Any Tegra 3 Mini PC coming out similar to Ouya? - General Questions and Answers

I really like the idea of Ouya gaming console. Ive been toying with the idea of buying one as they say that it will be very easy to customize. The problem is that there will be no play store available. This means no gba/gbc/psx/n64/sega roms unless ouya comes out with their own version. This limits its ability to be a game console which will fit my needs. Is there anything similar coming to market?
Do you think the ouya will be hacked to allow custom roms?

You can always sideload apps on the Ouya.. Play Store can be easily installed on it if it is half as dev friendly as they claim..same goes for custom ROM's..
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Ipad can do it, why not the transformer?

Ok the other day my friends came over with his ipad and his iphone and showed me how he could play mario 64 on his ipad and use his iphone as a controller. Now why can't we do that with an android tablet ( tf ) and a android phone (g2x)? If so anyone know how?
No need fpr such set up we can use a ps3 controller or xb controller . Way better qith phisical buttons than touch screen
Yeah but I don't wana carry around a ps3 or wii controller. I always have my phone. Its more convenient.
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Feel free to go and develop software to do this - I don't think anyone is stopping you.
it was a good point and not a super complaint.. don't listen to the haters, but good luck finding a dev for it!
It shouldn't actually be too tough to do. I could see someone building an "EventAgent" app, that lets you draw buttons on the screen to use any layout you want (even superimpose it over an image of a controller, like some desktop apps). Combine that with orientation-sensor support, and then just figure out how to beam the controls to the tablet.
have you tried an app called blueputdroid I believe, Ill link in just a mo
https://market.android.com/details?id=berserker.android.apps.blueputdroid&feature=search_result
It requires root, but the ipadrequires root/jailbreak to even play emulators from what Ive heard, Ive tried it myself using fpse and a couple of the yongzh emulators and it works great, although no multitouch yet.
I would be interested in this as well.
Hey hey calm down there. I love my android to death and will always stay true. I just wanted to see if there was something out there for android so I could have something else to throw in his face on how much better android is.
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Happymanx0 said:
Hey hey calm down there. I love my android to death and will always stay true. I just wanted to see if there was something out there for android so I could have something else to throw in his face on how much better android is.
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These arguments fall upon the deaf ears of fanboys. It goes both ways. There are plenty of Android die-hards (myself included) who don't want to hear any arguments against the ecosystem they love.
The only rational arguments come from a usability or ideological standpoint. Here are two examples:
Ideological - I don't believe a manufacturer should have any control over what software I put on or what I do with my device. My device is a tool, which should conform to my needs, not the other way around.
Usability - I only use this device for these three tasks, and since the alternative does not have support/apps for these particular tasks I prefer them to the competition.
If you are rationally choosing your ecosystem, the only logical arguments fall under these two categories. Otherwise you're simply buying into a brand, and thus you can't make any logical arguments.
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If you are rationally choosing your ecosystem, the only logical arguments fall under these two categories. Otherwise you're simply buying into a brand, and thus you can't make any logical arguments.
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Indeed....and that would fall under a fallacy of bandwagon.
Understood and agreed
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+1 Ps3 controller
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Happymanx0 said:
Hey hey calm down there. I love my android to death and will always stay true. I just wanted to see if there was something out there for android so I could have something else to throw in his face on how much better android is.
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Yeah if you wanna measure penises, using a PS3 controller or Xbox 360 controller is much more impressive.
If your gonna use a touch screen, why not the built in one on the tablet? I use the on screen controls for flights and stuff. Guy next to me had a DSi playing Mario which died mid flight. I was grinding my party in FF7 for 3 hours. He was impressed.
What about HDMI out running FPse PSx and a PS3 gamepad... that impresses my peeps.
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Crazy snowboard allows u to use phone as controller and tablet as screen
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I know but how can this be applied for any game. Oh and crazy snowboard is my sons fav game
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ravizzle said:
Crazy snowboard allows u to use phone as controller and tablet as screen
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That's awesome Just played it with my transformer and Xperia
Any other games like this?!!

so i bought one of those GameStop Transformers preloaded with games..

