[Q] Root or wait? - RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hy people...
I'm finnaly got the JB in my phone... It was hard and complicated to get it... and that's why I'm resisting to get the ICS back to keep the root in JB.
Now the question: Do you think that someone will figure out how to root the JB without going back to ICS? or it is impossible?
Thanks a lot!

Maybe. I couldn't wait so I did return to ics to root properly. Softbricked my phone but managed to fix it. No regrets!
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root, its worth it

Borderpatrol1987 said:
root, its worth it
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yeah... I get 4.0 back... rooted... installed ota rootkeeper... and get 4.1... then... it fails...
what to do?? the Su file is there... but I don't know what it means...

I think you need to unroot with ota root keeper before upgrading. Keep a backup!
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unlock bootloader that best way , I just done it and got the CM10 installed which is much nicer and faster.

steiger said:
I think you need to unroot with ota root keeper before upgrading. Keep a backup!
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yeah... that's what i did... i kept a backup... and temporaly unrooted the phone...

jasonnew said:
unlock bootloader that best way , I just done it and got the CM10 installed which is much nicer and faster.
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I'm never put a CM on any phone... the last experience i had with custom roms was with my old xperia play...
what is better on CM10?

renanmmagalhaes said:
yeah... that's what i did... i kept a backup... and temporaly unrooted the phone...
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You can try resetting your phone to factory settings and then download and install the OTA from the configurations menu.
Keep in mind that resetting the phone to factory settings removes su, so keep a backup, unroot the phone and then reset the configurations.
Maybe you'll have to root again using the utility after doing the factory reset.
I, too, had to try many times before nailing it.

Borderpatrol1987 said:
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Just out of curiosity, what is worth it? I just got the phone, and I've rooted every other phone I've had. So far, this seems like the first one I don't need to root. I'm on shared data, which means I get wifi hotspot for free. I don't need titanium backup this time. The JB Moto UI seems light-weight, fast, and the battery lasts forever, so a custom ROM doesn't seem necessary. I'm not trying to be a smart alec, just honestly curious as to what rooting can do for me?

fester30 said:
Just out of curiosity, what is worth it? I just got the phone, and I've rooted every other phone I've had. So far, this seems like the first one I don't need to root. I'm on shared data, which means I get wifi hotspot for free. I don't need titanium backup this time. The JB Moto UI seems light-weight, fast, and the battery lasts forever, so a custom ROM doesn't seem necessary. I'm not trying to be a smart alec, just honestly curious as to what rooting can do for me?
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For you there is probably little benefit, though it's always good to keep titanium backups, and it's great for freezing problem apps you never use and don't want to remove. I also use Nova launcher and several other apps that require root for full functionality.
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fester30 said:
Just out of curiosity, what is worth it? I just got the phone, and I've rooted every other phone I've had. So far, this seems like the first one I don't need to root. I'm on shared data, which means I get wifi hotspot for free. I don't need titanium backup this time. The JB Moto UI seems light-weight, fast, and the battery lasts forever, so a custom ROM doesn't seem necessary. I'm not trying to be a smart alec, just honestly curious as to what rooting can do for me?
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im in the same exact boat. I have had every other phone rooted but i just dont see the need on this one. Limited dev work from what i can see. Already have a great battery. Now we just wait for a Moto Nexus Soon

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Software Update ED2

Just got an update... FYI
Me too, didn't install yet because my battery is too low.
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Mine is asking me to update too. Any idea if I'll need to re-root? Not too big a deal but would like to know. Thanks!
You will need to re-root. I lost mine. The previous root I used doesn't work anymore.
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DRAZY said:
You will need to re-root. I lost mine. The previous root I used doesn't work anymore.
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How did you root the first time ?
Looks like the adb root method with Gingerbreak is not working with the update. Guess I'll stick with the Thunderbolt as daily driver until another root method comes down the pike.
Wonder if that's why the phone was delayed - to disable easy root.
I dunno, seems unlikely... this post suggests there have been significant performance improvements:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/05/13/verizon-pushes-software-update-to-samsung-droid-charge-prior-to-launch/
I was rooted. lost it.
I picked mine up on the way from work and was setting it up when I got the OTA.
I had most everything removed that I wanted to, ran titanium and already set up my hosts file when I got the OTA pop-up. I ran it but I lost root and the method I used to root it now do not work. Has anyone found a new method to root the Charge?
Anyone care to dump the new build for me?
would if I could....need root back.
imnuts said:
Anyone care to dump the new build for me?
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have to work the overnight tonight and NOTHING to do lol (security)
if you point me toward a tutorial for what you need, I'd gladly help out

