying to work around security policies enacted by my employer. This is purely for research and educational purposes.
say I wanted to go the other way, my Exchange server doesn't require a password but I want to use a pass... will following inverse instructions enable the policy?
networx2002 said:
Exchange/Password
Now with Android 2.1 it now makes me use a password word. Is there a way to bypass this as it is annoying, or maybe use a pattern instead?
With 1.5 i didn't have to use a password, but with 2.1 now i do.
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My company has the security enforced on our Exchange server. Keyguard Disabler (look it up in Market) will do this, but it also disables the slide-to-unlock. You can toggle it on and off as you need it.
-Daryel
Ill have to try it.
Installed Keyguard Disabler from the market and it works great. Well worth the buck 50. Buggy when set to auto start on boot so I just put in the password once at boot and run the app. Completely bypassed the lock enforced by my exchange server.
Hell, I just logged into my Exchange server and disabled the pin requirement.....
tamburylar said:
Now if you recall at the begining I mentioned that I've been "somewhat" successful, this fix appears to work perfectly and survives Mail client refreshes and reboots. BUT to my dismay every morning when I wake up and unlock my phone I'm presented with the same "You must enable security settings" msg from exchange. When you click OK it resets all the changes we made and we are back to square one and have to unlock it again.
I am guessing there is some type of refresh of the Exchange provisioning. I've not found how to disable this as of yet. I'm presently playing with the files located in /data/data/com.htc.android.mail/app_config it appears to store all the provisioning data in a file called eas_provision.prefs. I've just tried to change the two changes we made in this file in the hopes that perhaps it looks here to compare against the database settings and if it finds a difference it refresh, but I have my doubts.
Unfortunately I cannot test this until morning as I've found no way to replicate whatever causes the exchange security check.
My guess however is that the mail client itself is re-requesting the security settings.. if thats the case we'd have to either "decompile the mail cient" which I don't have the expertise to do. Another option might be to try using an older mail client (assuming this is where the check is).
I hope this helps some folks out there, please share comments and questions hopefully we can find a good solution. Remember my objective isn't to bypass the security completely but utilize the slide unlock which I feel is just as secure as the password (thought I am not certain if the wipe will happen with the slide unlock).
Good Luck
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I remember from the windows mobile days that most exchange servers automatically refresh the policies each night just after midnight. I used to have a program that ran every so many minutes that looked for that policy to be set and would unset it again. Maybe we can get a DEV here to write us a program that runs in the background on android that will chech and apply your changes above at some periodic amount of time. I would donate for it.
kranz68osu said:
I remember from the windows mobile days that most exchange servers automatically refresh the policies each night just after midnight. I used to have a program that ran every so many minutes that looked for that policy to be set and would unset it again. Maybe we can get a DEV here to write us a program that runs in the background on android that will chech and apply your changes above at some periodic amount of time. I would donate for it.
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That would be nice
magic answer to fixing this password stuff
i had the same problem with my work email server, i tried touchdown, didnt like. here's th eanswer people, download lockbot, the free version , from the market. use it, and if your like me, you will have no problem.
damn it feels good to finally help and not be helped by these forums. lol. hope i tworks. post back
ukcatsfan said:
i had the same problem with my work email server, i tried touchdown, didnt like. here's th eanswer people, download lockbot, the free version , from the market. use it, and if your like me, you will have no problem.
damn it feels good to finally help and not be helped by these forums. lol. hope i tworks. post back
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Downloading now
It works. Thanks
one happy hero user
Hi all,
Is there a way to enable some sort of password protection upon bootup? I ask as some apps I use autologin (like eBay) and if the tablet is stolen/lost then protection would be handy.
fab4272 said:
Hi all,
Is there a way to enable some sort of password protection upon bootup? I ask as some apps I use autologin (like eBay) and if the tablet is stolen/lost then protection would be handy.
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Settings > Location & Security > Set Up Screen Lock.
Three options there for security, Pattern, Pin, and Password.
Sorry, but I can't find these options on my tab. I am using tntlite 4.25
Bump thread
Tnt doesn't have the menu I think... either way it's not a very good protection...
I use protector as a secondary protection... still sucks for device so closely linked to our wallet
Sent from my VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0b5.1.1 using Tapatalk
fab4272 said:
Sorry, but I can't find these options on my tab. I am using tntlite 4.25
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Sorry, I didn't stop to think that TnT may not have those options..
