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I lost root- perhaps thru flashing new recovery?

I rooted my Zoom wifi long ago. Flashed all the various Tiamat kernels and followed bigrushdog's 3.1 update with no problems. I recently flashed the CWR RC 4 over the updated 4.0.1 version in Rom Manager. I now see that all my apps requiring root don't work. I have Super user app but don't get the request to grant su anymore. I tried upgrading Super user within the app but it fails and writes a zip update to SD card which is supposed to be flashed through Recovery but doesn't (I suspect because the file is a 0 byte file!).
Any suggestions on how to get root back?
[Solved]: Seems it was a result of trying to upgrade Superuser that I lost root. See the last post below and the solution Almighty1 offers. It worked and I have root back......
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tangiers said:
I rooted my Zoom wifi long ago. Flashed all the various Tiamat kernels and followed bigrushdog's 3.1 update with no problems. I recently flashed the CWR RC 4 over the updated 4.0.1 version in Rom Manager. I now see that all my apps requiring root don't work. I have Super user app but don't get the request to grant su anymore. I tried upgrading Super user within the app but it fails and writes a zip update to SD card which is supposed to be flashed through Recovery but doesn't (I suspect because the file is a 0 byte file!).
Any suggestions on how to get root back?
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There is a problem with the latest recovery version in Rom Manager. The recovery from solarnz is probably not at fault, but maybe the interaction of the two. You wil lneed someone with more knowledge than me to help you get root back, but this issue really needs attention. There are several updates to apps that seem to be breaking our Xooms, and there should be pinned warnings or the developers should be making everyone aware of these conflicts as soon as they find out. I had problems and I'm sure a lot of other folks have have problems with these incompatible app updates as well.

Thanks for that. It almost seems like Superuser is "degrading" in the sense that I had a number of apps reflected in the Superuser app as having been granted root (but not Rom Manager). However, I couldn't add new apps to it. And when I cleared Superuser data and reinstalled it, none of the apps that required root (and which had worked before) would work.
I also think that the writing of a 0 byte zip update file by the Superuser app indicates a problem.
I suspect the solution may lie with fastboot and re-pushing Superuser and CHMOD(?) file permissions but like you, I am nervous to play with these sort of things. My Xoom is working and until I have the need to change the ROM, root doesn't matter to me....

after reading this I checked and also had lost root. I had not checked after after flashing 4.0 in rom manger. Superuser was still there but my apps did not have access. I tried flash a new recovery, reflashing Tiamat nether worked. Anyway from adb
adb remount
adb push su /system/bin/
adb shell
chmod 4755 /system/bin/su
exit
adb push Superuser.apk /system/app/
I then rebooted and had root... updated Superuser as I had an older one in my platform-tools and all is well I then flashed the lastest recovery in rom manger and still have root.
Hope this helps

Thanks. I will give it a try this evening when I get back from work.
Also found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14643716&postcount=340 which seems similar to your solution.

This is why I hate CWR. I wish we had Amon RA recovery.

[Q] Showcase- cant root after installing CM7

would have just asked in :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142872&page=67
but i don't have enough posts, and don't want to spam a bunch of useless "cool" posts to get my count up.
Anyways,I did every thing in that topic and have CM7 running fine on my Cell South Showcase. But, i don't seem to have root access superuser is there but seems to do nothing. i tried checking via the terminal with just a "su" command and got nothing. Tried Superoneclick (my go to rooter for awhile) and it just hangs at "looking for device" . and, Z4 seems to not work with 2.3.4 phones.
So is there any fix to this, or have i just hit some crazy bug?
I have seen some people allude to changing the kernel, but the last time i tried to upgrade/change the kernel on this phone i had to save it via odin

Don't you HAVE to be rooted in order to run cm7?

i know, it breaks all logic
i just know i cant grant superuser to anything, busybox installer says it isnt rooted, and Titanium cant do anything

thenumber5 said:
i know, it breaks all logic
i just know i cant grant superuser to anything, busybox installer says it isnt rooted, and Titanium cant do anything
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Clear data on superuser app and/or uninstall/reinstall it.

