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Ok, so I decided to be brave, well kinda. I have to send my mt4g back for a warranty replacement so I decided to see how scratch resistant the screen is. I first took the edge of the metal micro usb charging wire and tried scratching the screen with that, didn't work. I then went and took my keys held one key and started scratching it against the screen (like you would sharpen a knife) nothing no scratches. Tried with harder pressure... still nothing.. then took the whole set of keys and swirled them around the screen to simulate them being in your pocket bumping around.. I put a pretty good amount of pressure.. and still nothing! It did scratch the chrome bezel a little around the screen it did not make a single mark on the screen. For not being gorilla glass the glass on the mt4g is pretty tough. I was impressed I couldn't scratch the screen... I was just trying to see how well it would hold up in a everyday situation like having it in your pocket with your keys. I just tried again hacking at the screen with a key, harder than any other time before and still not a damn mark!
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I thought it was gorilla glass
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I thought it was gorilla glass
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From what I was reading it's not gorilla glass but it is a high tempered glass. I really tried to scratch this thing with a key though. I continued trying even after this post. Still haven't been able to make a mark on the screen with a key.. and I'm not being delicate by no means.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829556
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Glass is pretty tough. And metals such as keys won't scratch it as its much softer than glass.
I don't remember much from geology class but there's a few rocks that can actually scratch glass.
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graffixnyc thanks for providing us with actual BRAVE data lol guess we can rest easy now. I always knew it was using high tempered glass and was scratch resistant just keep in mind it doesn't mean its scratch proof

Yeah, I wouldn't take it and slide it across the sidewalk on its face but its good to know that its pretty tough and that having your keys in your pocket or something like that wont scratch your screen. I honestly don't see a point in a screen protector for this phone after this. I mean anything that's tough enough to scratch the screen would probably rip through a screen protector.
I tried really hard to scratch it with the keys and nothing, even after this I kept trying and no dice. I'm pretty sure sand or something like that could probably scratch up the screen but its good to know in average situations your screen is safe.
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this is sorta on topic...while the screen may not scratch very easy...the damn thing shatters with the smallest drop it would seem
was just at my local tmobile store and while i was there i was playing with a g2 while waiting for my paper work and next to it was a guy looking at a mytouch 4g...well we started talking about how good the phone was...turns out he had just bought one and was waiting for the girl to come from the back and give it to him
so myself and the other dude walk to the counter together talking about the phone...i grab my paper work and as i do the girl goes to hand the customer the phone and she drops it on the counter and the screen just shattered from top right edge inwards...was pretty gruesome...it was a fall of maybe a foot to a foot and a half
im pretty sure that phone had to have a weak spot or something in the glass...cause there is no reason that screen should shatter like that from a foot drop...needless to say the store manager saw what had happen and told the girl to get the customer a new phone from the cabinet
i can say now though im going to keep a tighter grip on my phone from now on

Lol freek91 that's another thread of its own. But believe it or not I saw first hand like you how weak it is as I saw my friend drop it from his lap and thing shattered badly but it worked. I read similar feedback online that's the reason I am very anal about getting firm grip always and wasted $50 on case...
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if you drop the device, there is great chance to crack or even shatter the screen, and moreover, if you slide it over the surface of concrete, I'm sure the silicate/siliconate will have a great chance to scratch your screen.
The point is: take a tight grip of your device!

broke my screen, replaced it for $30.
Touchscreen is easily broken due to stiff frame.
Using TPU case makes it almost unbreakable....drooped in case several times from approximately 5ft onto concrete with no damage.
Get TPU case...run about $5 and look good
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I'm on my 4th one, due to the SF vs. SO issue, and my first one's screen got scratched in spite of being in the babying period. Not in a bad spot, but 2 clear small scratches that would be a problem if in the visible part of the screen.
So I didn't find the screen to be scratch resistant (maybe the SF and SO are different), so when I got one with a good screen, I put a protector on it. Which helps with fingerprints, too, so that's a win.
I wish it was gorilla glass. I had the Vibrant for 14 days and it really seemed to have a strong, scratch resistant screen (and, dare I say it, a vibrant screen).
Just another data point.

[Q] Samsung Infuse Cracked Glass

I have a samsung infuse from AT&T and recently dropped my phone.
The glass is completely cracked; however, the touch screen is working like normal.
Is there a way to replace the cracked glass only?
If it is possible, does anyone have instructions or a guide on how to fix the cracked glass?
Or, would I just have to file a claim with AT&T Insurance?
Thank you!

