I finally decided I would take some extreme measures to aide the BL of my Androids. I have an HTC Inspire and HTC HD2 with Nexus S Android. The HD2 isn't all that bad...much better BL than the Inspire, but I wanted to apply this measure to both phones. Will it help? Only time will tell.
I started by removing all screen widgets. Then I sorted the screen icons so that a minimum of homescreens were needed...got it down to 2 homescreens. Then I deleted all widgets without apps not able to be opened through an icon. Then I went into Applications manager and cleared and stopped all non-used apps and services. I also deleted all duplicate services such as OEM email accounts and their associated syncing....using add-in apps for them. (example: built-in apps and widgets like Facebook, Twitter are uninstalled or disabled and am using another combining app like Seesmic. Same goes for the email app)
What I currently have is an Android iPhone. I'm using only icons on the 2 homescreens. And this makes me understand why Apple refuses to use widgets and stick with icons...to preserve BL. I hope this will improve the BL of my Androids because it is purely horrendous. And it is horrendous with all Androids I've tried and used.
Until the recently announced battery tech breakthrough is made available, this might have to be how Android is used from now on. But I doubt these extreme measures will actually help.
What is the difference between a widget and an application?
An application is a single, whole program package that is loaded into the phone. Examples would be Tapatalk, the default Calculator, and Angry Birds.
An application can have one or more widgets in it -- a widget is an interactive thing you can place on the home screen. It can give you information, and you can tap on it to change what it says. A good example of that would be Beautiful Widgets, or the little Android guy that tells you about how to use your new phone.
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@Marty, how long was your battery lasting prior to the "Extreme Makeover"? Mine currently will last me 2 days. Admittedly, I've not loaded a lot of stuff on the phone yet, and I have the power saver mode start at 70%...but I only need to recharge every other day.
My desire lasts around 2 days with moderate usage. But on a good day (read: many boring moments), it's completely depleted by the end of the day. My biggest battery drainer is whatsapp, if I uninstall the app my battery will last a LOT longer.
If i really need my phone to last for a long time (when Im on a big trip or on a festival) I always use JuiceDefender with a very strict setting. This is a big help, but not for everyday use
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
Ive dont the same thing, I also found some build prop and init.d tweaks that improve battery life.
my brightness is always at minimum, i have only one widget,
My battery could last two days BUT i use my phone a lot. like its on for 7 hours with 4.5 hrs screen on.
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whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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Hilarious.
ther have been many apps and disucssions on BL. heres some common tips.
screen to lowest brightness possible setting. background data always off unless using market. disable -use wireless networks- options, no gps, no location. also turn off *back up my data*. wifi always off not in use. screeen timeout no more than 2 minutes. turn off animations and transitions. setcpu with moderate settings (if you can do a screen off profile it will be beneficial but beware Sleep of Death.) no live wallpapers. minimum widgets or none. minimum homescreens or 1. startup manger. adfree. location cache app. and battery calibration to get the most juice.
the issues seems to be alot with hardware the Htc inspire and HD2 have 1250 Mah Batteries , which are very small.
If some people are just like me... I can kill at 1800mah battery in 5 hours even at full charge...
I do everything on my smartphone. So anything to save the battery is a good way.
I have the Galaxsy S II and I've managed to drain the battery in 6hours of usage and since I'm not near a power source most of the time then yeah I need all the juice....
I don't sit in an office or am near a power source 80% of the time. I usually carry 2 spare batteries with me and a charger for them just in case.
Cheers! (Extreme power user).
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whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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grudas said:
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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Whats the point??
Here is my daily usage :
Alarm goes off at 6:30am (phone gets unplugged)
Blahblah (at work) reply to emails and messages throughout the day, on twitter A LOT (plume premium)
2 calls approx 30 mins each
Play some games at break and lunchtime (Drag racing KILLS my battery, a bit of plants vs zombies, grave defence HD and maybe some pinball deluxe)
more emails and twitter
another 20min call
a little more gaming while im waiting on customers (1hr or so??)
6pm go home for 6:30pm
BAM! battery is at 10-20% and i need to plug it in again.
this is a typical 12hr day for me and im sure others have longer days and i would appreciate not having to rush home (sometimes) if im expecting a call.
so as far as im concerned anything which will save some precious battery on my devices is appreciated.
btw i have reduced my homescreens to 3 and only have 2 widgets running and that has made a great difference to my battery life (esp. on the DHD)
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Basically kill factory and carrier bloatware and you are getting better.