Perhaps you should consider moving over to VEGAn 5.1?
It's my daily driver until something stable from CM7 or Honeycreams gets released.
Now the Mango Windows Phone Dev Tools beta is out, can we get an unlocked emulator image soon...
I've been playing around with the Mango Beta and stopped by XDA to see if an unlocked version is out as well.
I tried out the Bing Audio (Shazam type thingy) and it worked in the Emulator and picked up the song that was playing.
Bing Vision opened but was blank obviously. Not much more to see until we get an unlocked image.
TriAxisFL said:
I've been playing around with the Mango Beta and stopped by XDA to see if an unlocked version is out as well.
I tried out the Bing Audio (Shazam type thingy) and it worked in the Emulator and picked up the song that was playing.
Bing Vision opened but was blank obviously. Not much more to see until we get an unlocked image.
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Does IE9 display the web pages in the emulator?
IE9 in Emulator
Yes the emulator displays webpages in the Mango emulator.
Hey. To answer your question, I've tried to get it unlocked, but Microsoft has added some sort of weird security mechanism to the device-any recompiled image causes it to lock us out of the homescreen. Not sure what to think of it, but I'm sure we'll figure it out sooner or later.
(For reference, I was the one who unlocked the NoDo emulator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942656)
Thanks for your efforts Jaxbot, I can't wait for an unlocked emulator to see what else Mango may bring to the table!
From the previous leaks, we already know that there are a lot more features hiding in Mango that Microsoft has yet to announce. It comes to no suprise that Microsoft has implanted additional security to keep those features under wrap.
Hope we can get this unlocked soon. Would love to be able to check this emulator out in full
yeaah unlocked version would be really great =) But Version for HTC 7 Trophy would be much greater
I really don't get why they restrict it so much. It makes it impossible to test all those integration features etc...
But what sucks the most IMO is that you can't switch on "airplane mode". That way I always have to test this on the device, without the debugger
Jaxbot said:
Hey. To answer your question, I've tried to get it unlocked, but Microsoft has added some sort of weird security mechanism to the device-any recompiled image causes it to lock us out of the homescreen. Not sure what to think of it, but I'm sure we'll figure it out sooner or later.
(For reference, I was the one who unlocked the NoDo emulator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942656)
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The emulator itself has a security mechanism, or are there internal integrity checks baked inside the ROM?
jakelou said:
The emulator itself has a security mechanism, or are there internal integrity checks baked inside the ROM?
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I really don't know... but from what I can tell, the emulator loads the ROM just fine, but the Compositor screen doesn't want to load.
Jaxbot said:
I really don't know... but from what I can tell, the emulator loads the ROM just fine, but the Compositor screen doesn't want to load.
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What tools did you use in the NoDo ROM to unlock it? I suppose these tools are from WinMo 6.5?
It'll be interesting seeing Mango as is develops; like Windows 8.
Any Progress?
Partial Unlock... sort of
I managed to get access to a small set of features of the emulator with no hacking whatsoever.
I visited youtube.com from IE and tried to watch a video. It redirected me to the Youtube app in the marketplace. Naturally, I couldn't install it but I clicked on the Share button (I found later that you can also do this by sharing a page in IE9). The only option available was Messaging and so I enterd the Messaging App[/U]. I clicked the attach button and I entered Camera Roll, from which I could enter the Camera (and I saw that button that is supposedly used to choose the front/rear facing camera ). From the message app I pressed the + to add recipients and I got a list of the people in the phone's memory. I added the first person and pressed it in the recipients list and I chose open. I clicked on his address and entered the full Bing app and Local Scout. I called the person and chose to add another call and managed to acces the People Hub. In the people hub I was asked if I wanted to import contacts and was able to sign in with my email account and got access to the Email Hub. (Oddly Yahoo! appears only if added from the email hub and not from people hub). You can also access various settings for the apps.
I believe that by cleverly tapping on the UI it may be possible to enter other apps/hubs too.
WARNING: I got some weird behavior in Internet Explorer (see screenshot). It appears that after all these steps the opened and saved tab in IE gets bugged (happened 2 times). After exiting the emulator, I could't open it anymore using Tom's XAP installer , see attached error screenshot. I guess that somehow by entering the email accout, the emulator altered the save state (which could be quite interesting). I opened the emulator from Visual Studio and it got back to normal.
Any updates on whether an unlock is possible now that the SDK is final?
