Ok I am a newbe.....so be gentle on me.
I have had my droid2 global for a week now..almost
My first one had rebooting(randomly on its own) issues and had to go back to the store.
This one is much better and my brother in law told me to root it and back it up and I did.
I also purchased an extended battery and am getting a little longer results.
So the Droid2 global has a 1.2 speed processor vs the 1.0 of the regular Droid2.
So I also notice battery life is shorter with the new global....probably due to the processor.
So I would assume it would be safe to UnderClock the processor to 1.0 and get a little more battery life...and less heat.
Brother in law says probably down to 800 but hey I don't wanna push it.
How do I go about doing that, I know most people wanna overclock...
Thanks in advance!
I use SetCPU to underclock to 1ghz. It saves bat and is still pretty fast. Download setcpu from their website free, or buy it from the marketplace. Cheers!
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yeah, use setcpu to underclock, it supportst profiles so it changes frequencies depending on what profiles you have, which is very useful, i have mine overclocked to 1330MHz until it reaches 75% batterylife, which it is underclocked to 1150MHz, then at 40% i have it underclocked down to 800MHz.
Mines runs at 800 till 20% battery, then it goes to 600.
Mine is running Fission so its still pretty fast/responsive.
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What is Fission?
What is Fission an OS?
rusty815 said:
yeah, use setcpu to underclock, it supportst profiles so it changes frequencies depending on what profiles you have, which is very useful, i have mine overclocked to 1330MHz until it reaches 75% batterylife, which it is underclocked to 1150MHz, then at 40% i have it underclocked down to 800MHz.
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i havnt figured out how to overclock with setcpu... any help?
gse2schmidt said:
So the Droid2 global has a 1.2 speed processor vs the 1.0 of the regular Droid2.
So I also notice battery life is shorter with the new global....probably due to the processor.
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The processor could definitely be a part of it, but there is one other major difference between the Droid 2 and the Droid 2 Global that could account for a D2G draining battery faster than an identically configured D2. Namely the "Global" part of the Droid 2 Global.
The phone has two different Cellular chips, often referred to as "basebands", but being as "baseband" is a shortening of "cellular baseband processor" which is actually only part of the chip, I prefer the term "cellular modem", since the chips look to the main processor much like a cellular modem does to a PC (indeed they are often exactly the same chips).
One of these cellular modems is a 3GPP2 family modem (supporting CdmaOne CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 EVDO Rev.A), which is the one used in the united states by Verizon.
The other cellular modem is a 3GPP family modem (supporting GSM, GPRS, EDGE, WCDMA (a.k.a. UMTS), HSDPA, and HSUPA). That is the one that that is used internationally, as very few countries besides the US have cellular providers that use 3GPP2 family standards.
Now back to the battery life. It will probably not surprise you to find out that having both Cellular Modems running, will use more power than just running one of them. So turn off the one you are not using. I'm guessing you live in the US, and are not using the GSM one.
To turn off the one you are not using follow the steps in the following video, except you will not be choosing global mode.
In case you don't want to watch the video, the steps are:
Go to the home screen.
Push the menu key.
Choose settings.
Choose Wireless & networks
Choose Mobile Networks.
Choose Network modes.
Select the correct option.
Now, which option is correct? Well that depends on how many options are in the list. There will either be 3 options, or more than 3 options. Unmodified phones will have only 3 options as fair as I know.
If you have three options, they are "Global" (Both modems on), "CDMA" (The one you want is the US), and "GSM/UMTS" (the one you want elsewhere).
If there are more than 3 options, for the US you want "CDMA / EvDo auto" for the US, or "GSM / WCDMA auto" elsewhere. "But wait", you ask, "What are the other options for?" Well, they let you choose to never use the 3G protocols, or only ever use the 3G protocols. They are not likely to be useful to most people, which is why the unmodified phone only shows 3 options.
So I would assume it would be safe to UnderClock the processor to 1.0 and get a little more battery life...and less heat.
Brother in law says probably down to 800 but hey I don't wanna push it.
How do I go about doing that, I know most people wanna overclock...
Thanks in advance!
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Believe it or not, that would not really be underclocking. The processor turns its speed up or down based on temperature and use. TI calls this "Smart Reflex" technology. The processor in most laptops also does this, but Intel calls it "SpeedStep", and AMD calls it "PowerNow!".
The minimum speed for the Droid 2 Global is 300 MHz, and the maximum is 1.2 GHz. All you would be doing is telling the CPU not to go all the way to 1.2 GHz.
