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I have posted to these forums for a long time and I pay good attention to searching first and asking last. I also post in appropriate forums where others have discussed similar items.
Last night I posted a new thread about small text size in pie 6.1 on my fuze and it go moved from a new thread to some rom dev thread.
Can someone help me understand what I am doing to cause this?
huh?
can you send a link... and describe exactly what happened please?
Here is my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3302692&postcount=672
However, I clicked NEW THREAD not reply or quote.
well then, it probably happened because it was asked to post questions in a dedicated thread - as you can see from the thread's title.
Alright, thank you for your input. Seems like it inhibits answers without being able to start a thread in the appropriate area, instead my post got moved to a ROM dev thread and burried under 1600 posts.
Is there a problem with the community and now push back on allowing questions?
not at all. all questions regarding specific devices can go either here or in their dedicated sections..
but you should read the rules.. if there is a dedicated thread for questions, members are asked to use it so that the forum is not flooded.
there are so many new threads everyday we can't control it anymore.. so we're trying to collect.
Hi Dear Admin
Why can not I would post in this forum?
For example, the following forum threads:
Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development
Torres 9 said:
Hi Dear Admin
Why can not I would post in this forum?
For example, the following forum threads:
Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development
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Your post count is currently too low. You will be able to around 8 or 10 posts, no spam until then lmao. have fun and welcome aboard
I also cant post in the topic i want to ( darky's rom 9.3final )
i have a question i really want to ask there
I agree with these guys, it's not really a cool system we have to wait before asking questions.... it makes many days that I search the solution but I dont find it and I would like to post in a thread....
Same boat.
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mattlin32 said:
I agree with these guys, it's not really a cool system we have to wait before asking questions.... it makes many days that I search the solution but I dont find it and I would like to post in a thread....
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Guys,
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WAIT TO POST QUESTIONS
This is because questions DO NOT belong in the development forum. It is as simple as that. Let me define "not really cool". It's having to tell people NOT to post questions outwith the device Q&A section.
Post your questions THERE, NOWHERE ELSE.
Do NOT post questions in development.
Only posting in development is currently prevented. Make your thread in Q&A.
it makes many days that I search the solution
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- that's the point exactly. Search harder. The answer will be there. You just need to practice how to find it. Google is your friend.
getting there!
same... have to post 9 posts first, befere i can ask my question
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same... have to post 9 posts first, befere i can ask my question
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Read my post above.
You do not need 10 posts to post questions. Post it in the Q&A section for your device.
XDA policy selects the USELESS posts
XDA policy selects the USELESS posts
pulser_g2 said:
(Sun 06 Mar 2011 18:54 GMT)
Only posting in development is currently prevented. Make your thread in Q&A.
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IOW:
1) When we are new (to HD2 in my case), hence have a lot of issues with no clue, even no idea what to search exactly, and are willing to spend the time to find the exact forum, thread, post, to which we should ask a question (I did it, amply), we are FORBIDDEN to ask the relevant question in the appropriate, efficient, polite place and manner; instead, we have to post in a remote forum (Q & A), where all questions will end garbaged altogether with plenty unrelated others, and far away, both from the ones who could reply and from the ones who would like to second an existing question rather than posting a "new" one. Hence your policy is increasing the number of doubled or irrelevant questions, and refraining the people who are usually carefully, politely and efficiently writing their posts, while encouraging the Fast Posters (the ones who post faster than they can think or verify what they write).
2) Only when we finally have learnt (after lengthy and painful research in this unfriendly atmosphere) the information we need, hence only when we have no more questions, can we post in the relevant forums. But since the newer ones still CANNOT post there, our new knowledge can answer no question and no people, hence is useless to others. This explains why there are so many fundamental questions that are still plaguing many users after 2 years, with plenty threads addressing them without answering them (because missing the way the questions happen in new users' minds) but still no thread exposing them clearly and efficiently.
Versailles, Mon 07 Mar 2011 19:06:30 +0100, edited 19:11:20
"Google is your friend" only denotes people UNABLE to build an efficient search
"Google is your friend" only denotes people UNABLE to build an efficient search
pulser_g2 said:
(Sun 06 Mar 2011 18:54 GMT)
Search harder. The answer will be there. You just need to practice how to find it. Google is your friend.
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Most people are Scarce Posters, IOW do search a lot, intelligently and carefully, before asking a question on a forum; so while numerous, they remain little visible. OTOH, the Fast Posters (the ones who post faster than they can think or verify what they write), needing no time before posting, do post a lot, hence look as more numerous than they actually are; and of course they have not often really tried to build really efficient searches (or they would know it can be done only when you already know a significant amount about your seek).
