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Really liking my new TF but does anyone else think that the charging connector is a bit delicate? If this breaks there is NO other way to charge the unit (I don't have a dock yet).
Why didn't they use a mini/micro usb? ALL my phones have these and I can interchange chargers...also if they had used a standard connector, I could have a charger at home, one at work, one in the car...
I must order a spare now...
DAVE©
Dave© said:
Really liking my new TF but does anyone else think that the charging connector is a bit delicate? If this breaks there is NO other way to charge the unit (I don't have a dock yet).
Why didn't they use a mini/micro usb? ALL my phones have these and I can interchange chargers...also if they had used a standard connector, I could have a charger at home, one at work, one in the car...
I must order a spare now...
DAVE©
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It seems pretty resistant to abuse. I've abused mine a lot (being squashed inbetween furniture, being banged, being slammed) and no damage at all yet.
Seems sturdy enough to me...
Sturdy is fine. What happens if you lose it?
I'm generally very kind to my gear (my two year old car still smells new, says my coworkers!), and it doesn't take a lot of effort to be gentle, but I still worry about single-point-of-failure situations like the cable and charger. Especially since spares are pretty much not yet available.
I'm just hoping my good luck with not losing or breaking **** holds out!
Dave© said:
Really liking my new TF but does anyone else think that the charging connector is a bit delicate? If this breaks there is NO other way to charge the unit (I don't have a dock yet).
Why didn't they use a mini/micro usb? ALL my phones have these and I can interchange chargers...also if they had used a standard connector, I could have a charger at home, one at work, one in the car...
I must order a spare now...
DAVE©
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Then you haven't seen the XOOM charger... It's a metal pin, about 1.5 mm thick and not even inserting all the way. The ASUS connector seems just fine. Plus, a very similar connector has been used in Apple products for years and they kept it
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Sturdy is fine. What happens if you lose it?
I'm generally very kind to my gear (my two year old car still smells new, says my coworkers!), and it doesn't take a lot of effort to be gentle, but I still worry about single-point-of-failure situations like the cable and charger. Especially since spares are pretty much not yet available.
I'm just hoping my good luck with not losing or breaking **** holds out!
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Get a new one, apparently there ARE spare cables available now or in the very near future.
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Get a new one, apparently there ARE spare cables available now or in the very near future.
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I asked Asus via email a few days ago regarding replacement chargers, the response i got i have pasted below for you -
"At the moment they (adapters) are not available yet.
Kind regards,
Asus UK Support Team"
I was hoping for an ETA being given, but looks like they dont know when they will be available, or they are just not saying.
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I asked Asus via email a few days ago regarding replacement chargers, the response i got i have pasted below for you -
"At the moment they (adapters) are not available yet.
Kind regards,
Asus UK Support Team"
I was hoping for an ETA being given, but looks like they dont know when they will be available, or they are just not saying.
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pictures are out, I'm pretty sure there is even a page up somewhere where you can pre-order them or atleast get auto notifcation for when they get released.
I think it is sturdy enough unless youre going out of your way to abuse it just like any other device
The sturdiness doesn't bother me, it's the ridiculously short length of the cable. I can't even charge it on my desk, I have to set it on a shelf out of sight to charge. Hopefully my second stab at a USB 3 extension cable will charge it.
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Why didn't they use a mini/micro usb? ALL my phones have these and I can interchange chargers...
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Mostly because those cables can't carry enough power to do the job with these larger batteries. Hell, the TF can't charge on USB unless the screen is off. That shows how much power it needs.
First things first just got my transformer and it is awesome! However the little charger thing is rubbish the plug that connects to it didn't seem to want to connect so after applying more force I managed to sort of wedge it on. However it is quite loose and any movement stops it charging! Are you supposed to push some sort of tab to attach the plug or does everybody else have this problem? Its a UK plug BTW
I'd guess youre not pushing hard enough!
If you fingers arent going white and they dont hurt afterwards, you need to push harder.
When fully connected the flat bottom of the UK plug overlaps the bottom of the adapter by less than the thickness of a fingernail.
Apparently it's very difficult to connect the two pieces. Many people have said that they thought their charger would break with the amount of force needed. Maybe try pushing harder? I can't help you any more than that I'm afraid as I don't have my TF yet.
