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Hello.
I'm dealing with this PDA that's from a friend. He told me that it's very slow (it had WM5). I update with some homemade ROMs to see what happens and the result has been really annoying:
Operations are sluggish. Even the screen aligning process is horribly sluggish. Everything is slow as hell. The screen seems to miss some taps, too.
What's the problem? Somebody with this problem?
EDIT: I have seen that the touch screen is failing! The taps are hold when the stylus is not on the screen. Could it be a failing touch screen?
Well, later to have checked and tested intensively I've come to the conclusion that this lack of responsiveness is produced due to a hardware error. The touch screen is failing and the CPU processes a large a mount of taps without actually touching it, so it's too busy to process any other task properly.
I hope this help to anyone having the same problem.
Thank
Issue with touch screen ?
Concerning your sluggish PDA, is there a plastic film to protect the screen ?
Some plastic films may cause very weird behaviours as the screen could be fooled and act as if some point on it would be touched. It's all the more true when the film is in contact with both the screen and its frame, due to bad alignment when sticking it.
I had a similar issue with a Tomtom One (1st issue) and was about to send the device back to warranty... everything was solved when removing the protective film !
It's rather obvious with first generation films that were really thicker than new ones.
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if you cant fix it and are going to get rid of it i will take it off you. mines motherboard is scrambled, but the screen is fine.
thats if your getting rid of it.
So I was thinking about the issue of palm wrap. I think the implementation of it would be fairly simple. This would probably require root access, but I digress.
You would basically disregard any input happening within 1/8" - 1/4" on the border of the screen. Well not any inputs, but any prolonged inputs. Like the inputs that happen when your fingers hang off the edge of the screen, or the palm of your hand grazing the screen when you try to press something with your thumb.
There are very few programs that use the full screen, especially near the edges. If there are it would just be a matter of putting the anti-registration on hold when the app is in the foreground.
You could even create a setting for "fat" fingers and "slim" fingers. The fatter the finger, the further out you would disregard inputs from there.
The caveat being that you have to have it running on the system level. Now that google has finally added multi touch support on their apps, I wouldn't be surprised if you have access to input information on the system level.
(I know jack about making programs on adroid, but the rum is helping my mind think)
What do you guys think?
I haven't had palm wrap problems since I bought my seidio innocase. Adds a little beef to the unit as a whole (just a little, nothing major) but keeps my palm off the edges of the screen.
i like this idea simply because I do not want to buy any sort of case for the phone
Good idea my friend.
Just out of curiosity, does everyone here hold there phone in one hand and use the other to input anything? Because I can't see any palmwrap problem unless I do this.
I almost exclusively use my nexus with one hand doing inputs with my thumb if I'm not in landscape mode and I've never had any problems with palm wrap (I might be misunderstanding the concept completely though, so feel free to correct me).
I guess it depends on the length of your fingers the base of my thumb is what mostly affects one handed use for me.
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i like this idea simply because I do not want to buy any sort of case for the phone
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[off-topic] That is 'not' a good road to follow...get one of the soft cases or atleast the skins that you dont even notice it (personally I bought THIS and its amazing, has amazing 'grip' and it fits perfectly, unnoticeable).
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I dont seem to have this problem either. But it could be helpful to others with bigger hands maybe?
I have this problem sometimes and it is annoying as heck. I don't even think you need to go to all that trouble to fix it. I think just enabling multitouch on the dexktop might fix it. Don't know how difficult that would be though.
Hey is anyone elses GTab's touch sensitivity kind of off?
I noticed, compared to the iPad and Galaxy Tab, some times it takes me 2-4x of tryinng to press something to get it going.
Its almost like the screen cant pick it up sometimes. And sometimes when scrolling, it selects things, when im just Trying to scroll..
Also the top left HOME button on screen is always iffy, most times ill need 2-4 more times 2 press it to get it going.
I am using TNT 2.2.
Anyone else noticed this? i feel like its hardware.
Definetely not as responsive as my EVO. Maybe its the cheap screen. I wish it could be fixed via software, but fat chance. I guess not all capacitive screens are created equal.
