I was all excited to get the Verizon JB update because of the rumoured "Global Mode", thinking I'd be able to pop in a SIM card from a different provider when travelling overseas.
However, gauging from comments on other forums, it seems that Verizon still keeps the phone locked, and allows only voice connection when the user goes on a different network when travelling outside of the US... Obviously, it won't work with competitors' network such as AT&T or T-Mobile...
The general consensus ( I won't be travelling for 5 weeks so I can't confirm this ) is that there isn't a way to enter the APN when a new SIM card is inserted and the users are only able to make phone calls with the new cell provider, but no data connections are feasible.
Can someone please chime it? Have you been successful in using data connection on your Verizon SG3 when travelling overseas? If so, how did you manage to enter the APN setting?
any input is greatly appreciated...
cheers,
James.
james changstein said:
I was all excited to get the Verizon JB update because of the rumoured "Global Mode", thinking I'd be able to pop in a SIM card from a different provider when travelling overseas.
However, gauging from comments on other forums, it seems that Verizon still keeps the phone locked, and allows only voice connection when the user goes on a different network when travelling outside of the US... Obviously, it won't work with competitors' network such as AT&T or T-Mobile...
The general consensus ( I won't be travelling for 5 weeks so I can't confirm this ) is that there isn't a way to enter the APN when a new SIM card is inserted and the users are only able to make phone calls with the new cell provider, but no data connections are feasible.
Can someone please chime it? Have you been successful in using data connection on your Verizon SG3 when travelling overseas? If so, how did you manage to enter the APN setting?
any input is greatly appreciated...
cheers,
James.
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Download APN Global from the play store, once the international SIM is inserted, run the program and it should pull in the needed APN info....I've not tried it, only read about it on other forums.....so good luck
Follow the instructions here and you'll be good to go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
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I have a sim & security unlocked Sprint phone touch pro 2 that we use on the AT&T network, USA. It works well, and registers with AT&T, but then after a bit it gets dropped, and pops up asking if you want to register with the network again. My friend has the same thing, and we are using different ROMs, and have tried different radios, but we both have this same issue. Does anyone have any idea how to resolve this issue, maybe a registry edit or something?
thanks.
I'm also curious about this. I'm on Verizon and was given the phone to keep from my last employer and my new one uses AT&T. I haven't done enough digging yet but wanted to *bump* this thread as I'm looking to keep my CDMA VZN phone and use it on AT&T permanently and wanted to know if there are others who have done this already.
*Anyone had success with using their CDMA phone with AT&T/Tmobile without GSM disconnecting as the OP mentions?
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I'm also curious about this. I'm on Verizon and was given the phone to keep from my last employer and my new one uses AT&T. I haven't done enough digging yet but wanted to *bump* this thread as I'm looking to keep my CDMA VZN phone and use it on AT&T permanently and wanted to know if there are others who have done this already.
*Anyone had success with using their CDMA phone with AT&T/Tmobile without GSM disconnecting as the OP mentions?
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wooties, I read somewhere where the verizon touch pro2 works for AT&T GSM in the us, but not sure where. Search xda and ppcgeeks. I have the Sprint touch pro 2.
I just answered this one in another thread, so here is a copy and paste...
With your AT&T SIM in you probably need to set to manual network instead of automatic so it stays connected to AT&T and doesn't try to flip back to CDMA - if you've already one this, then someone else will have to jump in, but the settings are:
All Settings > Personal > Phone > Network (tab) > Mode of Operation = GSM/UMTS Only
This should keep it from jumping back to Sprint and then back to AT&T where it asks you to register again...
Remember though, with a CDMA world phone, you will only get 2G coverage here with your data as the 3G radio is a different frequency.
Hopefully that does the trick - and if not, someone else jump in and save them quick!
I searched the Verizon Galaxy S3 forums and could find no discussion about the global capabilities of this phone. I had understood at purchase (pre-ordered) that an OTA update would be coming soon to turn on global capabilities. I have seen nothing yet. I have called Verizon, gone to local store (useless), contacted Samsung tech support both online and via telephone. Everyone just says they have no idea.
So, if I have rooted my phone and unlocked the bootloader, is there a way to turn on global capabilities? Or even easier, can I just buy a SIM card from a European provider and insert and it will work?