Your most likely going to have to claim insurance on your phone from my research the glass is not replaceable !!!
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Your most likely going to have to claim insurance on your phone from my research the glass is not replaceable !!!
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Really?
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...e&ie=UTF-8&q=samsung+infuse+glass+replacement

Well damn guess you can but I guess it depends upon how brave you are to start ripping into your phone and if your comfortable with small electronics
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Either of you go through with this yet? Would be curious to hear how it went...
I've looked around online, and everything I'm seeing says the digitizer, LCD, and outer glass are one fused together piece on the Infuse:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZI6d59ufSc
Even though eBay sellers have the Infuse outer glass for sale separately, it seems like pulling the glass off of the LCD/digitizer without destroying it is going to be extremely difficult. Even if you get the old glass off without damage, you still need to figure out how to attach the new glass to it.
Then what??????
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Kdog71588 said:
Either of you go through with this yet? Would be curious to hear how it went...
I've looked around online, and everything I'm seeing says the digitizer, LCD, and outer glass are one fused together piece on the Infuse:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZI6d59ufSc
Even though eBay sellers have the Infuse outer glass for sale separately, it seems like pulling the glass off of the LCD/digitizer without destroying it is going to be extremely difficult. Even if you get the old glass off without damage, you still need to figure out how to attach the new glass to it.
Then what??????
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http://www.repairsuniverse.com/samsung-infuse-i997-take-apart-repair-guide.html
This must be the instructions to remove outer screen because I have seen a video to replace the digitizer and screen assembly and it just popped off after removing some ribbon cables. I am waiting for outer screen ,outer casing and battery cover to arrive from China. Cost $30 with shipping. Will look brand new on outside if it works. I'll let you guys know how I make out.
Edit....After removing top glass with razor blade as it is fused to LCD with glue I lost response to touch. Ordered new LCD and digitizer with bezel (plastic frame that screen is attached to and circuit board mounts on) . I am not sure if I could get it to work if I could glue or fuse new top glass back on. Scratched the heck out of it anyways. Live and learn, if anyone else had better luck I would like to know.

I had great luck with mine. I started by heating the outer glass with a blow dryer and used a card from a regular deck of playing cards starting from top to bottom of the screen to get it started. After i got it about half way i didn't even use the blow dryer anymore just allot of playing cards. You have to be extremely careful on the top right of the LCD not to damage the ribbon for the digitzer. I got a few minor scratches on the LCD from shards of old glass but you can only see them if the screen is off and you look really hard. It pretty much looks brand new now. I just used thin double sided tape on the outside edges of the new glass for now as i haven't found a permanent way to hold down the glass yet. I will probably leave it that way so next time it breaks i don't have to go through the long process of separating the glass from the LCD again. In my opinion it was well worth the $10 and the labor to replace just the outer glass rather than the $130-$150 for the replacement LCD/digitizer and outer glass.

Thanks for trying.
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I had great luck with mine. I started by heating the outer glass with a blow dryer and used a card from a regular deck of playing cards starting from top to bottom of the screen to get it started. After i got it about half way i didn't even use the blow dryer anymore just allot of playing cards. You have to be extremely careful on the top right of the LCD not to damage the ribbon for the digitzer. I got a few minor scratches on the LCD from shards of old glass but you can only see them if the screen is off and you look really hard. It pretty much looks brand new now. I just used thin double sided tape on the outside edges of the new glass for now as i haven't found a permanent way to hold down the glass yet. I will probably leave it that way so next time it breaks i don't have to go through the long process of separating the glass from the LCD again. In my opinion it was well worth the $10 and the labor to replace just the outer glass rather than the $130-$150 for the replacement LCD/digitizer and outer glass.
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Hey thanks for trying, braveheart. I'm gonna try that too. Dont have a 100 to spend on the pair.
Can you make a guide of that? I think it will help alot of users. You can get pictures from internet and mark the critical points which will help in separation.

broken screen. Help!!! .
Month back, dropped my phone(2-3 times).
Now stuck with unusable mobile.
Can somebody suggest,where I can get its lcd [email protected]+ digitilizer, on cheap price.

Gorilla Corning Glass 2

How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
iTzAmazed

Normally its supposed to be decently strong. However, due to the design of the phone and the way the glass curves around the edges, it isn't uncommon for the point of impact to be directly on the glass. This creates a vulnerability for the device and is why you see so many broken S3s. This phone requires a case.
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Had this phone for months with no case and it still looks great. Been through a couple medium drops (nothing too crazy, but a couple feet onto concrete from the car) and no marks at all.
I refuse to double the size of my phone, which i bought because it was so sleek and small

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How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
iTzAmazed
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I think two inch fall will cause no damage don't you think? Unless you meant two feet.
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I have a uag case, too risky not to. I dropped mine from my mouth into the floor at the gas station. My only concern was getting it sanitized so I didn't get any germs.
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The problem with Gorilla Glass is the corners. From my experiences anyway. A short drop right on the corner completely wrecked my screen once. But I think two inches is quite an exaggeration. Had to be at least 2ft. Maybe a foot.