I'm actually trying to figure out if WP is the right upgrade after using webOS for years, so being able to use a Mango emulator fully for a few days would be pretty helpful...
2 Factor Authentication for Windows alpha
Hey folks,
this is my alpha preview of my 2Factor Authentication App for Android/Windows.
Disclaimer: By installing this app you will possibly harm your Windowssystem.Expect many bugs in the Phone app, but especially in the Windows app. Use it at your own risk. By downloading the app you agree to this.
This app could make Windows unusable*
*Well, better use Linux or Mac anyway.
What does this app do?
It adds a second screen after you entered your password, asking for a pin. This pin can be generated by your mobile phone and only used once.
The screen will open everytime you login, even after Standby/Hibernate/LockScreen.
Who should use it?
Paranoid people like me, especially these that own a laptop. If someone gets your windowspassword via keylogger or phishing, he still can't login.
In addition you could use the Windows auto-login (loads up all your autostarts) and would be still required to enter a code.
Who shouldn't use it?
People who are working with restricted rights (no Admin/root rights!), as these won't get past the login screen ;-) (might be fixed in final).
People who have multiple accounts on their computer, as every user is required to enter the same pin (will be fixed in final).
People who think this adds an extreme amount of security. Even though it does work in failsafe mode, there are some ways to get around it. If the "bad guy" has physical access to your computer, this is almost as (un-)safe as the Windowspassword.
Installation
Extract all files from the zip to a folder, e.g. C:\IdislikeWindows\. Then run installtion.exe, make sure you run the installer with administrator rights. You need an internet connection for that, so the progamm can generate a QR Code, that you then scan with your phone (apk attached below).
After entering your first generated key you're good to go.
Make sure that you never remove or rename that folder or any files in it!
Removal
Just double click on Uninstall.exe. If you used the graphical login before, select that option. Make sure you run the uninstaller with administrator rights.
What works doesn't work (yet)
- Impress with a fancy UI
- It won't work on Windows 9x (won't be supported)
- Users can still Alt+Tab / Win+R
- Users can still open Taskmanager (this is done for debugging)
- Synchronize if you have to phones
- Multiple Accounts
- Non-admin Accounts
- Phone App stores only one passphrase
... and much more I guess.
Tested on
- Windows XP
For safety reasons, the Windows part won't work after 2nd of July. But I will upload a new version until then
So go ahead, test this app and report many bugs I bet there are a lot. In addition I'm curious if it works on Win7 and Vista as well.
If something goes wrong, you can always start uninstall.exe with your taskmanager.
I'm looking forward for your feedback!
Thanks,
Marc
Update 22/06/2011:
- added Vista/Win7 Manifests
- Ping not done via RawSocket, so it is possible to install on Vista/Win7
- Remote Sessions should trigger 2FA as well.
Screenshots:
forceu said:
2 Factor Authentication for Windows alpha
Hey folks,
this is my alpha preview of my 2Factor Authentication App for Android/Windows.
.......
What does this app do?
It adds a second screen after you entered your password, asking for a pin. This pin can be generated by your mobile phone and only used once.
The screen will open everytime you login, even after Standby/Hibernate/LockScreen.
Who should use it?
Paranoid people like me, especially these that own a laptop. If someone gets your windowspassword via keylogger or phishing, he still can't login.
In addition you could use the Windows auto-login (loads up all your autostarts) and would be still required to enter a code.
......
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Man, you are a genius, I was really looking for something like this.
One question: does it work over RDP? I have a computer a work (encased in a rack in a renderfarm) and I work by log in with Remote Desktop Connection.
Cool... Will be keeping eye on this one!
daniel.mitran said:
Man, you are a genius, I was really looking for something like this.
One question: does it work over RDP? I have a computer a work (encased in a rack in a renderfarm) and I work by log in with Remote Desktop Connection.
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It probably won't work, but I will try it today. And I know there is a way to trigger it after someone started a remote session. I guess I will have it coded today or tomorrow
I uploaded a zip, replace the service.exe with the one in your folder and try it. As I posted above, it is not tested, so I don't know if its actually working ;-)
Feedback is always appreciated.
/edit: Sorry for double post
Dear all,
As we all know Windows RT/8's IE Metro browser has limited flash support based on a whitelist. However a lot of sites are not (yet) whitelisted and hence do not work as desired. So I did some digging in the whitelist mechanism and found a way to hack it.
