[Q] What is considered normal screen battery percentage for 7.7? - Galaxy Tab 7.7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My screen battery percentage is around 70%. I am wondering if that is normal because on a screenshot I saw in another thread, the person's screen % was in the 40s. If it isn't normal, can someone help me with bring the the battery usage of the screen down? (My battery is being drained and I was wondering if it was the issue with the screen .) And sorry if I seem very noobie >_<.

The higher your screen percentage the better it is because it tells nothing else is draining your battery significantly. At 40%, there are other things that are running your battery dry aside from screen.
You could post a screen shot for others to see and advice.

Royaltiger said:
The higher your screen percentage the better it is because it tells nothing else is draining your battery significantly. At 40%, there are other things that are running your battery dry aside from screen.
You could post a screen shot for others to see and advice.
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Ohhh, I didn't know that. Thank you for telling me! However, now I wonder what is causing my battery to drain... especially when I am web browsing. Here is a screenshot of the battery usage on my system.

Royaltiger said:
The higher your screen percentage the better it is because it tells nothing else is draining your battery significantly. At 40%, there are other things that are running your battery dry aside from screen.
Interesting explanation...I didn't know this.
mine is running 80-90% all the time
Thanks for the info
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If you're rooted you can always clear battery stats in CWM. Some devices appear to perform better. Also check what's running in the background (processes). Disabling things like GPS can save battery. If you use TiBu, freezing unneeded apps can free up power and resources. If you venture into that, I would suggest doing one at a time to avoid freezing apps that your tab needs running. Google/search forum as I'm sure others have posted their experiences.
Just a few random thoughts....

x3ducky said:
Ohhh, I didn't know that. Thank you for telling me! However, now I wonder what is causing my battery to drain... especially when I am web browsing. Here is a screenshot of the battery usage on my system.
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I notice android media process consume your android battery. I am also wondering about android media and server process in my GT- 6800 with paranoid 2.55. Here are the process that help me out
try to delete all you music or picture files and back it up to you pc
unistall the game and try to install game one by one to see which game will consume your android media process
using terminal emulator to disable android process media. I refer to this site; http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=37199
1) have Android SDK installed on your laptop
2) enable debugging on your *rooted* device
3) connect it to you laptop via USB
4) adb shell
5) su
6) pm disable com.android.providers.media/com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerReceiver
It works for me and now I have no media process in system and media server consume reasonable memory. Thanks

skeeterpro said:
If you're rooted you can always clear battery stats in CWM. Some devices appear to perform better. Also check what's running in the background (processes). Disabling things like GPS can save battery. If you use TiBu, freezing unneeded apps can free up power and resources. If you venture into that, I would suggest doing one at a time to avoid freezing apps that your tab needs running. Google/search forum as I'm sure others have posted their experiences.
Just a few random thoughts....
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My tablet is rooted, but I don't know how to clear battery stats. However, I am currently using Battery Monitor Widget Pro and I see the calibration tab. Once again, I have no idea how to use the calibration thing on this app. And I disable GPS all the time, unless I really need to use it, which is hardly ever. As for TiBu, I don't know what that is. Is that Titanium Backup?

x3ducky said:
My tablet is rooted, but I don't know how to clear battery stats. However, I am currently using Battery Monitor Widget Pro and I see the calibration tab. Once again, I have no idea how to use the calibration thing on this app. And I disable GPS all the time, unless I really need to use it, which is hardly ever. As for TiBu, I don't know what that is. Is that Titanium Backup?
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If you have CWM installed then there is an option (from the menu) to clear your battery stats. If you don't have CWM then please download from the "development" section.

x3ducky said:
My tablet is rooted, but I don't know how to clear battery stats. However, I am currently using Battery Monitor Widget Pro and I see the calibration tab. Once again, I have no idea how to use the calibration thing on this app. And I disable GPS all the time, unless I really need to use it, which is hardly ever. As for TiBu, I don't know what that is. Is that Titanium Backup?
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Poke around in CWM. I believe it's under Advanced. And yes, TiBu is Titanium Backup.

