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I'm getting the TF300 tomorrow. Is it safe to assume that that TF300 is one of the easier tablets to unlock and put a custom rom onto?
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I'm getting the TF300 tomorrow. Is it safe to assume that that TF300 is one of the easier tablets to unlock and put a custom rom onto?
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First of all this should be in the questions section. Second root is one-click and unlocking the device is done by simply installing the asus app and voiding your warranty.
Some questions
Sorry, I know that post isn't in de right section, but I have some questions with the same subject.
So, If I do root there is NO warrenty any more? even if it is a hardware problemem or somme thing like that?
Can somme one tell me please, wat is de max capacity of the usb reader, I mean, can I put a flash driver with 64GB for example?
The tab have a microSD port, I thing, but the docking have also a SD reader, so we can use 2 cards (one MicroSD 32Gb and one SD 16 Gb for example) together? If YES, how can i know were I'm writing my file, in internal, MicroSD or SD card?
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I don't have the tab yet, I want to be sure if these tab will answer all my needs. Tanks
the internal storage is saved in /sdcard. MicroSD is in /Removable/MicroSD. I'd imagine SD card would be in /Removable/SD or something to that effect.
Tanks... But and about the flash driver... Wat is the maximum capacity, the tab read how much max?
Sorry for that ugly English
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Maxwelbel said:
Tanks... But and about the flash driver... Wat is the maximum capacity, the tab read how much max?
Sorry for that ugly English
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Manufacturer says 32gb. Some users have reported success with 64gb. I assume you are referring to the "microSD Slot" on the tablet itself.
Yes, tanks... But there is also a 2.0 USB on docking, so can I, normally put a pen drive? And how much is the limit of the pen drive?
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The flash drive/pen drive slot is on the keyboard dock which is sold separately from the tablet. With the dock though, yes, you can put in a flash drive. I believe the limit is 32gb, but again, it's possible that it may accept larger sizes like 64gb. I haven't tried putting anything bigger than that though.
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Well I got the TF300 today. I have to say it is by far one of the fastest if not the fastest tablet I have used. And I have used at least 5 in the last few months. And it has no backlight bleed which was my main concern. So far I am liking what I am seeing. The only thing that concerns me now is, no gorilla glass. I hope this thing has some sort of scratch resistant screen. Also why only the one speaker on the right side that is kinda lame. I can totally tell listening to stuff that sound is only coming from one side. Ok back to more testing...
I have just bought an ASUS TF300 and apps can't be moved. Reading online, people say its because ICS doesn't allow it - so what happens when the DS gets ICS?
Not true. Search the net. For example:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-vivid/163799-apps-sd-ics.html
And even if it was true - with 1.1GB of internal memory, why would anyone care? And why would anyone want to move the apps to SD even now?
At least in the versions i tried, there is no switch to allow it/do it automatically, but in the memory -settings there is a utility that 1 clean the cache, 2 move apps 2 sd/remove apps, and 3 remove older messages.
Seen and used on ice cream saga and ice-ds
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Jack_R1 said:
Not true. Search the net. For example:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-vivid/163799-apps-sd-ics.html
And even if it was true - with 1.1GB of internal memory, why would anyone care? And why would anyone want to move the apps to SD even now?
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To save space from the internal storage maybe?
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userdesires said:
To save space from the internal storage maybe?
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Save space for what? For having unused internal space and having your apps load much slower and experiencing multiple bugs when mounting/unmounting SD card, like "disappearing" apps?
Having lots of empty (wasted) internal space, taking unnecessary space from SD card and making the system work worse than it can is a great and smart idea, right? Or maybe not. Just like having zillion MB of free RAM. What can you do with free RAM? You can't eat it, it doesn't generate money, and it doesn't do anything useful - just sits there, eating phone's electrical charge and not working. Or, in other word, being wasted.
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Save space for what? For having unused internal space and having your apps load much slower and experiencing multiple bugs when mounting/unmounting SD card, like "disappearing" apps?