Rooting?

Does rooting reduce battery life? I'm not going to install a custom rom. Just get rid of some bloatware?
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it does not affect battery. it just allows certain apps more access to the internals of the system/kernel
doesnt drain battery anymore than normal.
OK. Thanks for the replies. Can anyone send me a link to find the benefits of rooting apart from custom roms
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I had a htc hero and htc evo both were rooted and from my experience i was able to get better battery life with some custom roms.
sayeed91 said:
OK. Thanks for the replies. Can anyone send me a link to find the benefits of rooting apart from custom roms
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
Reasons to root:
Get the latest versions of Android on your phone before anyone else.
Try faster and more optimized versions of your phone's software.
Overclocking and underclocking your phone.
Longer battery life.
Theme your phone a lot more.
FREE Wireless Tethering.
Remove unwanted Sprint software.
ok.... i was wondering if i do an ota update will i lose root? also if i do the update will i have to wait ages before i can root again?
sayeed91 said:
ok.... i was wondering if i do an ota update will i lose root? also if i do the update will i have to wait ages before i can root again?
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from what i understand yes you can loose root and you have to wait for a dev to crack open the new ota.
js417 said:
from what i understand yes you can loose root and you have to wait for a dev to crack open the new ota.
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In most cases yes you will loose root in any OTA update so you may have to wait. Root with a custom ROM and you will not have to worry.

Should I root this here Nexus S?

Hello friends.
I just bought this phone about 10 minutes ago, coming over from Evo 4G. I understand why everyone would want to root that phone (bloatware), but since there isn't bloatware on this phone, should I root it?
Basically, do the negatives outweigh the positives of rooting. If not, I'll do it.
Thanks!
No.
This phone has no bloat and you have access to all hardware. Stock firmware does have issues but it is overall a good experience and will give you access to your apps/phone/text which is the purpose of the device.
Gain root access to other phones like Evo 4G for purpose of removing bloat or the Nexus One to be able to utilize the trackball to wake.
I would just root it now, pretty sure all the rooting methods wipe your phone so if you change your mind you will lose everything. Actually voodoo color is a good reason to root
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Unlocking the bootloader is what wipes all user data so you should do that now.
Of course once bootloader is unlocked then rooting is just a couple if command lines away....
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I just got one myself. Reading up now on how to get root.
So if I root now, I will lose all my game saves for the games I've been playing? Anyway of backing those up? And some of the Apps will get redownloaded after I sign into my Google account right?
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The apps yes the saved data no. Not sure of anyother way to root less backup. Maybe coping your android folder to your desktop
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SComp23 said:
Hello friends.
I just bought this phone about 10 minutes ago, coming over from Evo 4G. I understand why everyone would want to root that phone (bloatware), but since there isn't bloatware on this phone, should I root it?
Basically, do the negatives outweigh the positives of rooting. If not, I'll do it.
Thanks!
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Root for overclock, voodoo sound and color, backup and most important, smoothness!
But you will lost your warranty
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window7 said:
But you will lost your warranty
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But you can re-lock the boot loader on the nexus S so it's relatively simple to unroot/return it to stock if you need a warranty repair or want to return it.
Backup is the best reason to root, though if I didn't **** with my phone so much I probably wouldn't need a backup.
what's voodoo??
Sim2 said:
But you can re-lock the boot loader on the nexus S so it's relatively simple to unroot/return it to stock if you need a warranty repair or want to return it.
Backup is the best reason to root, though if I didn't **** with my phone so much I probably wouldn't need a backup.
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If Samsung wants to be picky on you they can read out files showing how many times teh bootloader was locked/unlocked.
I'm bored, so I'm going to root it. What is the best, most user friendly (bug free) ROM for a first time rooter?
SComp23 said:
I'm bored, so I'm going to root it. What is the best, most user friendly (bug free) ROM for a first time rooter?
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Stock Android ROM, as rooting is not related to flashing ROMs.
rentaric said:
Stock Android ROM, as rooting is not related to flashing ROMs.
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My fault. I want to unlock the bootloader and flash a ROM.