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Battery

I know I've made a few posts about this in the past, but now I've learned a few things since then.
I know the battery isn't the greatest on the infuse (no rom that I'm using atm..) but would like to get the most juice out of my device that I can. I have root access and currently use the apps "battery calibration" and "no-frills CPU control" which I set my cpu at a relatively low frequency to help keep juice.
My phone is drained throughout my day, even without use. I believe it primarily happens because my data (mobile network) consumes it. I know apps such as "juice defender" are great at reducing idle drainage because it shuts off your network connection while in idle to save battery. However, I have used this application in the past and after a few days of use, it shuts off my mobile connection altogether.
My question is, if I were to use this application again and my mobile network were to malfunction, would I be able to change my apn to regain my network connection? In the past I had to reset my phone to regain connection, which isn't really worth using if that's the only solution.
Or are there any other battery saver apps worth using??
Thanks
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Dr_Nacho said:
I know I've made a few posts about this in the past, but now I've learned a few things since then.
I know the battery isn't the greatest on the infuse (no rom that I'm using atm..) but would like to get the most juice out of my device that I can. I have root access and currently use the apps "battery calibration" and "no-frills CPU control" which I set my cpu at a relatively low frequency to help keep juice.
My phone is drained throughout my day, even without use. I believe it primarily happens because my data (mobile network) consumes it. I know apps such as "juice defender" are great at reducing idle drainage because it shuts off your network connection while in idle to save battery. However, I have used this application in the past and after a few days of use, it shuts off my mobile connection altogether.
My question is, if I were to use this application again and my mobile network were to malfunction, would I be able to change my apn to regain my network connection? In the past I had to reset my phone to regain connection, which isn't really worth using if that's the only solution.
Or are there any other battery saver apps worth using??
Thanks
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A bit more information is needed before a specific course of action can be recommended. How much battery life are you using in an average 24 hour period? Also, what version of Juice Defender(beta, free, plus, ultimate) are you using, and what specific settings are you utilizing. It is a very customizable program after all. You might look into Battery Indicator Pro, which estimates your total remaining battery life based on your level of usage. I would also recommend CPU spy, which, if your device is rooted, will show the percentages that your device is running at various CPU levels.
If you turn off all the locational stuff, turn off 'update my current location' in Navigator, and set your CPU gov to conservative, you might get better battery life. I've not had any lasting luck with any of the battery saving apps. In the end, I decided to buy a couple of Anker batteries from Amazon just in case I have a bad battery day... Also some of the battery saving mods work, but I'm not sure about applying them to ICS and JB ROMS. I haven't tried!
Battery life is what you make of it..
Anything running in the background will drain the battery.. email constantly checking for new messages, twitter, Facebook, GPS, WiFi if no connection is found, etc..
Anything that makes the phone process even while the screen is off is going to kill a battery..
What ROM are you using? Some ROMs have better life than others..
How much are you actually using the phone?
What's the brightness set at?
Have you tried changing the processor and slowed it down?
Lots of information that is missing is helpful..
Its powered by Jellybeaned AOKP!
I know apps such as "juice defender" are great at reducing idle drainage because it shuts off your network connection while in idle to save battery
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Some have good luck with these, others don’t. I prefer to try to adjust settings myself.
I believe it primarily happens because my data (mobile network) consumes it.
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How about putting a widget on your homescreen to toggle data on/off. Keep it on only when you need it. I go a step further, I use Tasker to automatically turn my data off every time my screen times out (because that means I’m not using it... I can restart my data later with my widget when I need it). Maybe that’s extreme, but I’m not just watching my battery.. I’m managing my limited data plan.
My phone is drained throughout my day, even without use.
