I've read that the update will bring new global roaming capability, so has anyone tried to stick a GSM SIM into the phone yet? Does the new JB update bring unlocked 3G GSM?
No, it does not. I updated to 4.1.1 bone stock and got it to register on T-Mobile's network, but there is no way to change APN's, so data and text/mm do not work.
Now, before the update you could root and get a program to add in the APN of whichever network you wanted... folks (including myself) have had it on AT&T and T-Mobile's GSM networks, albeit without WCDMA ("3g"). Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895684 for progress on getting WCDMA working on the 1900 band. The phone works on the 2100 band out of the box, but no US carrier uses that for WCDMA.
Okay, that said, post-update, I am sure the same APN tricks that worked pre-update, will work now, but sadly one has to be rooted to do that. Attached are two screenshots from while I was farking about with it.
Why not root, then? No disadvantages that I can see
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I like how they're legally supposed to have it unlocked but still, here we are a half a year later.
ac21365 said:
No, it does not. I updated to 4.1.1 bone stock and got it to register on T-Mobile's network, but there is no way to change APN's, so data and text/mm do not work.
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To be honest, I'm amazed that VZW is allowing you to use another carrier's GSM SIM at all without some sort of unlock code (since this is the case with most phones sold in this country).
I assumed that their "Global Roaming" capability meant that you can take your SGS3 with the VZW SIM to countries (e.g. everywhere other than the USA) that only have GSM (WCDMA/HSDPA) and pay Verizon's extortion (roaming) fees. Maybe the lack of unlock is due to the fact that the phone's primary radios are LTE and CDMA?
If someone can confirm that rooting the phone will allow you to change the APNs it would be greatly appreciated. My family is vacationing in Costa Rica this winter. I've already acquired a couple of unlocked AT&T phones that we plan to use with local prepaid SIM cards, but it'd be nice to be able to have the option of using my I535 there as well.
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If someone can confirm that rooting the phone will allow you to change the APNs it would be greatly appreciated. My family is vacationing in Costa Rica this winter. I've already acquired a couple of unlocked AT&T phones that we plan to use with local prepaid SIM cards, but it'd be nice to be able to have the option of using my I535 there as well.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
Yep, had it on T-Mobile and AT&T (GSM only) here in the states, and worked great on O2 (with HSPA+ YAY) in Germany. Page 6 for my screenshots of Domestic carriers, page 9 for screenshot of me on O2.
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I like how they're legally supposed to have it unlocked but still, here we are a half a year later.
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Its not as cut and dry as that. If you have to root the phone to move carriers technically you are in the wrong. If that is what you mean by unlocked.
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Its not as cut and dry as that. If you have to root the phone to move carriers technically you are in the wrong. If that is what you mean by unlocked.
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Actually you are wrong. He is referring to the FCC ruling. And we should not need to root to be unlocked. I think that is the point he was trying to make.
Does the inability to change APN affect only the domestic US carriers or is it true for any country's Sim card you put in for gsm use. (Verizon global phones have in the past operated where domestic sims don't work but international ones do)
systemf said:
Does the inability to change APN affect only the domestic US carriers or is it true for any country's Sim card you put in for gsm use. (Verizon global phones have in the past operated where domestic sims don't work but international ones do)
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I recently updated to the leaked K3 while traveling on business in the Philippines. While voice and text work, there is no way to add any new APN settings in both GSM/UMTS and Global modes. When clicking on Menu in the APN settings, the only option is to restore to default.
Note that while voice and text do work, there is a notification i the notification menu stating "Non-Verizon SIM: Sorry, this SIM card is not supported. Please..."
I believe that the frequency the carrier runs on is GSM900. Hope that helps clarify things. I spent way too much time trying to get 3G to work over here to no success.
Has anyone just tried using Verizon's Global Data Plan ($25 for 100 MB)? Is the S3 somehow not compatible with that plan?
I'm looking at getting the VZW S3 but I've heard all kinds of things about getting the Verizon S3 to work globally pre/post JB update. I know the local sim rates are much cheaper, but for an occasional traveler this is supposed to be the easy solution.
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Is it true I can simply put an at&t sim card in the phone and use a dumb phone plan if I buy an unlocked ones? Also does it get at&t 3g?
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Besides SIM unlocking you need to perform the US band unlock as described both here, on Rootzwiki, and who knows where else, to use the DROID2 GLOBAL on AT&T or T-Mobile.