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Apparently it's very difficult to connect the two pieces. Many people have said that they thought their charger would break with the amount of force needed. Maybe try pushing harder? I can't help you any more than that I'm afraid as I don't have my TF yet.
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Once they are connected - Try taking them apart again, Impossible!
Gave it a good shove and broke that little plastic thing that sticks out off :-S nothing abit of duck tape didn't fix though. Still seems a shame the build quality of the tablet and especially the keyboard is very high then they give us a crap charger and tiny wire. Also one charger for both the tablet and keyboard!
I had this issue and it ended up bending the little plastic bit which I used a knife to push it back to shape and then managed to clip it in. This makes me think it wasn't perfectly lined up in the first place so guess you have to have it perfect otherwise you will end up breaking that little plastic bit off.
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Once they are connected - Try taking them apart again, Impossible!
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whoa you're right D: I just tried.
My charger was already connected to the plug. It almost seems like one piece. Do the US unit have one piece charger?
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My charger was already connected to the plug. It almost seems like one piece. Do the US unit have one piece charger?
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US chargers do not come in one piece...i know, cause i lost mine...:-T...waiting for asus or a 3rd party to start selling some adapters to charge...borrowing a friends charger in the meantime since he got a transformer too...
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US chargers do not come in one piece...i know, cause i lost mine...:-T...waiting for asus or a 3rd party to start selling some adapters to charge...borrowing a friends charger in the meantime since he got a transformer too...
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following a tip from another user i went to best buy and purchased a dynex dx-ua which comes with many different tips one being a usb tip. It works perfect for the transformer and the cord is really long. I finally have my new transformer charging since the plug that came with it did not work at all. the dynex dx-ua is 29.99 at bestbuy try it out if you need a charger.
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following a tip from another user i went to best buy and purchased a dynex dx-ua which comes with many different tips one being a usb tip. It works perfect for the transformer and the cord is really long. I finally have my new transformer charging since the plug that came with it did not work at all. the dynex dx-ua is 29.99 at bestbuy try it out if you need a charger.
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Does this unit have a 15 volt setting to match the original charger?
The easiest and safest way is probably alligning it and oush it in on a flat surface. That's what I did and it went in without a sweat. These kind of chargers are quiet common now so manufactures only have one charger for the whole-world making it easier to produce and all they have to do is give you different sockets for different regions.
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Does this unit have a 15 volt setting to match the original charger?
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it has switches that go from 3.3 to 11 volts but its charging my transformer fine.
the dynex charges at 11 volts / 1.5 amps. its a much better idea then using the crap charger that is supplied. here is a pic of my melted charger.
Because my charger keeps stopping (and the freezer trick works), I have to pretty much keep my charger in the freezer all the time when I'm not using it. This is really annoying!! Besides buying the Dynex universal charger or soldering my own charger, are there any other fixes yet for this awful charging issue?
I have trouble with the charger also, the cable is fine though. The one thing that has worked for me is running it on my car charger. its a 12v power converter and works everytime. ofcourse, you try this and bring it back to the wall charger. I would try that before going out and buying another charger.
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I have trouble with the charger also, the cable is fine though. The one thing that has worked for me is running it on my car charger. its a 12v power converter and works everytime. ofcourse, you try this and bring it back to the wall charger. I would try that before going out and buying another charger.
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Do you mean a power inverter? Is the only place you can reliably charge your TF in your car?
Can you RMA your charger? Asus sells the charger and cable on their site, so they are available. If you want to buy one in a store they are available. I don't know where you are, but here in the US Office Depot sells the pair for $30.
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Can you RMA your charger? Asus sells the charger and cable on their site, so they are available. If you want to buy one in a store they are available. I don't know where you are, but here in the US Office Depot sells the pair for $30.
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Yes, but the concern is that so many people are having this problem. Who's to say that if I RMA the charger, the replacement charger I get won't start doing the same thing?
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Yes, but the concern is that so many people are having this problem. Who's to say that if I RMA the charger, the replacement charger I get won't start doing the same thing?
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No guarantee, but there are plenty of people like me that have never had an issue (other than the USB 3 cable is too short).