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It may be that you have wakelocks keeping your phone awake when it’s supposed to sleep. One way to see this is (in GB or above) Settings / About-Phone / Battery Use...then click on the small graph at the top... should expand it to a large graph with traces along the bottom including Awake and Screen On. If you have long periods of time where phone is awake while screen is off, that’s a wakelock problem. A good program to troubleshoot that is Better Battery Stats. If nothing else, follow the instructions in the first post in the BBS thread linked below, and then post a dump to the end of that BBS thread (the developer and a lot of other knowledgeable people follow that thread and will help you interpret results):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Thru use of BBS, I found that Google Maps is one that was keeping mine awake and I think someone else on the forum reported the same. If that program (Maps) is causing problems, you can disable it from auto-starting on boot using Gemini Manager. It will still be available when you need it, just take a few seconds longer to load the first time after boot. Then need to reboot to stop it from causing wakelocks after use (there may be other easier ways, but this works for me).
Another program (Power Tutor) was helpful to me to see programs that were consuming unusual amount of battery although not necessarily thru wakelocks. In my case Dolphin Browser HD was occasionally drawing very high power even when that program was not actively in use.
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I found that Google Maps is one that was keeping mine awake and I think someone else on the forum reported the same. If that program (Maps) is causing problems, you can disable it from auto-starting on boot using Gemini Manager. It will still be available when you need it, just take a few seconds longer to load the first time after boot. Then need to reboot to stop it from causing wakelocks after use (there may be other easier ways, but this works for me).
Another program (Power Tutor) was helpful to me to see programs that were consuming unusual amount of battery although not necessarily thru wakelocks. In my case Dolphin Browser HD was occasionally drawing very high power even when that program was not actively in use.
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So how can I stop maps to running in background? only rebooting the device is the only option?or is there any other option?
TIA
atrix4nag said:
So how can I stop maps to running in background? only rebooting the device is the only option?or is there any other option?
TIA
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Just to provide more details on my previous post (not sure if it's answering your question):
I followed instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29420959&postcount=7059
In particular, I installed the free program "Gemini Apps Manager". That allows you to stop programs from auto-loading at boot.
So I used the program to stopp Google Maps from auto-loading at boot.
That stopped a large chunk of my wakelocks, as long as I don't manually launch Google Maps.
If I do manually Google Maps, then those wakelocks come back, and to get rid of them I have to reboot.
I don't use Maps that often (only when I go on trips), so it's not a big problem for me to reboot when I'm finished with my trip to help keep my battery use low.
It may also be possible to kill it from the list of applications at Settings/Applications/ManageApplications and killing botht the application and the process...but I'm not sure if it will stay killed that way... haven't tried. I know some applications have hooks that make it hard to get rid of them once they're launched.
But (if you haven't already), I think it's a good idea to use BBS to find out what programs are causing problems on your phone. You may have other apps causing lot bigger problems than Maps. And it certainly may be the case that a program that acts up on one phone can be fine on another phone due to differences in the way the user configures the application settings and the phone settings (along with other possible differences in application version, ROM used, etc etc).
electricpete1 said:
Just to provide more details on my previous post (not sure if it's answering your question):
I followed instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29420959&postcount=7059
In particular, I installed the free program "Gemini Apps Manager". That allows you to stop programs from auto-loading at boot.
So I used the program to stopp Google Maps from auto-loading at boot.
That stopped a large chunk of my wakelocks, as long as I don't manually launch Google Maps.
If I do manually Google Maps, then those wakelocks come back, and to get rid of them I have to reboot.
I don't use Maps that often (only when I go on trips), so it's not a big problem for me to reboot when I'm finished with my trip to help keep my battery use low.
It may also be possible to kill it from the list of applications at Settings/Applications/ManageApplications and killing botht the application and the process...but I'm not sure if it will stay killed that way... haven't tried. I know some applications have hooks that make it hard to get rid of them once they're launched.
But (if you haven't already), I think it's a good idea to use BBS to find out what programs are causing problems on your phone. You may have other apps causing lot bigger problems than Maps. And it certainly may be the case that a program that acts up on one phone can be fine on another phone due to differences in the way the user configures the application settings and the phone settings (along with other possible differences in application version, ROM used, etc etc).
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Thanks for your detail explanation. My main question was how can close the app without restarting? i feel my major battery drain is from dolphin browser, befor dolphin i used opera, even that has the same problem. Most of the time, if I dont open dolphin, my phone battery is good, but once I open it, it drains battery. So i am looking for soemthing simple which does, without rebooting the device.
Any way thanks for your help.