Digur said:
Had this phone for months with no case and it still looks great. Been through a couple medium drops (nothing too crazy, but a couple feet onto concrete from the car) and no marks at all.
I refuse to double the size of my phone, which i bought because it was so sleek and small
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I find it hard to believe that you dropped your S3 a couple of feet, from a car and onto the concrete and didn't at least get a scuff mark?
Unless you drive hot wheels and your concrete is made of grass!
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How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
iTzAmazed
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That must be some drop. My screen shattered but it was also 10 degrees outside.

I have replaced several gorilla glass screens. They are great for scratch resistance, almost indestructible that way, but hit them on the edge, or pry up on it and snap crackle pop. I don't care what phone I have had, it gets a case that comes over the front to keep glass off table etc when face down, and I use Phantom Skinz on all my screens. Never had a problem yet, but it is fun replacing friends screens who don't like cases and screen covers ;-0.

droped mine less than 18 inches but caught the corner just right and shattered. the one time i didn't get insurance:crying:

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I have replaced several gorilla glass screens. They are great for scratch resistance, almost indestructible that way, but hit them on the edge, or pry up on it and snap crackle pop. I don't care what phone I have had, it gets a case that comes over the front to keep glass off table etc when face down, and I use Phantom Skinz on all my screens. Never had a problem yet, but it is fun replacing friends screens who don't like cases and screen covers ;-0.
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Honestly how strong is the screen protector. Like against good hits and stuff... I usually do the field goal catch when I drop my phone, where it flies across the room... Obviously that still might be too much, but do you think it would hold up pretty good?
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faehsemc said:
Honestly how strong is the screen protector. Like against good hits and stuff... I usually do the field goal catch when I drop my phone, where it flies across the room... Obviously that still might be too much, but do you think it would hold up pretty good?
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I think the screen protector is pretty strong. I look at it as a thin plastic/rubbery barrier between the glass and any sharp objects that might impact the glass. I have never broken or cracked a screen myself and had some pretty good drops/punts when trying to catch with foot lol.

Scratchproof not crashproof
GG protects against scratches, that's about it. I don't believe its any more shatter resistant than other glass. I use a bumper case, which protects the edges but leaves the back largely uncovered. Best compromise I could find between protection and not adding bulk. I actually prefer it to uncovered because I always found that the GS3 was kind of slick and easy to drop without a case of any kind.

Agree
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Mine screen got scratched pretty soon after I purchased it. I was pretty disappointed. Ended up getting a ZAG and it's held up nicely.

My screen scratched from my finger nail. My wife's screen is all scratched to hell. Yet she does nothing different than she did with her Fascinate with gg1. I think the coating on gg2 much softer.
I don't like it.
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rhamorsky said:
droped mine less than 18 inches but caught the corner just right and shattered. the one time i didn't get insurance:crying:
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700 phone and you didn't get insurance
I dont have insurance either but I do have one of those ebay TPU cases, seems to protect it from drops just fine

my friend's s3 hit a hardwood floor with the corner of his phone and a giant crack just appeared across his his screen

Here is a picture:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37829485#post37829485
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It actually fell out of my pocket (pants pocket - lower cargo pocket so about knee height) as I was getting it out.
Thing is, this was new years eve, and it had been sitting in my car for a number of hours. It landed on the edge of a concrete walkway, so it was uneven pressure when it hit.
And being as there was snow on the ground, it was really cold - the phone being in my car (off by the way) for those hours meant it was just as cold (and brittle) when it hit.
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There are two things on the screen in that picture - my customary piece of electrical tape over the front facing camera, and a screen protector.
The screen protector is why it's still usable. Without it, all the pieces of screen would have fallen out. The only thing that is broken, is the gorilla glass part of the screen.
It sucks trying to work through all the cracks and breakage, but because the screen protector keeps it all there and flat I can work through all that mess.
I bought another 32 gig model, so it's not the s3 I use day to day, but it does still have its role in my division of the android army.
I always use screen protectors, I don't care what claims are made about the screen. With it you have a chance to still use it in a worst case like this. Without it, this device would be relatively useless.
I'll eventually get around to buying another screen for it, but the screen protector held it together long enough for me to get another one, and now it's not such a priority on my list. Someday.

