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Rogers HTC One X Now in stores! Go get it.

http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/20/rogers-htc-one-x-now-available/

I see that the offer expires April 30th. Should I take that to mean that the phone releases after that date or? ?
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA

is the rogers one xl the same as the att one in terms of lte frequency?

gordongartrell said:
Here's the link: http://www.rogers.com/web/content/htc-one-x-pre-order
I can't find a link to pre-order the phone for existing customers though.
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if you go to the top and just click on the htc one link it says existing customers reserve.
shinji21 said:
is the rogers one xl the same as the att one in terms of lte frequency?
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i want to know this as well. also, does anybody know if it's 16gb like the U.S. one?

shinji21 said:
is the rogers one xl the same as the att one in terms of lte frequency?
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Yup. The Rogers version and the AT&T versions are exactly the same. Except for the bloatware of course.
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Same ...
I reserved mine two days ago, and am #3 in Canada on the list. Woohoo, although, I wanted to be #1. Damn, two other people were faster than me.
Yes, I'm an existing customer ... have been for years.
Yes, the Rogers and AT&T units are effectively the same, using the same frequencies.
The Rogers/AT&T versions will have 16GB internal storage.
Peter
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[email protected] said:
I see that the offer expires April 30th. Should I take that to mean that the phone releases after that date or? ?
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA
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The Rogers press release clearly says it will be available in April, although, it does not give a specific date.
Peter
P.S. On-The-Go-Solutions in the US NOW has stock on the International version, HTC ONE X, with 32GB storage. They began having stock yesterday, and still have stock. I spoke with them this morning. Here's the link:
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_ONE_X

the phone is set to be release april 20th, according to mobilesyrup

Is this really the HTC One XL though?
or the X?
No where on the Roger's site does it say it supports LTE, and I assume that if it had LTE it would be marketing that.
If that's the case, wouldn't it just be the HTC One X with the quad core Terga 3 instead of the new dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor?
**** Edit
Okay did some more research...
Looks like Redboards mention that they're bringing in new LTE devices, and it includes the HTC One X on that list.
Since Rogers uses AWS as their LTE network, it makes sense they're bringing in the AT&T version of the HTC One X (which is essentially the International version of HTC One XL but different LTE band)...
I guess it's the Snapdragon processor then... now then it makes me wonder, what's the battery life going to be compared to the international version of the HTC One X, which I hear isn't good at all...

I know the 3G bands are the same, but my question is... Are the LTE bands compatible between Rogers and ATT?

HTC One X dummy phones are now on display in Rogers stores in Canada.

Does the XL version support cdma 2000 and gsm ?

does anyone know whether there will be physical rogers branding on the XL?

david_ag said:
I know the 3G bands are the same, but my question is... Are the LTE bands compatible between Rogers and ATT?
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David, whenever you hear Rogers, you hear AT&T, and vice-versa.
They use the same bands, the same brands, the same everything, except for a couple of specific exceptions.

creiz said:
David, whenever you hear Rogers, you hear AT&T, and vice-versa.
They use the same bands, the same brands, the same everything, except for a couple of specific exceptions.
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This has been true with 2G and 3G, however Telus, Bell and Rogers are using their Advanced Wireless Services (AWS) spectrum for LTE but plan to move to into the 700 MHz bands once Canadian regulators begin auctioning it off next year.
So right now as it stands, AT&T is using 700MHz for LTE and Rogers is using 1700/2100/2600MHz for their LTE.
Source: http://gigaom.com/broadband/canada-gets-two-new-lte-networks-thanks-to-rogers/ , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

creiz said:
David, whenever you hear Rogers, you hear AT&T, and vice-versa.
They use the same bands, the same brands, the same everything, except for a couple of specific exceptions.
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Red5 said:
This has been true with 2G and 3G, however Telus, Bell and Rogers are using their Advanced Wireless Services (AWS) spectrum for LTE but plan to move to into the 700 MHz bands once Canadian regulators begin auctioning it off next year.
So right now as it stands, AT&T is using 700MHz for LTE and Rogers is using 1700/2100/2600MHz for their LTE.
Source: http://gigaom.com/broadband/canada-gets-two-new-lte-networks-thanks-to-rogers/ , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Red: But from the wikipedia page, it says ATT is Band 4 as Rogers, so I am guessing ATT is 700/1700/2100, while Rogers is 1700/2100/2600?
Which means that most probably Rogers XL will support bands 1700/2100 which will work for ATT?
Thanks a lot to both of you!