[Q] Help! Google app is draining my battery!

Hi guys,
In the last few days google app is draining my battery. It is disabled for wake up and keep awake in privacy mode, I tried to calibrate the battery, nothing helps. Even when I put it on flight mode, the draining is insane!
I attached screenshots.
My phone is not rooted, and I cannot root it.
Thank you all in advance!
I uninstalled it. I do not ise the cards and voice assitant plus I am an old fashioned guy, using search function in Chrome. By the way I saw other people having this issue, but don't know if it was resolved.
Yeah same for me, mine has been draining so fast when the phone is idle too! I'm running xnph05q cm11.
Maya2015 said:
Hi guys,
In the last few days google app is draining my battery. It is disabled for wake up and keep awake in privacy mode, I tried to calibrate the battery, nothing helps. Even when I put it on flight mode, the draining is insane!
I attached screenshots.
My phone is not rooted, and I cannot root it.
Thank you all in advance!
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Uninstall the update of Google App for few days, that is restoring it to factory version
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Uninstall the update of Google App for few days, that is restoring it to factory version
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Thanks. I will try that.
I have other major battery drain problem, even when the phone is idle.
Chrome is a big battery drain, even when I barely use it, and also android system and Android os.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
jkentj said:
Yeah same for me, mine has been draining so fast when the phone is idle too! I'm running xnph05q cm11.
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Uninstall the app update which is causing battery drain. Use it for some day using factory version of the app. If problem not resolved, report back here
Maya2015 said:
Thanks. I will try that.
I have other major battery drain problem, even when the phone is idle.
Chrome is a big battery drain, even when I barely use it, and also android system and Android os.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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For chrome, you can do the same thing as suggested above
Android OS and Android System.. You can't do anything with it.. If you play with them, you'll end up making your system malfunctioning..
Mr hOaX said:
Uninstall the app update which is causing battery drain. Use it for some day using factory version of the app. If problem not resolved, report back here
For chrome, you can do the same thing as suggested above
Android OS and Android System.. You can't do anything with it.. If you play with them, you'll end up making your system malfunctioning..
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Thanks.
So do you suggest to uninstall updates only for a few days and then update it again from Google play?
BTW I have another wiered thing, I am on battery saving, GPS is off, and when I go to battery usage, it shows GPS on...
Mr hOaX said:
Uninstall the app update which is causing battery drain. Use it for some day using factory version of the app. If problem not resolved, report back here
For chrome, you can do the same thing as suggested above
Android OS and Android System.. You can't do anything with it.. If you play with them, you'll end up making your system malfunctioning..
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Uninstall the update of Google App for few days, that is restoring it to factory version
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Hi there,
Until I will have a report regarding your previous suggestion, can you please take a look at my screenshots and tell me why the GPS is always on when I am on battery saving all the time?
Something is draining my battery, I get only 2:30 SOT, in the best case, without games videos music or even phone calls.
Thanks a lot!
Maya2015 said:
Hi there,
Until I will have a report regarding your previous suggestion, can you please take a look at my screenshots and tell me why the GPS is always on when I am on battery saving all the time?
Something is draining my battery, I get only 2:30 SOT, in the best case, without games videos music or even phone calls.
Thanks a lot!
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As you have not rooted your bacon, only thing I can suggest you is that with the help of Privacy Settings, disable access for wake up and keep awake for the apps which are not oftenly used and also Google Play Services
Battery saver mode disables background services of the apps and lowers done the device performance
Combination of above stuffs can help you increase your battery life to some extend
Your GPS is not always ON as seen from the chart
Mr hOaX said:
As you have not rooted your bacon, only thing I can suggest you is that with the help of Privacy Settings, disable access for wake up and keep awake for the apps which are not oftenly used and also Google Play Services
Battery saver mode disables background services of the apps and lowers done the device performance
Combination of above stuffs can help you increase your battery life to some extend
Your GPS is not always ON as seen from the chart
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Hi,
I already disabled wake up and keep awake for google services, google app, and other apps, nothing helps..

Need help on battery life and CPU usage

I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 and the battery was doing fine. A few weeks ago the phone started getting quite slow and the battery life went way down. I had installed a few apps around then, so I removed them and still battery life was bad. I tried restarting the phone and that didn't help. At the time I was running Marshmellow and I was using OSMonitor to watch the system. I was finding that Android OS was taking most of my battery and 30% of the CPU all of the time. Not long after that Nougat became available and I upgraded thinking that might help. It didn't help and OSMonitor no longer worked. I switched to GSam Battery Monitor and used adb to give it the permissions to see all app information. I'm still finding that the Kernel is taking 28% of my battery and Android System is taking 37% of my battery and I can't figure out why. I would rather not need to do a full reset and install all of my apps and settings again, so I'm asking if anyone out there has ideas on things to try and fix this. This is a non-rooted phone running the stock image from Samsung/Verizon.
Thanks for any help.
try activate the Battery Saving option and use it for a day and see if helps
I've had this happen to me before. The phone was getting seriously hot while it was happening too. I decided to do all I can without doing a factory reset (I was on vacation at the time, so no access to something to backup my data).
I cleared the cache of all apps. Then I disabled all of the stock apps I didn't need (like Gear VR). I also shuttered apps running in the background to about a max of 3 apps open at any given time. That stopped the insane heat issue, but Android System was still sucking 30% of the battery. I turned off Always On Display, that got me down to about 25%. A factory reset got the phone down to around 10%, and I never saw the issue again.
Before you do that I would recommend checking out this thread below as there does appear to be a bunch of other possible solutions provided by others.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/how-experiencing-android-battery-drain-t3327730/page51
Djuganight said:
try activate the Battery Saving option and use it for a day and see if helps
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But then my background syncing is turned off too...
I didn't need this before, so wondering why I should need it now.
I had same issues and was able to fix it. See the following thread for details.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=71558514
Try this , it helped me a lot .
Download from the XDA forums the Kernel named : "Apollo Kernel" v7
Just flash it , and when you install it , if you dont use your phone for high end games or hard work,that requires high end specs , then you can underclock the cpu/gpu .
It s a battery life saver, plus , your components will be much better in terms of thermals/life