I appreciate any input on this. I am new to using a smartphone in Europe but I can't give it up now for even two weeks.
Just wait for the ota. Im due for a dominican republuc trip in 50 days. If i dont get the unlocking OTA before my trip im raising hell.
VZW GALAXY S 3 4G LTE
I want to know what people who live on/near a border do? If you live in US very near the Canada border, how do you stop your phone from roaming back & forth and bending you over on "international" charges, even though you technically are in the US.
Here is the thread you were looking for..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
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Here is the thread you were looking for..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
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Thanks for responding. I did find this thread a bit after I posted. Working through the steps.
Just a quick question on this topic. I've received the 4.1 OTA update from Verizon for the Galaxy S3. This update was supposed to bring global roaming capabilities. My question is, what does this mean? I know the thread linked above allows a Galaxy S3 to use other 3G networks but that involves rooting and complicated setups with APN (which, while I can certainly do, I'd rather not).
So, what does the default 4.1 configuration on Verizon get me? Can I go to, say, Japan and pop in a 3G SIM? Or is "roaming" simply roaming on any CDMA network? Is Verizon going to charge roaming fees?
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Just a quick question on this topic. I've received the 4.1 OTA update from Verizon for the Galaxy S3. This update was supposed to bring global roaming capabilities. My question is, what does this mean? I know the thread linked above allows a Galaxy S3 to use other 3G networks but that involves rooting and complicated setups with APN (which, while I can certainly do, I'd rather not).
So, what does the default 4.1 configuration on Verizon get me? Can I go to, say, Japan and pop in a 3G SIM? Or is "roaming" simply roaming on any CDMA network? Is Verizon going to charge roaming fees?
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I had a similar question and called Verizon. They confirmed that the 4.1 update unlocks the sim so that you can use any carrier overseas. However, if you need to modify APN's, good luck. There is no easy way to do that I've found without rooting. I'd rather not root my phone. I'm going to PAris and Rome in April and was hoping to use a sim card from iphonetrips. They have the best deals for unlimited data depending...
I've read that the update will bring new global roaming capability, so has anyone tried to stick a GSM SIM into the phone yet? Does the new JB update bring unlocked 3G GSM?
No, it does not. I updated to 4.1.1 bone stock and got it to register on T-Mobile's network, but there is no way to change APN's, so data and text/mm do not work.
Now, before the update you could root and get a program to add in the APN of whichever network you wanted... folks (including myself) have had it on AT&T and T-Mobile's GSM networks, albeit without WCDMA ("3g"). Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895684 for progress on getting WCDMA working on the 1900 band. The phone works on the 2100 band out of the box, but no US carrier uses that for WCDMA.
Okay, that said, post-update, I am sure the same APN tricks that worked pre-update, will work now, but sadly one has to be rooted to do that. Attached are two screenshots from while I was farking about with it.
Why not root, then? No disadvantages that I can see
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I like how they're legally supposed to have it unlocked but still, here we are a half a year later.
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No, it does not. I updated to 4.1.1 bone stock and got it to register on T-Mobile's network, but there is no way to change APN's, so data and text/mm do not work.
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To be honest, I'm amazed that VZW is allowing you to use another carrier's GSM SIM at all without some sort of unlock code (since this is the case with most phones sold in this country).
I assumed that their "Global Roaming" capability meant that you can take your SGS3 with the VZW SIM to countries (e.g. everywhere other than the USA) that only have GSM (WCDMA/HSDPA) and pay Verizon's extortion (roaming) fees. Maybe the lack of unlock is due to the fact that the phone's primary radios are LTE and CDMA?
If someone can confirm that rooting the phone will allow you to change the APNs it would be greatly appreciated. My family is vacationing in Costa Rica this winter. I've already acquired a couple of unlocked AT&T phones that we plan to use with local prepaid SIM cards, but it'd be nice to be able to have the option of using my I535 there as well.
Thanks!
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If someone can confirm that rooting the phone will allow you to change the APNs it would be greatly appreciated. My family is vacationing in Costa Rica this winter. I've already acquired a couple of unlocked AT&T phones that we plan to use with local prepaid SIM cards, but it'd be nice to be able to have the option of using my I535 there as well.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
Yep, had it on T-Mobile and AT&T (GSM only) here in the states, and worked great on O2 (with HSPA+ YAY) in Germany. Page 6 for my screenshots of Domestic carriers, page 9 for screenshot of me on O2.