Don't know how true it is, but I read that the One X is coming to Rogers, meaning no LTE. Not the One XL which has LTE for ATT.

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Red: But from the wikipedia page, it says ATT is Band 4 as Rogers, so I am guessing ATT is 700/1700/2100, while Rogers is 1700/2100/2600?
Which means that most probably Rogers XL will support bands 1700/2100 which will work for ATT?
Thanks a lot to both of you!
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AT&T just has band 4, which is 700. They do have a few licenses in remote areas for 1700/2100. WHat it looks like to me, from the sources I posted earlier, Rogers is only using 1700/2100 and just recently 2600. They do hope to get 700 next year once it goes on sale.
I guess the 1700/2100 would be comparable between both.

Ahh, all the mistakes ...
First, the Rogers and AT&T units are effectively the same. They use the same bands, which is 700/1700/2100 for LTE. Yes, the 700 band is not yet in use in Canada, but the phone will be capable of using it. Here's a cut & paste from Rogers site:
HTC One X features a large 4.7” Super LCD display with brilliant HD 720p resolution. Now the same clarity and vivid colour you expect from an HDTV can be found on your smartphone. You’ll be glad you have this amazing clear picture as you browse the web, stream HD video, and play the latest games over Rogers blazingly fast LTE network with download speeds up to 75Mbps.
Here's another cut & paste from HTC's site in Canada referring to the Rogers unit:
LTE CAT3: 700/AWS
WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850
EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
Two, it appears that Rogers is calling it the ONE X even though it's the same as the ONE XL. I don't think Rogers wants the "L" in their advertising, EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BE FULLY CAPABLE OF LTE.
Three, the Rogers unit will be white. Whether they get the grey version remains to be seen.
Four, oh, sorry, there is no four.
Five, hmm, there isn't a five, either.
Six, okay, if you're still reading ... STOP, and move on.
Seven, Bye!
Peter

PeterHTC said:
First, the Rogers and AT&T units are effectively the same. They use the same bands, which is 700/1700/2100 for LTE. Yes, the 700 band is not yet in use in Canada, but the phone will be capable of using it. Here's a cut & paste from Rogers site:
HTC One X features a large 4.7” Super LCD display with brilliant HD 720p resolution. Now the same clarity and vivid colour you expect from an HDTV can be found on your smartphone. You’ll be glad you have this amazing clear picture as you browse the web, stream HD video, and play the latest games over Rogers blazingly fast LTE network with download speeds up to 75Mbps.
Here's another cut & paste from HTC's site in Canada referring to the Rogers unit:
LTE CAT3: 700/AWS
WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850
EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
Two, it appears that Rogers is calling it the ONE X even though it's the same as the ONE XL. I don't think Rogers wants the "L" in their advertising, EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BE FULLY CAPABLE OF LTE.
Three, the Rogers unit will be white. Whether they get the grey version remains to be seen.
Four, oh, sorry, there is no four.
Five, hmm, there isn't a five, either.
Six, okay, if you're still reading ... STOP, and move on.
Seven, Bye!
Peter
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Thanks for the clear explanation. The One X name threw me off there...
The phone can't get here soon enough!

david_ag said:
Don't know how true it is, but I read that the One X is coming to Rogers, meaning no LTE. Not the One XL which has LTE for ATT.
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It's the One XL, but since we're in North America, it's just branded as the One X here. Rest assured, it's definitely the dual-core Snapdragon S4 model with LTE and 16GB of RAM.
Although all this information's available on the internet, I've got a couple friends who work in the Marketing and Mobile Device Management departments at Rogers, and they've confirmed this.

AT&T HTC One X not One XL

I am confused as I am sure a lot of others are but the HTC One XL is not the AT&T version. The AT&T version is still called the HTC One X. As shown on GSMArena and on the HTC Site. The HTC One X with Tegra(International-non LTE), The HTC One XL SnapDragon(International-LTE) and The HTC AT&T One X.
The AT&T One X has very different LTE bands and international LTE
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
LTE: 700/AWS
WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850
EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
The HTC One X (international) non-LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-4320.php
2G/Edge Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G/WCDMA Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
The HTC One XL (international) LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_xl-4572.php
2G/Edge Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G/WCDMA Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
LTE 1800 / 2600
Am I the only one confused??? These are from what I am reading, 3 totally types of the HTC One X, so it should be 3 different forums, right??

sans bands, the HTC One X on AT&T and the HTC One XL International are the same device. hardware, and software wise, thus, for development purposes have been lumped into the same category.
I'm not 100% how radios work though, so we may need a separate AT&T forum for AT&T development, in the case that radios are hard wired to accept only certain bands. I assume that the radios can be attenuated to receive different signal however.
Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong.