One thing I was amazed about was the eBook reader that comes with our Galaxy Tabs, and suppose others too.. it always working even if you dont have or use it.
And remember, the screen is what takes most out of your BL, always. Lower brightness? Get a better ROM with no bloatware and maybe undervolt the screen.
Homescreens dont change a bit. Widgets do, if they update a lot.. more than that notification stuff do. Like if you use a antivirus or antisomething, just check of notifications.. check of any unneeded notifications.
Vibration theorically is what consumes the most.. but since its not as used as the screen, you dont even compare them. But every little bit helps. Check off keyboard clicks and hepatic feedback - vibrations.
Wifi, bluetooth, data... don't actually consume much.. actually it's better if you leave a service stable on, than keep sleeping and switching it. So leave wifi always on, no sleep policy. But when you go out turn it of so it doesnt keep scanning all the time (unless you want to ).
Just like any PC, the more you install.... Just check what you got going on, learn how to check processes and services that keep on all the time, and there are some utils to help stop some crap from starting up. I use ROM Toolbox and Autostarts.. some stuff get activated just because you plug you device to charge!
DONT use task killers... dont let anything like that keep running... and no, GMail push notifications wont use any batt. Maybe pop/imap emails always pollling will use some.. but probably nothing compared to the examples above.
Cheers for my 2 cents.
EDIT: and after Xmas, remove those animated wallpapers!
Is Juice Defender a task killer? Not really sure what is it but I've been wondering about that.
Juice Defender Ultimate has been giving me about a 1/3 more time with screen on max. Why is my screen on max, because I was trying to drain the phone. It's on about 40% now which is still pretty bright. I wouldn't be mad to get more life but I think 20+ hrs with moderate use isn't bad. I think the most I did was search the net about 4 hours total. But I was also, customizing, so it the screen was lit for a while.
This is a TMO GSII I'm talking about.
There are a ton of things you can do, but the truth of it all is that our 3G/4G radios pull so hard they drain the battery, which is why you were on the right track when you disable active since, Facebook and Twitter.
The main two things I do, is
1. add a widget for turning off 3G or 4G (If its in your area).
2. Installed Startup Manager ( it disables startup programs in the unseen background, (my phone is rooted)).
by doing these two things I am able to get 17hrs+ on a standard HTC EVO 4G battery. Keep in mind the more you use the Internet the more it will drain your battery. So I only turn the internet connection on when I need it or the app needs it.
*I also only use one screen and remove unnecessary widgets but I find that doesn't help the battery life all that much, (my personal Preference)
*When I or my sons game on my phone I put it on Airplane more which turns off all Radios including the Phone (call/text)
*Drawback to turning 3G off, you have to wait a few second for the internet to come back on and MMS won't download through your messenger unless have it one.
I've been off the charge for 8hrs and my battery life is still at 65%
Sorry to be long winded but if I know anything its battery life
Completely agree. What's the point. Either you don't use your phone for ANYTHING, and watch the battery last for 2 weeks (literally), or you use it so heavily that it lasts only 2 hours....
I was sick recently, and as such couldn't use my phone (I couldn't open my eyes without getting dizzy, and even closed.... still was). Suddenly my HTC Inspire 4G used only 20% of the battery in 10 hours. The previous day, heavy mail, "friendstream" (HTC's facebook/twitter/etc app/widget), listening to music (well, audiobooks) for about 8 hours, and I had only 20% left. And i've found that overclocking the phone to 1.3GHz helps more than any other tweak.
Don't get me wrong, I'm obsessive about using my phone *and* getting awesome battery life out of it. But the ONLY way to true "maximize" your battery life is to *minimize* your usage. But then you might as well buy a feature phone.
And I know a few people with iPhones. a 3GS and a 4 and a 4S. They don't get any better battery life than I do. Heck, they get worse. Even under the same type of usage.
For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development. Your battery is dying as soon as it leaves the factory. Your battery is dying every time you change it. Especially when it gets hot. your battery dies faster when it's cold outside. We need better energy storage medium. Period.
Buy the biggest battery I can find on eBay....
Use the fsck out of my phone all day and have plenty of battery left.
Problem solved.
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We need better energy storage medium. Period.
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I don't think the use of WiFi could be overstated.
On my Skyrocket, leaving Wifi on (indoors), it'll sip about 1% every hour. I go out and have 4G LTE on, it drinks up about 3% every hour.
Minimizing widgets also helps. I saw noticeably better battery after removing my facebook and Latitude widgets.