Having lots of empty (wasted) internal space, taking unnecessary space from SD card and making the system work worse than it can is a great and smart idea, right? Or maybe not. Just like having zillion MB of free RAM. What can you do with free RAM? You can't eat it, it doesn't generate money, and it doesn't do anything useful - just sits there, eating phone's electrical charge and not working. Or, in other word, being wasted.
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Perhaps I am ignorant, but I understood the more free RAM the better, eg the faster. Not so?
It appears from the replies that there are clunky work arounds, but in essence, yes, in ICS there is no Apps to SD. I better hope I have less than 1GB of Apps then
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Perhaps I am ignorant, but I understood the more free RAM the better, eg the faster. Not so?
It appears from the replies that there are clunky work arounds, but in essence, yes, in ICS there is no Apps to SD. I better hope I have less than 1GB of Apps then
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This you understood wrong. Free ram is wasted ram.
And for apps2sd, of course it works in ICS. Some apps do that even without asking so I have to move them manually back to internal mem.
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Steinhund said:
Some apps do that even without asking so I have to move them manually back to internal mem.
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This is one of the most annoying things about apps2sd, in Gingerbread also. Even if I force the apps by setting pmInstallLocation to internal, those of them defined by their creator in Manifest as "prefer to SD" won't obey - and each update I have to move them back to internal. Very annoying.
The question is simple and the answer is simple too.
Apps in SD, running slow and buggy and after reboot, it might missing sometimes. The only advantage are, it saves internal storage and no need to install apps after reset. Correct me If I'm wrong.
Now close this thread for good.
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NOT TRUE AT ALL!
This is the Android 4.0.4&sense 3.6 for Desire S(OTA,HTC China).
Obviously,it supports move the apps to sdcard.
anazhd said:
The question is simple and the answer is simple too.
Apps in SD, running slow and buggy and after reboot, it might missing sometimes. The only advantage are, it saves internal storage and no need to install apps after reset. Correct me If I'm wrong.
Now close this thread for good.
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I agree, what a pointless thread!
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merlinfury said:
I agree, what a pointless thread!
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Thanks. When I have time I will hunt down the various threads from a year or so back saying what a good thing moving apps was and how beneficial it was to the phone's operation.
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Thanks. When I have time I will hunt down the various threads from a year or so back saying what a good thing moving apps was and how beneficial it was to the phone's operation.
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Yes, at wildfire, desire and such devices, because they had pretty small internal storage that got filled pretty fast. The ds has enough internal storage and if you're not using at least a class 6 sd it will slow the moved apps down, so my advice stay with internal you won't ever fill it except you install about 300 - 500 apps (depending how much games are included not using the sd).
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Tectas said:
Yes, at wildfire, desire and such devices, because they had pretty small internal storage that got filled pretty fast. The ds has enough internal storage and if you're not using at least a class 6 sd it will slow the moved apps down, so my advice stay with internal you won't ever fill it except you install about 300 - 500 apps (depending how much games are included not using the sd).
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I disagree; with many games now coming with 1.5gb of data needed this question is entirely relevant.
In fact on ics the move to sd function is disabled. Can provide a ss if needed. Samsung and a few other manufacturers have also confirmed this.
Just my 2pence.
very good job answering the OP's question all. games and apps nowadays are using around 50MB by default (i'm looking at you chrome, grabatron, and google play music), sometimes with additional space being used for on-device caching. at that rate, even with 2GB on-device storage, 20-40 solid modern apps could eat that up in no time, and i know that there are apps out there that take up more space than normal (webster's dictionary (300MB), friggin' MYST (700MB), etc). whats worse, google lifted the market restriction for apps all the way up to 4GB earlier this year. go ahead and try to imagine a 4GB app on 2GB of internal storage.
once you fill up internal storage, your phone will stop doing the things you like it to do, like download text messages, sync email, and keep apps up to date. apps on SD is a real need for some persons. apps2sd or link2sd are good options for apps that you don't use frequently or that don't require extreme speed to complete (like titanium backup, which runs on a schedule once a week in the middle of the night; i really don't care how long it takes to load).