As AT&T uses standard WCDMA bands, yes, it will work with their 3G voice/data network as long as the band unlock hack is in place.
Gasai Yuno said:
Besides SIM unlocking you need to perform the US band unlock as described both here, on Rootzwiki, and who knows where else, to use the DROID2 GLOBAL on AT&T or T-Mobile.
As AT&T uses standard WCDMA bands, yes, it will work with their 3G voice/data network as long as the band unlock hack is in place.
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Thanks I couldn't find any posts that were newer than a year ago. Now to find someone selling one here with everything done.
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I doubt there are a lot of band unlocked D2Gs on sale as reflashing the SBF image breaks the hack.
You can perform the hack yourself provided you buy a SIM unlocked device.
Refer to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22769743 for instructions. Do note that whenever you soft-brick your device you will need to SBF back to 2.4.x and apply this hack.
Remember to never ever update the device to 4.5.629.
Thanks. Hopefully I get lucky but its Greta to have that link
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Gahh Its Lee said:
Is it true I can simply put an at&t sim card in the phone and use a dumb phone plan if I buy an unlocked ones? Also does it get at&t 3g?
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Dumb phone plan from who? If you get everything done (band unlock as described in the other posts) you can use your phone with an AT&T SIM and don't need any plan at all from Verizon. Is the theory that AT&T won't recognize it as a smart phone because it is not one that they ever sold?
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Dumb phone plan from who? If you get everything done (band unlock as described in the other posts) you can use your phone with an AT&T SIM and don't need any plan at all from Verizon. Is the theory that AT&T won't recognize it as a smart phone because it is not one that they ever sold?
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I guess so. I found a list of every phone that works for att dumb plans and it was on it.
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Any non-carrier-locked GSM phone that has compatible bands can work on AT&T's network. You don't even need a list, just check which bands AT&T uses and check the phone's tech specs.
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Any non-carrier-locked GSM phone that has compatible bands can work on AT&T's network. You don't even need a list, just check which bands AT&T uses and check the phone's tech specs.
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I think the problem is that people don't want AT&T to recognize the phone as a smartphone and helpfully add on a data package on postpaid plans, (presumably these people are intending to use Wifi for data). The claim was made that some people had moved a SIM from dumb phone to a smartphone purchased elsewhere, and suddenly they got billed for a data package. See, for example, http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/can-at-t-really-add-a-pricey-data-plan-onto-your-wireless-bill/2667
In the past, there were posts saying that you were "safe" if you used a model that AT&T had never sold, as their system would not be able to recognize it as a smartphone. Not sure how true this really is!
They probably detect it based on IMEIs. But yeah, it's just a speculation without clear facts.
I searched the Verizon Galaxy S3 forums and could find no discussion about the global capabilities of this phone. I had understood at purchase (pre-ordered) that an OTA update would be coming soon to turn on global capabilities. I have seen nothing yet. I have called Verizon, gone to local store (useless), contacted Samsung tech support both online and via telephone. Everyone just says they have no idea.
So, if I have rooted my phone and unlocked the bootloader, is there a way to turn on global capabilities? Or even easier, can I just buy a SIM card from a European provider and insert and it will work?
I appreciate any input on this. I am new to using a smartphone in Europe but I can't give it up now for even two weeks.
Just wait for the ota. Im due for a dominican republuc trip in 50 days. If i dont get the unlocking OTA before my trip im raising hell.
VZW GALAXY S 3 4G LTE
I want to know what people who live on/near a border do? If you live in US very near the Canada border, how do you stop your phone from roaming back & forth and bending you over on "international" charges, even though you technically are in the US.
Here is the thread you were looking for..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
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Thanks Beemer533.
Beemer533 said:
Here is the thread you were looking for..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
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Thanks for responding. I did find this thread a bit after I posted. Working through the steps.
Just a quick question on this topic. I've received the 4.1 OTA update from Verizon for the Galaxy S3. This update was supposed to bring global roaming capabilities. My question is, what does this mean? I know the thread linked above allows a Galaxy S3 to use other 3G networks but that involves rooting and complicated setups with APN (which, while I can certainly do, I'd rather not).
So, what does the default 4.1 configuration on Verizon get me? Can I go to, say, Japan and pop in a 3G SIM? Or is "roaming" simply roaming on any CDMA network? Is Verizon going to charge roaming fees?
