Hi people!
As the title says. Why am I getting low scores and performance these days using Jelly Beans (both 4.1 and 4.2). The only cure is Trinity kernel. Let's dig in deeper. The Galaxy Nexus has a sgx540 aswell. It scores around 2600 depends on the device's mood. Other phones with the same gpu too. Without Trinity I score around 1600. When I install Trinity kernel "the problem" disappears. So what did Morfic do and could the other developers do it too? Or is it just me?Do you guys experience it too? I'm running Helly Bean Jan 5th version with it's pre installed kernel. Waiting for reply!
Cheers, Zunex
Galaxy nexus has a higher gpu clock.
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Räph96 said:
Galaxy nexus has a higher gpu clock.
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I do know that question was different. What does trinity has what others don't. I achieved a score of 2300 in Antutu myself. So there is got to be something.
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I do know that question was different. What does trinity has what others don't. I achieved a score of 2300 in Antutu myself. So there is got to be something.
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oc bus speed also gpu too as far as i good remember. not only oc cpu thats the difference.
http://www.derkernel.com/jb-crespo.php
This is the Trinity Nexus S/4G kernel for Jelly Bean with 1440MHz CPU And 240MHz GPU clock for ANY Rom (Uses rom's ramdisk).. Tuned colors. optimizations, leaner build.
Sep 25 2012 01:05
mypat said:
oc bus speed also gpu too as far as i good remember. not only oc cpu thats the difference.
http://www.derkernel.com/jb-crespo.php
This is the Trinity Nexus S/4G kernel for Jelly Bean with 1440MHz CPU And 240MHz GPU clock for ANY Rom (Uses rom's ramdisk).. Tuned colors. optimizations, leaner build.
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That's what I was thinking of too but Bedalus has gpu oc'd kernel too. And +1000 pts with +40mhz OC? There's gotta be something else.But thanks for the answer.
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If I have CM7 #54, do I need a special kernel or not?
SetCPU is not detecting the frequencies for me
I am using CPUMaster but I have the free version only
What is the best software to overclock automatically?
I also want profiles (Battery temp, battery %, screen off...)
In Quadrant I got 3000 points with 1.5Ghz
Now I only need to find a way to overclock it and have all the profiles and boot overclock work right out of the box
Thanks a lot
Sooooo you over clocked to it to 1.5, but yet you still need to find a way to do it?? Read..... all the answers are in this very section....
Oh by the way wrong section to post.
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rafarataneneces said:
If I have CM7 #54, do I need a special kernel or not?
SetCPU is not detecting the frequencies for me
I am using CPUMaster but I have the free version only
What is the best software to overclock automatically?
I also want profiles (Battery temp, battery %, screen off...)
In Quadrant I got 3000 points with 1.5Ghz
Now I only need to find a way to overclock it and have all the profiles and boot overclock work right out of the box
Thanks a lot
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ok first set cpu will not be able to oc for you. use pimp my cpu you should be able to find it if you do a search. second if you want to oc use faux's kernel for that.
rafarataneneces said:
Quadrant I got 3000 points with 1.5Ghz
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4500 with faux rom 1.2.4 and 0.2.2 kernel.
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I used SetCPU before on my OptimusT, and it was actually working pretty good, BUT NOT ON LGE STAR. For now, the best overlocking app for LGE STAR is PimpMyCPU WITH CUSTOMIZED KERNEL.
With FR and Faux's kernel, you can easily get 4000+ on Quadrant.
With GB and its own kernel, I think we just get like 3000+
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Oh 1 more thing, T-mobile doesn't release the GB update for LGE Star yet. The CM project is built based on the GB source code only...
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Use pimp my cpu, setcpu doesn't let you overclock. It only shows your cpu speed but nothing else.
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rafarataneneces said:
In Quadrant I got 3000 points with 1.5Ghz
Now I only need to find a way to overclock it and have all the profiles and boot overclock work right out of the box
Thanks a lot
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I got 4094 in quadrant OCed to 1.5Ghz on Ultimate, very impressive considering its a froyo rom nonetheless
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rafarataneneces said:
If I have CM7 #54, do I need a special kernel or not?
SetCPU is not detecting the frequencies for me
I am using CPUMaster but I have the free version only
What is the best software to overclock automatically?
I also want profiles (Battery temp, battery %, screen off...)
In Quadrant I got 3000 points with 1.5Ghz
Now I only need to find a way to overclock it and have all the profiles and boot overclock work right out of the box
Thanks a lot
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I thoroughly tested OC on CM with different kernels. I got the best results with the Trinity kernel. My highest recorded Quadrant score was 4920 and I averaged 4690 over 10 trials with that configuration.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078049&highlight=trinity
Hey guys
I just installed Codename Android 1.5.5 + Matr1x Kernel 18.0 after using CM9 nightly 0304 + Matr1x Kernel 17.5 for a while. I used to run CNA 1.4 but stopped using that as it got very slow after a few hours.
The Quadrant score I was getting on CM9+Matr1x 17.5 was around 2000 with no overclock. Now that I am running CNA 1.5.5 + Matr1x 18.0 i'm only getting a score around 1100...
