[Q] Rooted but not really - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

I updated my phone to Jellybean. I used OTA rootkeeper to keep root. I then restored root using the same app. After doing this, I don't really have root. In OTA rootkeeper, it says that the device is rooted but the "root permission granted" box is not checked. Anything I can do to recover root without having to flash a custom recovery or do a full data wipe on my phone? Thanks in advance!

primetime34 said:
I updated my phone to Jellybean. I used OTA rootkeeper to keep root. I then restored root using the same app. After doing this, I don't really have root. In OTA rootkeeper, it says that the device is rooted but the "root permission granted" box is not checked. Anything I can do to recover root without having to flash a custom recovery or do a full data wipe on my phone? Thanks in advance!
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i think when you go from and ICS to JB update the root keeper method fails to restore root. i have only had luck when updating from different versions of ICS.

michaeldizzowns said:
i think when you go from and ICS to JB update the root keeper method fails to restore root. i have only had luck when updating from different versions of ICS.
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There were many reports it worked so I'm guessing it actually did.
To the op have you went into you super user app and let it update the binaries?
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kintwofan said:
There were many reports it worked so I'm guessing it actually did.
To the op have you went into you super user app and let it update the binaries?
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It won't. It fails to obtain root access.

primetime34 said:
It won't. It fails to obtain root access.
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Then my friend you are going to have to re root.
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kintwofan said:
Then my friend you are going to have to re root.
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Oh goody. Is there one that won't force me to do a full data-wipe? If not, which do you recommend? Thanks.

primetime34 said:
Oh goody. Is there one that won't force me to do a full data-wipe? If not, which do you recommend? Thanks.
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This is the only method I'm aware of to root jb. It will keep all your data and it's not add difficult as it looks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35418324
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Verizon Galaxy S III Update!

After seeing postings about a Verizon Galaxy S III update yesterday, I checked using "About device -> Software update" in Settings this morning.
A 30 MB download started and the update completed in about 5 minutes. Software Update says it was an update from LF2 to LG7.
Yeah and kills universal search and you cant disable the remote diagnostics if youre stock and not rooted.
Also several users have confirmed it will break root. They all were stock rooted with stock recovery.
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I am on the Stock rom, rooted and bootloader unlocked Using Voodoo OTA RootKeeper, EZ-Unlock, and CWM. Re-Locked bootloader, disabled root, took the update. After the update completed, CWM asked to disable the new boot image, selected yes. Rebooted, got a message saying the update failed, however it installed and I am at I535VRLG7. I was able to restore root, and unlock bootloader without any problem..
How do I keep the phone from taking the update?
dkg418 said:
How do I keep the phone from taking the update?
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Read a Page or two back
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ali87va said:
Read a Page or two back
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Rofl.
Please excuse my Galaxy S III, it's a bit Paranoid.
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There's only 1 page to this thread.
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voodoomanx said:
Also several users have confirmed it will break root. They all were stock rooted with stock recovery.
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OTA's always break root, that is what OTA rootkeeper is for!
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NeoMagus said:
OTA's always break root, that is what OTA rootkeeper is for!
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Is that what they only do. Or do they brick the phone as well? I'm currently rooted and on stock recovery and don't know if updating will break my phone please help!!!
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You will probably lose root and have to redo. Might cause issues worse than that
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Not getting the update here in Atlanta
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cpwshf said:
I am on the Stock rom, rooted and bootloader unlocked Using Voodoo OTA RootKeeper, EZ-Unlock, and CWM. Re-Locked bootloader, disabled root, took the update. After the update completed, CWM asked to disable the new boot image, selected yes. Rebooted, got a message saying the update failed, however it installed and I am at I535VRLG7. I was able to restore root, and unlock bootloader without any problem..
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Didn't know Voodoo RootKeeper worked on this. Have on my Asus tablet and never failed me yet. You are hereby knighted with your first "thanks"
eagIesfan398 said:
Is that what they only do. Or do they brick the phone as well? I'm currently rooted and on stock recovery and don't know if updating will break my phone please help!!!
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Did you unlock your bootloader? If so did you read the BIG WARNING?if not go back and read it. Generally once you root you don't want to give vzw a chance to unroot you. If you unlocked your bootloader It could brick your phone.
So generally don't take ota updates! You wait for the devs to check them out First and modify them for us.
As far as i Can tell this ota just takes stuff away from us And installs some vzw remote access crap. ( with that on your phone you will have to go back to stock if you just call customer support for help)
piiman said:
Did you unlock your bootloader? If so did you read the BIG WARNING?if not go back and read it. Generally once you root you don't want to give vzw a chance to unroot you. If you unlocked your bootloader It could brick your phone.
So generally don't take ota updates! You wait for the devs to check them out First and modify them for us.
As far as i Can tell this ota just takes stuff away from us And installs some vzw remote access crap. ( with that on your phone you will have to go back to stock if you just call customer support for help)
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The update itself has useful stuff (a new radio which fixes no sim issues), but we have that already and it should just be flashed by itself, imo.
Well got my first no sim with the radio epic fail.. So much for fixing that maybe just a push to get that bootloader relocked
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**super_flasher** said:
Well got my first no sim with the radio epic fail.. So much for fixing that maybe just a push to get that bootloader relocked
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Did you do it via OTA or flashed the radio? I'm hoping you flashed invisiblek's in Odin. That one was actually the wrong version.
Flashed the radio with Odin
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Flashed the radio with Odin
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Flash the CWM version. invisiblek accidentally bundled the previous radio in the Odin package. Not sure if it's updated yet.
eaglesfan398 said:
Is that what they only do. Or do they brick the phone as well? I'm currently rooted and on stock recovery and don't know if updating will break my phone please help!!!
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Freeze sdm 1.0
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Root Broken after update