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Just a quick question on this topic. I've received the 4.1 OTA update from Verizon for the Galaxy S3. This update was supposed to bring global roaming capabilities. My question is, what does this mean? I know the thread linked above allows a Galaxy S3 to use other 3G networks but that involves rooting and complicated setups with APN (which, while I can certainly do, I'd rather not).
So, what does the default 4.1 configuration on Verizon get me? Can I go to, say, Japan and pop in a 3G SIM? Or is "roaming" simply roaming on any CDMA network? Is Verizon going to charge roaming fees?
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I had a similar question and called Verizon. They confirmed that the 4.1 update unlocks the sim so that you can use any carrier overseas. However, if you need to modify APN's, good luck. There is no easy way to do that I've found without rooting. I'd rather not root my phone. I'm going to PAris and Rome in April and was hoping to use a sim card from iphonetrips. They have the best deals for unlimited data depending...
OK, so I am not an expert here but I know enough to give information that should help answer my question.
I have a Verizon (CDMA) Samsung Galaxy S3 (SCH-I535). I'd like to use this phone with a NET10 BYOD SIM card, but I'm not sure it will work. By all indications, my phone is a world phone that includes a GSM band. I say that because I can scan and attempt to connect to both AT&T and a local cell company that are both GSM services. In other words, I can select GSM/UMTS as a network option and it appears to work.
Trouble is, I don't have access to a GSM SIM, so there isn't any way for me to test this without spending money on the SIM card. SO in a round about way, I want to know if this will work. Can I buy a NET10 BYOD SIM, select GSM/UMTS under "Mobile Networks" in teh settings, and expect phone, text, and data to work?
I'm especially hoping to hear from people with the SCH-I535 Verizon GS3 if you've ever done this.
If this is not possible, is there any other BYOD SIM program that will allow for phone, text, and data in a CDMA Verizon phone? If so, what is it?
Thanks everyone.
If Verizon has not unlocked the phone off their carrier, then it will not work. (If you have the Jelly Bean Update, then its unlocked) If it is unlocked, then your in luck.
Mind you that I dont have this phone. But your phone is capable of ATT networks. Just avoid T-Mobile networks unless you want to be on EDGE.
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If Verizon has not unlocked the phone off their carrier, then it will not work. (If you have the Jelly Bean Update, then its unlocked) If it is unlocked, then your in luck.
Mind you that I dont have this phone. But your phone is capable of ATT networks. Just avoid T-Mobile networks unless you want to be on EDGE.
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Just to make sure I understand, if my phone is Android 4.1.2, then my phone is automatically unlocked and capable of use with an AT&T compatible SIM? And I suppose that includes the NET10 BYOD SIM, or the Straight Talk BYOD SIM for that matter?
How i Just do it con net 10 And is working but just edge .any suggestions settings to enable 4g ???
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Hi - I am trying to do the same thing, did you have any success? If so, can I get the details of how you did it?
Thanks!!
amusso18 said:
Just to make sure I understand, if my phone is Android 4.1.2, then my phone is automatically unlocked and capable of use with an AT&T compatible SIM? And I suppose that includes the NET10 BYOD SIM, or the Straight Talk BYOD SIM for that matter?
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Trying to do the same can anyone help me out?
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Trying to do the same can anyone help me out?
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Did you check your song settings? Make sure you have your phone on global mode as well.
Hi,
Just bought today the verizon variant of the galaxy s6, and I need help with a couple of questions:
I'm moving to Europe in the near future, would I still be able to use the phone?
From who do I get software updates? Will I get updates from verizon even if I'm abroad?
Would it be able to flash international firmware on this phone in the future? Are the models fundamentally different from each other or are they just handicapped by firmware?
Thanks in advance
yuviyuval said:
Hi,
Just bought today the verizon variant of the galaxy s6, and I need help with a couple of questions:
I'm moving to Europe in the near future, would I still be able to use the phone?
From who do I get software updates? Will I get updates from verizon even if I'm abroad?
Would it be able to flash international firmware on this phone in the future? Are the models fundamentally different from each other or are they just handicapped by firmware?
Thanks in advance
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Yes it works internationally, I'm using it on GSM right now and plan to use it in Egypt over the summer. You will get updates but I think verizon needs a verizon sim to check for updates but when one releases you can always check through a computer if you need to. As far as I know verizon one is the bay because it supports CDMA radios and GSM radios and comes pre unlocked while other versions like tmobile only support gsm. That's the only hardware difference, the rest is all software.