Be sure to follow the following steps in respective order:
Open Desktop IE10 type ALT --> Tools --> Compatibility View settings. Now UNCHECK the last checkmark which says: "Download updated compatibility list from Microsoft". If you have done this, you will be able to locally change the whitelist without getting overridden.
WARNING: If this checkbox is checked IE will override your custom whitelist back to default on each rebout, so be sure to uncheck it..
The whitelist is named "iecompatdata.xml" and is located in this path (copy + paste in File Explorer or IE10)
Code:
%HOMEPATH%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\IECompatData\
(Alternatively open File Explorer and search in C:\ for "iecompatdata")
As suggested by danchar4, you can open and edit this file directly with Notepad by pressing WIN + R and type:
Code:
notepad "%HOMEPATH%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\IECompatData\iecompatdata.xml"
All whitelisted flash enabled websites are located in this file inbetween the following tags:
Code:
<Flash>
[...]
<domain>zumiez.com</domain>
<domain>zynga.com</domain>
</Flash>
To add a website to the whitelist, all you do is add your desired website inside these tags as follows:
Code:
<domain>YOURDESIREDDOMAIN.COM</domain>
Add as many websites as you desire...
Now we are almost done, one last task is to delete browsing histroy. Open IE10 Metro and click WIN+I (to open settings) --> Internet Options —> Delete browsing history
And you are all set and done. Flash is now enabled in IE10 Metro for the websites you have added to the whitelist!
Of course as with any hack, attempt only at your own risk. I am not responsible in case faulty behaviour occurs... That said, it should be fine
Kind regards,
Marvin
Trouble shooting + faq
TROUBLE SHOOTING + FAQ
I tried to do these steps but it does not work on www.website.com...
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If the flash content is embedded as an iframe, be sure to also add the domain of the source of the flash content. E.g. be sure to also add the website where the iframe links to to the whitelisted sources, this is what will eventually determine whether flash will be activated or not for this website.
Does this method work for www.website.com?
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If 'website.com' uses a standard flash plugin (e.g. if you can view the flash content on a normal desktop with just the standard adobe flash player plugin) it will work with this method. All this method does is activating the built in flash plugin for any website you have added to the whitelist.
I can not find the file "iecompatdata.xml"
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If you can't find this file be sure to enable "show hidden files", this folder will show up now. Alternatively you can find it by searching C:\ for the query "iecompatdata", the file will now show up.
I have added www.website.com to the whitelist, but it does not work!
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Be sure to delete your browsing history and refresh the page. If it does not work now, please be sure to check if you have added the website correctly (e.g. within <domain> tags).
After I have rebooted my computer, I have lost my custom whitelist!
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Make sure you have UNCHECKED the last checkmark in "Compatibility View settings" which says: "Download updated compatibility list from Microsoft". If you have done this, you will be able to locally change the whitelist without IE overriding it automatically.
Marvin_S said:
After more thorough testing, I found that a domain with a wildcard will not work i.e.
Code:
<domain>*.com</domain>
Does not allow flash to work on all .com sites... so this solution is out of the window, unless somebody knows if a wildcard in this list is supplied differently. I could not find anything in the documentation regarding the use of wildcards in this list, so most likely its not supported.
Alternatively, we could create some kind of "community" maintained whitelist, where anybody can just add any website and we will then point IE10 to download a whitelist from this community maintained source (instead of from Microsoft).
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Thanks so much for this work. I remember u from ur past work on wp7/7.5 on here. Thanks again. I almost called MS lite to return my surface because of this stupidity. Are they like apple or what? Trying to decide what u can do and what u can't is a v.stupid idea and whoever decided this at MS should be fired. If I wanted a prison garden, I'd buy an iPad.
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Now if I can find an easy way to block the ads ill be really happy. These ads are so invading. I didn't realize how much firefox with adblock was until I had to us IE for the last 3 days. quite annoying as it makes content loading so slow.
xirsteon said:
Thanks so much for this work. I remember u from ur past work on wp7/7.5 on here. Thanks again. I almost called MS lite to return my surface because of this stupidity. Are they like apple or what? Trying to decide what u can do and what u can't is a v.stupid idea and whoever decided this at MS should be fired. If I wanted a prison garden, I'd buy an iPad.
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Now if I can find an easy way to block the ads ill be really happy. These ads are so invading. I didn't realize how much firefox with adblock was until I had to us IE for the last 3 days. quite annoying as it makes content loading so slow.