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Definetely not as responsive as my EVO. Maybe its the cheap screen. I wish it could be fixed via software, but fat chance. I guess not all capacitive screens are created equal.
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You nailed it. IMO Samsung has been making the best color screens for years.
Have had absolutely no problems with touchpad responsiveness from my gTab... Just as sensitive and responsive as my Dinc.
Really does seem like this hardware is hit or miss... Some tabs have no issues some have many.
You guys are just plain spoiled. I've gone through Palm IIIx to now the gTablet, and it just simply has the most responsive touch screen that I've ever used, but I've had recent experience with the dreadful Augen GT and the slightly less dreadful White Pandigital Novel, both of which had worse touch screens than other devices that I've used.
One thing that I do, do for the gTab though is to clean the screen quite a bit. At a minimum I do so before every use as I find the fingerprint/body oils buildup to be annoying in fairly short order and it might have some impact on touch responsiveness. It's the worst fingerprint magnet that I've ever seen actually...
No issues here with single touch sensitivity, pretty good on that. Just as good as my Nexus One. Multitouch and pinch-to-zoom still a bit flaky. I am hopeful that will be resolved by software and/or driver improvements, as it was on the Nexus One.
The only issues I have are when the screen is too dirty or too clean. When I really scrub and clean the glass off entirely, at first it's a bit too "sticky" almost when my finger contacts it - maybe that's because it's winter here in the Northeast and my skin is dry. Once I've used it a bit and it gets some finger grease on it, it works perfectly. But if it gets grit or solid dirt on it, that can definitely interfere with the touch screen too, as with any capacitive screen.
I suspect the optimal thing would be a really good screen protector that's easy to clean and has that smooth finger contact feeling out of the box, like the iPad's glass does, for example, which I think has something to do with the oleophobic coating.
Typing this on my gtablet. The issue for me is the keyboard. There are parts of the screen that are unresoonsive making some letters not get tapped. The A key and l keys in particular. As a result I can't type smoothly or naturally because I will make several errors along the way. This does not happen onky iphone or my wires ipad.
it might bemy rrleason for sending it back as it takes too ongoing totyr correctly and I get tire d of all the corrections.
Well if your using the stock tnt keyboard, it sucks. We can learn from the ipad, with the size of the screen it has huge keys that cover a lot more of the screen then our stock tnt keyboard. I use smart keyboard pro with the key heights set to maximum and it works so much better, like 100x better. Even has voice to text.
Can people check their keyboard? I find that if I type most of the keys they type fine. However, the letter a key seems to only work when pressed offcenter which prevents. From typing properly as I must deliberately slow down and make sure it is correctly typed otherwise I get many errors. Could this be a defect in my screen?
Or is this a ui problem with tnt?
This could be a deal breaker as I misspelled every word if. Has h letter A
Letter A
I have the same problem with the letter A, and sometimes P. Otherwise touch is great
Figured why this tablet is driving me nuts. There are two dead zones on this tablet. Someone please do this test so I can figure out if this is just my tablet or all g tablets.
Download mulitouch vis test. Do rapid light touches in the area where the 'a' key is and delete key are. If I do this test in the middle of the screen it registers every single tap. But in those two areas I can sometimes tap 10 times in a row and not have a single tap register.
If this all g tablets then I think it's going back.
Also is there a keyboard with arrow keys? Trying to place the cursor can be a real pain.
Agreed bout the dead spots. The stock tap n tap western keyboard seems tominimize them due to the angles but if I try another keyboard I miss the a and the return button all the time
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Figured why this tablet is driving me nuts. There are two dead zones on this tablet. Someone please do this test so I can figure out if this is just my tablet or all g tablets.
Download mulitouch vis test. Do rapid light touches in the area where the 'a' key is and delete key are. If I do this test in the middle of the screen it registers every single tap. But in those two areas I can sometimes tap 10 times in a row and not have a single tap register.
If this all g tablets then I think it's going back.
Also is there a keyboard with arrow keys? Trying to place the cursor can be a real pain.
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Downloaded the app as well because I, too, am having the same screen non-responsiveness issue. Lo and behold the area where the "L" key is is a pretty dead spot. It would register about 40% of the quick taps I did in that area. Is this is a software issue? If so, I can live with it and hope our wonderful devs release a software build that resolves this otherwise, this thing may be going back because it's driving me up the wall!