Update and its problems..

In fact, after the last update, the performance became faster and smoother. The programs quickly opened up. That's good.
but unfortunately the battery is draining more quickly.
And heat during charging has returned ?⁦⁩
I am on Security patch - 1 November 2018 as well.
And as soon as the phone restarted after the backup, the memory card showed up "corrupted" / Format to fix or use the card - error.
Thankfully, google photos backup saved the data..
But, this is bad.
Edit- Yes, Charging is really rapid.. and heats up the phone significantly more than before..
I have been in contact with Nokia's support department and said that the battery's rapid discharge is due to the adaptive battery. This will take a week or two to learn and then the battery will return as it was before
Emad tober said:
I have been in contact with Nokia's support department and said that the battery's rapid discharge is due to the adaptive battery. This will take a week or two to learn and then the battery will return as it was before
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I did a factory reset and the draining is gone immediately, so I don't think they're right
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I did a factory reset and the draining is gone immediately, so I don't think they're right
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And I also think that because I am not convinced.
Factory reset seems to be the best thing we do after every update.
Emad tober said:
And I also think that because I am not convinced.
Factory reset seems to be the best thing we do after every update.
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Why don't try this?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-7-plus/how-to/how-to-fix-android-pie-problems-t3874455
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Why don't try this?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-7-plus/how-to/how-to-fix-android-pie-problems-t3874455
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Thanks. Support team Provide the following advice: while the screen is on. Press the Volume Up button + Power button for at least 10 seconds until I feel a vibration.
(The charger is unplugged). This is called a soft restart. I think the problem has been solved
Emad tober said:
In fact, after the last update, the performance became faster and smoother. The programs quickly opened up. That's good.
but unfortunately the battery is draining more quickly.
And heat during charging has returned ⁦⁩
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Remove unwanted apps and wanted apps, have only system apps and 2 or 3 installed apps. Phone won't heat. And this is how I keep my phone cool. Bad apps makes heating issue, for instance if I install klwp app and give access to contact and phone calls log. Phone will get warm. Or remove unwanted permissions for all the installed apps and see if it helps.
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Remove unwanted apps and wanted apps, have only system apps and 2 or 3 installed apps. Phone won't heat. And this is how I keep my phone cool. Bad apps makes heating issue, for instance if I install klwp app and give access to contact and phone calls log. Phone will get warm. Or remove unwanted permissions for all the installed apps and see if it helps.
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i suggest also get in settings/battery/adaptive, keep auto switch, but ALSO manually restrict ALL apps you don't need work in background...
I think the adaptive battery affects performance and does not help improve the battery. So i've disabled it and put all the programs in the list of blocked apps.that will help to save the battery.
Now i have the best performance...
Has anyone observed apps refreshing very often when multi-tasking. This issue is happening post-November update.
I love this phone. But now I'm having trouble freezing the screen. very annoying

Question Did anyone notice the huge standby battery drain? Any way to measure what causes it?