The screen also sucks up the most battery. Turn it off on every occasion. Just turning it off instead of letting it shut off by itself has made a difference for me.
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For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development.
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Battery technology has kept up with usage. However, battery size in relation to the power draw, has not.
Compare the size of the back cover on your phone, with the size of the battery. Why is the battery this tiny little 2" square, when the phone is 5" tall and 2.5" wide? Why aren't batteries the same height/width as the phone? Why isn't the battery the same size as the back cover? Why aren't phone manufacturers optimising the size of the battery (meaning, making it as big as possible)?
It would be so nice if phone manufacturers would stop with this stupid "race to the thinnest" crap, and started:
- releasing phones that are actually comfortable to hold like a phone
- releasing phones with batteries larger than a pack of matches
your battery dies faster when it's cold outside.
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Actually, keeping a battery cool makes it last longer, not drain faster.
battery drain soo fast when in use
i bought my samsung galaxy 2 tab 7 p3100 few day back and im not satisfied with the battery when in use it battery drains soo fast approximately stands for 15 hours only when left unused stands for 1 and half to 2 day...i can see battery percent goes 1 by 1 with minutes when i use is continuously and my version is P3100DDLE1 ... i use 2g gprs all the time and stay connect all the time in facebook and whatsapp 24x7 and gmail ....... should i claim warranty for the battery??? does anyone face the same problem????
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battery drain soo fast when in use
i bought my samsung galaxy 2 tab 7 p3100 few day back and im not satisfied with the battery when in use it battery drains soo fast approximately stands for 15 hours only when left unused stands for 1 and half to 2 day...i can see battery percent goes 1 by 1 with minutes when i use is continuously and my version is P3100DDLE1 ... i use 2g gprs all the time and stay connect all the time in facebook and whatsapp 24x7 and gmail ....... should i claim warranty for the battery??? does anyone face the same problem????
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With your usage, I don't think that's so bad at all
vikram9889 said:
battery drain soo fast when in use
i bought my samsung galaxy 2 tab 7 p3100 few day back and im not satisfied with the battery when in use it battery drains soo fast approximately stands for 15 hours only when left unused stands for 1 and half to 2 day...i can see battery percent goes 1 by 1 with minutes when i use is continuously and my version is P3100DDLE1 ... i use 2g gprs all the time and stay connect all the time in facebook and whatsapp 24x7 and gmail ....... should i claim warranty for the battery??? does anyone face the same problem????
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This sounds quite normal to me. Facebook may be a big drainer. If you want to investigate further, try BetterBatteryStats, but i don't think you will see something unusual.
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This sounds quite normal to me. Facebook may be a big drainer. If you want to investigate further, try BetterBatteryStats, but i don't think you will see something unusual.
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thanks i will try
I think my battery is discharging really fast. I have power saving mode on and brightness at about 30%.
Wifi is always on"unless im sleeping" ram is at about 600+ all the time. Can anyone help me figure out
how to slow down the discharging, and are there any recommended apps for solving this issue?
Go to settings> battery and check battery use specs.
If you're getting more than 7 hours of screen time in a charge, you prob have nothing to worry about.
If you're getting less, check what else is eating it up
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At heavy use with max brightness and screen always on batt should be worth 9-10 hrs of working time.
Some apps (esp. Weather apps with warning function as well as some widgets) actually suck away the battery like hell .
Get "better battery stats"and run it for a day and You will know which app/widget is the sucker.
On my old Note I had a "sucking " event after a ROM update: 30% in 30 minutes. With the experts here I solved this in minutes.: :laugh:
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At heavy use with max brightness and screen always on batt should be worth 9-10 hrs of working time.
Some apps (esp. Weather apps with warning function as well as some widgets) actually suck away the battery like hell .
Get "better battery stats"and run it for a day and You will know which app/widget is the sucker.
On my old Note I had a "sucking " event after a ROM update: 30% in 30 minutes. With the experts here I solved this in minutes.: :laugh:
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Thanks for the tip bro but I didn't find it on the play store .. any ideas?
It's betterbatterystats all together
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insanehadi said:
I think my battery is discharging really fast. I have power saving mode on and brightness at about 30%.
Wifi is always on"unless im sleeping" ram is at about 600+ all the time. Can anyone help me figure out
how to slow down the discharging, and are there any recommended apps for solving this issue?
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What do you mean by "really fast"?
Like a time in hours?
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What do you men by "really fast"?
Like a time in hours?
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I think it would go down in 4 to 5 hours if im using it non stop with power saving on and 50% brightness.
