Secure Element phones - Android General

Ok, so after spending $650 for a retail HTC Droid DNA, I have recently come to find out that it does not have a secure element and thus I will never be able to install Google Wallet...
As of right now I know that the Galaxy Nexus and the S3 have one. I have owned both and successfully installed Google Wallet on both, after some rooting & nudging of course! FU Verizon! lol
Is there a way to know this before a purchase?

Wow, nobody knows?
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What to upgrade to?

OK so I just got this phone a few days ago from verizon but I'm considering doing an exchange within 14 days. What phones out now have good support as far as rooting, custom ROMs, etc. The DX2 doesn't have much going for it, it seems. I've mainly got my eye on the bionic but what are your thoughts on the current phones?
Also does anyone know anything about the Nexus Prime. As in a release date? That phone is looking sexy but if its not released within my 14 day return window I don't think I will be able to touch it.
Thanks for reading and thanks in advance for any replies.
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Verizon phones are pretty much anti flashing/custom roms phones.
I realize that now. This was the first phone I've rooted. If I would have known how much Verizon locks their devices down I would have just swapped carriers. Stuck for 2 years now though. Wanna make the best of it
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This is probably not what you are looking for but the HTC Droid Incredible is easy to root and still has great dev support. I have one and I am thinking about upgrading to something else.
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don't listen to him. incredible is horrifically underpowered as compared to modern dual core phones. Get the bionic before your 14 days is up. cyanogenMod is already in alpha for it, and its promised to get ICS.
mtmerrick said:
don't listen to him. incredible is horrifically underpowered as compared to modern dual core phones. Get the bionic before your 14 days is up. cyanogenMod is already in alpha for it, and its promised to get ICS.
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No offense but he asked what phones for Verizon are easy to root and have good dev support. The incredible has both.
My last incredible got stuck in boot loop (first problem in over a year of ownership) so Verizon sent me a new one. They also offered me an early upgrade so I was thinking of upgrading to something else. I am still undecided if I should upgrade or not.
The Incredible is still a great phone that is both stable and fast.
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I'm leaning more towards the bionic. I don't much see the point in getting a phone that is pretty far behind what's out now. Are there even any phones that can compare to the Droid right now?
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which droid do you mean? if you mean the OG moto droid, then the only thing that is that weak still sold on verizion are their bottom-of-the-line free phones (moto citus, LG votrex) which are absolute POS devices.
+1 for bionic, nice phone
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which droid do you mean? if you mean the OG moto droid, then the only thing that is that weak still sold on verizion are their bottom-of-the-line free phones (moto citus, LG votrex) which are absolute POS devices.
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Guess I should have said bionic instead of just Droid but I think it was safe to assume I meant bionic since that's what I've been talking about. Do the even still sell the OG Droid?
Ill have to wait a few days and see if it will be worth the 35 dollar restocking fee plus the cash ill be eating for the case, screen protectors, and car dock. On top of the extra 200 bucks for the bionic itself lol
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oops, my bad
no, there's nothing that can measure up to the bionic, and there won't be for about 2 weeks (roughly). then there will be several things
I know lol that's what I hate about the cell phone market. You can save your upgrade for months knowing that an amazing phone is about to come out then weeks, even days later here comes something better. I only have until November 2nd to make a decision though. I wish the nexus prime was coming out before then...
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Galaxy Nexus
The Galaxy Nexus should be released on November 10 ,2011. Looks like you wont be able to touch it , unless you find a way of pre ordering it
I don't recall off the top of my head when the pre orders start but I think it was within my 14 days. Wonder if I can do the return with a pre order.
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then what phone would you use?
My old Eris of course ^_^
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Just thought I'd post an update. As you can see I decided to exchange for the bionic. Its actually kind of funny because the Verizon rep sold it to me for a lot less than he should of. I paid 100-50(MIR) for the X2 plus around 60 for the car charger, screen protectors, and navigation dock.
So the Bionic should have been 250-50(the actual price paid for the X2)+35 dollars for the restocking fee. So around 235 before tax. However he told me 143 after tax. Me being an idiot and a fairly honest guy told him that the price seemed low. So he went through the receipts and told me "well you paid 150 for the X2 so you get that price off of the bionic." I just nodded and smiled.
Not sure where he got 150 from but I'm not complaining. Now just to see if I still get the $50 MIR.
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Get the bionic! Easy to root and great roms already. I had the incredible and loved it. But the bionic is a beast!
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mtmerrick said:
oops, my bad
no, there's nothing that can measure up to the bionic, and there won't be for about 2 weeks (roughly). then there will be several things
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This ^^^^^^^^^^