The ROM feels fine and snappy, but this low score worries me. Is this normal or does this maybe mean there's a problem somewhere?
Thanks!
I'm on same rom same kernel and overclocked to 1430 and only getting 1400s
Ok, so I guess this is normal...
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I am running 1.5.5, with Air Kernel 3.6, scary governor and overclocked to 1400, I scored around 2600 with this set up on Quadrant.
I tested the rom after flashing it and it scored it at 1100.
Oh I applied the BM tweaks from CNA utility as well
I am waiting to see how the ram holds up, 1.40 would drain after a few hours, as how the battery lasts, so far it is looking good on both of those items.
I haven't tried to many roms, I liked this one as son as I loaded it, loads all my apps from the market, seems very stable even with it overclocked.
I have read that Gingerbread is really stable and fast but I don't want to loose my native music.flac support on this rom. I have read that 4.04 and 4.05 will have better battery, I am hoping so, as I don't want to go backward to Gingerbread unless I have to.
I applied brain masters tweaks and went from around 1100 to 1800 with no overclock and the rom feels much better now. Now I'll just have to see about battery life but I'm a happy man at the moment
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Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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You are absolutely right. I use the benchmark simply to measure how the rom is before I get a good feel for it. In this case it feels much better after the tweaks.
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ljordan2 said:
Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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yep .. +1 to that
Clean install using BM rom wipe + Air 3.6 + BM tweaks from CNA1.4 + Deep idle patch for 1.5.5
Deadline + ondemand 100 - 800 with Up Threshold @ 95%.
After 16hrs I've got 68% battery left
Q score between 2000 & 2100 when set to 1000MHz
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ljordan2 said:
Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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I completely agree to this.. I rely on the feel of the ROM when I use them..
ljordan2 said:
Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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FULL ACK...!
I'm still using 1.4.0 with Air Kernel 3.6 and the supercharger script. I have insanely good performance though battery life has taken a hit over the last few days.
I would like to install BM's tweaks though I'm not sure which version goes with this particular ROM.
If you want higher Quadrant scores try the Trinity T144 kernels. But Quadrant Standard says nothing about the performance of the ROM.. it's just a score.
Yeah, quadrant score isn't everything. The ROM feels fine now but I'm getting the occational freeze requiring a battery pull. I've been running with no overclock but at the moment am running 100/1300 Lulzactive with no issues so far.
Battery life is not good though. I'm at about 50% after 7 hours on battery with light usage
Hi!
I would like to know what governor are you using and why.
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I was a fan of the good ol' "ondemand" governor for a while but a few days back I switched to "lagfree" - I heard of its good reputation somewhere inside the general sub-forum - and I ain't going back lol
p.s., You might wanna add a poll to this thread, it'll help, believe me
Hehehe I'm not sure on the list of governor available that's why I did not put an actual poll here.
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My i9023 (Stock 4.0.4 and Matr1x v19 kernel) is currently running with the Lulzactive governor.
I've only had the last week to try a non-stock kernel (Matr1x v18.5), but so far Lulzactive sems to fit my needs well. It's clocked to 100/1200 MHz and everything feels very smooth and it doesn't drain the battery (that's the job of the S-LCD )
I've had good use of this thread which explains the different governors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
@Lar5 thanks for the link. I've been looking for something like this for quite sometime.
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Lion heart has been great
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
GummyNex (9.0)
Air Kernel (3.45)
OC 800/100 (Lionheart)
Live OC (100 -Noop)
v6 Supercharged
My setup in the signature
Stock 4.0.4
Matr1x Kernel v19
1000/100
lulzactive
sdhanjal15 said:
My setup in the signature
Stock 4.0.4
Matr1x Kernel v19
1000/100
lulzactive
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Aren't you having lag with 1000 frequency and running ics?
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None at all
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frian79 said:
Aren't you having lag with 1000 frequency and running ics?
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1000 Freq lags in ICS ?
Ondemand. I have tried several others (like lulzactive, smartassv2 and wheatley) but keep coming back to ondemand for the best mix of smoothness and battery life while still being stable. Wheatley gave me the best battery life a few Matr1x versions back but felt slow every now and then. Ondemand is good enough and stays stable.
Mmmhhh... maybe recent ROMS have already optimized it to run in that low freq. Before when early ics roms came out I have to over clock my cpu and always set it to performance governor so that it will run smooth.
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Lion heart has been great
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I decided to give it a whirl myself. I toned down the CPU speed to 800 and the phone is still flying. I've been using it all day and no complaints. I guess now it's a toss up between lionheart and ol' reliable ondemand.
Ondemand and kickassv2 @ 1.2 love um both
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I decided to give it a whirl myself. I toned down the CPU speed to 800 and the phone is still flying. I've been using it all day and no complaints. I guess now it's a toss up between lionheart and ol' reliable ondemand.
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Here is hopefully your deal breaker... I raised the min and Max settings to 1000/200 on Lionheart. Not only am I noticing speed improvements, but the battery got better then what it was .