Actual under-clocking would imply the ability to run lower than 300MHz, which you probably don't want to do.
As others have pointed out the tool you use to set a minimum or maximum speed is called SetCPU. Unfortunately it only works on "rooted" devices, so you would need to "root" your phone first.
botnryan said:
i havnt figured out how to overclock with setcpu... any help?
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its actually a bit tricky, i use droid overclock by jrummy to overclock the processor using his !experimental! module which works on the d2g, and i have to use setcpu to actually take advantage of the overclock as it seems droid overclock doesnt actually set the cpu speeds i want on my d2g.
alright so download jrummys droid overclock and it sort of tells setcpu what the new max clock speed is, then use setcpu to set that new max speed?
edit: i cant figure it out. i went into droid overclock and changed the max freq under advanced/custom, saved the preset and applied it. nothing changed in setcpu.. :/ im not doin somethin right
Did you go into settings in droid overclock and enable the expirimental module? If you did, then set the frequency however high you want it, then in set cpu make a profile with the new frequencies. To get it to set I used quadrant score, don't know why but that seems to get it to work
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Wow thanks for the info....
especially to shut the one modem down since I am in the US
Ok one last question
so under CDMA settings it lists
Home Only
Automatic
of those 2 options none is default set....should I leave it alone or select on of the above
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Did you go into settings in droid overclock and enable the expirimental module? If you did, then set the frequency however high you want it, then in set cpu make a profile with the new frequencies. To get it to set I used quadrant score, don't know why but that seems to get it to work
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ok what exactly are your settings in droid overclock? and tell me like im a retard baby step by step what to do hahaha. i got it to do the overclock but it seems like the 2 programs might be interfering with each other it gets super laggy and doesnt like me.
Ok, open up do, press the menu button, in settings, there should be something about an experimental module, enable that. Then in the set cpu frequency thing, set the frequency to what you want. Make sure you don't have profiles for do, to ensure this, go into the menu with the bars for setting the min and max frequencies, you'll see a "profiles" menu. Open it and make sure profiles are not enabled. Then open up setcpu and go to the profiles menu. Enable profiles in setcpu and create a profile with the max frequency that you set, and make sure you set it to act when the phone is charging (make sure you're charging your phone). Then leave this and open up quadrant benchmark and run it. After this is done, your cpu frequency should have changed. I don't know why it only changes when I use quadrant, but after it changes you no longer need to use quadrant to have the frequencies changed. If its stable on the frequencies you set, then you can open up do and set the frequency class you have on boot.
Hope this helps.
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I've been underclocked at 600mhz as of last night for a battery experiment. The phone shows no real signs of being slower except in the quadrant scores.
I hope its drastic. I've also shut down the gsm modem too.
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@rusty815 I downloaded DO by jrummy and did the steps that you said but couldn't get it to work. Still max cpu says 1.2. I used set cpu to set a profile at 1.2 when charging/full, then quadrant standard to run a full benchmark. BUT nothing changed the max cpu settings. Am I doing something wrong? Do I set the max cpu through a droid overclock profile or some other setting?
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You have to set the max cpu to be you're oveeclocked frequency, if you can't set you're overclocked frequency then something isn't right. When I change the frequency set, let's say to overclock to 1.3, tyen I can go to set cpu to go to 1.3, but it won't reach that speed until I run something cpu intensive I believe
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any of the speeds that setCPU shows you will be safe and stable. As mentioned above, you'd just be lowering the maximum available clock speed. I found 1000 felt just as fast as 1.2, though the quadrant scored dropped from ~1700 to ~1550. Even 800 feels indistinguishable, while quadrant scores drop to the 1200s. Need for Speed still runs snappy, though.
gse2schmidt said:
especially to shut the one modem down since I am in the US
Ok one last question
so under CDMA settings it lists
Home Only
Automatic
of those 2 options none is default set....should I leave it alone or select on of the above
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It is my understanding that those options really only make a difference in really old 3GGP2 (i.e. CDMA series) phones. With modern phones the system called a Preferred Roaming List is used in preference to that setting.
The PRL lists what towers your phone can roam on (i.e. those which Verizon has a roaming agreement). Please note that Verizon has agreements for free roaming with some US networks, which are part of Verizon's "extended network", and are not considered roaming for billing purposes under most plans, but is still technically roaming according to 3GPP2 standards.
The PRL also has an option as to what to do with towers that are not on the list. Most providers set the do not connect option.