How i transfer these games off so that i can add them to my Samsung Galaxy Tab? paid $299 for the Asus Transformer.
Root and then you can extract the apks.
yup it's rooted. how do i extract the apk's exactly? where are they located?
Get a root file explorer or even astro file explorer. Not exactly sure which folders you gotta look in. Time to snoop around your files to find them
If you use Astro, just use the Tools>Applications backup>choose the apps to backup and when done you can find it in the backup>app folder.
If using Root Explorer look in data/app for applications that is download from market or sideloaded
Astro makes ir real simple, no hunting for files... Easy peazy lemon squeezy
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dieselstation said:
How i transfer these games off so that i can add them to my Samsung Galaxy Tab? paid $299 for the Asus Transformer.
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Curious about the tablets from GameStop. I ordered a transformer prime. Are they new? Or have they been opened in order to "pre load" the free games?
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I'm really curious about their wireless gaming controllers. They said they can work with the tablets they sell. I asked if I bought a transformer new elsewhere if the controller would work with it. They told me it would work. The wireless controller is $99 if you buy it seperate. I think $40 if you buy it with the tablet. That is contract evils at it's best. I'm really jealous of the gamestop ones because they have dead space (can't find on android app store), sonic CD, and some others. But it's really the game controller support i am after. I love riptide GP but I think it would be SOOOO much better with the wireless controller. If I get a tranformer prime I might get it at gamestop.
I think gamestop is going in the right direction. I bet once they get their cloud gaming going there android tablets will have them.
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FYI, This app is bar far the easiest way I have come across to grab an apk from one device for installation on another:
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS55c2NoaS5NeUFwcFNoYXJlciJd
You just open the app, search for the apk you want by name or scroll through the list of apps, and then you can email it or dropbox it to yourself. Every once in a while there is an app that can't be located in /data/app. I am always able to extract the apk for those apps with Myappsharer.
colonel187 said:
Curious about the tablets from GameStop. I ordered a transformer prime. Are they new? Or have they been opened in order to "pre load" the free games?
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Well.. if it's any indication.. mine LOOKED new. all the seals were there and not broken. They probably have a deal with Asus to have them loaded with the games from the factory.
philburkhardt said:
fyi, this app is bar far the easiest way i have come across to grab an apk from one device for installation on another:
https://market.android.com/details?...1bgwsmswyldesimnvbs55c2noas5neufwcfnoyxjlcijd
you just open the app, search for the apk you want by name or scroll through the list of apps, and then you can email it or dropbox it to yourself. Every once in a while there is an app that can't be located in /data/app. I am always able to extract the apk for those apps with myappsharer.
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thanks for this!
maxvsmith said:
But it's really the game controller support i am after.
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It is just a Bluetooth controller. Thats how all wireless controllers work. And IMO, your best off to go with a Playstation DualShock3 controller and getting it to work with your tablet.
Every other controller I've owned pails compared to the responsiveness and quality of a good console controller. Perhaps their $99 controller is high quality too, but you can pick up a PS3 DS3 controller for $29 new. I picked up a white DS3 for $29 from Gamestop not too long ago. Beware they sell new and used controllers for the same price (I bought it new).
It really works fantastic. Honeycomb 3.2 has native support for gamepads, so most of the buttons work out of the box. I mostly use it for emulators with key mappings.
Perhaps someone with a Gamestop TF can provide a NVBackup of their stock rom.
I personally use the WiiRemote; cheap, fast and pain free. Most emulation I play works JUST FINE with it (the .emu series).
I do have a question for player911 though ...
I bought the Six Axis app and went through the rather grueling process of changing the blue tooth sync ID, etc.
Are you using the PS3 controller wired, via the Extension Kit? Or are you doing the whole routine like I am with the wireless? Or wired via the dock's USB?
player911 said:
It is just a Bluetooth controller. Thats how all wireless controllers work. And IMO, your best off to go with a Playstation DualShock3 controller and getting it to work with your tablet.
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find in /system/app/ then post here your files and see whether it is locked to that rom or it is universal.
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I also asked this question and couldn't find much of a response but i do remember i went into the settings and then into accounts to see it was already pre-synced to something but i don't remember what that was but i assume it has something to do with getting the games on your device
player911 said:
It is just a Bluetooth controller. Thats how all wireless controllers work. And IMO, your best off to go with a Playstation DualShock3 controller and getting it to work with your tablet.
Every other controller I've owned pails compared to the responsiveness and quality of a good console controller. Perhaps their $99 controller is high quality too, but you can pick up a PS3 DS3 controller for $29 new. I picked up a white DS3 for $29 from Gamestop not too long ago. Beware they sell new and used controllers for the same price (I bought it new).
It really works fantastic. Honeycomb 3.2 has native support for gamepads, so most of the buttons work out of the box. I mostly use it for emulators with key mappings.
Perhaps someone with a Gamestop TF can provide a NVBackup of their stock rom.
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Thank you I actually did realize this after posting. I thought, "Why not?" and I plugged my PS3 controller into the dock. It wasn't working even on as I was in Cordy. I figured, "Oh well I guess I need custom kernels or some kind of root app". I randomly decided to push and hold the home button a few times and I was making cordy jump and move. The first thing that came to my mind was "HOLY CRAP!". Well the edited word that came to my mind anyways...
I went to Riptide GP and found it wasn't working. I went to the dual control settings and I was able to control it with my PS3 controller. IT WAS AMAZING. Riptide GP is amazing by itself but with the controller holy crapy. I raised the graphics to maximum level and it looked like a Xbox (not 360) game. The graphics and effects are incredible and the precise control is unrivaled. I tried some other games though and they did not really work. I think that the Tegra 2 or Tablet Games work best. Any games that were just stretched on screen had almost no control support at all. I am not sure what other games support controllers but I want to find out. If they ever get Dead Space on Android (without buying it from gamestop) I hope that supports it as well.
...Well the controller is one thing. But I also really want Sonic CD. I love Sonic and I am still coming off of the high from Sonic Generations. Sonic CD is a game I never beat either but enjoyed playing it on a friends computer when I was younger. I think there are a few other games that the gamestop tablet comes with that are not on the android market. It actually seems like google removed ALOT of games and apps on the android market for the tablets and some it seems off the market in general. There is only two gameloft games on there for the tablet as well...
I wasn't really ever for gaming on android but now that I see how amazing it can work I am all for it. I'm all for a UMVC3 port on Android Tegra 3! I think there is a PS3 wireless app too that works on rooted androids. I am going to look into that soon. I was excited about the Wii-mote way but I am not crazy about the classic controller nunchuck wired shell. Love the design but not the wired aspect to the wii-mote. Yeah I agree I would love for someone to upload the apps that came on the gamestop tablet. I've already started looking but haven't found any online yet.
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I also asked this question and couldn't find much of a response but i do remember i went into the settings and then into accounts to see it was already pre-synced to something but i don't remember what that was but i assume it has something to do with getting the games on your device
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I recommend to anyone who has the tablet to back up the games using asus back up or whatever back up you use and putting it on your computer. I've already read a few stories of how some flashes caused the apps to disappear and they haven't found a way to recover them. I am not sure if google will back them up. The Asus Backup might. If all else fails try that app that someone posted the link to and put it on your computer for safe keeping. Using CMW and backing up the device might help as well.
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Well.. if it's any indication.. mine LOOKED new. all the seals were there and not broken. They probably have a deal with Asus to have them loaded with the games from the factory.
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This strikes me as interesting... If the games were preloaded, then presumably Asus would also need to supply customized versions of FOTA updates for GameStop customers. I'd be surprised if that were the case for a sunsetted, heavily-discounted product, though.
using the honeycomb launcher click on the downloaded apps taband see if the games are there , if they are that means it is in data partition
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Just use mybackup or mybackup root. Backup all your apps, or just the ones you want to copy, then use the normal file explorer to go to rerware/backups/allappbackups/(todaysdate)/apps then copy the apks.
This is how I transferred deadspace to my non-gamestop transformer
i bought 2 asus pads from gamestop here in san diego and neither of them had any of the games preloaded
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[Q] Towerfall on the Shield?