Ah,I see.. yes, try above. If no. Maybe wipe and reflash?

ok cleared the data, did nothing
can you ever uninstall/reinstall superuser?

thenumber5 said:
ok cleared the data, did nothing
can you ever uninstall/reinstall superuser?
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Yup just an app

Also:
i have already flashed via Odin back to stock once and did the whole CM7 flash again from a fully clean rom

ok, Flashed Superuser 3.0 beta 3
no go, says my SU binary is out of date, and the app crashes when it tries to update it
checked my bin and xbin, both have a "SU" file in them
in terminal when i CD in to both folders and try to run "SU" i get an error that looks like it is trying to relocate a library and failing to do so
Can i just download the new SU binary my self and manual drop it in to the folders?

well that didnt work, cant modify anything in the system folder so i cant delete that old "SU" and replace it with the one from the superuser 3.0 apk

LOL
well i got it to let me replace the SU in /bin but not in /xbin
so now i got some half confused phone, i can grate Superuser "superuser" but when it tries to update or do any thing the log says "gaining root access....fail"
i still dont know how i have have a CM7 phone that by it very nature is rooted that thinks it is not rooted

ok for anyone who cares, i just gave up flashed via odin back to stock and tried the MIUI port, worked great once i fangled MMS in to working again

I had a similar problem, at which point I grabbed stericson's busybox app from the market which allowed me to flash a working busybox which after a reboot or two and running the installer again fixed me up..there is an app called root checker that can give info on su, superuser.apk, and busybox installs
I am almost positive that when I used jrummys busybox installer our killed root access on my phone. I had superuser.apk but without busybox it was rather useless as no apps could get root. the fix was flashing busybox 1.19.0 and leaving it in xbin and letting the app do its thing once I had rebooted.. then I rebooted again and everything was fine! after bring rooted for so long I don't think I could function without it!
for others out there, my experience has been this: stay weary of the jrummy busybox installer...its never given me anything but problems...and honestly unless busybox is borked, or ya have a damn good reason to upgrade or downgrade my suggestion is to leave it! the potential problems that can arise (for me every time, using jrummy's version..3 times) can be a pain!
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i had the same issue but dont recall if it was CM7 that did it or not but i think it was.
i had to completely blow out the phone and start from scratch.
if i recall, CM7 uses a different version of SuperUser and it just want bonkers on me but completely blowing everything out reformatting and everything seemed to work.

If you're on CM7 already, you should be rooted. If not, try SuperOneClick (Google).

Help with wiping and/or reinstalling busybox

Hey guys and gals,
I've got a 7.7 on stock ROM rooted using the original root method the day I purchased the tablet. I've been using my tablet happily for over a month now.
Unfortunately, late last night I opened up Google Play and started updating all my apps, including Busybox by stericson. There was a new busybox version out (1.20.1) and I decided to install it using "Smart install." I'm not sure if it tried to install to /system/bin or /system/xbin but after the install I saw the app give me an error message explaining that the install was unsuccessful. Anyways, now a lot of my root-requiring apps including Titanium Backup Pro is not functioning at all. It seems that my BusyBox installation is corrupt.
I tried using BusyBox Pro by stericson to uninstall but the corrupt busybox seems to have prevented a proper uninstall, so it still lingers. I downloaded JadeEyedWolf's root.zip from his pinned "Root" post which includes SU & BusyBox thinking that installing the root.zip from CWM Recovery would over-write the corrupt busybox. After flashing I rebooted the tablet and I still got the same corrupt busybox issues.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Edit: The corrupt busybox causes the Wifi to show Error when I try to turn on the radio. Not that internet is vital in repairing the tablet, but I've worked around it by tethering Bluetooth internet off of my OG HTC Evo 4G. It's strange though - I can peruse websites and view the items in the Google Play Store but it will never actually download, though the "Downloading --- " bar does display.

I had the same problem, stock rom as well. If you check the reviews for Stericson's Busybox on Google Play, the two top ones a few minutes ago both mentioned the same issue.
Trying to root again and reinstalling Superuser didn't help, neither did a factory reset (manually salvaging settings and data was a pain too).
Re-flashing the original rom fixed it, following the guide at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469635
I switched to JRummy16 Busybox installer and it seems to work.
Surprising that no one else here mentioned the problem ...

Try this fix.

To be more specific: BusyBox installer 8.0 replaces /system/bin/sh and /system/bin/ash binaries. I don't have any idea why would it do that (considering that I specified /system/xbin as an install folder), but this quick fix restores original ash binary (and sh as a symlink to it).
Installer 8.1 and above has this bug fixed.