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I like how they're legally supposed to have it unlocked but still, here we are a half a year later.
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Its not as cut and dry as that. If you have to root the phone to move carriers technically you are in the wrong. If that is what you mean by unlocked.
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Its not as cut and dry as that. If you have to root the phone to move carriers technically you are in the wrong. If that is what you mean by unlocked.
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Actually you are wrong. He is referring to the FCC ruling. And we should not need to root to be unlocked. I think that is the point he was trying to make.
Does the inability to change APN affect only the domestic US carriers or is it true for any country's Sim card you put in for gsm use. (Verizon global phones have in the past operated where domestic sims don't work but international ones do)
systemf said:
Does the inability to change APN affect only the domestic US carriers or is it true for any country's Sim card you put in for gsm use. (Verizon global phones have in the past operated where domestic sims don't work but international ones do)
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I recently updated to the leaked K3 while traveling on business in the Philippines. While voice and text work, there is no way to add any new APN settings in both GSM/UMTS and Global modes. When clicking on Menu in the APN settings, the only option is to restore to default.
Note that while voice and text do work, there is a notification i the notification menu stating "Non-Verizon SIM: Sorry, this SIM card is not supported. Please..."
I believe that the frequency the carrier runs on is GSM900. Hope that helps clarify things. I spent way too much time trying to get 3G to work over here to no success.
Has anyone just tried using Verizon's Global Data Plan ($25 for 100 MB)? Is the S3 somehow not compatible with that plan?
I'm looking at getting the VZW S3 but I've heard all kinds of things about getting the Verizon S3 to work globally pre/post JB update. I know the local sim rates are much cheaper, but for an occasional traveler this is supposed to be the easy solution.
Longtime listener, first time post.
I have a Verizon S3 that was working in America flawlessly. I am on long-term travel in Europe and cannot get any signal with my German o2 SIM card. I have tried the hiAPN, APN Manager Pro, and Offline SIM APN methods, however I cannot register on any of the APNs found. When I try to manually connect to an APN, I get a connection error.
I have heard of others being able to get their Verizon S3 working abroad, however it seems they are at least able to see bars and connection. All I see is a circle with a slash through it.
Thoughts? Trying not to re-purchase the same phone.
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tapedshoes said:
Longtime listener, first time post.
I have a Verizon S3 that was working in America flawlessly. I am on long-term travel in Europe and cannot get any signal with my German o2 SIM card. I have tried the hiAPN, APN Manager Pro, and Offline SIM APN methods, however I cannot register on any of the APNs found. When I try to manually connect to an APN, I get a connection error.
I have heard of others being able to get their Verizon S3 working abroad, however it seems they are at least able to see bars and connection. All I see is a circle with a slash through it.
Thoughts? Trying not to re-purchase the same phone.
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Have you tired putting it in GSM or global mode under settings / mobile networks?.
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Have you tired putting it in GSM or global mode under settings / mobile networks?.
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Yes.
Use phone info app to select network type. I use Verizon GS3 in india with network type Gsm auto prl. I have no issues with data, calls or messages. Are you able to make calls or send messages?
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Galaxy S3 w/new T-mobile SIM, calls & texts but no data after APN set-up, need HELP!!
Help! I need to use old Verizon S3 temporarily on my T-Mobile account. I moved a T-Mobile SIM card into the S3, changed to GSM, and used my T-Mobile account to make calls and verified texting works. All of this with a notification that reads:
Phone Activation - "This SIM card is from an unknown source."
When I press on that message and hold it, I can open the "App Info" screen and see that it is from the Verizon "Setup Wizard" version 1.0 (which I cannot disable in application manager).
(FYI this SIM card works in an old NOTE 1 that I own, AND the data works; Originally the SIM was in my NOTE 4 that stopped working recently, but is another issue for later)
I have called T-Mobile and gone through the Access Point Names set-up:
Name: T-mobile US LTE
APN: fast.t-mobile.com
MMSC: http(added to allow this post)://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMC: 310
MNC: 260
APN type: internet+mms
APN protocol: IPv4/IPv6
APN roaming protocol: IPv4
(the rest are defaults)
After telling the T-mobile person about this SIM card message, he said he thought Verizon might have it locked so I called them and was told there is NO LOCK enabled on the S III phone per their records.