Htc one s s3 vs nexus

Hey there,
I got my one s 3 months ago because of it has s4 processor. But same day i got the phone i learnt it has a s3 processor. Then i didnt give the phone back.
Anyway, for a while i am thinking to sell this phone and get a nexus. And i wonder what do you think? (There is no bad performance issues about phone btw. )
Thanks in advance.
Have a nice day.
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I wouldn't get a Galaxy Nexus - however I would probably send it to your retailer and ask for an S4, since you bought the phone thinking you would get an S4. Ask for an S4. Or sell your One S, and wait for the next nexus(es)
In my country there is no s4 version so i couldn't do that but i think i will wait until new nexus. Thanks for the comment.
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The support to Rom development far surpasses the android for the nexus series. If u are a hacker I rather u Change. Satisfaction obtain thru the nexus community is endless. Source: I'm a nexus s user
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I wouldn't send it back. I have used the Nexus for quite a while and selled it a month ago because I wanted the One S. I really don't regrett it. I like the feel, the looks, the size and pretty much everything more then those from the Nexus. Unfortunatly there is no Cyanogenmod/ParanoidAndroid availible for the S3 version. This is the only thing I don't like about this phone. But I hope there will be in the future because more and more S3 devices get selled. Here in Germany you have to be lucky to get the S4 version (in every shop there are only the S3 versions). Maybe I'll sell it in the future and get a Nexus (if I like it), who knows...
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I wouldn't send it back. I have used the Nexus for quite a while and selled it a month ago because I wanted the One S. I really don't regrett it. I like the feel, the looks, the size and pretty much everything more then those from the Nexus. Unfortunatly there is no Cyanogenmod/ParanoidAndroid availible for the S3 version. This is the only thing I don't like about this phone. But I hope there will be in the future because more and more S3 devices get selled. Here in Germany you have to be lucky to get the S4 version (in every shop there are only the S3 versions). Maybe I'll sell it in the future and get a Nexus (if I like it), who knows...
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Complain to your carrier, say you were expecting an S4 but you got an S3. Push them, and they'll give it. Or get a written confirmation from your carrier, allowing you to replace the phone by sending it to HTC and requesting an S4 processor. Sure, it is a hassle, but if you ask me it's well worth it.
I'm sort of on the same train of thought. I really do like the HTC but the development or lack of development kind of makes me want to sell it and hope that HTC will come out with a Nexus or something of the sort...
If HTC does make a nexus, it will be heavily priced.
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Complain to your carrier, say you were expecting an S4 but you got an S3. Push them, and they'll give it. Or get a written confirmation from your carrier, allowing you to replace the phone by sending it to HTC and requesting an S4 processor. Sure, it is a hassle, but if you ask me it's well worth it.
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I've already rooted it and I have Trickdroid on it. Are you sure it will work?
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[DISCUSSION] Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Edition: Confirmed.