and now the bad news. on some (perhaps most) ics devices (like the optimus 4x and galaxy s3), the ability to move apps to SD is just completely gone. any sd card app mover you install will tell you this and will refuse to do anything. this is because the ROM is configured to use the SD card as secondary storage (it's mounted at /mnt/sdcard/external_sd instead of /mnt/sdcard, and also perhaps formatted differently?).
grain of salt time. my phone has 1.4GB internal storage free. at what point do i start getting worried and consider moving apps to SD? i'd say 100MB is a good time to think about alternative storage, or cleaning out old apps. but, that's just me. i'm not a huge storage user, but do consider the possibility that someone will want that feature.
Ics not supporting moving applications to external sd card
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i have just bought an asus tf300 and apps can't be moved. Reading online, people say its because ics doesn't allow it - so what happens when the ds gets ics?
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idiot google has removed the feature apps2sd from ics and upwards versions.
big apps (games) are automatically installed on sd card
I've seen a few posts about people saying the NAND controller in the TF700 is slow and that is what causes a number of performance issues. Is this NAND in charge of both the internal and external cards or did they select a poor one just for the internal memory and went with a better quality controller for the external?
One reason I'm asking is that I saw a few people under the CleanROM thread mention that they moved a bunch of their apps over to a fast USH-1 MicroSD and it make a huge difference. But, if the controller was slow and shared across all cards, then that shouldn't help as the bottleneck would still be there. So, are they mistaken or does moving apps (Data2SD was the app they mentioned allowing them to do this) alleviate performance issues?
If it did alleviate issues, couldn't we use this to our advantage and install the OS to a USH-1 card and use internal memory for storage only? Or, come up with a good way to strategically place all applications on the available storage card as a part of rom installation.
OR, people are wrong and there's no way performance could be improved as the NAND is shared.
Can anyone speak to this?
I think one of the advantages is that the USH-1 cards are much faster than the NAND memory in the TF700. I plan on picking one up when time permits to find out for myself.
However I'll admit I have no real understanding of how it works. Many seem to be supporting it though, and I think Scott plans to implement it into his kernel so there must be something to it.
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You must be talking about the Data2SD mod in the development section.
I'm planning on doing this when my Sandisk 64gig UHS1 card gets to me.
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You must be talking about the Data2SD mod in the development section.
I'm planning on doing this when my Sandisk 64gig UH1 card gets to me.
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I guess maybe I'm mixing up terminology or what I've read.
I thought what people were saying is slow, wasn't the memory in the TF700, but the memory controller that manages the memory. I've seen people say "NAND Chipset", as saying that the specific chipset is cheap and they should have went with a higher quality.
Now, if the controller is not bad but hey went with cheap and slow memory, then this makes much more sense. Using that mod to move apps to a UH1 card would drastically improve performance. I also ordered one (this morning) from Amazon which should get in tomorrow. From there it sounds like I'll be playing with that mod.
I'm more interested in the performance bump than extra storage.
Is this the proper card?
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=3695074&pid=1218427115873
If so, its a great deal.
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Biohazard0289 said:
I'm more interested in the performance bump than extra storage.
Is this the proper card?
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=3695074&pid=1218427115873
If so, its a great deal.
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This is what I ordered:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...treme pro uhs-1 microsd&qid=1351174744&sr=8-5
According to benchmarks its the fastest of the microSDs you can get at 90mb/s.
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According to benchmarks its the fastest of the microSDs you can get at 90mb/s.
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Can the MicroSD Card slot read/write at 90mb/s?
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Mmmmm....
My understanding is, that the Hynix (formerly Hyundai) controller used for data built in has deplorable read\write speeds.
Hynix just brands certain products and some unknown maker stamps out the hardware.
Evidently moving the data partition along with system cache to a speedier better quality external SDcard plugged into the tablet will hopefully double read\write speed.
The system ram is another story.
It's all about getting system data to move a lot faster from system disc to ram to cpu.