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No guarantee, but there are plenty of people like me that have never had an issue (other than the USB 3 cable is too short).
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Well that's good to hear... That is the first time ever hearing that someones charger is working properly!
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Well that's good to hear... That is the first time ever hearing that someones charger is working properly!
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I suspect that every person who posts an issue with their charger there are 100 that have no problems. It's the old internet problem multiplier effect at work.
Until yesterday, my TF700 was working perfectly fine, but now I'm concerned as the battery in both the dock and the tablet have stopped working.
The AC adaptor's connected to the dock and I always charged both the tablet and the dock together for the most part.
I went to check the device this morning and suddenly found that they're not working at all.
Yesterday evening, I tried switching on the tablet and it would switch on and reach the ASUS screen, but not fully boot up.
I bought it from Amazon's Amazon Warehouse division and I have until the 31st to return this, but in the meantime, I'd like to know why the batteries have died on me suddenly and is there anything I can do about it.
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Until yesterday, my TF700 was working perfectly fine, but now I'm concerned as the battery in both the dock and the tablet have stopped working.
The AC adaptor's connected to the dock and I always charged both the tablet and the dock together for the most part.
I went to check the device this morning and suddenly found that they're not working at all.
Yesterday evening, I tried switching on the tablet and it would switch on and reach the ASUS screen, but not fully boot up.
I bought it from Amazon's Amazon Warehouse division and I have until the 31st to return this, but in the meantime, I'd like to know why the batteries have died on me suddenly and is there anything I can do about it.
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If it's a genuine hardware failure, you'd have to return -- unless you're very proficient at handling and replacing sensitive electronics yourself (microwelding, for example).
It has been reported before, and could be fixe din almost every case by letting the 700 be dead for at least an hour, and then let it fully charge while off (!) -- just let it sit hoked up to the wall charger for at least 8 hours. Then try to turn it on again.
Good luck.
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If it's a genuine hardware failure, you'd have to return -- unless you're very proficient at handling and replacing sensitive electronics yourself (microwelding, for example).
It has been reported before, and could be fixe din almost every case by letting the 700 be dead for at least an hour, and then let it fully charge while off (!) -- just let it sit hoked up to the wall charger for at least 8 hours. Then try to turn it on again.
Good luck.
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I'll give that advice of yours a try especially as I don't want to have to return it if it's something that can be easily sorted out.
borgmanjayce said:
I'll give that advice of yours a try especially as I don't want to have to return it if it's something that can be easily sorted out.
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It never hurts trying -- you aren't exactly the first to describe this, but luckily, pretty much all of the others were saved.
I finally managed to get the problem sorted out as it seems that the connection to the port on the keyboard had somehow come a bit loose without me noticing it.
Unfortunately, I have a new problem in that the cable itself seems to have died in that it won't work any more with the adapter as it started crackling a bit when I knocked the connector attached to the AC adaptor itself gently by accident. :crying:
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I finally managed to get the problem sorted out as it seems that the connection to the port on the keyboard had somehow come a bit loose without me noticing it.
Unfortunately, I have a new problem in that the cable itself seems to have died in that it won't work any more with the adapter as it started crackling a bit when I knocked the connector attached to the AC adaptor itself gently by accident. :crying:
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Well, I hope I am right in assuming this is not your luckiest week, huh? Is the cable damaged near the wall charging part? (That's what I understand.) The replacement cables probably are not that expensive, so I'd plonk down on a new one instead of initiating "daredevil repair mode".
Saying that gives me that MacGyver feeling. Duct tape and a pair of scissors would be all that he needs to fix this.
Oh, and maybe a pair of toothpicks and an old sock, just for looks.
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Well, I hope I am right in assuming this is not your luckiest week, huh? Is the cable damaged near the wall charging part? (That's what I understand.) The replacement cables probably are not that expensive, so I'd plonk down on a new one instead of initiating "daredevil repair mode".
Saying that gives me that MacGyver feeling. Duct tape and a pair of scissors would be all that he needs to fix this.
Oh, and maybe a pair of toothpicks and an old sock, just for looks.