That is normal I think nothing to be worry about
Yeah, most tablets would last just about 5-6hrs with heavy use.
That said, I can probably get like 7-8hrs of good usage.
Watching videos, esp HD and on-screen widgets are usually the main culprits.
I am having battery problems with my tab I only play some games for a little while browse the internet but I have to allways charge it everyday it was never like this when I had my ipad 2 any ideas on what I can do thanks
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I am having battery problems with my tab I only play some games for a little while browse the internet but I have to allways charge it everyday it was never like this when I had my ipad 2 any ideas on what I can do thanks
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You haven't posted a lot of details, but bear in mind the following.
Games usually draw more power.
Otherwise I would be looking to do the following.
Charge to 100 %
Then use it until it runs down to 15% or less. That should take about 8 hours (at least - but I don't play games on mine) so may be just do some browsing.
Repeat a couple of times to calibrate the battery.
If it discharges much quicker then you need to start looking at your settings.
Is power saving enabled (It's not in mine cos I think it's a pain in the ass)?
Is Bluetooth on all the time?
Is GPS on all the time?
How bright is the display and is it set to Auto? ( I find that mine is bright enough at about 20% for normal use)
Happy with all that ?
If you still feel that it's discharging to fast then look at installing an enhanced battery stats program that will try to identify any app that is acting as a battery drain.
Report back your findings
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I am having battery problems with my tab I only play some games for a little while browse the internet but I have to allways charge it everyday it was never like this when I had my ipad 2 any ideas on what I can do thanks
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That can´t be, there must be something wrong with Your Note.
My wife unplugs hers at 6 am, plays games for 1 hr while we drive to work, works with it the entire day, plays again games for 1 hr when we go back home, then surfs the internet on UMTS and goes on playing games until around 10 pm and still has got 25-40%.
Before with her iPad she had to recharge already in the afternoon with the same user-profile.
Check batt consumption with the app "Better Battery Stats" and eliminate batt-suckers
I get about 10 hours of use daily with mines which is good.. but as for the ipad being better on battery that is true because it has a bigger battery than the note 10.1.. The note 10.1 battery is 7000mah and Ipad is 11666mah that is one reason why many people always say the ipad as better battery life.. Because they dont know the ipad battery size is bigger than android batteries..
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Hi everyone,
I bought a Galaxy S4 GT19500 few days ago. I didn't put an SMS yet to this mobile, so I am using the WiFi to connect to the internet. However, I noticed that the phone consumes a huge amount of battery. I used the stopwatch how much time it takes for the battery to decrease by 1% when browing internet only using WiFi. The time it took was 3 mintues and few seconds only !!
Given that: GPS off, Bluetootch off, Air Gesture off, S-Beam off, eye detection (I forgot it's name) off ..etc and most of the smart features
And brightness was auto, power saving mode was on and from time to time I clear running apps in background.
Please help me, I want to know is this amount of battery consumption normal ??
Thanks in advance,
altayash said:
Hi everyone,
I bought a Galaxy S4 GT19500 few days ago. I didn't put an SMS yet to this mobile, so I am using the WiFi to connect to the internet. However, I noticed that the phone consumes a huge amount of battery. I used the stopwatch how much time it takes for the battery to decrease by 1% when browing internet only using WiFi. The time it took was 3 mintues and few seconds only !!
Given that: GPS off, Bluetootch off, Air Gesture off, S-Beam off, eye detection (I forgot it's name) off ..etc and most of the smart features
And brightness was auto, power saving mode was on and from time to time I clear running apps in background.
Please help me, I want to know is this amount of battery consumption normal ??
Thanks in advance,
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The apps you have installed could also be a factor. Try using Better Battery Stats to see what is keeping your phone awake and draining battery
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brandonarev said:
The apps you have installed could also be a factor. Try using Better Battery Stats to see what is keeping your phone awake and draining battery
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Thanks for the reply. When I go to settings->more->battery, the stats show that the screen cosumes most of the battery 27%. However, the level of I screen I've chosen was almost the lowest !!!
Please any other suggestions, any S4 users can share their experience to tell me if what I am experiencing considered NORMAL?
altayash said:
Thanks for the reply. When I go to settings->more->battery, the stats show that the screen cosumes most of the battery 27%. However, the level of I screen I've chosen was almost the lowest !!!
Please any other suggestions, any S4 users can share their experience to tell me if what I am experiencing considered NORMAL?
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Percentages are good but actual time is better. How much screen on time do you get in a typical charge and how long does your phone last in a typical day?
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