Short story ... phone auto updated by mistake and OTA Root Keeper failed along with 1 click method.
Any ideas?
dshafiee said:
Short story ... phone auto updated by mistake and OTA Root Keeper failed along with 1 click method.
Any ideas?
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All i know is that you could odin back to a rootable build, and then reroot and install the rooted version of the latest from here
If anybody knows an easier way feel free to share
Like others below me said, use this method here
Yeah just re root. You don't have to Odin back. The new build can still be rooted just like the other ones.
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dshafiee said:
Short story ... phone auto updated by mistake and OTA Root Keeper failed along with 1 click method.
Any ideas?
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Reroot? Debugfs in casual worked just fine for me on the new update....
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beaups said:
Reroot? Debugfs in casual worked just fine for me on the new update....
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I tried this and it didn't work. Tried it numerous times.
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SFG said:
I tried this and it didn't work. Tried it numerous times.
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It works. It's always been a little buggy. Keep trying. I did have to install superuser from the play store manually afterwards though. Maybe you got the SU binary pushed and just need to do that still?
beaups said:
It works. It's always been a little buggy. Keep trying. I did have to install superuser from the play store manually afterwards though. Maybe you got the SU binary pushed and just need to do that still?
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Tried downloading SUPERUSER but it indicated that I was missing the binaries.
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SFG said:
Tried downloading SUPERUSER but it indicated that I was missing the binaries.
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So keep running the debugfs root from casual. It works. Try adb kill-server after the first reboot and after clicking "OK" in casual. It worked for me.
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Worked for me first try
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boo boo be boo
beaups said:
So keep running the debugfs root from casual. It works. Try adb kill-server after the first reboot and after clicking "OK" in casual. It worked for me.
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Thank you. I will give it a shot.
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OP: Were you able to get root back?
I am running stock, rooted. I was able to retain root following the upgrade by utilizing Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper.
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OTA will always break root but eventually it will not only break root but also break unlock exploits regardless of any app. Ask the EVO 4G LTE guys who are now stuck with locked bootloader. :laugh:
prdog1 said:
OTA will always break root but eventually it will not only break root but also break unlock exploits regardless of any app. Ask the EVO 4G LTE guys who are now stuck with locked bootloader. :laugh:
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Oh? Didn't hear about that...
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Question about updating while on root.