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The cable itself is fine (it's not worn down to the wire literally like a lot of cables and AC adapters you get for devices like iPods and Galaxy S II's), it's just that it has this weird burnt-like smell at the end connector that plus into the USB socket on the AC adaptor.
As for replacement cables, I'm surprised that they're not that easy to buy offline.
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The cable itself is fine (it's not worn down to the wire literally like a lot of cables and AC adapters you get for devices like iPods and Galaxy S II's), it's just that it has this weird burnt-like smell at the end connector that plus into the USB socket on the AC adaptor.
As for replacement cables, I'm surprised that they're not that easy to buy offline.
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Agreed -- buying them offline is a definite hassle. I have seen them online, though, and you can even hunt down the charger parts or the TF101 and TF201 Prime. They will work flawlessly.
BTW and FWIW (gotta love acronyms), my charging cable smells a bit funny at the end too. This specific one has to put through a lot of power, so I'm not even that surprised.
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Agreed -- buying them offline is a definite hassle. I have seen them online, though, and you can even hunt down the charger parts or the TF101 and TF201 Prime. They will work flawlessly.
BTW and FWIW (gotta love acronyms), my charging cable smells a bit funny at the end too. This specific one has to put through a lot of power, so I'm not even that surprised.
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The net of this ... power smells! (sorry, couldn't resist!)
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The net of this ... power smells! (sorry, couldn't resist!)
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LOL!
In all seriousness though, I love my TF700, it's just a shame that it's such a pain in the ass (not literally!) to buy official accessories in the shops and it's not as if you can buy a USB cable for it in the shops unlike ones for the iPod, iPad and iPhone.
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LOL!
In all seriousness though, I love my TF700, it's just a shame that it's such a pain in the ass (not literally!) to buy official accessories in the shops and it's not as if you can buy a USB cable for it in the shops unlike ones for the iPod, iPad and iPhone.
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No, it's a definite PITA
-- I had hoped that the new EU rulings concerning all smartphones needing to provide a microUSB charging input would extend to tablts, but so far this has not been the case, unfortunately.
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The net of this ... power smells! (sorry, couldn't resist!)
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I risked saying that the tip of my ... smells funny on the interwebz and came away with it! </increased self-esteem>
LOL!
Just giving you guys a update concerning my device: It seems now that both batteries don't want to work any more for some reason or other as of yesterday. I've checked both the official USB cable and a third-party cable plugged into the official USB plug and they're not charging up the device at all.
The tablet can connect to my laptop as a media device without any problems, but I'm confused as to why it's not working at all when plugged into a USB adapter.
In any case, I'm going to order a AC adapter from eBay later today and see if that works or not.
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Just giving you guys a update concerning my device: It seems now that both batteries don't want to work any more for some reason or other as of yesterday. I've checked both the official USB cable and a third-party cable plugged into the official USB plug and they're not charging up the device at all.
The tablet can connect to my laptop as a media device without any problems, but I'm confused as to why it's not working at all when plugged into a USB adapter.
In any case, I'm going to order a AC adapter from eBay later today and see if that works or not.
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I wish you the best of luck! :good:
Google product engineer +BensonLeung has tested several cables, and the vast majority of them fail to meet the Type C specification, some even dangerously drawing too much power.
Interesting to note that the hugely popular Orzly cables fail his tests.
can't even trust the word "certified by **** company" on the products anymore. that's why you just can't ignore product reviewers.
Haha, I was just coming to post this myself. Its good we have people looking out for this sort of thing. Stuff like this always pops up in the early phases of new tech or standard roll outs. Remember all the faulty knock off lightning cables for apple stuff when that first launched?
Potentially bad news for those of us with the One+ cables though;
+Rajesh Handa , +Guille Laca, +Jared Valles, +Steven Lefkoff, unfortunately I have bad news about the One+ cables. The One+ cables, despite ostensibly being from a 1st party phone maker, are out of spec. They use an incorrect 3A configuration as well.
I haven't reviewed them on Amazon because they aren't for sale there directly from One+
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Potentially bad news for those of us with the One+ cables though;
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Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
krs360 said:
Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.
It sucks he has not recommended any chargers or USB-C to USB-C cables. The only cables he has reviewed are USB A to USB-C and it is my understanding that these will not quick charge the device anyhow.