Available from Play in a 16GB variant compatible with ATT/TMobile with LTE support, bootloader unlocked, running stock Android 4.2.2 with direct updates from Google just like the Nexus line.
June 26th is the date. $649 is the price.
Discuss
Does this point to no new android update(4.3)?
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Thanks for information : D
Has micro SD storage been confirmed?
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Has micro SD storage been confirmed?
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Yes it will have a micro sd card as stated in the key note.
And before people ask here. No it will not have any of the so called samsung goodies.
This is completely retarted why would Samsung create a Google edition? Not that's its bad just don't make sense
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Seems like HTC is bringing out an Google version of the HTC One as well.
"So you can pay $649 for a piece of plastic running stock or... You can wait #IO13" posted by Leigh (@jetleigh)
B2t, i would like the Stock version of the S4, but if HTC also releases a stock of their HTC one, then i definitly gonna buy the Stock HTC.
I would totally buy this thing if they had used software keys. Galaxy Nexus II?; sounds better than "Samsung Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition" The same goes for HTC except that would be a little harder to name.
Is samsung stuff still there.. according to google version of s4
I was wondering if they would leave the Samsung extras or pull them. I actually really like this move towards offering a plain version of the phone. It's making me really considering leaving Vz.
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The same goes for HTC except that would be a little harder to name.
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Hahaha ha HTC one two.
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Infekxion said:
I would totally buy this thing if they had used software keys. Galaxy Nexus II?; sounds better than "Samsung Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition" The same goes for HTC except that would be a little harder to name.
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MAny people like hard keys better instead of them hell hole screen burn in navigation bar. Plus we get more screen estate
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Guys, are you serious? This is just what EVERYBODY wanted for years...now the realization has just begun! Pure Android, micro SD, good cam, a "normal" manufacturer without nexus handcuffs...man, this is just great! I donĀ“t know if I really will switch within the next few weeks or months, but this is the first step in the IDEAL direction!
Just great!
bbrad said:
MAny people like hard keys better instead of them hell hole screen burn in navigation bar. Plus we get more screen estate
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I do like all that screen, I just dont like "moving parts" and wonky button layouts. HTC got it right with the One X and got it wrong with the One, IMO. This GS4 NE is a smart move for Samsung and Google though.
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If my note 2 didn't have such good aosp ROM and kernel support I'd ditch it for the S4GE. This is the dream Nexus. Top hardware (mostly) with no bs software. Perfect. Folks will argue for a 32gb version but whatever... As far as price, I think it's right where it should be, that's how much unlocked bleeding edge devices cost.
So what do you guys think about development? Will the devs go for the SGS4 or the SGS4 Google? (Same question for the HTC One)
I think they will go for the Google version for both phones, but that would be stupid for all those guy which bought an SGS4 or HTC One because they expected the devs would focus on these, so i am not sure about that.
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So what do you guys think about development? Will the devs go for the SGS4 or the SGS4 Google? (Same question for the HTC One)
I think they will go for the Google version for both phones, but that would be stupid for all those guy which bought an SGS4 or HTC One because they expected the devs would focus on these, so i am not sure about that.
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HTC google edition? HTC said they were not making one.
As for development I dont see the S4GE selling well when Devs can get the same thing for far cheaper up front.
zelendel said:
HTC google edition? HTC said they were not making one.
As for development I dont see the S4GE selling well when Devs can get the same thing for far cheaper up front.
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Sorry, had been wrong on the first point. Will the S4GE be as open as the Nexus devices are or is it just a S4 with Stock Android, did not get that point.
So I'm thinking of buying an S4 next week (on contract from Three), do you guys think I'll be able to install Google's own ROM when they release it?
Or will I actually have to buy Google's S4 edition?
This is going to be the best of both worlds!!!
What I always hated about Samsung phones? Software!
Sloppy bloat- and crap-ware, late updates (sometimes as much as 1.5 year late btw),etc.
What I don't like about nexus? Limited hardware!
Chopped off sdcard, no apt-x, etc.
So this is going to be the mix of what I like about both.
Or maybe I wish it would be... Unless G chops off the sd slot last second or S would stick some piece of crap in the midst of pure android!
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Should I Upgrade now or later?