This will serve as the home for both the One XL (international Snapdragon S4 device) and AT&T One X. They are largely the same, although we'll need to switch out radios and such for different carriers. It should be very easy.

x3phyr said:
sans bands, the HTC One X on AT&T and the HTC One XL International are the same device. hardware, and software wise, thus, for development purposes have been lumped into the same category.
I'm not 100% how radios work though, so we may need a separate AT&T forum for AT&T development, in the case that radios are hard wired to accept only certain bands. I assume that the radios can be attenuated to receive different signal however.
Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Your post sounds as correct as what Ive been led to believe. The only difference is the radios for the different bands, which should be easy enough to swap around. All other development should be the exact same. Even though AT&T is calling their phone the One X, its essentially the One XL.

Red5 said:
Your post sounds as correct as what Ive been led to believe. The only difference is the radios for the different bands, which should be easy enough to swap around. All other development should be the exact same. Even though AT&T is calling their phone the One X, its essentially the One XL.
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Not only is it essentially the One XL, it is the One XL. Both have codename Evita in the bootloader.
It's like the Desire HD and Inspire 4G. You should be able to swap radios in S-OFF, but you will likely get poorer reception as AT&T will have custom tweaks on the radio files for their network, that will not be in international radio images.

Slightly confusing, it's somewhat hard to discern bands with HTC. I know i did a lot of searching to see if the HTC Raider [Rogers] had AWS so it could be used on Wind/Mobilicity. On the Box it says LTE 1700/2100 which was a toss up as to if it would also fall under AWS. After much deliberation and searching it concluded that no it did not, thus me buying the Amaze 4G, which was a sure thing.
For all these models, im going to assume Rogers is going to get the AT&T Version? Looking at the speccs am I right to assume it only has the 2100 freq and not AWS? Or am I totally off and it has full fledged AWS?.
Edit: Upon further review both bands are on there for HSDPA. Lets pray that is in the final product.
I got to play with the HTC One S prototype the other day via my stores HTC rep. It's fluid and the new camera system is just fantastic. It's ultra slim and looks great. It'd look even better in white, but all he had was a grey one.

Radioslave said:
Slightly confusing, it's somewhat hard to discern bands with HTC. I know i did a lot of searching to see if the HTC Raider [Rogers] had AWS so it could be used on Wind/Mobilicity. On the Box it says LTE 1700/2100 which was a toss up as to if it would also fall under AWS. After much deliberation and searching it concluded that no it did not, thus me buying the Amaze 4G, which was a sure thing.
For all these models, im going to assume Rogers is going to get the AT&T Version? Looking at the speccs am I right to assume it only has the 2100 freq and not AWS? Or am I totally off and it has full fledged AWS?.
Edit: Upon further review both bands are on there for HSDPA. Lets pray that is in the final product.
I got to play with the HTC One S prototype the other day via my stores HTC rep. It's fluid and the new camera system is just fantastic. It's ultra slim and looks great. It'd look even better in white, but all he had was a grey one.
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So the One X on AT&T will have AWS and 2100mhz. AWS = 1700, which is why will all have hope it'll work in T-mobile and others that use AWS for 3/4G service.

ge3kswag said:
So the One X on AT&T will have AWS and 2100mhz. AWS = 1700, which is why will all have hope it'll work in T-mobile and others that use AWS for 3/4G service.
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Fantastic, lets hope the Rogers version is the same as the AT&T version, which it usually is.

ge3kswag said:
So the One X on AT&T will have AWS and 2100mhz. AWS = 1700, which is why will all have hope it'll work in T-mobile and others that use AWS for 3/4G service.
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AT&T is getting the One XL. Here are the bands from the HTC Asia spec page. It won't support AWS and only supports the 700MHz spectrum via LTE.
HSPA/WCDMA:
•ATT: 850/1900/2100 MHz
•Asia/AUS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
•850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE:
•ATT: B4/B17
•Asia/AUS: 1800/2600 MHz
http://www.htc.com/asia/smartphones/htc-one-xl/#specs