Kind of like changing a hard disc out in a PC.
I have no idea how these devs are doing this with coding, yet if it works and stays working I'm gonna have a party!
As far as the cards go I'll have to do a lot more reading around these forums to judge what may be best.
I've read the "Ultra Hi Speed" cards work well.
It's weird tho they come in class 6 and 10.
I believe the key for a good card is being able to write small files 32kb or so very quickly on random calls from internal processing.
I keep confusing myself with all this...it will straighten out after two more pots of coffee...
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Can the MicroSD Card slot read/write at 90mb/s?
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In theory yes, but in real life, NO. I have tested a few digital cameras using card with 90mb/s and I never achieved this speed, (it hits 90 for like a second then quickly dropped to about 40-44mb/s). A good example is a 30mb/s you are getting less for read and even smaller for write. But if you get the 90 card, it's still better than the 30 (must compared with same manufacture and same class).
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/SDCardSpeedTests
Here is a link to some SD card speeds.
A couple on the list I've tested and my results were about the same as this list.
As always there are newer cards out that read faster that aren't on this list.
Thats OK said:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/SDCardSpeedTests
Here is a link to some SD card speeds.
A couple on the list I've tested and my results were about the same as this list.
As always there are newer cards out that read faster that aren't on this list.
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That is a good resource, however at the bottom it says those speeds are established by a large file transfer. Since we are replacing internal I/O we need small file transfer right? I'm still researching and I could be wrong though.
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Biohazard0289 said:
That is a good resource, however at the bottom it says those speeds are established by a large file transfer. Since we are replacing internal I/O we need small file transfer right? I'm still researching and I could be wrong though.
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True!
Small file fast writes are best.
Android won't have to deal with massive files.
Based on this, it sounds like there is an improvement in performance when using the cards. Now I just need to read the thread on that mod so I can take full advantage of it.
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I've seen a few posts about people saying the NAND controller in the TF700 is slow and that is what causes a number of performance issues. Is this NAND in charge of both the internal and external cards or did they select a poor one just for the internal memory and went with a better quality controller for the external?
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I researched a bit and came up with this:
The internal storage is connected to the CPU/SOC roughly like this:
[ Tegra 3 ] --- MMC interface --- [ NAND controller ] --- NAND-specific interface --- [ NAND memory array ]
Everything beyond the MMC interface is inside the eMMC chip. So the NAND controller that is slow is part of the Hynix eMMC.
Tegra 3 has 4 SD/MMC interfaces. One of them is connected to the internal eMMC, the other one to the microSD slot. The full size SD card in the dock is connected to the tablet indirectly via USB, very much like a cardreader on a PC.
There is also a NAND flash controller inside Tegra 3 - AFAIK this is not used in the TF700. The advantage of using an eMMC is that wear leveling can be offloaded to the eMMC and the software doesn't need to care.
spinaldex said:
If it did alleviate issues, couldn't we use this to our advantage and install the OS to a USH-1 card and use internal memory for storage only?
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The internal eMMC is not that slow for reading, its main performance bottleneck are random writes. So keeping the system apps on the internal storage is probably good enough since the ROM is read-only in normal use, but putting the data on an external card apparently helps a lot.
I picked up an 8gig Ultra Class 10 at best buy for $11.00. I'll give it a go when I get home.
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Should my nexus 7 tablet be blowing it out of the water? Everything is much smoother om nexus 7 tablet then the infinity like butter compared to molasas? What's the deal
Because of poor i/o flash used in the tablet. Search this forum for the i/o thread(s) to get more of an idea.
A workaround is to use Browser2Ram, but the disadvantage is that you lose settings on a reboot. But it has been shown to be highly effective in speeding up browsing processes.
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Wow really that's unbelievable I would have thought Asus would get the next tablet right after the borked the prime so hard. I guess it was a mistake giving them a second chance this is unacceptable.
For me, this is my first tablet period. I didn't have that experience to fall back on.
