I'm running stock right now but have slight experience with rooting and editing sql databases. I previously had to fix my entitlement check and was wondering if there was a similar fix to prevent Verizon from throttling my unlimited data plan?
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using xda app-developers app
I think if they do throttle its on their end
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using xda app-developers app
AFAIK you are only throttled if you are in the top 5% usage and you are only connected to 3G and the cell tower you are connected to is congested.
Plus, the throttling is going to be handled tower-side instead of on the phone anyway.
Jazzy Josh said:
AFAIK you are only throttled if you are in the top 5% usage and you are only connected to 3G and the cell tower you are connected to is congested.
Plus, the throttling is going to be handled tower-side instead of on the phone anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That sounds about right. I go through 60-70GB (yes, you read that correctly) per month and was told I was in the top 0.1% of users for data usage. I'm almost exclusively on the 4G LTE network (home, office, driving around, friend's and family's homes, etc.) and I've never noticed any sort of throttling issue.
Yes, i recently hit 100 gig in a month (xbox live hotspotting), and I've noticed a significant decrease in my hotspotting speed since then.
If there's nothing i can do well that's just plain SOL.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using xda app-developers app
Related
Just got a question. Does anyone notice an unusual amount of data being used by the phone? I checked my verizon account and it said I have used 8.5 gigs of data. I still have 10 days left in my cycle. I can't see where its all coming from. I do stream music but there have been plenty of days I didn't stream anything. I have used it as a hotspot occasionally but didn't download anything. Just wondering if data is sent/received differently since its using LTE.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
I used 5gigs this month when before I would average about 2-3gigs. Then again, I have also wiped my phone twice and let it reinstall everything. So that's like 4-500mb there. I definitely use this phone more than I did my other one.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
If you tethered a lot of data is used. You have to realize most computers use a lot of data. If you track your computer usage per month you'd be surprised on how much data it has used.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
I'm only half way through this cycle and I've used 482MB. I'm almost always on WiFi. That's probably all slacker.
I used almost double what I averaged on my OG Droid. Good to see it wasn't just me.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
faster does usually mean more when talking about internet I'm probably at 9 gigs with the number of phone wipes this month
Edit 10.2 gb with 4 days left
this is a lot more than my og droid because I used wifi a lot back then now with 4g using wifi is the slow way.
this is not a signature I type it in every time maybe sent from my phone or my computer
Are you using IMAP ? If you set up an IMAP email account, that can lead to heavy data usage.
On my Incredible I average about 4 - 6 GB a month. With 3 gmail accounts, htc facebook, peep, Htc linkedin, flickr, weather, and heavy browsing, no imap. Right now I am at 4.5 with 7 days left. I suppose faster refresh times would have more data.
Sent from my HTC Droid Incredible using XDA App
I tether but only occassionally and probally for about 30 min to 1 hr. I have installed about 4 roms but didn't think that would take up that much data. Only imap I have is my gmail account. When I had an iphone, atrix, and Nokia n8 I had to really put in work to use 3-4 gigs of data. I did a lot more streaming and tethering on those. This phone tp me seems to just eat data. When I switched to verizon on launch day of the tbolt, I think I had 3 days of service and it said I used almost 1 gig of data. If I get throttled think I would have any recourse?
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
With the amount of use I get from my ISP I was amazed when I kept track of my usage. I can easily pull 100GB a week of usage. If I break it down to 30 minute increments at times I can do 5-6GB. If I tethered that and my phone usage it may be in the 7-8GB range at times.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
Man I'm at 42GB with a week left into the cycle. Nothing unusual with LTE speeds.
I wonder what VZW will do to all of us using more then 5GB of data on the LTE network. If they start to throttle I will probally leave after my contract is up depending on what the other carries offer. Glad I got in the 1 yr contract before they canned it!!!
The wording Verizon has. The cap fluctuates by users. Only the top 5% will be throttled.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
Hi everyone,
Wondering what apps people use for wireless tether that hide data usage from carriers. I currently use PDANET and also have wireless tether installed, but are there settings in wireless tether I can set so it will hide the usage? I did find some hits from other devices that had specific changed to the wireless tether source to do this, but nothing for the Charge. Any suggestions? Thank you!
Tom
It's impossible. YOU CANT HIDE FROM THE COMPANY MAN!
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyCharged 2.0
AFAIK, if you're running the Gingerbread leak, hiding your usage is pretty much impossible.
crap, thanks for the info guys. Can't hide from the man
yes you can
You can hide man just keep diggin and you will see.
tnowakow said:
crap, thanks for the info guys. Can't hide from the man
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You worry too much!