[Q] Rooted but not unlocked

I rooted my device using an app from an old guide long ago. I am still on stock with no custom recovery or rom so basically rooted factory ice cream sandwich. I did one Asus update and used ota root keeper to keep root. Now Asus has pushed me the jellybean update envied I'm not sure the best way to go about rooting and such. The only caveat is I might sell and not sure if I want to unlock the boot loader or not. Should I? And if so which guide do I follow? Thanks all.
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Im sorry, but I have no idea how you were able to get root without your device being unlcoked....Very strange
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633125
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That reply offered little to no help. Please refrain from posting if you don't offer any help.
DRatJr said:
That reply offered little to no help. Please refrain from posting if you don't offer any help.
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No help? Probably because the answers have all been posted long ago and your snarkiness does not help your cause. BTW - Merry Christmas.
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Reilly1812 said:
No help? Probably because the answers have all been posted long ago and your snarkiness does not help your cause. BTW - Merry Christmas.
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Yes probably long ago. But searching through hundreds of pages would do me no good. I am just unsure of what to do in this situation. Which I havent seen others in. Merry Christmas to you too bud
Also, nice going with the "I'm gonna have an attitude but say something seemingly nice at the end" post. Very original of you.
So how about this, should I just unroot with the same tool I used and follow one of the guides to unlock and root with custom recovery and rom? I am on 4.0.3 as of now. Thanks
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Right from the get-go. Regardless...
Ensure superuser binary current.
Having ES File Explorer or another like app is a nice-to-have. Keeps system mounted as r/w if you need to get to system/bin.
You already know about OTA Rootkeeper. 100% stock required. Temp unroot.
Apply OTA updates. Reenable root with OTA Rootkeeper. Do NOT manually apply updates - you WILL lose root.
That is the process. Go back to the beginning and work your way forward to find all of the posts. You will see what worked and where people messed up. Don't take my word for it - it's out there.
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So what about if I want recovery and roms?
Unlock is your only option.
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Ok so I should just unroot with this app and then follow one of the guides?
On a train for 2 hours with signal dropping out often. Do you want to stay stock or not? Just asking - no sarcasm here?
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Reilly1812 said:
On a train for 2 hours with signal dropping out often. Do you want to stay stock or not? Just asking - no sarcasm here?
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As in stock rooted with unlocked bootloader and custom recovery? Or stock as in using OTA rootkeeper and updating?
I am stock, locked and rooted. I am not your guide to go unlocked and custom roms.
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Reilly1812 said:
I am stock, locked and rooted. I am not your guide to go unlocked and custom roms.
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Ok well if I go stock, locked, and rooted, will I be able to go unlocked, custom recovery and custom rom later? As in if I update to JB then want to go unlocked later?
If, and I mean if, the asus boot unlocker works for you. does not for a lot of people. appears to be a serial# issue at asus. if you can unlock you can do anything you want - jb or ics.
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Reilly1812 said:
If, and I mean if, the asus boot unlocker works for you. does not for a lot of people. appears to be a serial# issue at asus. if you can unlock you can do anything you want - jb or ics.
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Ok so how do I make sure my SU binary is current?

[Q] keep root for 19.6.3 ota?