Had the same problem with busybox and had to re-install the rom. What does this fix do?
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Already answered, see post above.

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Too late for me to try it, but thanks the same

ginkage said:
To be more specific: BusyBox installer 1.20.1 replaces /system/bin/sh and /system/bin/ash binaries. I don't have any idea why would it do that (considering that I specified /system/xbin as an install folder), but this quick fix restores original ash binary (and sh as a symlink to it).
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Thank you so much it works well now! You're a life-saver ginkage. Should I keep the stericson busybox 1.20.1 original install or should I use the busybox installer to install a fresh copy of 1.20.1 in /system/xbin?
Thanks again!

Thank you so much it works well now!
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That's why we are here.
Should I keep the stericson busybox 1.20.1 original install or should I use the busybox installer to install a fresh copy of 1.20.1 in /system/xbin?
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Personally I always use /system/xbin, so that some custom kernel (like CWM) could use /system/bin if it wanted to.
BTW, the BusyBox installer bug was fixed in version 8.1, and current version is 8.2, so you should update it anyway. I was wrong to mention "1.20.1" version. Post edited.

Hi guys,
First of all, I want to apologize sincerely for the bug that my application introduced in 8.0. I didn't catch the bug because my device wasn't affected by the bug.. (I always test my app myself before releasing..yet I still miss things due to devices file structure being so different.)
At any rate, the bug was that the application symlinked all applets to Busybox. Normally, this is done if you use smart install and change the settings manually. By default smart install will not overwrite applets that are not already symlinked to Busybox.
This was not a problem with Busybox 1.20.1 but was a problem with my application and how it performed the install.
Again, I am very very sorry that this has occured, as a result I am scouring the web trying to find people with the issue and help them resolve it.
If you have this problem, it can easily be fixed by reflashing your current rom. you do not have to wipe or clear any data. Once this is done, you can download my installer, version 8.1 or greater and upgrade busybox as normal.
Please let me know if you guys have any questions.
Best Regards,
Stephen - Stericson

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Try this fix.
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I too had the same situation, updated busybox then noticed something was awry when hidebar wouldn't work. My issues go way beyond broken root and WIFI, I've also been getting constant reboots. I was just about to re-install the stock rom until I read about the possible udate.zip fix. I'm very interested in how to apply the zip (I don't have CWM) being that i do extensive customization (with no backup, I know, I know) and I'd hate to re customize everything again. If I can get things right the first thing I'll do is install CWM and perform a nandroid backup.

ninpo said:
I too had the same situation, updated busybox then noticed something was awry when hidebar wouldn't work. My issues go way beyond broken root and WIFI, I've also been getting constant reboots. I was just about to re-install the stock rom until I read about the possible udate.zip fix. I'm very interested in how to apply the zip (I don't have CWM) being that i do extensive customization (with no backup, I know, I know) and I'd hate to re customize everything again. If I can get things right the first thing I'll do is install CWM and perform a nandroid backup.
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you don't need CWM, just copy the fix onto external storage card,enter recovery (PWR + Vol. up Buttons) and apply the update from there. just fixed my tablet this way

regius said:
you don't need CWM, just copy the fix onto external storage card,enter recovery (PWR + Vol. up Buttons) and apply the update from there. just fixed my tablet this way
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A thousand thanks kind sir, I'm back in business, that was pain free
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ginkage said:
Try this fix.
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Thanks for posting this, I'm in love with my 7.7 once again.

Appreciate the response stericson. I had purchased your Pro version but even after I fixed the uninstall failed and it also did not detect superuser permissions even though SU gave a notification that Busybox Pro was granted superuser. All other root-requiring apps work. Had to refund the Pro purchase though

No problem. there seems to be an issue with the application detecting root sometimes, that's why you can still try the install.
I'm looking into this issue, it just started showing up so I am not sure what is going on.

ginkage said:
Try this fix.
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Really appreciate this fix. On the verge of wiping out everything....
But decide to see if its busy box since its the last thing i install before all this happens....
Just to note that uninstall busybox also doesnt solve the issue...
so need to fix.