I looked on-line elsewhere and tried a couple of suggested "codes" but they did not work (failed without running).
I am at a loss on what to try next, so I am hoping someone "out there" has an idea (other than rebooting which I have done many times or factory resetting the device [it was already factory reset before I started]).
Thank you in advance everyone. I know someone probably knows exactly what is happening and I appreciate your efforts to help!
Rob
Headdog said:
Help! I need to use old Verizon S3 temporarily on my T-Mobile account...... ....
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If you take a look at the "Mobile networks and data" category on the following link (with the comparison of the Verizon and T-Mobile devices)...
https://www.phonemore.com/compare/p...16gb-vs-galaxy-s3-sch-i535-verizon-16gb/12090
... You'll notice that the Verizon uses the CDMA Network Bands and the T-Mobile uses the GSM Network Bands.
From what I can see, only a small part of the Network Band Frequencies will work while the others are not compatible.
This is why your Verizon device is just not capable of using all of the T-Mobile Frequencies on its towers. The CDMA and GSM is not cross compatible with each other.
A final clarification... There's nothing you can do to make the Verizon device able to Fully operate the GSM network.
I hope that I had explained this okay via text... :thumbup:
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Sorry for the delay (Christmas/New Year's and all) . . .
I have been able to get the phone to receive data at the "G2.5" level (I think it is called "Edge" and it shows up as an "E" on the phone). It is very slow and unreliable unless I am close to the tower. I never get 3G to work.
I do see that the frequencies are different between the Verizon and T-Mobile versions of the Samsung Galaxy S3 but those differences DO NOT affect calling or texting as far as I can tell (both calling and texting work fine). So I have to conclude that the differences only affect the data reception.
As an EE, I guess I was not aware that there were so many different frequency bands (i.e. one for calling, one for texting, one for 4G data, one for 3G data, etc.) and a new "set" between GSM and CMDA. Anyway, I have ordered a new phone so I can use the data I am paying for!
So in conclusion if you (Ibuprofen) mean "data" frequencies by the term "network bands" then you are spot on. However, for anyone that may care, the S3 phone DOES work on both GSM and CMDA networks for calling and data (with the proper SIM). Also you have to add a new APN set-up if you try to repeat what I tried to do.
Thanks everyone, I am letting this go (ending this thread) unless some new info comes to light.
I will be posting stuff about the "fun" I have had with my two Note 4 phones on that forum. It will be good for a laugh! Thanks all! -- Headdog (Rob)
Headdog said:
Sorry for the delay (Christmas/New Year's and all) . . .
I have been able to get the phone to receive data at the "G2.5" level (I think it is called "Edge" and it shows up as an "E" on the phone). It is very slow and unreliable unless I am close to the tower. I never get 3G to work.
I do see that the frequencies are different between the Verizon and T-Mobile versions of the Samsung Galaxy S3 but those differences DO NOT affect calling or texting as far as I can tell (both calling and texting work fine). So I have to conclude that the differences only affect the data reception.
As an EE, I guess I was not aware that there were so many different frequency bands (i.e. one for calling, one for texting, one for 4G data, one for 3G data, etc.) and a new "set" between GSM and CMDA. Anyway, I have ordered a new phone so I can use the data I am paying for!
So in conclusion if you (Ibuprofen) mean "data" frequencies by the term "network bands" then you are spot on. However, for anyone that may care, the S3 phone DOES work on both GSM and CMDA networks for calling and data (with the proper SIM). Also you have to add a new APN set-up if you try to repeat what I tried to do.
Thanks everyone, I am letting this go (ending this thread) unless some new info comes to light.
I will be posting stuff about the "fun" I have had with my two Note 4 phones on that forum. It will be good for a laugh! Thanks all! -- Headdog (Rob)
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Just to clarify...
If you looked at the following SGH-T999 vs the SCH-I535...
https://www.phonemore.com/compare/p...16gb-vs-galaxy-s3-sch-i535-verizon-16gb/12090
... You'll notice that the Verizon I535 uses CDMA and the T-Mobile T999 uses GSM.
Based upon that (above) information, I can see why the I535 isn't obtaining a 4G LTE signal from the T-Mobile towers and can confidently state that it never will.
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