Also be careful with your phone! Nor sure where in Europe yuppie going but some classes visited Spain recently and lots of them we're pickpocketed and had something stopen.
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formerly abdel12345
supersmash19 said:
Yes it works internationally, I'm using it on GSM right now and plan to use it in Egypt over the summer. You will get updates but I think verizon needs a verizon sim to check for updates but when one releases you can always check through a computer if you need to. As far as I know verizon one is the bay because it supports CDMA radios and GSM radios and comes pre unlocked while other versions like tmobile only support gsm. That's the only hardware difference, the rest is all software.
Also be careful with your phone! Nor sure where in Europe yuppie going but some classes visited Spain recently and lots of them we're pickpocketed and had something stopen.
Sent from my Verizon S6,
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So just to clarify, I can just purchase an EE nano sim card from amazon, take my s6 to london, pop it in, and it should work? I don't have to call Verizon before hand to get it network unlocked?
voldyy said:
So just to clarify, I can just purchase an EE nano sim card from amazon, take my s6 to london, pop it in, and it should work? I don't have to call Verizon before hand to get it network unlocked?
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Correct. You may have to set up apns for data though. But text and voice should work out the box.
What can I do to use the GSM network, 3G !!!!
I live in china
zintung2911 said:
What can I do to use the GSM network, 3G !!!!
I live in china
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3G only for China Unicom. Add the APN of Unicom and then H+ will work.
voldyy said:
So just to clarify, I can just purchase an EE nano sim card from amazon, take my s6 to london, pop it in, and it should work? I don't have to call Verizon before hand to get it network unlocked?
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920V is different from the international version. It supports very few LTE bands and i'm not sure it supports as many 2g/3g bands as the internation one. you may have voice but you won't have LTE.
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Correct. You may have to set up apns for data though. But text and voice should work out the box.
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Hi,
Didn't u have the same issue with texting?
I bought my s6 from verizon on a trip in the USA, but I live in UK and using 3 network. The only issue is the texting. I spent lot of time to figure out what is the real problem, and it seems like it is sort of prefix problem. If I receive message from someone with new number with +4407 (obviously all of them start) and I reply, message is not going to be sent and I always get a message: " Your text to speech message to 0114407..... has been rejected by recipient phone." I never use text speech btw, and it definitely prefix problem because if I send to 07... only they receive it. I changed all my contacts to 07... but still after that I couldn't reply to messages for a long time just only with the Handcent next sms app. But If I receive a new message from a new number I'll get with +447.. and I need to save it and change the number to 07.. otherwise it will never work. I found some people had the same issue in the past, but there was no final solutions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106370
http://thedroidguy.com/2015/07/solutions-for-samsung-galaxy-s4-sms-mms-problems-part-2-110209
I am just wondering how is this gonna work abroad if I even can't use in the UK. I rooted and put clear rom, but still same.
toskabab said:
Correct. You may have to set up apns for data though. But text and voice should work out the box.
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How do I add a new APN? I found Settings -> Mobile networks -> Access Point Names but the "Add" button is greyed out
I am seeing it greyed out as well. I was planning on getting UK 3 sim cards for our trip next year.
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I am trying to buy the international SM-N920R version of a Note 5 so I can root it.
Will it work on Verizon? I found out that it will work on all of Verizon's bands from this site willmyphonework.net but just want to double tap to ensure I am not wasting my money because just because it should work on Verizon's network I need to know if it is Verizon approved. I don't have the Meid or the ESN to check this so does anyone know for sure? I should be able to pop my Sim from my Turbo and it should work on the international version right?
RoachHero said:
I am trying to buy the international SM-N920R version of a Note 5 so I can root it.
Will it work on Verizon? I found out that it will work on all of Verizon's bands from this site willmyphonework.net but just want to double tap to ensure I am not wasting my money because just because it should work on Verizon's network I need to know if it is Verizon approved. I don't have the Meid or the ESN to check this so does anyone know for sure? I should be able to pop my Sim from my Turbo and it should work on the international version right?
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I highly doubt it, but I'd love to know the answer too. I'd switch phones in a heartbeat.
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Why do you doubt it would work? Just curious. The phone operates on all the same bands Verizon does. I could just ask Verizon permission to operate on their network, I'd rathered not. I don't see why it wouldn't work after I throw my SIM in it, but if it doesn't I can ask permission. The only carrier that Verizon says outright no to is Sprint.