First off, I love the phone and I'll keep it, but ever since I got the phone I've been wondering why it's draining so much in standby. It's my first Samsung phone since 2011, so naturally I assume it's Samsung apps/services that drain? Especially since I don't use any new apps than on my other phones and in the battery stats it doesn't really show any user apps that use a lot.
Anyone has way to measure what system/user apps drain during standby? Or even better, any dev that could do a deeper dive into this?
For example, I just lost 32% battery while sleeping for about 8h, it has never been this much on any other of my previous phones (OnePlus Nord/Pixel 3a/Pixel 3/Pixel 2).
In fact, my OnePlus Nord with 815mAh more than the Flip3 is currently on last charge 3 days ago (it doesn't show me hours anymore) and 2h35m SOT and 25% battery left. On the Flip I just now got 17h with 1h30m SOT and 5% left. Settings all similar besides location accuracy turned off for the Flip as that was a massive drain.
Something must be unintentionally draining the battery during standby and I really hope one of you smart guys can find it. Or Samsung fixes it with an update..
I disabled AOD and any unnecessary account sync processes. It's only drained about 2% in standby the last 5 hours, but there are still some things to finish configuring.
twistedumbrella said:
I disabled AOD and any unnecessary account sync processes. It's only drained about 2% in standby the last 5 hours, but there are still some things to finish configuring.
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If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
M4-NOOB said:
If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
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How old is your device? You got to give it some time to settle. I had 15% battery drain the first night, after that it went down to 5%.
M4-NOOB said:
If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
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The first step in improving the battery is to remember that this isn't any other phone. You may want to explore what options are available and what all you have enabled. By default, almost everything is on to show off all the cool new features that make this a Flip 3, not a OnePlus Nord.
ione2380 said:
How old is your device? You got to give it some time to settle. I had 15% battery drain the first night, after that it went down to 5%.
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Got it 4 days ago
twistedumbrella said:
The first step in improving the battery is to remember that this isn't any other phone. You may want to explore what options are available and what all you have enabled. By default, almost everything is on to show off all the cool new features that make this a Flip 3, not a OnePlus Nord.
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Which Flip features are in use during standby though? During standby it's just another phone
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Which Flip features are in use during standby though? During standby it's just another phone
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Not true. Samsung has a bunch of features still in use.
Settings -> Advanced features -> Motions and gestures has a whole collection of things that are still running when the screen is off (and most aren't useful to the Flip, but came from "another phone").
Settings -> Cover screen allows you to disable turning on the screen when notifications arrive, if that is not something you need.
Also, unless you are using the app to lower the refresh rate, you may be running a bit high when idle.
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Settings -> Advanced features -> Motions and gestures has a whole collection of things that are still running when the screen is off (and most aren't useful to the Flip, but came from "another phone").
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I've turned a few things off there, but a lot of them OnePlus has too + a few more, which I had all enabled
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Settings -> Cover screen allows you to disable turning on the screen when notifications arrive, if that is not something you need.
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I didn't really get any notification during last night, so I doubt this was the culprit
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Also, unless you are using the app to lower the refresh rate, you may be running a bit high when idle.
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Yes I'm using that app and have it set to 48-96Hz
Appreciate the help, I believe there must be something that's unintentionally draining and while I went through every single setting in the beginning, I'm still very new to OneUI (and also impressed how far it came from the TouchWiz ****show)
One thing I always forget is that a lot of those features are running services and polling when they're enabled. Even though I'm not touching the screen with the tap to wake enabled, it's constantly waiting for that tap when it's asleep. Any one isn't a big impact, but Samsung has so many "convenience" features that I end up wasting battery to never use.
The calibration period is also horrible. Android 11 is slow to calibrate the battery and Samsung is worse. You can get a good idea of what is draining battery by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery. That may help find out if it's a renegade app.
One thing Asus does that I wish Samsung would embrace is Auto-start management. Some apps aren't efficient at polling for notifications and more than once have been the cause of major drain.
Another one even Samsung admits to be a source of drain is the edge panels. If you don't use them, it's best to kill the entire feature.
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Even though I'm not touching the screen with the tap to wake enabled, it's constantly waiting for that tap when it's asleep. Any one isn't a big impact, but Samsung has so many "convenience" features that I end up wasting battery to never use.
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I just assumed it's not a big impact as OnePlus has those as well, for example draw a "V" on screen for flashlight or ">" to skip song besides the regular double tap to wake and it never appeared to be a battery issue for me before.
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You can get a good idea of what is draining battery by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery. That may help find out if it's a renegade app.