I have started a Google Sheet to track USB Type C cables and accessories. I have also enhanced to include N5X and N6P products. Check it out!
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It sucks he has not recommended any chargers or USB-C to USB-C cables. The only cables he has reviewed are USB A to USB-C and it is my understanding that these will not quick charge the device anyhow.
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I'm using the Google one that came with my phone right now plugged in to my USB 3.0 port on my PC, and it says "Charging Rapidly".
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I'm using the Google one that came with my phone right now plugged in to my USB 3.0 port on my PC, and it says "Charging Rapidly".
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Not to change gears but I topped my 6p off yesterday before first boot up and let it and my htc m8 both drain completely, them plugged 6p to packaged charger and my m8 to a nexus 6 fast charger and a 6-ft micro usb I bought fro at&t and the m8 charged... Much... Faster. Are Google's fast charging claims unfounded or is the N6 charger from Motorola just that fast?
Might repost this in q&a aub, but was wondering how your experience hs been thusfar.
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Not to change gears but I topped my 6p off yesterday before first boot up and let it and my htc m8 both drain completely, them plugged 6p to packaged charger and my m8 to a nexus 6 fast charger and a 6-ft micro usb I bought fro at&t and the m8 charged... Much... Faster. Are Google's fast charging claims unfounded or is the N6 charger from Motorola just that fast?
Might repost this in q&a aub, but was wondering how your experience hs been thusfar.
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Remember that the M8 has a 2,600 mAh battery and the 6P has a 3,450 mAh battery. The 6P battery is almost 35% larger than the M8, and will require more time to charge. How much charge did the 6P have when the M8 finished charging?
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Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.
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Ditto. I bought 3 and I might keep them for slow charging, like overnight. The price wasn't bad.
That's is a very fair point and good question. If I'm not mistaken between 65-75%. Nothing crazy, but one thing I will say, I play a game that drains the battery very badly, even after I close and even force close the app (love it so much I am willing to live with it) but I drained it all the way back down this morning playing the game and instead of turning it back on and starting the charge from 1% and leaving it on so I can track its progress (after a restart, the game normally doesn't cause any battery drain until I open it again), I left it off to charge, and I came back less than 40 minutes later and the thing was full.. I couldn't believe it so I turned it on and unplugged it and sure enough, 98%. It could be that the game was causing such drain (which is scary because the it never eats battery after a reboot) that it slowed the charging process, but I guess I'll never know for sure.
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Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.
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I emailed them as well to cancel my order and refund me in full. Waiting on a response.
should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.
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should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.
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Based on the text in his reviews, it sounds like the risk of damage is to your charger, not your phone. The phone can (obviously) handle a 3A charging speed but a USB A charger most likely cannot.
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Ditto. I bought 3 and I might keep them for slow charging, like overnight. The price wasn't bad.
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I was thinking the same thing. I bought 2 sets, just keep them around for data transfer and such as most of my stuff will be attached to google official chargers Type C to Type C. May as well, they are beautiful.
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should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables?
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That's all I want to know: can I use these "sketchy" cables with an old Motorola charger that's 5V/1A. I have a bunch of these chargers in various places, and I would just like to have the option to top off. Not to mention my car charger.
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should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.
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Eh I personally wont run the risk of ruining my $500 smartphone by skimping out on $10 for a nicer cable.
Any adapter advice?
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Google product engineer +BensonLeung has tested several cables, and the vast majority of them fail to meet the Type C specification, some even dangerously drawing too much power.
Interesting to note that the hugely popular Orzly cables fail his tests.
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Hey everyone! As you all know im always doing reviews on loads of products and have reviewed these cables with the OnePlus 2! Obviously they work perfectly for that as they were built for the OnePlus 2 originally. I did contact them though and they did let me know that as soon as it was brought to there attention they corrected the issue and i actually received the new version of the cable today and i will review it and have the video up tomorrow! For everyone using a OnePlus 2 its nothing to worry about though. The only items that it could affect are things that power at 3A so just keep that in mind before you go throwing out your cables!
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The only items that it could affect are things that power at 3A so just keep that in mind before you go throwing out your cables!
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