Basically, my question is the title, but is there a way to do this without the Ouya framework? Is Towerfall just a plain APK, or is it dependent on the framework? I have heard of TotalOUYA, but I was hoping for a way to play without having to install the entire Ouya interface.
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The ouya framework is a dependency for almost all OUYA games sadly. Most OUYA games could easily be ported to the shield though.
Yeah, I would love it if I could somehow get my hands on Final Fantasy III, Ouya edition. That would have controller support and the best graphics of all the remakes.
Just wanted to bump this real quick and see if anyone ever figured this out.
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Just wanted to bump this real quick and see if anyone ever figured this out.
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As far as i know. One of the modders here was trying for do a full ouya rom port to the shield but to his dismay and tireless hours he stopped. every new version he trys just to see but he said its almost impossible due to what Ouya has done to android as far as patches and more goes. So at this point don't expect something to come out anytime soon.

Galaxy Relay and Rockstar games

I notice that several Rockstar games are not available for Galaxy S Relay. It probable that the phone doesn't have enough cpu power to run the games, but I notice that the games can be run using a Galaxy S2, which should be inferior to the S Relay. Anyone notice this issue have a fix? I tried using Market Helper to get around the issue, but it doesn't work and the developer appeared to have retired the app. I could also mess with build.prop but I rather not.
I was wondering. Has anyone actually requested Rockstar to support the device. Since there are quite a number of S Relay owners out there, I would think that someone must have already done so.
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Which games? What ROM? Or are you pure stock?
REV3NT3CH said:
Which games? What ROM? Or are you pure stock?
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Grand Theft Auto. Virtually all of them block Relay as a device. ROM is stock. Why? Does installing a different rom makes a difference?
Paul
I emailed Rockstar game and they didn't respond, it appears I won't be getting any Rockstar games . I believe there is a way around it. If you purchase the game on a compatible phone, then extract the apk using a utility call Raccoon and install it on the Galaxy S Relay phone.
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Nvidia shield console vs tablet