Here is a link with some pretty interesting info from Corning regarding Gorilla Glass, scratching, breaking, etc., including Gorilla Glass 3:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Corn...-Glass-3-is-not-like-most-other-glass_id38494

[Q] Is the glass on this phone strong?

Hi, im thinking about buying this phone because my Nexus 5 battery is horrible, the Z3 looks so good and the specs are good, however, im seeing lots of people saying that the glass on back or front cracks by itself, can you guys please post if your glass has broke and how long you have owned the phone

I have the original z and Z ultra. Had drop the ZU three times and 7 times on the z.
The ZU has not cracked, but the Z back glass did after falling into concrete, the back glass replacement only cost less that around US30.
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No, the glass is shocking!
107bird107 said:
Hi, im thinking about buying this phone because my Nexus 5 battery is horrible, the Z3 looks so good and the specs are good, however, im seeing lots of people saying that the glass on back or front cracks by itself, can you guys please post if your glass has broke and how long you have owned the phone
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had my phone for 4 days, dropped a short distance and it smashed like it'd been hit with a hammer! I definitely wouldn't have bought one if I'd realised! Sony customer experience was AWFUL! They've had the phone longer to fix (by weeks!) than I've had use of it! Back to Iphone for me!

The glass cracking thing is pretty rare and mostly the back glass. I would not worry about that. Its like worrying about the LG G3 cracking near the mic or dust under the M8 front camera module, both of which are also extremely rare. If you dig deep enough you won't be able to buy any phone, including the iPhone 6, which has a high defect replacement/exchange rate at T-Mobile due to the sheer volume of sales of course.

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had my phone for 4 days, dropped a short distance and it smashed like it'd been hit with a hammer! I definitely wouldn't have bought one if I'd realised! Sony customer experience was AWFUL! They've had the phone longer to fix (by weeks!) than I've had use of it! Back to Iphone for me!
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I got the z3. My wife had the iPhone 6 for about 60 hours, dropped it once and the screen was completely shattered. Shards fell out. Every phone can break when you drop it once.

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I've dropped mine onto marble tiles from a metre about 4 times and nothing. The glass is fine. All the haters will say it's going to shatter from heat/cold or blowing on it, but it's nonsense.
This phone has a lot more to worry about than cracking. That's one thing I know will not happen.

Seems like the front and back glass are not from 1 manufacturer. Had my phone for a month and noticed several scratches at the back. I think i got this when i put the phone on the laboratory table which was made of ceramic tiles. I carelessly put it and drag it (short distance only) trusting that the glass is strong. The front is pretty strong.dropped the phone several times from my bed to the floor with it's face down and no scratches on the front
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Yeah, within a week I've already gotten scratches on the back. The front is fine though.
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People saying that the front or back cracks by itself and then the screen does not work

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People saying that the front or back cracks by itself and then the screen does not work
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People are saying that an omnipotent man sent his son to earth to save us from eternal pain

My front screen is fine. Back cracked on its own a few days after getting it. Got some deep scratchs on the back from sand on table at beach today and general scuff marks from everyday usage. Front is fine; no scratches or anything
Cracks don't seem to be too common though

Slipped off my bed and landed on a plate, back glass cracked from top to bottom, left to right. I only had it for a couple weeks.
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Does anyone know how much it costs Sony to replace it? They won't say onnthe phone.

Yeah they won't until they see it just in case there is more than meets the eye. LG did the same to me when I dropped my G2 and screen shattered.
Back on topic, the back can be purchased for between $20-30 so at local repair shop it shouldn't cost more than $40-50 if you want some one to repair it for you.
If you want to do it yourself you will need a heat gun to loosen the glue and a suction cup or guitar pick etc to take out the back panel, also you would need to have glue to put the new one in. I forgot to mention, you have to detach the NFC pad from old panel and put it on the new one.
You better just give it to some one to repair it for $40-50 if you are not willing to do the above.

abhinav.tella said:
Yeah they won't until they see it just in case there is more than meets the eye. LG did the same to me when I dropped my G2 and screen shattered.
Back on topic, the back can be purchased for between $20-30 so at local repair shop it shouldn't cost more than $40-50 if you want some one to repair it for you.
If you want to do it yourself you will need a heat gun to loosen the glue and a suction cup or guitar pick etc to take out the back panel, also you would need to have glue to put the new one in. I forgot to mention, you have to detach the NFC pad from old panel and put it on the new one.
You better just give it to some one to repair it for $40-50 if you are not willing to do the above.
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I am more than comfortable doing it myself. I did it on my Z. I have everything I need including guitar picks. Everything I find basically says that you can't guarantee a water tight case with aftermarket backs. Also if Sony does it, it's water proof again. I just don't know what to expect....$50......$100.....200. If it's a ton than I won't even bother sending it in to find out. I'm wondering if anyone has ever sent in a Z series for back glass?