The invisible majority (Scarce Posters) do know that Forums' Search Engines most often fail, and that searching a Forum from Google, sure can be much more efficient, yet only with informed and carefully built search requests. The ones who require visitors to "search" while giving neither help nor hint about how and what to search, belong to the vocal minority of "Fast Posters" and have generally NOT tried themselves - or they would know the above, hence would belong to the "Scarce Posters".
IOW, really helpful people don't reply "Google is your friend", instead they post, after trying, tweaking and testing it, the exact search to do, for instance Google "How to flash 6.5.3 ROM on HD2 site:xda-developers.com". And as you can see, this particular search request, as carefully designed as it may be, is still far from the right one(s), because when you need it, you usually DON'T KNOW YET what to search; here, when I designed this one, I STILL IGNORED that I needed to download and install a BOOTLOADER, an HSPL, a RADIO, a ROM (and which one: a "3.14"? a "1.66"? What are those?), and possibly a MANILA and some other stuffs.
IOW, when you have written the appropriate search request, your problem is already almost completely researched, thought, defined, and solved. When someone is asking something on a forum, the one replying "Google is your friend" is essentially someone who is UNABLE to build a helpful search request (or he would just post it). Requiring from the visitor to search before asking is just, despite the appearances, putting the cart before the horse: unrealistic, illogical, unhelpful, and counterproductive.
I think the great resources on XDA Forums are hampered by a bad case of NIH and Resistance to change.
Versailles, Mon 07 Mar 2011 19:13:00 +0100, edited 19:19:25
What about questions about specific custom ROMs? Should they also be posted in the General Q&A sections of the device?
pulser_g2 said:
Read my post above.
You do not need 10 posts to post questions. Post it in the Q&A section for your device.
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Lol.. Thanks.. This solve my problem..
Well, the problem with forming a good search term is that most of the useful text is not so well written as to be easily searched. You can spend all day sorting through search results, trying to kraft THE perfect query, and still miss the web page that gives you the answer you need.
Can someone tell me the reason why i need 10 posts to post in developer forum?
Greets
Probably because they don't want people creating accounts and spamming those forums right off the bat. Keeping the dev forums more focused on getting things working than general chat and I need help etc. Just my view on it.
I thought it's stupid too, but after I realised how stupid people can be, I think it's a good idea. Just answer for a few questions here and you will have the 10 really soon.
thanks for posting this question so I can add another post to sum up to 10 or more posts to finally be able to participate where I would like to Rhobuntu on HTC TP2.
So silly - now they move from Ubuntu to Debian squeeze which is what I have running on my computer and next week I should have an HTC TP2 available for development only. Just - I cannot post !
Oh and I forgot the 5 minutes rule...
Too bad there is no icon for i$$ed
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Oh and I forgot the 5 minutes rule...
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There is a five minute rule to? Thought I read all the rules.
ok, i've got 10 posts now.
i'm still not allowed to post there! why? i really need to ask some questions there!
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ok, i've got 10 posts now.
i'm still not allowed to post there! why? i really need to ask some questions there!
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Don't tell me that!!
I've been posting around Q&A to reach those 10 posts because I want to ask and help on dev forums... :-(
Well, almost there, let me see what topic I can participate and then, if I keep being "blocked" off-of the dev forums...
There are very good reasons why the 10 post rule has been set up, a couple of which have been said above.
Why do you need to post in the dev section anyway? Are you a developer? If you arent and you create a new thread (question) it will probably get moved here.
If you are asking a question, the Q&A is the place
#justsayin
is right to by like this
I meant NOT right
I have 10 posts, why I still cannot post in the dev forum? need to aks about my issue
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I have 10 posts, why I still cannot post in the dev forum? need to aks about my issue
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Because your ten posts were not helpful, they were spammy. And if you have a question, ask it in Q&A NOT Development. How hard is that to understand?
well, the question concerns a curtain app, so I would like to ask in the dev forum , where this ALREADY HAVE BEEN discussed in a special thread.
You might find that some of us here are quite knowledgable and therefore your answer could be easily obtained here without the need to post in the dev forums
Why dont you give it a go and ask here ?
Also, if your question has already been asked, there is in all probability an answer there; so eed to re-post the same question?
I can understand the rule but not your argument. What if he has been using an app that has its own topic in the dev forum and he wants to post a bug report or ask a question that hasn't been asked before. If it's about that specific thing it should go in that specific thread.
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I can understand the rule but not your argument. What if he has been using an app that has its own topic in the dev forum and he wants to post a bug report or ask a question that hasn't been asked before. If it's about that specific thing it should go in that specific thread.
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yes, you have a valid point. However i was trying to put forward the notion that far too many people post in the dev sections without properly researching first, hence the requirement for the 10 post rule.