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Your welcome. Glad it was helpful, yes I have been less active due to obligations at the univerisity. If we find a better solution we will let you know.
Some kind of adblocker is also integrated in Internet Explorer. Go to Manage add-ons and then to Tracking Protection. Now download a couple of adblock lists. It is not as good as chrome/ff, but it gets the job done for the most part!
And take some time to get used to your new machine, its a beautiful device and only yet people are starting to explore it and develop for it. It will for sure be a highly demanded device and will most likely reach a lot of developer/hacker interest.
xirsteon said:
Are they like apple or what? Trying to decide what u can do and what u can't is a v.stupid idea and whoever decided this at MS should be fired. If I wanted a prison garden, I'd buy an iPad
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The restriction against other browsers is equally disturbing.
See here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57431236-92/microsoft-bans-firefox-on-arm-based-windows-mozilla-says/
Even Google, who loves to push their own brand name through Chrome, saw the wisdom of allowing the customer freedom.
Lets not forget what, in large part, created Android's success - people jumped ship from Apple because they saw Android as an OS that allowed the consumer as much or as little customization as you want - you want it simple - they present a good out of box experience - you want something more, you can make changes.
We don't need two walled gardens.
Eh, that's just the restriction against third-party desktop apps. Mozilla even acknowledges that they could build a Windows Store app, and in fact they're apparently doing that (http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-57376421-264/coming-in-2012-firefox-for-windows-8s-metro/)... just for some reason they're doing it only for x86. Since Store apps, even for RT, are allowed to use native C/C++ and the compiler supports building them for ARM, I'm really not sure why they don't just recompile it for RT. Yeah, their JavaScript JIT would need to be changed, but they already have a JIT for ARM don't they? That's equally relevant for Firefox on RT in the Desktop or in "Metro" anyhow, so it would be a stupid thing to complain about. In any case, they could just fall back to interpreted JS.
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GoodDayToDie said:
Eh, that's just the restriction against third-party desktop apps. Mozilla even acknowledges that they could build a Windows Store app, and in fact they're apparently doing that (http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-57376421-264/coming-in-2012-firefox-for-windows-8s-metro/)... just for some reason they're doing it only for x86. Since Store apps, even for RT, are allowed to use native C/C++ and the compiler supports building them for ARM, I'm really not sure why they don't just recompile it for RT. Yeah, their JavaScript JIT would need to be changed, but they already have a JIT for ARM don't they? That's equally relevant for Firefox on RT in the Desktop or in "Metro" anyhow, so it would be a stupid thing to complain about. In any case, they could just fall back to interpreted JS.
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I am not sure if this adds anything to the discussion. I don't own a Windows RT machine, but I was in Office Depot the other day looking at their devices. They had a Samsung ATIV Smart PC on display. So, I messed around with if for a while. I had read that other browsers were forbidden on the RT. I thought, I wonder if Google Chrome will run? So I installed it off the internet and it worked.
My question is this: Is it just the MS RT the locks itself down? Why did the Samsung allow me to D/L and install Chrome?
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My question is this: Is it just the MS RT the locks itself down? Why did the Samsung allow me to D/L and install Chrome?
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the software restrictions should be the same, the other limitation is that you can't just download x86 software and install it on the RT because x86 doesn't run on ARM processors, are you absolutely certain you were on an ATIV tab running Windows RT or just a samsung tablet running Windows 8 with an x86 processor? If it was already possible to install chrome on Windows RT it'd be all over the internet.
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I am not sure if this adds anything to the discussion. I don't own a Windows RT machine, but I was in Office Depot the other day looking at their devices. They had a Samsung ATIV Smart PC on display. So, I messed around with if for a while. I had read that other browsers were forbidden on the RT. I thought, I wonder if Google Chrome will run? So I installed it off the internet and it worked.
My question is this: Is it just the MS RT the locks itself down? Why did the Samsung allow me to D/L and install Chrome?
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it's the samsung smart PC running on x86 hardware? (clovertrail or i5) if it is, then it's running full windows 8 and you can install any legacy apps (like chrome/ff) to your hearts content.
not to go off topic too much, but as to the earlier comment about freedom and choice being the reason android gained so much marketshare so fast. it has more to do with the combination of cheap handsets and carrier penetration, at a time when the iphone was locked to one network in the US and blackberry was slowly falling out of the consumer mindshare. yes, people like us who frequent xda might have moved to it because of the openness of the platform, but the mainstream market really doesn't care about that.