I have a rooted Verizon droid maxx. I am really worried about losing root if I take the ota. Is there any safe way to take the ota without losing my root? I've read like 2 posts of people saying the pro version of supersu and Survival mode keeps root. I've also read 1 post saying that they accidently took it and didn't lose root. Can anyone confirm this?
I would like to know the answer to this as well. I was just prompted for this update.
at that i know most users keep the root with Superuser in Survival mode
u can try and let us know
danger2u said:
at that i know most users keep the root with Superuser in Survival mode
u can try and let us know
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Considering that you cannot downgrade to a exploitable version of android if it doesn't work, I think I will pass.
Here is a guy that did it and said he keep root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52763259
I believe the one that did it accidentally had an unlocked boot loader which makes root possible no matter what.
I saw another post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52795898
Saying that the biggest part of the update was the radio which can be flashed without taking the whole upgrade if you are worried about it.
Me personally, my BL is unlocked and I'm going back to 4.2. I've seen nothing but negatives (bad battery life, FC's, etc) with the updates. I might would stick it out if there was some new features but they seem like just more of the same.
I used survival mode and took the ota and still have root. Unfortunately I lost my WiFi tether and am trying to get that back now.
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Khanusma said:
I used survival mode and took the ota and still have root. Unfortunately I lost my WiFi tether and am trying to get that back now.
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You should use this
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.dym.motoxtether
That way you don't have to mess with reverting it back when next updated comes out.
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Khanusma said:
I used survival mode and took the ota and still have root. Unfortunately I lost my WiFi tether and am trying to get that back now.
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I have a droid mini XT 1030, stock with root and wifi apk hack.
I removed the wifi apk hack, put super su into survival mode and took the OTA. Worked out good and I retained root.
Caseyk621 said:
You should use this
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.dym.motoxtether
That way you don't have to mess with reverting it back when next updated comes out.
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Thanks! It worked great and now I have my wifi back.
My Maxx and girlfriend's Mini both kept root.
However, we've both lost TWRP recovery and can't seem to be able to flash it.
rlmesq said:
My Maxx and girlfriend's Mini both kept root.
However, we've both lost TWRP recovery and can't seem to be able to flash it.
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Are you sure you're rooted? Did you check worth root checker app? Are your bootloaders unlocked?
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Caseyk621 said:
Are you sure you're rooted? Did you check worth root checker app? Are your bootloaders unlocked?
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Bootloaders aren't unlocked.
Yep, all root functions seem to be working fine.RootChecker says I have root, I was able to install the latest version of Busybox, and TiBu and SecureSettings both get root access.
Now if somebody had some thoughts on flashing TWRP recovery...
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Bootloaders aren't unlocked.
Yep, all root functions seem to be working fine.RootChecker says I have root, I was able to install the latest version of Busybox, and TiBu and SecureSettings both get root access.
Now if somebody had some thoughts on flashing TWRP recovery...
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I didn't know you could use TWRP e a locked bootloader????? Maybe use safe strap?
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Caseyk621 said:
I didn't know you could use TWRP e a locked bootloader????? Maybe use safe strap?
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Maybe I'm brain dead. I thought I had TWRP on these phones after SlapMyMoto, but I guess it retained the stock recovery.
Too many Android devlices... can't keep track of what's running what.
I thought the big issue was not retaining root, but completely losing the Write-Protection off ability (ie ability to use xposed). I'm locked bootloader and don't see a reason to unlock.
livinitwarrior said:
I thought the big issue was not retaining root, but completely losing the Write-Protection off ability (ie ability to use xposed). I'm locked bootloader and don't see a reason to unlock.
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Not with this update Holmes. We're all good with this one
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Caseyk621 said:
Not with this update Holmes. We're all good with this one
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Awesome, one last question- did you uninstall xposed before installing?
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livinitwarrior said:
Awesome, one last question- did you uninstall xposed before installing?
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I did. But it saves your settings for when you reinstall!
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Caseyk621 said:
I did. But it saves your settings for when you reinstall!
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Then I'll take the leap
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livinitwarrior said:
Then I'll take the leap
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Boom. Do it. Lemme know how it works out
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