Today jelly bean officially comes out for the Verizon s3, but my phone is rooted.do I have t to unroot it target the update? Thanks
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No but it will break root. There is a thread in development on how to root the ota.
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So I could just update with no worries as it is right now? I'm not any roms or anything
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myoussef0 said:
So I could just update with no worries as it is right now? I'm not any roms or anything
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If you do not have a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) installed then yes it should install successfully.
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If you do not have a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) installed then yes it should install successfully
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And what if you do have a custom recovery installed? I rooted, unlocked the bootloader and installed CWM for backups. Haven't done a custom rom yet -- just installed a few apps that required root.
Any ideas on what the OTA update will do?
PatrickSteele said:
And what if you do have a custom recovery installed? I rooted, unlocked the bootloader and installed CWM for backups. Haven't done a custom rom yet -- just installed a few apps that required root.
Any ideas on what the OTA update will do?
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I'm wondering the same thing...
The same as what happens on every other OTA, it will fail upon trying to install and you'll notice because your phone will be in CWM or TWRP.
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PatrickSteele said:
And what if you do have a custom recovery installed? I rooted, unlocked the bootloader and installed CWM for backups. Haven't done a custom rom yet -- just installed a few apps that required root.
Any ideas on what the OTA update will do?
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SlimSnoopOS said:
The same as what happens on every other OTA, it will fail upon trying to install and you'll notice because your phone will be in CWM or TWRP.
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And how do I disable CWM or TWRP? I used EZ-Recovery & EZ-Unlock originally. I see a "stock" option in EZ-Recovery. Would I select that, hit flash, then select reboot recovery? And on EZ-Unlock would I just select the "lock" option?
Thanks!
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FYI: Just read this over at Droid Life:
"For anyone interested, I was rooted and had EZ-Recovery installed. When my S3 rebooted it went to the recovery after the update "failed". It gave me the option to apply the zip and I did so. and it even asked me if I wanted to fix root (I did not do this part). When the phone booted it stated that the update had failed, but in checking my Android version is definitely says 4.1.1."
mg2380 said:
And how do I disable CWM or TWRP? I used EZ-Recovery & EZ-Unlock originally. I see a "stock" option in EZ-Recovery. Would I select that, hit flash, then select reboot recovery? And on EZ-Unlock would I just select the "lock" option?
Thanks!
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Use EZ Recovery to flash the stock recovery. No need to re-lock your bootloader since the OTA should do that for you if you haven't installed anything that would cause it to fail like Google Wallet or CWM/TWRP.
I know many people prefer to Odin to a stock ICS image then take all the OTA's so that's another option for you as well.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Use EZ Recovery to flash the stock recovery. No need to re-lock your bootloader since the OTA should do that for you if you haven't installed anything that would cause it to fail like Google Wallet or CWM/TWRP.
I know many people prefer to Odin to a stock ICS image then take all the OTA's so that's another option for you as well.
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Thanks!
mg2380 said:
Thanks!
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Let me help you out with the thanks. By the way snoop your every where!
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kintwofan said:
Let me help you out with the thanks. By the way snoop your every where!
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(pumps iron) just for the day shift lol
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OTA Jellybean update fails

So I'm running into difficulties updating to jellybean.
I'm rooted on stock 4.04,with the bootloader unlocked, and have vodoo ota installed.
When installing the update, it prompts me in cwm to install the untrusted package. So I click ok to continue.
A quarter way through it fails and reboots, then continues to reboot continously after it powers up to the home screen.
What am I doing wrong, what should I disable to install this ota update.
Thanks in advance
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superbrowndude said:
So I'm running into difficulties updating to jellybean.
I'm rooted on stock 4.04,with the bootloader unlocked, and have vodoo ota installed.
When installing the update, it prompts me in cwm to install the untrusted package. So I click ok to continue.
A quarter way through it fails and reboots, then continues to reboot continously after it powers up to the home screen.
What am I doing wrong, what should I disable to install this ota update.
Thanks in advance
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If you have safestrap installed,you need to uninstall it first.
So would safetrap be the equavlant to clock work mod?
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superbrowndude said:
So would safetrap be the equavlant to clock work mod?
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Possibly. If you can live without it temporarily without losing root, give it a try. For the update to work, you need to have your phone "stock" with the exception of being rooted, which you can protect with rootkeeper. Any apps that came stock, need to be there, etc. also make sure that your SU binaries are updated as well.
I tried the temp unroot and tried installing it, but it didn't work. I'll attempt to un install clockwork mod, and temp unroot and try it again.
Would you be able to save me some time and point me in the right direction for removing clockwork mod please
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I better restore all the bloat ware to then
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Damn it, I don't have the Rogers bloat ware any more!
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superbrowndude said:
Damn it, I don't have the Rogers bloat ware any more!
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I'd say this is probably your problem. Always better to use TB, and just freeze the bloatware, but leave it in place.
djousma said:
I'd say this is probably your problem. Always better to use TB, and just freeze the bloatware, but leave it in place.
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You'll need a fresh stock /system from someone on here. Can anyone grab a dd image of their Rogers RAZR HD running .492002?
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That would be awesome if someone could grab that for me, normally I just freeze the bloat ware, this was the first time I un installed it all, fml lol
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Bump for me, or anyone who can do a back up of there rooted jellybean to a xml soni can just flash it.
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Android pay ota and keep root

If i take this ota does it all me to re root
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You cant take the ota if you are rooted. It will dl but wont install if you twrp or another recovery. You need to be 100% stock and yes the same root process works from what i can find.
Just incase that didn't make sense.
When your rooted the updates show up and if you click the update or start the update..... it will download and try to install but it fail and give an error because you are rooted. So to answer your question nothing will happen if you try an update. You won't loose root but you also won't get the update installed either.
In order to update during a root you need to do it all manually with files provided on here. OTA or stock updates wont take and will just fail.
Tripped KNOX, bye OTA and Samsung Pay.
If you are stock with Knox tripped, you can still take ota. You can't take the ota ifbubr rooted.
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Yea re rooted without issue
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pbedard said:
If i take this ota does it all me to re root
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pbedard said:
Yea re rooted without issue
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@pbedard
hello again paul... you will need to odin back to OGD STOCK Download HERE then take the update. then follow the same root steps.
If anyone is modified and cant download the update, I have it HERE if needed

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