Guys, we are wandering too far off topic. I appreciate the discussion, but please let it be (somehow) related to ways of enabling flash on IE10 on Win RT and 8. The limitations of Windows RT are better to be discussed in appropriate threads
Did anybody do an experiment with this compatibility list? Or tried to deactivate it in its entire? A systems admin or IT pro might no some more details on this?
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Guys, we are wandering too far off topic. I appreciate the discussion, but please let it be (somehow) related to ways of enabling flash on IE10 on Win RT and 8. The limitations of Windows RT are better to be discussed in appropriate threads
Did anybody do an experiment with this compatibility list? Or tried to deactivate it in its entire? A systems admin or IT pro might no some more details on this?
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I added several websites and it worked fine. I'm a bit bummed as I think MS will find a way to over write the xml file in a masquerade windows update. As far as deactivation is concerned, I thought about making a backup of the xml file, and completely deleting the original to see if it works at all. What do u think?
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I added several websites and it worked fine. I'm a bit bummed as I think MS will find a way to over write the xml file in a masquerade windows update. As far as deactivation is concerned, I thought about making a backup of the xml file, and completely deleting the original to see if it works at all. What do u think?
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It might work, but I assume it will just deactivate compatibility view in its entire and hence disable flash for all sites. But its worth the try Let me know if it works!
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It might work, but I assume it will just deactivate compatibility view in its entire and hence disable flash for all sites. But its worth the try Let me know if it works!
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Well I created a local account to test this. Backup the file and deleted the original. All the blacklisted sites didn't work. So its not 100% possible yet but I bet there's a reg option or even a security policy (secpol.msc) that will turn this check off completely. Perhaps a bit of poke around will yield some insights. I looked in secpol and didn't find anything. So that leaves the registry up for grabs unless they're pulling that wp hidden / reg lock down thing.
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Well I created a local account to test this. Backup the file and deleted the original. All the blacklisted sites didn't work. So its not 100% possible yet but I bet there's a reg option or even a security policy (secpol.msc) that will turn this check off completely. Perhaps a bit of poke around will yield some insights. I looked in secpol and didn't find anything. So that leaves the registry up for grabs unless they're pulling that wp hidden / reg lock down thing.
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i bet its hidden, since if you want to add a developer website to test flash on you will have to create a reg key in a non existing folder in the ie registry settings called FLASH, so I guess thats the hidden folder. But I wonder if it is possible to somehow trace these folders. I personally dont know anything about the entire mechanism behind the comapibility view. I just discovered it by accident by figuring out where the whitelist was located. So far it seems that it does not take wildcards for domains and also shutting down the list in its entire does not seem to work. We can try to add a 'blank' domain but I doubt it will work.
Doesn't work for me
I am doing just as instructed. I do not know why it doesn't for me. I tried movie2k.to and myp2p, ibliz. None of them work
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It might work, but I assume it will just deactivate compatibility view in its entire and hence disable flash for all sites. But its worth the try Let me know if it works!
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More likely is that it will download the default list, or the current list. I don't really see compatibility view as an issue. What you are getting is the ability to use the major Flash-enabled sites without any of the ad sites, built-in as opposed to using third-party solutions.
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I am doing just as instructed. I do not know why it doesn't for me. I tried movie2k.to and myp2p, ibliz. None of them work
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Make sure you follow each step correctly. It has been tested and confirmed working by lots of people, on both Windows RT and Windows 8. Make sure you delete browsing history.
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Alternatively, we could create some kind of "community" maintained whitelist, where anybody can just add any website and we will then point IE10 to download a whitelist from this community maintained source (instead of from Microsoft).
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Here you can add sites: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/
And here is the list itself: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/iecompatviewlist.xml
Working with Nuduaa on a auto downloader script to autoupdate it every now and then on the surface.
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Here you can add sites: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/
And here is the list itself: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/iecompatviewlist.xml
Working with Nuduaa on a auto downloader script to autoupdate it every now and then on the surface.
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Awesome! Now I just have to wait for MS to ship me a damn Surface
If it is done (and there is some automation) I will add it to the first post!
Thank you for maintaining the list. This is great guys... good work!
Does anybody know if Windows RT allows the creation of custom extensions?
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I am following the steps yet I can't find the place in c drive as described on my surface.