Verizon can tell when your tethering, can't really hide it, just don't go crazy
Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk
ronot said:
Verizon can tell when your tethering, can't really hide it, just don't go crazy
Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using xda premium
kvswim said:
No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, it shouldn't be too hard for them to capture a packet and check the headers, which should tell them if the traffic is valid phone traffic or tether traffic. That is unless your tether software is re-shaping packets that flow through it.
But with all of their customers as long as you don't stand out, they won't look
Charged up post!
kvswim said:
No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If they want to, they can tell when you're tethering and when you aren't, regardless of how good the app you're using claims to be.
piizzadude said:
But with all of their customers as long as you don't stand out, they won't look
Charged up post!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That would assume that they have individual people scanning packets, rather than a piece of software monitoring packets and throwing flags. If you have software watching information, it doesn't matter how many sources it's coming from.
Well just set up my tether at the airport. Guess I will see when the bill comes it.
I have been tethering since I got my first incredible and haven't seen anything bad come of it, and I'm torrenting blu rays, on psn, streaming video etc.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App
Right now i. Am up to 41gigs and I used 34 last month (netflix and playing swtor and downloading stuff)
Sent from my SCH-I405 using XDA App
icebear8 said:
Right now i. Am up to 41gigs and I used 34 last month (netflix and playing swtor and downloading stuff)
Sent from my SCH-I405 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So far in 3 months I've used 165 GB. I do most of the bandwidth heavy stuff at night after 11 PM or 12 AM.
The thing is Verizon really doesn't care what you do. If a tower is congested they will throttle you, but that almost never happens except during peak hours. So if you're torrenting at 7 PM, your data may be (very temporarily) throttled to less than 1 mbps. But wait until 10 or 11 PM and you can consume data to your heart's delight.
Verizon's network is relatively robust (not nearly as good as European carriers though), so they could easily offer unlimited LTE to everyone, with throttling only during peak hours (4-10 PM). They don't do it though because they'd rather sell you 22 GB for $180, or just catch people with overage charges.
Yep I use all my data during night (10pm-6am) I work at that time and use my laptop at work with my phone. Verizon never said anything to me or slowed my connection
Sent from my SCH-I405 using XDA App
Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
jdbeitz said:
Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How much data were you using?
Sent from my thang
You do the crime, you pay the time.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
Switch to sprint?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
jdbeitz said:
Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hard to do! The data usage patterns of a mobile device n that of a computer vary a lot. The bandwidth used within a period of time is a sure shot indicator of the same. Best would be to get a home internet.
It seems like they are wising up --- or determined some new way of detecting it. Give us more information.
I also tether a lot and now im concerned! I was just discussing this on the Captivate forum. Another user recently got caught: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269283
m0biusace said:
How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
Sent from my SGH-I997 using XDA App
I am not sure if they do it off data usage or mac address. I know when I stream Siruis radio that is uses the same data that my laptop does. I have hit 5mb of usage in a month with I play about 6-7 hours of Siruis each day at work.
jdbeitz said:
Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
Sent from my SGH-I997 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
8GB this WEEK???? Give up and pay for tethering. There's no way you're going to be able to play that off as phone usage.
Sent from my SGH-I997 using XDA App
AT&T has the ability to do deep packet inspection to determine what OS is sending the packets - there are some fingerprints they can use to tell that it isn't an Android device.
This is a resource-intensive process so they normally don't do it.
But if you use 8GB in a WEEK, you can be sure they're going to investigate if that usage actually came from just the phone.
So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA Premium App
carhigh said:
So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How did you reach that conclusion from this thread?
carhigh said:
So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe. I haven't gotten a nastygram yet and I tether my tablet all the time, but that's it.
I'm responsible about data usage though - even with moderate tethering I've never gone more than 500-700 MB per month.
I haven't gotten anything yet either (knock on wood) but I did get one of those "you are in the top 5%" emails this month. So I will be watching my usage a lot more considering multiple, members on various forms here are recently reporting this from AT&T.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App
OMG. 8 gigs in a week. Lulz. How? No torrents on teathering. My 2 cents
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App
I know this seems like a joke, but really, switch to Sprint. Unlimited means UNLIMITED, on 3G or 4G (although you're much safer tethering on 4G since they don't give a damn how you use it). That, and we have the GSII.
All carriers have a teathering plan in the works, even sprint. Soon teathering will only work with the proper plan. People have taken this for granted and abused the unlimited data which was not designed for 8gb a week usage. I know that is extreme. Think about it. The unlimited was made when the average person had no idea a phone could do it. Hell I ran my whole shop off a teathered connection to my tilt when our internet went down. But that was rare. Now every kid in the world has a phone that can do it, do they use it responsibily? Nope they are streaming movies in class, music.....you get the point lol. I can't blame the carriers. As more and more people live their lives with their faces buried in a phone or tablet, the data network that runs these device will need to be changed from what we are used to. With the new system you will not be able to hide what device is using the connection. So now its time to man/woman up and either get home internet or pay for the teathering.