Of course the OP may have a very genuine bug to report, if this is the case then can the OP let me know if he still cant postin dev and ill look into it.
timmymarsh said:
There are very good reasons why the 10 post rule has been set up, a couple of which have been said above.
Why do you need to post in the dev section anyway? Are you a developer? If you arent and you create a new thread (question) it will probably get moved here.
If you are asking a question, the Q&A is the place
#justsayin
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not 100% true. I mean, when you use a ROM sometimes you want to exchange ideas with other users, make questions and even report bugs / make suggestions. you may not be a developer but in some way, everyone can be a beta tester! it doesn't make sense to star opening Q&A for CyanogenMod7 if you have a proper place in Developers Forum... And that's why I had to answer 10 things around (useful answers!) to use that section of the forums...
by the way, i don't know if the posts have to be useful, but i had access immediately to the dev forums...
hi, i'm a new user from spain, i need 10 posts to write on developers forums, where is in that forum the noobs place! thanks
I think it's a good idea. Learn your way around before posting/rambling on a devs forum. Think before you Speak.
well guess the builder of this forum tried to keep people stay here longer...or what else?
I posted a question that received several threads telling me to read before posting and such. I would like you to know that since getting my phone Friday I have spent more than 18 hours on 8 different forums, reading and reading and trying different suggestions and when I posted here I just wanted something that would work or at least answer my question. NOT going to happen.
Quit your sniveling. You were told the proper way to conduct yourself in almost ANY internet forum, and that's to always do a search before posting. Someone posted a link to an existing thread, which means a search should have turned it up for you. Did you bother to look at that thread? Have you done any searches? Like I said, the problem with 3e recovery is well documented. I also told you to Odin back to stock and start over. Did you look into that? Drop the entitlement attitude and help yourself. Oh, and expect this thread to get locked, too.
there are helpful people on here, but with a huge number of posts people may have passed it over. if you acctually want help on whatever you were looking for would you post a link to your other thread so someone can answer that thread.
id be glad to link you to a specific answer. i know the forums are confusing, you really dont want to use the search at the top of the screen. find the appropriate section and search that forum or thread with "search this thread" or "search this forrum" next to where it says "forum tools" or "thread tools"
deb410s said:
I posted a question that received several threads telling me to read before posting and such. I would like you to know that since getting my phone Friday I have spent more than 18 hours on 8 different forums, reading and reading and trying different suggestions and when I posted here I just wanted something that would work or at least answer my question. NOT going to happen.
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Looks to me in the threads you posted in users helped you
To your point yes there are douche bags that spend more time lecturing others than actually contributing. That being said,what is your goal with this thread? As mentioned your question was answered on your other thread
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Why participate in any thread on xda when Ur a n00b like me?? surely, the normal thing non n00bs do is to just ignore? Every time I participate in any thread on xda I just get ignored because I'm a n00b. I'm sure I'm not the only one on the intranet that feels this way. Not a question just stating my thoughts about this website.
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Why participate in any thread on xda when Ur a n00b like me?? surely, the normal thing non n00bs do is to just ignore? Every time I participate in any thread on xda I just get ignored because I'm a n00b. I'm sure I'm not the only one on the intranet that feels this way. Not a question just stating my thoughts about this website.
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First, this forum isn't a help-desk or a support forum. This website is not here for us to help you, it is here for you to find your own answers and only ask when you cant find or dont understand the answers.
Second, most of the questions you've posted, already have solutions, if it's obvious that you haven't searched for them, most members won't answer because we don't spoonfeed people looking for answers. If you are searching and you are finding answers but don't understand the answers you find, it is still on you to do some researching about what you found in order to understand what it is that you found. Sometimes it takes days/weeks/months to figure out what things are and what they mean, even for members that are NOT noobs. Don't just spend a little time looking for answers and then come here asking questions just because you didn't understand what you found in the first few minutes of reading it. Do some google searches to understand what it is saying.
If you're looking for a place for someone to hold your hand or do the thinking and the work for you, XDA is not that place. We don't mind pointing someone in the right direction, just don't ask questions that have already been asked repeatedly, this shows that you haven't searched and seen where it was already asked, therefore, your question will be ignored. Don't ask simple questions that can be easily answered with a simple Google search, those also get ignored because it shows that you aren't willing to do your own searching.
When you are searching and you find information that you think is relevant to your needs, don't just jump the gun and try it, that is reckless and can lead to causing worse issues. You need to do deeper research about your specific device, your issue and it's potential solutions on order to understand exactly what will or won't work. Get more familiar with "what not to do" instead of "what to do" when you're attempting to modify a device.
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