If you search the forum, I recall someone had it done for $40-50 if I am not mistaken. It will definately will not cost $100, your pushing into display/digitizer assembly territory at that price.

I've had my phone slip off a couch and a tv dinner table onto hardwood floor and each time the phone has been fine. No dents or scratches that I noticed.
Planning to get a cheap back protector so it's not so slippery.

Glass is easy to crack. I accidentally drop my phone from 0.5m high facedown and right bottom corner front LCD was cracked called Sony Center and the price is $250 for the LCD and whole bezel thing. Pain in the A double S

Painful indeed, Corning is advertising their new GG4 as 2x better for impacts, in their ads they show gorillas dropping phones face down lol. I wish we had that.

Any successful self screen replacements?

Well after about two years with my nexus 5 I finally got careless and dropped it without it being in my spigen case Glass shattered. The lcd and digitizer still work fine. I ordered a replacement screen that comes with the digitizer fused to it already as I've read its too much work to literally just replace the glass. I've watched a bunch of videos and I'm a tinkerer by nature and it looks rather simple. Anyone here successfully replaced their nexus 5 screen?
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I've done both screen and digitizer plus frame, which is literally just switching internals, and I've also don't just the glass, its far easier to replace the screen and digitizer together, make sure u use a hot blow dryer and remove the battery and mother board before applying heat, if u need any further pointers let me know
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Thanks man! I have a few different YouTube instructional videos saved that I'll be using as reference. I also have a heatgun so I'll be using that. I'll PM you if I run into trouble (hopefully I don't)!
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It's really easy, u should be fine
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I recently put 2 nexus 5's together to make a working one. Just had to swap all the internals over from one with a cracked screen to another with a water damaged motherboard. The whole process was pretty simple just unscrewing and swapping things over really. Mind you I didnt have to replace the frame, which I would say is probably the most difficult part of a screen replacement. If you have already done ur research, just go slow and dont force things too much everything should be sweet.

It's virtually impossible to separate the front glass, digitizer and LCD without destroying them. I've come close but have never been successfully. It's not worth the trouble.y suggestion is to buy a new fre as well. It's a pain to dig all the broken glass off the frame. I'd much rather pay an additional 7 dollars and save the time and avoid picking shardsof glass out of my fingers. A reused frame is rarely like new anyway. There are often issues with seating of the LCD and problems with the adhesive. The nexus 4 was really bad in this regard. I have one, it works and I managed to get the proximity sensor to work, but I'd never do it that way again.
I replaced the screen on my nexus 5 with a LCD that came in the frame. It turned out to be a good choice as my frame was actually broken. It cracked right by the buttons on both sides. I have a second ont thats broken the same way, except the lcd works well enough to use so im waiti g until it dies completely to fix it. The front glass was actually on, but the LCD cracked. It seemed odd that the LCD cracked but not the glass until I had it apart. (I bekwice the digitizer on these is part of the LCD, as opposed to being laminated on the back of the glass)
The replacement went very smooth. I did it on my mother in laws kitchen table. You will need a credit card (to get the battery off) a hair dryer (for the battery) and a small screw driver. Don't use the ones they usually send with the screen, they are bad quality and will chew screws and or break leaving you without a screwdriver in the middle of the repair. Google the d820 service manual and read the disassembly section. Work carefully with plenty of light and be very careful with the tiny connectors. There are some parts that are stuck down, for instance the battery. Heat them with a hair dryer. It's best to hold it in your hand when you do this. If you can hold it, the heats OK, if its to hot to hold, its too hot. Usea credit card to pry up the battery if your changing frames. Heat both the front and back until you can slide the card under the battery.

Thanks the insight guys. Really appreciate it. Times like these make me happy I'm apart of the nexus community lol. Unfortunately I did not buy a new frame so I'll be picking out glass for a while! I just ordered the part yesterday and paid extra for faster processing and shipping. Reviewed a few more videos and manuals today and feel pretty confident. I was going to dish out 500 for the new 6p, but I just don't feel like I'm done with my N5 yet. So hopefully this replacement gives me another 4-6 months with my phone before I finally decide to upgrade.
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I replaced a screen on an n4 and n5. Replacing just the digitizer was such a pain on the n4 that I decided to get the frame, lcd, and digitizer pre-assembled for the n5. For me, it's worth it to get everything pre-assembled.

I just got my screen, LCD and digitizer yesterday. I'll be performing the swap today. Wish me luck!
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Successful repair! I can't explain how nice it is to have a crystal clear screen again. So refreshing!
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