I do see the occasional missed tap here and there, but no consistent dead areas that I've noticed (the A and L buttons on keyboard seem fine to me).
Multitouch sensitivity is wayyyyy mis-calibrated though - you have to use very heavy finger presses to get multitouch to register. This is some sort of driver or calibration issue that should be easily solved.
I found a binary called TSCalibration in the /system/bin directory on my VEGAn ROM G Tablet. Tried running it from terminal, but it seems to be looking for a calibration.ini file on the SDCard. I'd be willing to bet we could figure out how to fix some of the touchscreen issues with some work, because I suspect they are principally software related.
If your issues with the touchscreen are anything like this...exchange it...
My new one requires very little effort if any at all to get the screen to respond...
However, if you're talking about the once in a while miss of a touch...yes, I agree with cutterjohn....you're spoiled. Return the device asap, so I could pick it up from an outlet...please?
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If your issues with the touchscreen are anything like ...exchange it...
My new one requires very little effort if any at all to get the screen to respond...
However, if you're talking about the once in a while miss of a touch...yes, I agree with cutterjohn....you're spoiled. Return the device asap, so I could pick it up from an outlet...please?
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There is a big difference between these dead spots and the occasional miss. I have no problem with the occasional miss. I just have to adjust to how my finger touches the tablet to get more consistent hits.
There are areas of my tablet that consistently do not behave like the other areas. Does that sound normal to you? I can't have a tablet where anything in the 2 corners is extremely inconsistent. If I have the tablet oriented a certain way the soft-buttons get put into one of the bad corners and that is really frustrating.
I don't think it is how I am holding it because the problem follows the physical corners and it is not relative to my hand. So that rules that out. And I washed my hands and gave the tablet a good cleaning so dirt/grease/grime is not an issue either. It could have been too clean but why only two corners?
I have many weeks to go on my 30 days so I will keep screwing with it to see if I can come up with anything that is a workaround or explains why it is happening. It is insanely fast and it's modding future looks extremely bright with such talented people. If I get fed up enough, I'll exchange it and hopefully get one with a even touch response for the whole screen or simply return it and wait a couple more months for Honeycomb tablets.
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If your issues with the touchscreen are anything like this...exchange it...
My new one requires very little effort if any at all to get the screen to respond...
However, if you're talking about the once in a while miss of a touch...yes, I agree with cutterjohn....you're spoiled. Return the device asap, so I could pick it up from an outlet...please?
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Whoa. That video was pretty bad. While mine is not like that (thank God), I just tried hitting the app drawer key and it only registered after the 13th tap?!?! seriously wtf. While it isn't a "dead zone" per se, that's still pretty bad. There has to be a software fix to recify this issue with the right side of the screen. (my "L" and "delete" button are pretty bad as well).
THAT is a defective product...
I'll do another video to compare with my new one...WITH funky assed salty sweat all over the screen. Works flawlessly...
Is your model that is working well running stock firmware and keyboard?
mine is tent lite and the stock keyboard is ok. It if I try to use the alternative keyboards then I get consistent misses on key presses especially on the letter a.
I'm always tapping *constantly*, like 10-20 times on certain spots around the corners and edges of the screen, I'm about to return mine because of this.. Believe I'm still in the 2 weeks with office depot, will have to go snag the $350 one over at sears and hopefully it will come with a screen protector this time (this one I have didn't come with one, wonder if that has to do with the dead spots)..
Hi, guys, have you noticed that if the right side of the sliding mechanism is slightly nudged, the display lights up? Here is a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNQ1nK3cutY
When answering, please share what phone and keyboard layout do you have.
Same problem with me.. (link)
Personally, I don't like the capacitive buttons.. and I'm becoming increasingly annoyed with the search button!
Also, I don't know if anyone else has this problem..
If my keyboard is slightly moved/nudged, it wakes the phone up. See video..
http://www.twitvid.com/CHP21
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Oh, that's a relief, I thought I was the only one
Well, that's not a big problem, even if the phone is waked up, it's still locked and goes to sleep again in 3-4 seconds.