So. My mom told me that she's gonna buy me a new phone before I go back go high school, which is 8/26. Now, I don't know if I should upgrade now or later. Obviously, I have T-Mobile. And I love this phone. But truth be told, its getting old. The reason why I ask, is well. Because there's just not so many options on T-Mobile right now.. 1 HTC, 2 Samsung, 2 Google/LG, 1 Nokia, and the new (to us) xperia z. So I turn to you guys, to see what you'd do. If now, what phone would you get? If later.. wait for which phone? iPhone 5C, iPhone 5S/6? New nexus phone? Cheers, guys.
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First of all, if your mom is like mine I would upgrade now before she changes her mind lol. I gave that a lot of thought but honestly every phone is going to have its ups n downs so just pick one and enjoy it. If it were me, I would just go with an s4 and call it a day. Htcone is nice, but I think a plastic build comes with a lot of benefits.
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Lol. Yeah true that. The reason why I'd get the s4 over the one, is that modding it is easier.. well not easier, but I'm already comfortable with Odin. But, I have just always loved HTC and HTC sense.-.
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Lol. Yeah true that. The reason why I'd get the s4 over the one, is that modding it is easier.. well not easier, but I'm already comfortable with Odin. But, I have just always loved HTC and HTC sense.-.
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I've never cared for sense. Or TouchWiz. Or any stock framework really. I always do my research and make sure there are a lot of options before I buy a phone. CyanogenMod support is a must. If CM supports it, basically everything does.
and SHAME ON YOU for even mentioning iPhone! lol jk, jk.
If it were me, I'd go with the Nexus 4 if your mom could spring it without breaking the bank (I know you mentioned LG/Google, so idk if that was an option or not). Otherwise, my choice would be the S4 or the Xperia. It'd be a tough call either way.
Get a phone with lte . I tried the exhilarates lte. It is awesome.
N4 is about to get replaced in a few months as it looks. Buy an s4 or wait for the "s5"
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You should follow TmoNews. If your into Ubuntu phones, T-Mobile joined Canonicals Ubuntu Carrier Advisory Group.. We might get the Ubuntu Phone Hint hint. I also remember seeing on TmoNews about the Moto X passing through the FCC with T-Mobile written all over it. Wait a few months or so and wait for new phones to come out.
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The lg g2 looking nice
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The s4 has sooo many custom ROMs your head will spin.Lol
I'm running Carbon( my favorite) and just installed wallet by Dwitherell. Plus Steve Kondik has one so you can't lose.
Oh and you'll love the camera, nice pics with fast bursts.
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The s4 has sooo many custom ROMs your head will spin.Lol
I'm running Carbon( my favorite) and just installed wallet by Dwitherell. Plus Steve Kondik has one so you can't lose.
Oh and you'll love the camera, nice pics with fast bursts.
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Whoa - I didn't know that sort of thing was being used beyond the note 2 I can't take credit for that stuff, I just put it together differently.
xWolf13 said:
You should follow TmoNews. If your into Ubuntu phones, T-Mobile joined Canonicals Ubuntu Carrier Advisory Group.. We might get the Ubuntu Phone Hint hint. I also remember seeing on TmoNews about the Moto X passing through the FCC with T-Mobile written all over it. Wait a few months or so and wait for new phones to come out.
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I used to be obssed with following tmonews.. but ever since I got the iPad mini, I haven't used my computer as much anymore.. thus, jparnell.. a reason why I kinda don't want the iPhone 5 >.< lol
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If you Google nexus 5 you will see that there are now very strong rumors pointing to a Motorola Google nexus being out q4 this year and it will not be a moto x gpe. If that happens I would wait for the next nexus - that will be my next phone. But if you must have a user replaceable battery and SD card slot then the sgs4 would be the phone to get.
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So I'm thinking i should wait until the galaxy note III lol. What do you guys think? Good or Bad Idea?
unicorndust98 said:
So I'm thinking i should wait until the galaxy note III lol. What do you guys think? Good or Bad Idea?
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Might not be a bad idea if your mom is still willing to buy it for you and that's the type of phone you like. Personally I'm still waiting for a Nexus 5 announcement. I'm ready for an upgrade (T-Mobile actually let me out of my Blaze contract 6 months early so I could switch to the new unlimited plan) and, if I were choosing amongst the phones available now, I'd probably get the Nexus 4. Unless I had someone buying the phone for me, if cost were not an issue I'd go the S4 Google Play edition.

What upcoming new phones will have root available?