Still, though, overall, the tablet is nice. I just try to avoid browsing as much as possible. Not too had since I have a BIONIC on 4G lol
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johnlgalt said:
Because of poor i/o flash used in the tablet. Search this forum for the i/o thread(s) to get more of an idea.
A workaround is to use Browser2Ram, but the disadvantage is that you lose settings on a reboot. But it has been shown to be highly effective in speeding up browsing processes.
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FYI - there is a newer version of Browser2RAM floating around that doesn't lose any settings on reboot... With Browser2RAM installed, the stock browser absolutely flies on the TF700. Also, make sure to go into the Debug settings in the stock browser and set the "Enable CPU upload path" - it also increases the speed of the stock browser.
I must say, after doing these 2 things, the stock browser is the fastest browser that I've ever experienced on any tablet - period.
Between the "CleanROM Inheritance" ROM and Browser2RAM, the TF700 is very fast - no complaints at all.
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johnlgalt said:
Because of poor i/o flash used in the tablet. Search this forum for the i/o thread(s) to get more of an idea.
A workaround is to use Browser2Ram, but the disadvantage is that you lose settings on a reboot. But it has been shown to be highly effective in speeding up browsing processes.
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The latest update of browser2ram should addressed the "lose settings on a reboot" and it also suppose to work with Chrome also. Give it a try.
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FYI - there is a newer version of Browser2RAM floating around that doesn't lose any settings on reboot... With Browser2RAM installed, the stock browser absolutely flies on the TF700. Also, make sure to go into the Debug settings in the stock browser and set the "Enable CPU upload path" - it also increases the speed of the stock browser.
I must say, after doing these 2 things, the stock browser is the fastest browser that I've ever experienced on any tablet - period.
Between the "CleanROM Inheritance" ROM and Browser2RAM, the TF700 is very fast - no complaints at all.
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The whole point is that you should not have to root and modify your brand new 2012 tablet to experience smooth browsing they don't deserve my money ill be returning.
I'm not finding the link to last version of browser2ram apk file. Can someone give here the link please ? Thanks so much
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The whole point is that you should not have to root and modify your brand new 2012 tablet to experience smooth browsing they don't deserve my money ill be returning.
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In a perfect world, you are correct. But, as we all know, it's not a perfect world!
The "whole point" is that there simply is not another device on the market that can do what the TF700 can do (combining an awesome tablet with an awesome keyboard dock). Rooting and installing a custom ROM on the device is not hard and results in the best damn device that money can buy right now... It all depends on what you want to do - personally, I (and most other XDA users) would root and unlock ANY device we buy anyway, so for most XDA users, it's a moot point. Obviously, you are not that type of user...
If you don't need a keyboard dock, there are other (possibly better) options out there for you. Although, I must ask - if you are not interested in rooting and unlocking your device, why are you even on XDA to begin with? After all, that's what the XDA community is all about...
Any device that you buy is going to have some shortcomings - it's up to you to decide which device fits your needs the best. But, like I said, you simply won't find another device that can do what the TF700 can.
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In a perfect world, you are correct. But, as we all know, it's not a perfect world!
The "whole point" is that there simply is not another device on the market that can do what the TF700 can do (combining an awesome tablet with an awesome keyboard dock). Rooting and installing a custom ROM on the device is not hard and results in the best damn device that money can buy right now... It all depends on what you want to do - personally, I (and most other XDA users) would root and unlock ANY device we buy anyway, so for most XDA users, it's a moot point. Obviously, you are not that type of user...
If you don't need a keyboard dock, there are other (possibly better) options out there for you. Although, I must ask - if you are not interested in rooting and unlocking your device, why are you even on XDA to begin with? After all, that's what the XDA community is all about...
Any device that you buy is going to have some shortcomings - it's up to you to decide which device fits your needs the best. But, like I said, you simply won't find another device that can do what the TF700 can.
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this man has said it exactly like it is..
well put sir... well put
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I'm not finding the link to last version of browser2ram apk file. Can someone give here the link please ? Thanks so much
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Here you go bro.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yd3aqpeiy2m5wbn
jtrosky said:
In a perfect world, you are correct. But, as we all know, it's not a perfect world!