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Do I assume correctly that some system apps or similar are hidden there? I just did the calculations and the percentages only make up 43.6%. I attached a screenshot
M4-NOOB said:
I just assumed it's not a big impact as OnePlus has those as well, for example draw a "V" on screen for flashlight or ">" to skip song besides the regular double tap to wake and it never appeared to be a battery issue for me before.
Do I assume correctly that some system apps or similar are hidden there? I just did the calculations and the percentages only make up 43.6%. I attached a screenshot
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OnePlus also optimizes them better than brand new Samsung firmware. I had a lot of stuff enabled on the Note 20 Ultra that I won't be using for a month or two now.
Some apps are excluded, but it will let you know if it's something not included with the phone.
Another good idea is to uninstall, disable, or "adb uninstall" any bloat you don't use. Besides clearing up space in the app drawer, it kills off services you don't use. A lot of the apps will run services even before you sign in, even though they aren't actually handling any data.
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Another good idea is to uninstall, disable, or "adb uninstall" any bloat you don't use. Besides clearing up space in the app drawer, it kills off services you don't use. A lot of the apps will run services even before you sign in, even though they aren't actually handling any data.
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I already went through the list and uninstalled which I 100% knew what it was and that it's not needed, but not sure about 99% of Samsung stuff. Some Samsung apps on the phone I don't even know what they are and when I start them it just prompts to agree to some terms before starting the app... I'll have a look around for a Samsung debloat list
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I already went through the list and uninstalled which I 100% knew what it was and that it's not needed, but not sure about 99% of Samsung stuff. Some Samsung apps on the phone I don't even know what they are and when I start them it just prompts to agree to some terms before starting the app... I'll have a look around for a Samsung debloat list
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If you have the unlocked version, they allowed uninstall for a lot of apps that were previously locked. A lot can also be downloaded later from Google Play or the Galaxy Store if you change your mind.
I use Firefox, so I uninstall Samsung Internet and Chrome. Members and Health are two big ones that like to run those "please enable us" services. It's a lot of deciding what you might use versus what you can live without.
Another good idea is to add anything you won't use, but didn't remove to deep sleeping apps to kill it's ability to run in the background. It's the closest thing to auto start management without rooting.
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Another good idea is to add anything you won't use, but didn't remove to deep sleeping apps to kill it's ability to run in the background. It's the closest thing to auto start management without rooting.
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Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Thank you for taking the time, mine is also going down %30 overnight. would love to hear about your result.
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Thank you for taking the time, mine is also going down %30 overnight. would love to hear about your result.
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So far I don't have much hope sadly. Whole day currently at home and not using the phone much and it's looking like in the screenshot (screen off, loosing almost 2.7% per hour, as comparison my OnePlus is at 0.9% per hour)
https://imgur.com/RLITZwQ
It's 21:21 at the moment and I'm at 54% after 9h 42m (comparison OnePlus with 815mAh more: 7% after 79h with 2h54m SOT)
https://imgur.com/M9zO2hV
I'll probably head to bed in a few hours and then report back tomorrow morning how much I lost during the night..
I'm not claiming to have amazing battery life, since I almost considered keeping my trade-in and returning this one over it. I am interested why it is so bad for others, though.
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I'm not claiming to have amazing battery life, since I almost considered keeping my trade-in and returning this one over it. I am interested why it is so bad for others, though.
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HOLY **** I would love to have this battery life. I'm literally not doing anything with the phone and just loosing so much. I'm pretty much the opposite of a power user, so my phone is in standby most of the time and loosing so much is pretty frustrating.
EDIT: I might have an idea why it's so bad for me, I don't really have reception in my apartment (as you can see on my screenshots), so I assume it's constantly trying to get better receptions, I see 2 bars sometimes, but most of the time 0. I'll keep my phone at the window where I have reception for the rest of the day and see if it makes a difference. (Although the OnePlus has also bad reception, but does have a different carriers SIM card)
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Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Dependencies, dependencies, dependencies... some of those apks just sit there unless needed.
Do not disable apks/services unless you know what they do and what, if any, their dependencies are. Go too far and you'll end up in a boot loop.
What works for others probably isn't ideal for you.
Package Disabler is a better option as you easily toggle apks on/off as needed.
Screen off the serial offenders tend to be Google backup Transport, Framework and any cloud apps.
Try disabling Google play Services at night and see if that helps. You may need to disable Find my Device first as System Administrator if disable is greyed out.
Disabling play services also kills Gmaps and Playstore which are know hogs. Gmail as well to a lesser extent.
Google Firebase, do you need it? If not disable.
Carrier, Google, Samsung and app feedback, disable.
Using power management can cause erratic behavior and not solve the problem. Treat each power hog on a case by case basis instead. It takes a lot longer but yields a cleaner, more stable setup.
Play with it, go through -all- the settings. It's actually quit fun to explore and almost impossible to crash and burn.
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