I am just looking for a new phone that can be rooted. I currently have the Samsung Galaxy s6 so I am looking for a new phone that be rooted
Any specific budget/company in mind.And do tell where do you stay now so can give better suggestions.
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irony799 said:
I am just looking for a new phone that can be rooted. I currently have the Samsung Galaxy s6 so I am looking for a new phone that be rooted
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That can't be answered for upcoming devices that haven't been released to the market yet, it can be answered for devices that are currently on the market though.
I can certainly tell you that all new Nexus devices(pixel devices now) are always rootable as soon as they hit the market and they usually have plenty of custom development available and are easy to modify and recover. A Google Nexus/Pixel device is always a good choice.
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Cruzy12100 said:
Any specific budget/company in mind.And do tell where do you stay now so can give better suggestions.
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Well I am using AT&T. I also currently have a Samsung Galaxy s6 active
Any phone from a popular manufacturer (samsung,google,Lenovo,Motorola) generally have a very healthy community of modders which release the exploits in order to root such phones.so a phone from either of these manufacturers is a good bet if you want to root your phone.
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Cruzy12100 said:
Any phone from a popular manufacturer (samsung,google,Lenovo,Motorola) generally have a very healthy community of modders which release the exploits in order to root such phones.so a phone from either of these manufacturers is a good bet if you want to root your phone.
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I don't think AT&T have Google phones. Are the one plus phones able to root?
irony799 said:
I don't think AT&T have Google phones. Are the one plus phones able to root?
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Google phones can be unlocked and used on any network.
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Google phones can be unlocked and used on any network.
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I wanna pay monthly
So I probably can't buy that
irony799 said:
I wanna pay monthly
So I probably can't buy that
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AT&T probably offers Google phones, try finding a Google Pixel or one of the recent Google Nexus phones, AT&T should have them.
Besides, you can get the google phones directly from the Google store on payment plan, go to the Google store or Best Buy.
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AT&T probably offers Google phones, try finding a Google Pixel or one of the recent Google Nexus phones, AT&T should have them.
Besides, you can get the google phones directly from the Google store on payment plan, go to the Google store or Best Buy.
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I see a site called project fi
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I see a site called project fi
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Yeah, that's a service provided by google that uses multiple networks including your home WiFi to serve your activated project fi device no matter where you are and syncs your devices and your google account including your PC if you're signed into google on it. Base fee of $20 plus your data, you pay before you use the data and any left over is reimbursed to your payment account where you can cash it in or apply it to the next month.
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Yeah, that's a service provided by google that uses multiple networks including your home WiFi to serve your activated project fi device no matter where you are and syncs your devices and your google account including your PC if you're signed into google on it. Base fee of $20 plus your data, you pay before you use the data and any left over is reimbursed to your payment account where you can cash it in or apply it to the next month.
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do you know what kind of credit is required to finance for a Google phone?
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I don't think AT&T have Google phones. Are the one plus phones able to root?
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As far as I know,support for the one plus phones is quite huge so yeah,they can be roooted easily.
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I don't think AT&T have Google phones. Are the one plus phones able to root?
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You can buy one plus devices. It can be rooted and have great custom roms support on XDA or other forums.
Ashwinrg said:
You can buy one plus devices. It can be rooted and have great custom roms support on XDA or other forums.
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is there any other phones besides Google phones and one plus phones that have great rooting support? How about Iphones or the new Samsung Galaxy s8 or the lg phones?
irony799 said:
is there any other phones besides Google phones and one plus phones that have great rooting support? How about Iphones or the new Samsung Galaxy s8 or the lg phones?
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iPhone isn't worth having, Samsung flagship devices usually have root and lots of support as long as they don't have a locked bootloader(most newer models of Samsung devices have locked bootloader that can't be unlocked), high end LG devices usually have good support also, the mid range and low range LG devices typically don't get a lot of support.
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All of the newer Sammy devices will be locked down. I dont see them reverting that due to their Samsung Pay.
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As far as I know,support for the one plus phones is quite huge so yeah,they can be roooted easily.
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do you know the credit requirements for financing Google phones?
irony799 said:
do you know the credit requirements for financing Google phones?
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No clue. But I myself wouldn't own a phone from Google.
Droidriven said:
Yeah, that's a service provided by google that uses multiple networks including your home WiFi to serve your activated project fi device no matter where you are and syncs your devices and your google account including your PC if you're signed into google on it. Base fee of $20 plus your data, you pay before you use the data and any left over is reimbursed to your payment account where you can cash it in or apply it to the next month.
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umm sorry for yhe late reply. I couldn't finance a google phone so is there any other phone like a lg that have root support?

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