The "whole point" is that there simply is not another device on the market that can do what the TF700 can do (combining an awesome tablet with an awesome keyboard dock). Rooting and installing a custom ROM on the device is not hard and results in the best damn device that money can buy right now... It all depends on what you want to do - personally, I (and most other XDA users) would root and unlock ANY device we buy anyway, so for most XDA users, it's a moot point. Obviously, you are not that type of user...
If you don't need a keyboard dock, there are other (possibly better) options out there for you. Although, I must ask - if you are not interested in rooting and unlocking your device, why are you even on XDA to begin with? After all, that's what the XDA community is all about...
Any device that you buy is going to have some shortcomings - it's up to you to decide which device fits your needs the best. But, like I said, you simply won't find another device that can do what the TF700 can.
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I just wanted a bigger screen then the Nexus 7 to remote into my Desktop and be able to browse a pennyauction site Quibids. I am just saying its sad my Nexus 7 $249.99 does it better then a $699 Infinity I came here for answers and got it. Its sad that they would release a product with a I/O issue with junk flash that is all.
using a microSD
So I had picked up a few inexpensive sandisk microsd cards from amazon, 32GB and rated class 10. I did some quick symlinks of chrome's cache directory as well as flipboard's cache and databases directories to the microSD, and it's a world of difference. The apps are actually responsive and usable whereas before I wanted to throw my tablet through the wall. Once I'm back from my vacation I'll have to take a long look at moving more of the system to the external sdcard, and using a more native filesystem.
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symlinks of chrome's cache directory as well as flipboard's cache and databases directories to the microSD
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Could you elaborate on how you're doing this?
I have root, but is still locked.
Which programs did you use? What file system is the MicroSD formatted to? Which program did you format it with?
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So I had picked up a few inexpensive sandisk microsd cards from amazon, 32GB and rated class 10. I did some quick symlinks of chrome's cache directory as well as flipboard's cache and databases directories to the microSD, and it's a world of difference. The apps are actually responsive and usable whereas before I wanted to throw my tablet through the wall. Once I'm back from my vacation I'll have to take a long look at moving more of the system to the external sdcard, and using a more native filesystem.
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Good news. I just bought and installed a pair of 64 GB Sandisk UHS-1 micro SDCards in mine, so I might follow suit.
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Could you elaborate on how you're doing this?
I have root, but is still locked.
Which programs did you use? What file system is the MicroSD formatted to? Which program did you format it with?
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This is purely a proof of concept to see if it would work. I used terminal IDE, but you could use something like adb shell, dropbear sshd or android terminal emulator to get a shell prompt. I also did nothing special with the SDcard, using the regular FAT format for the purposes of this exercise to prove to myself that I should strongly consider the data2sd solution.
1. Make sure the processes aren't running. Usually after a fresh reboot and without starting any other processes so they don't get cached.
2. Identify which directories I wanted to shift over to the external SD card. I know the directories are in /data/data/<APPSTRING>, so just need to find them. Chrome is com.android.chrome, and I don't recall what flipboard is off the top of my head. Once inside those app directories, I figured that cache was likely culprit for Chrome from looking at the browser2ram code on github. When I checked flipboard I saw both a cache and databases directory which likely contained sqlite files.
3. Create the corresponding directories on the SDcard in the /Removable/MicroSD/data/<APPSTRING>/cache (or databases for flipboard).
4. Rename the original from /data/data/<APPSTRING>/cache to cache1, then created a symlink with 'ln -s' to the newly created external directory.
5. Copy via 'cp -r' (recursive) all the files from the original to the symlink. Start the apps and see if there's a noticable difference.
This isn't a permanent solution, but I just wanted to confirm for myself whether it would improve the application experience, and justify the time expense for making my external SD card permanently part of the OS via data2sd.
I could create a shell script that you could run as root if you're interested, but only have tablet access right now (on vacation).