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
GummyNex (9.0)
Air Kernel (3.45)
OC 1000/200 (Lionheart)
Live OC (100 -Noop)
v6 Supercharged
Smartass v2
Keep juice when screen off
No lag when screen on
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[ROM] BrainMasters CM9 BLK edition 2.0
[KRNL] AIR Kernel 4.0
[GOV] Lazy @ 200min - 1000max
For me this setup gives very good battery life and does not stutter music through Bluetooth while the screen is off.
aenima777 said:
[ROM] BrainMasters CM9 BLK edition 2.0
[KRNL] AIR Kernel 4.0
[GOV] Lazy @ 200min - 1000max
For me this setup gives very good battery life and does not stutter music through Bluetooth while the screen is off.
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Wow that's great maybe I'll try that ROM. It is usually my problem when it comes to low freq ans qeong governor my music stutters when the screen off. Thabkd
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Is it possible to overclock the Adreno 225 GPU, I play mostly N64oid and FPSE on my phone. Its for FPSE mostly because of the Open GL plugin might see some increase by overclocking the GPU. Also dose any one know what its running at currently, i'm not really sure if overclocking the CPU also overclocks the GPU if they are synchronized or something.
Any other emulator users out there that love using their phone for game play?
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Is it possible to overclock the Adreno 225 GPU, I play mostly N64oid and FPSE on my phone. Its for FPSE mostly because of the Open GL plugin might see some increase by overclocking the GPU. Also dose any one know what its running at currently, i'm not really sure if overclocking the CPU also overclocks the GPU if they are synchronized or something.
Any other emulator users out there that love using their phone for game play?
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Here is an article to do it on your PC I was just thinking about this the other day http://m.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-graphics-card,1916.html
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Here is an article to do it on your PC I was just thinking about this the other day http://m.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-graphics-card,1916.html
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Yea.....I was just wondering if we had a kernel that had it OCed yet....that is what I meant by possible...with some chips the CPU and GPU need to be scaled the same to work correctly. So if the stock CPU speed is set so is the STOCK GPU speed......I think...do we even have a kernel OCing the CPU for the VGSIII?
Not sure if your trolling or what but Desktop GPU and Phone GPU are two different beasts. Not many people really even care to check what GPU is on a phone and how is stacks up against other phone GPUs. For example the Mali 400 in the Galaxy S II in the US makes the Galaxy S III GPU look like an old Voodoo card next to a GTX 480.....just saying we got ripped on the GPU hardware upgrade for the US iteration of the Galaxy S series. Its actually a downgrade and it blows now that I don't have sprint(because their network is trash).
Currently Verizon does not have a GPU in a phone with 4G that can match the Mali 400. I don't want to wait until the Galaxy Note 2 comes to Verizon...seeing as it has the same hardware as the international version of the Galaxy S III just with a bigger screen. However if a OCed GPU does not get me the performance I am looking for then I will be jumping to the GN2 as soon as it comes out.
The OP of the kernel thread you decide to look at should say whether the GPU is OC'd or not. For example, both TW kernels Trinity and Leankernel have the GPU OC'd to 480 mhz. If you're asking can we users manually OC the GPU, then I can't help you with that.
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The OP of the kernel thread you decide to look at should say whether the GPU is OC'd or not. For example, both TW kernels Trinity and Leankernel have the GPU OC'd to 480 mhz. If you're asking can we users manually OC the GPU, then I can't help you with that.
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Thanks I will have to check those out!
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Thanks I will have to check those out!
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No problem, Leankernel is only available on Rootzwiki whereas Trinity is available on both sites.
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and there is also Cleankernal
Anyone tried this? I've come across a video for the galaxy s ii overclocking the same gpu. After looking into, it seems that this gpu has been used in many different platforms at different clock speeds. i dont have the "know how" to overclock a gpu, but would it be as simple as changing the system values?
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Anyone tried this? I've come across a video for the galaxy s ii overclocking the same gpu. After looking into, it seems that this gpu has been used in many different platforms at different clock speeds. i dont have the "know how" to overclock a gpu, but would it be as simple as changing the system values?
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So far the only way to overclock the GPU is by overclocking the FSB, which will also overclock the CPU. Some kernels have it cooked in (Trinity for example), some offer a way to do it (Live OC enabled kernels) and some have an hybrid (Marmite has GPU overclock for 1.1GHz but not for 1.2GHz).
I'll check those out
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So far the only way to overclock the GPU is by overclocking the FSB, which will also overclock the CPU. Some kernels have it cooked in (Trinity for example), some offer a way to do it (Live OC enabled kernels) and some have an hybrid (Marmite has GPU overclock for 1.1GHz but not for 1.2GHz).
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what is the FSB??
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what is the FSB??
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Front side bus. The frequency of the CPU is determined by a multiplier X FSB.
CPU runs at 1000MHz. FSB is at 200MHz. GPU is on a 1:1 ratio with the FSB, thus runs at 200MHz
Every megahertz added to the FSB will make the CPU run 5MHz faster.
210MHz FSB x 5 = 1050MHz and 210MHz GPU
Marmite kernel has a 1096MHz step for CPU that comes with a GPU oc @ 220mhz
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Does this apply to all SOCs or just the one n the nexus s?
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Marmite is only for the nexus s, and I believe every soc is its own unique methods and limits of oc
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