I had a lot of problems with root permissions not being granted by Superuser app. Recently I have tried SuperSu from the market and uninstalled original Superuser app (important to follow the instructions for the App! ).
My main problem was that ntfssd was not granted root permissions at startup, so I had to start it again manually. With SuperSu it is no problem. Also I use Busybox and successfully updated to the latest binary recently.

ginkage said:
Try this fix.
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Thank you so much for that, I had been driven crazy and had also gone through a factory reset to try and get my device back working, to no avail. Can I ask where you got the ash you're including here? It worked for my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus, on 3.2, but is it a generic enough file that it can be dropped on nearly all Android devices without any issues arising?
I only ask out of curiosity and understanding the system more.

How do I root a13 zeepad 7.0 tablet?

I tried searching on the forum for a13 allwinners zeepad 7.0 but can't find anything.
I bought this from amazon,
Android version:
4.0.4
Model number:
A13MID
Kernel Version: 3.0.8
Can someone help me root this tablet?

Anyone? :|

Baoish said:
Anyone? :|
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Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...

:good:

deeno33 said:
Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...
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So, just install su and it will work?

deeno33 said:
Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...
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My daughter just got one of these devices for Christmas, as well. I saw this post as well and thought "Great, I don't have to do the part" so, I installed SuperUser, when I went to update the su binary, which was shown as "Legacy" it got all the way to where it needs to remount the / file system as rw, and to my surprise, it wont remount. Another thing I noticed was that even though it does have su installed, I can't get to the point to where the app even asks for root permission. I tried to update Busybox, as well, and it wouldn't let me even do that... The version which is installed to the tablet appears to be 1.18, but when SuperUser goes to update the su binary it reports back as being the same as the installed version, which I know for a fact that it is not. So while I do in fact have root, it seems to only be a partial root. Anyone willing to throw around some ideas as to where I can go from here to A) get the / file system to remount rw, and B) get SuperUser, an updated su binary and an updated Busybox installed so that I can a full root going and get down to business to installing CWM and CM10 installed and running on here for her.
Any help would be appreciated,
Matt

Yes there is A Solution To This Via A Simple App
meskes said:
My daughter just got one of these devices for Christmas, as well. I saw this post as well and thought "Great, I don't have to do the part" so, I installed SuperUser, when I went to update the su binary, which was shown as "Legacy" it got all the way to where it needs to remount the / file system as rw, and to my surprise, it wont remount. Another thing I noticed was that even though it does have su installed, I can't get to the point to where the app even asks for root permission. I tried to update Busybox, as well, and it wouldn't let me even do that... The version which is installed to the tablet appears to be 1.18, but when SuperUser goes to update the su binary it reports back as being the same as the installed version, which I know for a fact that it is not. So while I do in fact have root, it seems to only be a partial root. Anyone willing to throw around some ideas as to where I can go from here to A) get the / file system to remount rw, and B) get SuperUser, an updated su binary and an updated Busybox installed so that I can a full root going and get down to business to installing CWM and CM10 installed and running on here for her.
Any help would be appreciated,
Matt
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all zeepads come prerooted and shouldnt block u from updating or to have root access (download root checker) from market
Ur Binarys Should Still Update And Say Current If U Download New Binary Just Wont Show Up Till Reboot
If u Want To Stop This Error While Not Having To Reboot Everytime
Ya This IS Annoying to Do Everytime But Simple solution
THis Proplem IS Do To The Tablet Having A Stock Kernel That Doesnt Allow System Read/Write Access
This Is Why SuperUser Fails Cause It Needs Write Access To The Devices File System...(system/xbin/su)
Which means to Remount system after updating to take Affect And Most Stock Devices Do Not Allow This
so if u updated and it said current version ur ok this is to prevent anymore errors in the future
superuser can have different error witch mean different things just cuz u get one doesnt mean
they didnt take affect but remount of system is the most common error check superuser faq
1.Download Mount System R/W App From PlayStore And Install And Open.
2 .Allow Root Access To The App Then Select Mount System R/W Button
3. Press Home Button And Navigate To SuperUser App And Then Try Updating Binary
This Method Should Work For You
Hope This Works For You
As for cwm and cm9/cm10 it depends if u have a8 or a10 device a13 are not yet supported