I kinda doubt it'll work, but I'm very interested as well, if it works, I'd switch right away.
RoachHero said:
I am trying to buy the international SM-N920R version of a Note 5 so I can root it.
Will it work on Verizon? I found out that it will work on all of Verizon's bands from this site willmyphonework.net but just want to double tap to ensure I am not wasting my money because just because it should work on Verizon's network I need to know if it is Verizon approved. I don't have the Meid or the ESN to check this so does anyone know for sure? I should be able to pop my Sim from my Turbo and it should work on the international version right?
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It doesn't have band 13 which I think is Verizon's main LTE band
I wonder if the OP has tried it and gotten it to work.
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RoachHero said:
I am trying to buy the international SM-N920R version of a Note 5 so I can root it.
Will it work on Verizon? I found out that it will work on all of Verizon's bands from this site willmyphonework.net but just want to double tap to ensure I am not wasting my money because just because it should work on Verizon's network I need to know if it is Verizon approved. I don't have the Meid or the ESN to check this so does anyone know for sure? I should be able to pop my Sim from my Turbo and it should work on the international version right?
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If its an unlocked international version and it for sure is CDMA compatible it will work on Verizon's network, and I doubt there will be any hassle connecting it other than the usual service fees. However, I highly doubt that taking your SIM card from your Turbo will actually work, as SIM cards on Verizon's CDMA network are not like the SIM cards of GSM networks where you can take and switch from phone to phone and they work. I have tried this with my phones , a Note 5 and a Note 2 and also a Google Nexus and had anywhere from limited service to no service, I think because Verizon has their SIM cards tied to the actual IMEI of the phone, at least that's my thought. But hey If it works be sure to let us know as I know I would do the same to get root.
it does work. you need to have a verizon sim card that is already active. you have to activate the sim in a verizon phone before starting. you can use any us cellular device that is unlocked on verizon. the s6 edge, edge plus , note 5 all ship unlocked. theyre gsm capable also. the only issue with gsm is that you cant edit the apn. which is what brought me here. looking for a custom rom that would allow me to do so. you get 3g only using a uscc device on verizon and no mms.
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If its an unlocked international version and it for sure is CDMA compatible it will work on Verizon's network, and I doubt there will be any hassle connecting it other than the usual service fees. However, I highly doubt that taking your SIM card from your Turbo will actually work, as SIM cards on Verizon's CDMA network are not like the SIM cards of GSM networks where you can take and switch from phone to phone and they work. I have tried this with my phones , a Note 5 and a Note 2 and also a Google Nexus and had anywhere from limited service to no service, I think because Verizon has their SIM cards tied to the actual IMEI of the phone, at least that's my thought. But hey If it works be sure to let us know as I know I would do the same to get root.
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verizon sim cards are just like gsm cards. all you have to do is put the card in your new device to switch the service. obvisouly the device would have to have a cdma radio to connect to anything other than lte service but you dont need to provide verizon with meid of your phone when switching.
bradsinram said:
it does work. you need to have a verizon sim card that is already active. you have to activate the sim in a verizon phone before starting. you can use any us cellular device that is unlocked on verizon. the s6 edge, edge plus , note 5 all ship unlocked. theyre gsm capable also. the only issue with gsm is that you cant edit the apn. which is what brought me here. looking for a custom rom that would allow me to do so. you get 3g only using a uscc device on verizon and no mms.
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verizon sim cards are just like gsm cards. all you have to do is put the card in your new device to switch the service. obvisouly the device would have to have a cdma radio to connect to anything other than lte service but you dont need to provide verizon with meid of your phone when switching.
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I don't know if my experience applies here, but I did once switch a user's iPad Air 2 to verizon by just switching the SIM card to a Verizon card. This was done in conjuction with Verizon's corporate customer service who even sent me the SIM card I needed free of charge (probably because it was part of our corporate contract - assume they would probaly not do that for an individual).
I am currently on a Us Cellular r4 variant, and Using a Note 7 ported rom I messed with to work on it.
I often see the carrier on my notification tab say "Verizon"
I know that our phones are locked open, which means in the advanced system menu, ALL channels are locked open, and at least on my phone, I am able to recieve and process signal from most carriers. Our service is LTE/CDMA
I havent tried using a verizon sim to see if it works, but the r4 variant is supposedly "International"... The rom I ported was done by a Vietnamese guy...IDK. All i know is that it works after twrp restoring modem and efs