Curious, I just bought the TF700 yesterday, it has 2 browsers on it, right? Does this effect both browsers?
jdbaker82 said:
The whole point is that you should not have to root and modify your brand new 2012 tablet to experience smooth browsing they don't deserve my money ill be returning.
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Totally agree, especially at this price point.
stevessvt said:
Curious, I just bought the TF700 yesterday, it has 2 browsers on it, right? Does this effect both browsers?
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If it's IO contention with cache write access to the internal memory, then yes it will affect both browsers since their cache is on the same data device. The browser2ram program will link the cache directory for both applications (native browser and chrome) to the tmpfs.
d01100100 said:
If it's IO contention with cache write access to the internal memory, then yes it will affect both browsers since their cache is on the same data device. The browser2ram program will link the cache directory for both applications (native browser and chrome) to the tmpfs.
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d01100100, so what is your proposal different from data2sd mod? or link2sd app (move app and cache to sd and use symbol link)??
Do you think Google will add SD Slot on the new nexus line or will they keep it without it so people can use more "cloud" ????
Trying to think if I should wait or not to buy a new phone
BruKnowsBest said:
Do you think Google will add SD Slot on the new nexus line or will they keep it without it so people can use more "cloud" ????
Trying to think if I should wait or not to buy a new phone
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Not adding a SD card slot is part of Google's policy for many years.
BruKnowsBest said:
Do you think Google will add SD Slot on the new nexus line or will they keep it without it so people can use more "cloud" ????
Trying to think if I should wait or not to buy a new phone
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SD card or not? I don't think is a problem, with a 32GB phone you have plenty of space. Now, if you like having a lot of music, photos, videos and movies it might not be enough. The SD card option is always welcome, after reading all of google reasons not to include a SD card on the nexus line up, I still don't get it. Is always nice to have some extra space.
zcucurullo said:
SD card or not? I don't think is a problem, with a 32GB phone you have plenty of space. Now, if you like having a lot of music, photos, videos and movies it might not be enough. The SD card option is always welcome, after reading all of google reasons not to include a SD card on the nexus line up, I still don't get it. Is always nice to have some extra space.
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Primokorn said:
Not adding a SD card slot is part of Google's policy for many years.
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That sucks
A nexus device with a SD Slot would be perfect
BruKnowsBest said:
That sucks
A nexus device with a SD Slot would be perfect
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I had a Galaxy S II and a Note II and I'm now more than happy to not have sd card issues or difficulties to reverse internal/external memory and so on...
32GB is enough on my end even if we can expect a 64GB model.
Primokorn said:
I had a Galaxy S II and a Note II and I'm now more than happy to not have sd card issues or difficulties to reverse internal/external memory and so on...
32GB is enough on my end even if we can expect a 64GB model.
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I had an S3. I didn't have too many issues with /extSdCard. It was nice having the extra memory but in this day and age, I no longer see the need for one as long as I have sufficient onboard space. That said, I bought the 16 GB N5 and it turned out it was not enough for me.
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I had an S3. I didn't have too many issues with /extSdCard. It was nice having the extra memory but in this day and age, I no longer see the need for one as long as I have sufficient onboard space. That said, I bought the 16 GB N5 and it turned out it was not enough for me.
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Actually I didn't have any issue with my Note II but I saw a LOT of users who were complaining about this or were wondering about how to apply such mod or how to return to a regular setup... It was a pain. We do not have this on the N5 and that's a good thing.
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Actually I didn't have any issue with my Note II but I saw a LOT of users who were complaining about this or were wondering about how to apply such mod or how to return to a regular setup... It was a pain. We do not have this on the N5 and that's a good thing.
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Yep I agree.
Primokorn said:
Actually I didn't have any issue with my Note II but I saw a LOT of users who were complaining about this or were wondering about how to apply such mod or how to return to a regular setup... It was a pain. We do not have this on the N5 and that's a good thing.
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Yep I agree.