This is weird!
Mine's display light up after I slide it past the bottom keyboard row, it can stay locked while I can clearly see the spacebar!
How can the same device act differently like that? mine is a 7 Pro (not an Arrive), and I can see from your video that yours is a 7 Pro too.
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This is weird!
Mine's display light up after I slide it past the bottom keyboard row, it can stay locked while I can clearly see the spacebar!
How can the same device act differently like that? mine is a 7 Pro (not an Arrive), and I can see from your video that yours is a 7 Pro too.
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If I push the sliding mechanism evenly, with two fingers, mine also lights up after the first row of the keyboard, just like yours. But try to push only the right side...
The screen is triggered based on a magnet I believe. So the amount that the screen must be moved to trigger the screen to come on isn't a precise thing.
Doesn't happen on my Arrive.
Hey, folks, do your phones light up when you divide the two halves?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc6zNYu-La8
Please write what phone do you have - HTC Arrive, HTC 7 Pro, QWERTY or QWERTZ kejboard.
Mine doesn't light up if I nudge the right or left side. It also does not light up If split it in half like the above video.
It only lights up when I slide it over the first row of keys.
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The screen is triggered based on a magnet I believe. So the amount that the screen must be moved to trigger the screen to come on isn't a precise thing.
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This is correct.
I don't have the manual for that phone. (it's similar to the mechanism shown for the TyTn however www.mikechannon.net or see here to get the general idea http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2677085&postcount=3 ) HTC tightened their document security and it's almost impossible to get Service Manuals current devices these days.
However, as tiny17 commented, in HTC phones, the sliding keyboard activates "wake-up" by means of a small magnet which is glued onto the inside of the casing. As this moves past the magnet operated switch it wakes up the phone. You will see similar behaviour if you bring a magnet near certain parts of the case and in fact this is a way to locate where the magnet switch is located.
Also, using phone cases that have magnet clasps on them can also operate the switch and wake up the phone when sliding it in and out of the case/pouch.
So technically this is not a fault, but it can be annoying.
Mike
Ever since upgrading to Android 11.0, immediate issue has been the sensitivity of the touch screen.
Scrolling up and down will randomly select a link or an item on the page i was scrolling. This seems really evident when you open Google when you scroll all the way to the left. Start scrolling up and down and see if you get errant presses. Seems to be happening a lot on the right hand side of the display where the touches get inaccurate.
I'll be really frank here.... Google sucks at testing and pushing stable updates...
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Ever since upgrading to Android 11.0, immediate issue has been the sensitivity of the touch screen.
Scrolling up and down will randomly select a link or an item on the page i was scrolling. This seems really evident when you open Google when you scroll all the way to the left. Start scrolling up and down and see if you get errant presses. Seems to be happening a lot on the right hand side of the display where the touches get inaccurate.
I'll be really frank here.... Google sucks at testing and pushing stable updates...
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I am still on the 11 beta. When I switched from android 10 to 11 beta I had this issue. Taking off my screen protector solved this issue although I don't want it to be a permanent solution
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Ever since upgrading to Android 11.0, immediate issue has been the sensitivity of the touch screen.
Scrolling up and down will randomly select a link or an item on the page i was scrolling. This seems really evident when you open Google when you scroll all the way to the left. Start scrolling up and down and see if you get errant presses. Seems to be happening a lot on the right hand side of the display where the touches get inaccurate.
I'll be really frank here.... Google sucks at testing and pushing stable updates...
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Got my 11 update this afternoon and have been playing with the phone since. Updated all apps that were available to update, then shut down the phone and restarted. Haven't noticed what you are talking about at all. Just went into Google, as you mentioned, and haven't seen any issues. Will keep an eye on it; but my first thought is if there is an installed app causing issues....
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Start scrolling up and down and see if you get errant presses. Seems to be happening a lot on the right hand side of the display where the touches get inaccurate.
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I tried the beta last week and this happened to me. I have to go back to 10 and reinstall everything. I might wait a week or so for others to respond before I trust 11 again.
I found out that they made changes to pixel 4 related to touch sensitivity (making it more aggressive). Wondering if that is what's affecting it.