I got the email ....i dont tether.
I tethered 1 time last week to test functionality on gtgs new thrill rom....
Is there maybe an apn issue where they think i am tethering when i am not????
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App
Tethering a infuse thru a infuse would make it look as though I'm not tethering at all, no? No Pc or different operating system involved.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA Premium App
I'm thinking Of increasing My cell package to LTE and tethering My laptop to My phone.
My current cell package Is 6G/month With the LTE it jumps to 10G/month. I typically use 6G on My cell and 2 to 3G at home per month
has anybody done this? if So can you offer some feedback and any pitfalls.
Sent from my SGH-I727R
All I could see is if you're flashing ROMs on your phone and it suddenly messes up then you can't go online to troubleshoot but if you don't flash on a daily basis then everything should be fine. I personally haven't done tethering on a regular basis (even though my plan allows me to).
no I don't ever put custom ROMs
Sent from my SGH-I727R using xda app-developers app
FWIW, tethering kills your battery life. You use a fair bit of internet at home, but not really a "power user" per se, so you're kind of in the gray area where this type of thing could work for you but still isn't a great idea IMO.
Sounds like a good idea if it saves cash at the end of the month. At home I easily blow through 200 gigs per month, but if my usage resembled yours, I'd do it.
aycockonxion said:
FWIW, tethering kills your battery life. You use a fair bit of internet at home, but not really a "power user" per se, so you're kind of in the gray area where this type of thing could work for you but still isn't a great idea IMO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya I'm thinking that's gonna be a con. but the phone will basically be plugged in once I'm home. do you thing because I'll be on LTE for a prolonged time it will affect the phone, because Of increased heat
Ya I'm right on that edge. that's why this Is still in the analysis phase.
dac1227 said:
Sounds like a good idea if it saves cash at the end of the month. At home I easily blow through 200 gigs per month, but if my usage resembled yours, I'd do it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
200G/month. dude what are you downloading?
Sent from my SGH-I727R using xda app-developers app
Lots, and lots, of ...... jk.
Mostly TV! Netflix, hulu, crackle, youtube. Still have the og dvr but I hardly touch it anymore. Always have something streaming. I am fearful of imminent tiered data, hopefully Time Warner holds out.
My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
seanci said:
My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you use pdanet to tether it will charge while you are tethering....
Sent from my EVO using XDA
seanci said:
My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My savings would only be about $22/month but I'd get faster sppeds. My home connection is 6Mbps my friends are getting 20 to 40Mbps on their LTE phones.
The only thing holding me back is what if my needs change and I need more internet at home? Especially now that winter is arrving a lot more time indoors/at home.
jdonmc1948 said:
If you use pdanet to tether it will charge while you are tethering....
Sent from my EVO using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what is pdanet? I just googled it and it's just an app that let's you tether and we can already do that stock with our Skyrockets. I wanted to tether using wifi very rare I'll use the USB plug, because I find plugging into the computer takes forever to charge.
Jamolah said:
I'm thinking Of increasing My cell package to LTE and tethering My laptop to My phone.
My current cell package Is 6G/month With the LTE it jumps to 10G/month. I typically use 6G on My cell and 2 to 3G at home per month
has anybody done this? if So can you offer some feedback and any pitfalls.
Sent from my SGH-I727R
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Who's your provider if you got 6 gigs and with LTE 10? AT&T doesn't have those plans.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app
specter07 said:
Who's your provider if you got 6 gigs and with LTE 10? AT&T doesn't have those plans.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm With ROGERS (in Canada)
Sent from my SGH-I727R using xda app-developers app
About 3 days ago I unrooted my Galaxy SIII and I noticed a HUGE decline in data speeds, I'm not sure if this is a coincidence or not. But while rooted on CM10.1 I was able to use my tether and play Xbox LIVE fine. Now my phone is barely usable at all. No YouTube videos load. Any ideas what may be causing this? I tried searching and kept getting a connection error, sorry if this is already a topic.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app
bump
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app
Sprint could have audited your usage and determined that you were tethering your device, and thus have began throttling your network usage. If nothing has changed, you are in the same area, this would be the only logical explanation. You should read your TOS and make sure the tethering was not explicitly considered against TOS.
Just started my new bill period, it's back to normal speeds. I thought Sprint didn't throttle speeds?
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app
They don't usually, but I believe that tethering your device is against Sprint's TOS, so if they caught you doing that they probably would.