Some (mostly tiny) providers though leave the option set to connect if there are no towers on the list in range. AIUI, that is the only case where the option you found has any meaning. The Home only option would not connect to those towers despite the PRL option, while the Automatic would.
For your purposes it really makes no difference, as I'd be shocked to find that Verizon's PRL was set to allow connections to unknown towers.
hi rusty815,do you see any significant improvement on the battary life?
Yeah, I can get a full day worth of batterylife now, before it would last me about 5 hours or so
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I'm using SetCPU on my rooted Droid X and I wanted to see if anyone could help me find the best CPU settings for my OC'd DX. Right now I have it set at 800 MHz minimum and 1000MHz maximum with scaling on demand and 'Set on Boot' enabled.
Any guidance I could get on this would be greatly appreciated.
Battery life isn't an issue.
Thanks!
youre asking a really open ended question here bud
because what it comes down to is a multitude of factors
ie: what android OS youre using, what version, what rom, what programs you have to aid in overclocking, what do you use your droid x for on a regular basis, are you looking to tweak speed for mere benchmark results or to conserve power, do you game, etc etc etc.
youd have to give me more to go on bud
every phone is different also. i have the same setup as my phone on my friends, and he cant oc past 1.15 without hanging. personally, my highest profile in droid overclock is 1.25 ghz at 58vsel. and lowest 250mhz at around 28vsel
by the way on on liberty 2.0.1 with a theme and a few build.prop tweaks
I have an unlocked and rooted but otherwise stock TF700t. I downloaded setCPU and tried to go to 1700Mhz max but it will not go above 1600. I have tried setting min 1700Mhz, tried changing governors and schedulers, but nothing will make it go above 1600Mhz. Is this something ASUS has locked down?
ka1z0ku said:
I have an unlocked and rooted but otherwise stock TF700t. I downloaded setCPU and tried to go to 1700Mhz max but it will not go above 1600. I have tried setting min 1700Mhz, tried changing governors and schedulers, but nothing will make it go above 1600Mhz. Is this something ASUS has locked down?
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You should go and try custom ROMs and especially their kernels to overclock.
I don't think the stock yet rooted kernel allows overclocking.
For what it's worth, running the Zeus ROM, CPU Master reports 1700 Max... Although, I don't think it has anything to do with the kernel in this case (it uses stock kernel) - I think the max speed can be tuned via some settings at the OS level (via root, of course). Take a look at the cpu1.sh, cpu2.sh and cpu3.sh scripts in /etc - they are the PowerSave, Balanced and Performance modes (those scripts get run when switching modes).
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adelancker said:
You should go and try custom ROMs and especially their kernels to overclock.
I don't think the stock yet rooted kernel allows overclocking.
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I have stock + rooted, I can selected 1700 with SetCPU. This is stock speed, no over clocking, no custom rom required. Do you have the latest update (version .26)?
If it is set to run at max, it will run at max when needed. AFAIK it's 1700 for the 1st core and 1600 is for multi-core use.
I too have seen tbis happen except im using system tuner to set it to max. When i set it to hit 1.7 it seemed it only ran 2 cores mostly one. Not all 4. When i set max to 1.6 all 4 cores are on.
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This is a really strange problem. Over the past few days, my device keeps resetting its maximum CPU speed to 1190Mhz, no matter what app I use to set the max speed; I've tried no-frills, trickstermod, and the built in cm performance settings.
I assumed it was the kernel, but then i switched kernels; i assumed it was the ROM, but then I switched ROMs; I assumed it was an app, but I factory reset and still the same. What else could it be?
Truthiswithin said:
This is a really strange problem. Over the past few days, my device keeps resetting its maximum CPU speed to 1190Mhz, no matter what app I use to set the max speed; I've tried no-frills, trickstermod, and the built in cm performance settings.
I assumed it was the kernel, but then i switched kernels; i assumed it was the ROM, but then I switched ROMs; I assumed it was an app, but I factory reset and still the same. What else could it be?
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i think its normal. you don't have any problems with it right? you can change profiles like 'performance' or 'interactive' if your rom allows you to do this.
think it's probably thermal throttling - use cpy spy, or something that monitors CPU speeds and check
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Are checking set on reboot in the overclock menu? You lose your overclock on most roms if this is not checked.
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think it's probably thermal throttling - use cpy spy, or something that monitors CPU speeds and check
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Yeah, I think that's it; I finally got no-frills to force it to stay at 2.4ghz and thermal throttle in logcat was whining about not being able to set the CPU speed.