Just upgraded my 4a to 11 today and I'm having the same issue. Also noticed it on the launcher...long press on an app to drag it just immediately opens the app. Just trying to type this post is a struggle. Touch sensitivity and accuracy is all messed up.
Clearly Google has an issue on their hands. Guess will need to escalate this to tech journalists so that they do something about it
Not having this issue. On A10 I felt touch and especially navigation swipes were a tad insensitive relative to other devices. On several occasions I contemplated regressing to 3-button navigation (ugh). A11 fixed that making navigation feel natural again. No problem with taps - yet.
Right/left swipe sensitivity can be controlled in settings on A11. Left mine at default.
Stock 4a w/Nova Prime. Spigen armor case (slightly raised edges). No screen protector.
This issue is getting reported a bunch on www.reddit.com/r/Pixel4a. I personally had the issue pop up a few weeks ago after I installed 11 beta 3. Downgrading back to 10 fixed it.
Some people have said the issue goes away if you remove your screen protector but obviously that isn't the real solution if your phone was working fine prior to the update.
I just posted this question lol i wish i seen your post before. Im dealing w same issue, kind of feel better at least knowing im not the only one dealing with it lol
I think all the touch problems are related to Google Assistant, this app is just too busy messing things up. I use Nova, turned the Assistant off but it was still showing up with a prompt/notification on the bottom telling me to turn it on. So I have disabled the entire Google app and I don't see the Assistant anymore, all is good. Google Play, Pay, Maps etc..., the things I need they all stay intact. And btw, I don't use screen protector.
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I just posted this question lol i wish i seen your post before. Im dealing w same issue, kind of feel better at least knowing im not the only one dealing with it lol
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The only issue I've found is that they seemed to have changed the swipe logic on the homescreen launcher, it acts like it's looking for a slightly different gesture. My muscle memory for quickly accessing overview had to be tweaked slightly, but I've gotten used to it.
I'm not noticing other issues with screen sensitivity. I have an OtterBox Commuter case and the "OMOTON" glass screen protector on my 4a. I adjusted the back swipe sensitivity because the lip of my case is fairly large but that's it.
I'm sorry to hear there have been issues with this
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Ever since upgrading to Android 11.0, immediate issue has been the sensitivity of the touch screen.
Scrolling up and down will randomly select a link or an item on the page i was scrolling. This seems really evident when you open Google when you scroll all the way to the left. Start scrolling up and down and see if you get errant presses. Seems to be happening a lot on the right hand side of the display where the touches get inaccurate.
I'll be really frank here.... Google sucks at testing and pushing stable updates...
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I'm assuming you're using a screen protector?
Try the new touch sensitivity toggle
It helped my touch issues to lower back sensitivity. Using LK brand tempered glass
This issue has been fixed. I think what's troubling is that it was fixed without needing an update... So what dynamic changes are being made within the OS without the need for an OTA update?
edit: nvm its back again. anyone else having touch issues again?
Can confirm. I'm having touch issues every now & then after update to 11.
Reddit has a thread with over 73 responses confirming the issue as well. Still waiting on Google for a fix.
I have same problem and it's so annoying, I also have a screen burn in almost 1cm by 1cmnafter one day of use and volume going up and down on it's own ???
Juansegovia20 said:
I have same problem and it's so annoying, I also have a screen burn in almost 1cm by 1cmnafter one day of use and volume going up and down on it's own ???
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Still no issues here. I am not downplaying those that have this (not at all!) but wonder if an app conflict is part of the cocktail. I do not use Google Assistant which some have implicated. Also have very few apps authorized for screen reading (albeit probably not a factor)
Edit: read on; screen protectors and heat appear to be contributing factors.
Sad to report this issue is NOT yet fixed. It appears to only happen when the phone heats up WITH a screen protector. Just played a game of Risk for about an hour and the problem came back. Just removed my Supershieldz screen protector and the problem is gone. When the phone cools down I'll add the screen protector back and the issue most likely won't come back until the phone heats up again. This never happened on Android 10, so something must have changed with the update. Hopefully it's just a simple software fix and not a hardware issue.