I need a little clarification. The Nvidia console is running the same type of android as the tablet but has integration with Android TV. So outside of a little bit of a spec boost why can't android TV be done on the Nvidia shield tablet using Console mode hooked up to a TV via HDMI? I'm really not seeing the difference in the two products other than some specs and hardware.
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Bboy486 said:
I need a little clarification. The Nvidia console is running the same type of android as the tablet but has integration with Android TV. So outside of a little bit of a spec boost why can't android TV be done on the Nvidia shield tablet using Console mode hooked up to a TV via HDMI? I'm really not seeing the difference in the two products other than some specs and hardware.
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I just tried it then with my Xperia Z2 Tablet, I downloaded the apk from: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/leanback-launcher/. Then pressed home and selected it as my launcher. I then plugged my Xbox 360 controller into my OTG Cable, then into the Tablet. I was able to launch Leo's fortune without a hiccup. Try for yourself.
So technically I could do this with a MHL to HDMI adaptor, but im still going to be getting the Nvidia Shield because I want something permanent in my loungeroom
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I just tried it then with my Xperia Z2 Tablet, I downloaded the apk from: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/leanback-launcher/. Then pressed home and selected it as my launcher. I then plugged my Xbox 360 controller into my OTG Cable, then into the Tablet. I was able to launch Leo's fortune without a hiccup. Try for yourself.
So technically I could do this with a MHL to HDMI adaptor, but im still going to be getting the Nvidia Shield because I want something permanent in my loungeroom
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Did you have to root to do this? Also do you only need the launcher apk or any other files? Not sure if all the services would run the same.
My original point is I have the shield tablet not sure why it can't do exactly the same thing as the console.
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Bboy486 said:
Did you have to root to do this? Also do you only need the launcher apk or any other files? Not sure if all the services would run the same.
My original point is I have the shield tablet not sure why it can't do exactly the same thing as the console.
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I do have root but sideloading an APK doesnt require root. Try it yourself.
If you want that full Android TV experience though, I'd go with the Shield TV
I guess I don't k ow why the tablet can't do what the console does. They are so similar.
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Maybe because they're two separate devices that are different things. While I guess I can see what you mean about them being similar, they're different form factors, meant fit different purposes. If you must, install adb drivers and sideload the launcher, or just transfer the apk and install. Tbh though, you're not missing out. True story - it's just a phone without its own screen with a limited launcher. The search function is kind of cool , but nothing amazing. You can say show me movies that won an Oscar in 2012 , or show me movies with Kevin Hart, and it will show you movies, but mostly not what your looking for. I only bought it because ive been streaming games via moonlight on my note 4, and I thought it would be nice to stream them to my tv.
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I do have root but sideloading an APK doesnt require root. Try it yourself.
If you want that full Android TV experience though, I'd go with the Shield TV
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I did load it but it is t responsive. It goes to update suggestions and then nothing is clickable. Maybe I need another file.
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Maybe because they're two separate devices that are different things. While I guess I can see what you mean about them being similar, they're different form factors, meant fit different purposes. If you must, install adb drivers and sideload the launcher, or just transfer the apk and install. Tbh though, you're not missing out. True story - it's just a phone without its own screen with a limited launcher. The search function is kind of cool , but nothing amazing. You can say show me movies that won an Oscar in 2012 , or show me movies with Kevin Hart, and it will show you movies, but mostly not what your looking for. I only bought it because ive been streaming games via moonlight on my note 4, and I thought it would be nice to stream them to my tv.
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Actually that is what I would like. Contextual search. Appletv is a letdown. Chrome cast has been good but I rather have the interface and the contextual search. I like how androidtv is laid out and interacts with Google now. With that said I already us the tablet so I not going to get the console, which brings me to the reason I am questioning why I can't recreate the same experience. I would like there is more than just the launcher.
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Little bit of a spec boost? At least twice as powerful, and 4K at 60FPS to boot.
It also uses the android TV platform which even though it is based on 5.1.1 it is different then the tablet os.
Also the hardware is different.
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It also uses the android TV platform which even though it is based on 5.1.1 it is different then the tablet os.
Also the hardware is different.
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Beside the spec boost what I want to to flash the android TV platform on my tablet but haven't seen a thread that does this. The lea back launcher is unresponsive when I use it (cannot tap anything on the screen).
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