MikeG_MG56 said:
all zeepads come prerooted and shouldnt block u from updating or to have root access (download root checker) from market
Ur Binarys Should Still Update And Say Current If U Download New Binary Just Wont Show Up Till Reboot
If u Want To Stop This Error While Not Having To Reboot Everytime
Ya This IS Annoying to Do Everytime But Simple solution
THis Proplem IS Do To The Tablet Having A Stock Kernel That Doesnt Allow System Read/Write Access
This Is Why SuperUser Fails Cause It Needs Write Access To The Devices File System...(system/xbin/su)
Which means to Remount system after updating to take Affect And Most Stock Devices Do Not Allow This
so if u updated and it said current version ur ok this is to prevent anymore errors in the future
superuser can have different error witch mean different things just cuz u get one doesnt mean
they didnt take affect but remount of system is the most common error check superuser faq
1.Download Mount System R/W App From PlayStore And Install And Open.
2 .Allow Root Access To The App Then Select Mount System R/W Button
3. Press Home Button And Navigate To SuperUser App And Then Try Updating Binary
This Method Should Work For You
Hope This Works For You
As for cwm and cm9/cm10 it depends if u have a8 or a10 device a13 are not yet supported
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Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I got the a13 and was wondering if anyone was making a cm9/cm10 rom for it as well. I have the a13. I tried to Google and can't find any info about any custom roms for this device.

I used kingRoot version 4.1 Any newer version would not root it.

[Q] Non writable /system on Stock or something else?

I have done s-off via firewater, installed Philz CWM and done SU from there.
For all intents and purposes the system appears rooted (TiBu works, I get toast pop-ups etc).
I am also able to use ES File Explorer to mount /system as r/w.
I have also tried to remount system as r/w via adb shell.
All of these work as I am able to "touch /system/test.file" via adb and then delete it via ES File Explorer.
It would appear the system is writable.
However, when I try to install BusyBox from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en
I get "Insufficient storage available" (and I have plenty of space).
I have found this information on modifying the kernel either through a boot.img or a .ko:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708686
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But both have some indications that they may be out of date and cause problems with the latest release.
I'm not even sure I have to do either of these, because it appears writable from my tests.
It is possibly the busybox program - but that is the one I have used in the past.
I would like to find both a trusted way to install busybox AND understand why I might be getting this problem in the first place.
thanks

TraderJack said:
I have done s-off via firewater, installed Philz CWM and done SU from there.
For all intents and purposes the system appears rooted (TiBu works, I get toast pop-ups etc).
I am also able to use ES File Explorer to mount /system as r/w.
I have also tried to remount system as r/w via adb shell.
All of these work as I am able to "touch /system/test.file" via adb and then delete it via ES File Explorer.
It would appear the system is writable.
However, when I try to install BusyBox from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en
I get "Insufficient storage available" (and I have plenty of space).
I have found this information on modifying the kernel either through a boot.img or a .ko:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708686
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But both have some indications that they may be out of date and cause problems with the latest release.
I'm not even sure I have to do either of these, because it appears writable from my tests.
It is possibly the busybox program - but that is the one I have used in the past.
I would like to find both a trusted way to install busybox AND understand why I might be getting this problem in the first place.
thanks
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If you do try one of the kernel related solutions do the first one as the second is based on firmware we won't have until next week. Also here is a little trick you can try: navigate from the root directory to /data/data ND look for the Busybox folder and delete it then attempt reinstalling it from the play store. May or may not work but worth a shot.

S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
If you do try one of the kernel related solutions do the first one as the second is based on firmware we won't have until next week. Also here is a little trick you can try: navigate from the root directory to /data/data ND look for the Busybox folder and delete it then attempt reinstalling it from the play store. May or may not work but worth a shot.
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Well if you read the thread for the first link it looks like people are saying it was for the "older firmware" and people were having issues. I am not sure what "firmware" they are referring to, but the OP closed that thread and I am wary to use that since all of this stuff seems to be back from April and nothing more on it.
What do you mean about the second link not having firmware until next week? I don't see anything in there that talks about a particular firmware version. Also, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731893
That Rom uses 1.55.506.2 (latest OTA I believe???) and states that it is using flar's method from the second link....so I'm confused by your statements (but want to understand!).
I don't have any busybox folders in /data/data.
I'm having a similar problem trying to install Xposed as well:
"Xposed Installer couldn't be installed. Free up some space and try again"
I'm really not sure what's going on since it appears I have proper s-off and root using the standard methods. I can't believe no one else is trying to do these things on a stock ROM and not having issues :/
UPDATE: I'm thinking you meant the 4.4.3 update coming for us? That second thread has .ko for both 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.

UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/

TraderJack said:
Well if you read the thread for the first link it looks like people are saying it was for the "older firmware" and people were having issues. I am not sure what "firmware" they are referring to, but the OP closed that thread and I am wary to use that since all of this stuff seems to be back from April and nothing more on it.
What do you mean about the second link not having firmware until next week? I don't see anything in there that talks about a particular firmware version. Also, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731893
That Rom uses 1.55.506.2 (latest OTA I believe???) and states that it is using flar's method from the second link....so I'm confused by your statements (but want to understand!).
I don't have any busybox folders in /data/data.
I'm having a similar problem trying to install Xposed as well:
"Xposed Installer couldn't be installed. Free up some space and try again"
I'm really not sure what's going on since it appears I have proper s-off and root using the standard methods. I can't believe no one else is trying to do these things on a stock ROM and not having issues :/
UPDATE: I'm thinking you meant the 4.4.3 update coming for us? That second thread has .ko for both 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.
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Yeah on the kernel my bad, didn't see it had a normal one for non 2.23 firmware users lol, if you don't wanna use that kernel you can always use one of the other ones, maybe Faux's or Evolutionmods kernel. I actually currently use Evolutions kernel and it's quite nice. Also that ROM will work fine I believe, quite sure 1.55 is the latest OTA and if not it doesn't really matter. All though as some people have stated on your previous thread (i think?) you might as well use an optimized stock ROM such as CleanROM or ARHD (Android Revolution HD 8.1), all it is is a stock ROM thats been optimized for better performance and maybe has some tweaks to make it better. To be clear on the ARHD ROM, I stated the version because any higher version than that is for 4.4.3 which we currently don't have the firmware for.
TraderJack said:
UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/
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Glad you got your issue solved!

TraderJack said:
UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/
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Just so you know, when asking the recovery to reroot the system it's going to use the supersu app packaged with the recovery. It's likely a much older supersu app. You're always better flashing the latest version from the recovery itself because you can be sure it's running the latest binaries. If you updated the app from the play store after installation it probably would've worked. It's also possible it simply just doesn't inject the file properly, but a flashable zip always will work.
I can assure you that philz is probably the most updated recovery. It runs very well and does everything it's supposed to do. Are you running the Verizon M8 build or the unified M8 build?
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BadUsername said:
Just so you know, when asking the recovery to reroot the system it's going to use the supersu app packaged with the recovery. It's likely a much older supersu app. You're always better flashing the latest version from the recovery itself because you can be sure it's running the latest binaries. If you updated the app from the play store after installation it probably would've worked. It's also possible it simply just doesn't inject the file properly, but a flashable zip always will work.
I can assure you that philz is probably the most updated recovery. It runs very well and does everything it's supposed to do. Are you running the Verizon M8 build or the unified M8 build?
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I did update to the latest version...the way Philz works is you choose the "Re-root option" and then it tells you to go and install SuperSU from the store. The only thing I may have done wrong (or misunderstood since it isn't well documented) is this was my "root" as opposed to my "re-root." By that, I mean I rooted originally with weaksauce to install firewater, but I used the Root option in Philz instead of the more discussed supersu.zip flash.
The weird thing about it was that root appeared to work properly. I got toast popups and could use things like TiBu. SuperSU said it was rooted, and Philz was passing the root check.
That should teach me from straying from the guides at all to use a feature not very well discussed.

TraderJack said:
I did update to the latest version...the way Philz works is you choose the "Re-root option" and then it tells you to go and install SuperSU from the store. The only thing I may have done wrong (or misunderstood since it isn't well documented) is this was my "root" as opposed to my "re-root." By that, I mean I rooted originally with weaksauce to install firewater, but I used the Root option in Philz instead of the more discussed supersu.zip flash.
The weird thing about it was that root appeared to work properly. I got toast popups and could use things like TiBu. SuperSU said it was rooted, and Philz was passing the root check.
That should teach me from straying from the guides at all to use a feature not very well discussed.
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Can't say I ever used that option, it probably just didn't flash it correctly. You may want to post the problem in the recovery thread so they know about it.
In theory it should've worked the same way as flashing the zip. The only thing I could think of is how old the binary was or the location of the flash was incorrect.
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