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I had an S4 and it was great having extra space and never had problems, the reason why I would like to have one is because last week I had a situation with my nexus 5, I tried to install the SNAPSHOT M10 (CM11) OTA and I had a Nightly version installed so it messed up my phone and I had to push another ROM thru ADB .... if I had the SD slot I could've just plugged in an SD card on the computer and copied to the card
yea, and I got the 16GB N5 too, doesn't seem to be enough
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I had an S4 and it was great having extra space and never had problems, the reason why I would like to have one is because last week I had a situation with my nexus 5, I tried to install the SNAPSHOT M10 (CM11) OTA and I had a Nightly version installed so it messed up my phone and I had to push another ROM thru ADB .... if I had the SD slot I could've just plugged in an SD card on the computer and copied to the card
yea, and I got the 16GB N5 too, doesn't seem to be enough
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You wouldn't have had to remove the sdcard. Just mount USB mass storage from recovery
adb push is only a minor inconvenience. You should be able to do it in your sleep.
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None of my phones have had one, so while I may not know what I'm missing it seems I'm fine without it. Last phone was 16GB and currently at 32GB. I only ever keep a few albums of music on at one time, and I delete most videos or games when I'm done with them.
If I did use one I would make sure to buy the fastest SD card avaiable that cost 3x as much, as I would not want it to become a bottleneck.
rootSU said:
You wouldn't have had to remove the sdcard. Just mount USB mass storage from recovery
adb push is only a minor inconvenience. You should be able to do it in your sleep.
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I just recently learned ADB and stuff ....I'm a noob when it comes to things like this, but that's why I love nexus devices so much, it's easier to learn, I almost bricked my Galaxy S4 trying to root it
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I just recently learned ADB and stuff ....I'm a noob when it comes to things like this, but that's why I love nexus devices so much, it's easier to learn, I almost bricked my Galaxy S4 trying to root it
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I'll never own a sammy again. Such a volatile device
Did you read my adb and fastboot thread?
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rootSU said:
I'll never own a sammy again. Such a volatile device
Did you read my adb and fastboot thread?
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Você tem o link da thread?
Oh damn my bad I wrote that in portuguese...
Do you have the link to the thread?
BruKnowsBest said:
Você tem o link da thread?
Oh damn my bad I wrote that in portuguese...
Do you have the link to the thread?
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You can get it from my signature
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You can get it from my signature
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Cool, I'll check once I am back at the office, tapatalk doesn't show signatures
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Cool, I'll check once I am back at the office, tapatalk doesn't show signatures
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Nope it doesn't.
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zcucurullo said:
SD card or not? I don't think is a problem, with a 32GB phone you have plenty of space. Now, if you like having a lot of music, photos, videos and movies it might not be enough. The SD card option is always welcome, after reading all of google reasons not to include a SD card on the nexus line up, I still don't get it. Is always nice to have some extra space.
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32gb is definitely not enough. I need that amount of space just for my apps, and AT LEAST another 32gb for my music. That's one of the main reasons why I always have an iPhone as well- more storage space. I had the 64gb iPhone 5s and it was maxed. My 32gb N5 is maxed, and I don't have a single song on it. I can't stand streaming music.
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32gb is definitely not enough. I need that amount of space just for my apps, and AT LEAST another 32gb for my music. That's one of the main reasons why I always have an iPhone as well- more storage space. I had the 64gb iPhone 5s and it was maxed. My 32gb N5 is maxed, and I don't have a single song on it. I can't stand streaming music.
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I hear you, but Google Play Music is not bad, the problem is that you need to have internet to listen to your songs... but i wanted more space for my music, I have over 80gb of music on my PC and I wanna be able to play them on my phone without having to stream it thru Play Music
I have an old iPod Video (1st gen) that I se for my music, it has 120GB and it's almost maxed with videos and music
For me, Play music just doesn't cut it. Every file I've ever listened to from Play has had horrible compression artifacts. Spotify extreme quality is passable in a pinch, but I like my lossless files. ALAC on iPod/iPhone, FLAC on everything else.