ge3kswag said:
I am confused as I am sure a lot of others are but the HTC One XL is not the AT&T version. The AT&T version is still called the HTC One X. As shown on GSMArena and on the HTC Site. The HTC One X with Tegra(International-non LTE), The HTC One XL SnapDragon(International-LTE) and The HTC AT&T One X.
The AT&T One X has very different LTE bands and international LTE
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
LTE: 700/AWS
WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850
EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
The HTC One X (international) non-LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-4320.php
2G/Edge Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G/WCDMA Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
The HTC One XL (international) LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_xl-4572.php
2G/Edge Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G/WCDMA Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
LTE 1800 / 2600
Am I the only one confused??? These are from what I am reading, 3 totally types of the HTC One X, so it should be 3 different forums, right??
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Same thing. The One XL and AT&T One X have different supported radio bands, but they will run the same radio firmware if S-OFF. No more, no less.
Both the One XL and the AT&T One X have codename Evita, which means HTC considers both to be identical for development, and as such we should too.

Ahh, the confusion continues, if only people would read ...
Please have a look at one of my previous posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24936626#post24936626
So, as you can see, the Rogers unit will also simply be called the ONE X, even though it's LTE, and it will operate on LTE frequencies 700/1700. Although it does not specifically state 2100 on the Rogers site, this frequency is usually used for uploading and NOT downloading. The download frequencies are often the ones that people want to see.
Peter
Addendum: I should be getting my Rogers unit (#2 on the list in Canada for their pre-orders), either tomorrow or Thursday. Rogers generally starts shipping their pre-order units 1-2 days before they officially go on sale, which appears to be this Friday, April 20.

Since they are the same hardware the modem/radio's can be swapped if we get s-off so you can effectively use the international on ATT or T-Mobile and have 32gigs vs 16 and FM tuner. The AT&T version will have support for AWS and 2100mhz. This is stated on the US HTC One X page and Gsmarena.
BarryH_GEG said:
AT&T is getting the One XL. Here are the bands from the HTC Asia spec page. It won't support AWS and only supports the 700MHz spectrum via LTE.
HSPA/WCDMA:
•ATT: 850/1900/2100 MHz
•Asia/AUS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
•850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE:
•ATT: B4/B17
•Asia/AUS: 1800/2600 MHz
http://www.htc.com/asia/smartphones/htc-one-xl/#specs
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They are not the same as one the AT&T version is 16gigs and has no FM tuner. So, as I have stated, if it is unlocked and can get s-off we can then put the radio from the AT&T version into the unlocked international version and have 32gigs, FM Tuner and it will then work on AT&T or T-Mobile.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
Same thing. The One XL and AT&T One X have different supported radio bands, but they will run the same radio firmware if S-OFF. No more, no less.
Both the One XL and the AT&T One X have codename Evita, which means HTC considers both to be identical for development, and as such we should too.
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PeterHTC said:
So, as you can see, the Rogers unit will also simply be called the ONE X, even though it's LTE, and it will operate on LTE frequencies 700/1700.
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The link I posted from HTC Asia lists the same LTE bands for AT&T's One XL (B4=1700, B17=700). AT&T's referring to it as the "One X" and dropping the "L" also. It also mentions HSPA 2100.

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The link I posted from HTC Asia lists the same LTE bands for AT&T's One XL (B4=1700, B17=700). AT&T's referring to it as the "One X" and dropping the "L" also. It also mentions HSPA 2100.
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The AT&T model is as follows
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
LTE - 700/AWS(1700)
WCDMA(HSPA) - 2100/1900/AWS(1700)/850
EDGE - 850/900/1800/1900
From this we can say that unlocked it will work with on T-Mobile's 4G network. This is confirmed by the bands being on the phone but default.

ge3kswag said:
They are not the same as one the AT&T version is 16gigs and has no FM tuner. So, as I have stated, if it is unlocked and can get s-off we can then put the radio from the AT&T version into the unlocked international version and have 32gigs, FM Tuner and it will then work on AT&T or T-Mobile.
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I know for sure that:
1. Putting an HTC One XL/AT&T One X radio image onto an HTC One X will brick your phone, S-OFF or not.
2. The international unlocked variant only supports running on AT&T, T-Mobile uses AWS and so as such only EDGE will work with the international variant on T-Mobile USA.
3. Software will not magically make it possible for you to gain an LTE chipset and the associated radio hardware. Read more. Radio images are mostly pointless to change in the first place and I would strongly suggest to stay with your carrier's radio images as they will have tweaked the radio firmware to best work on their network.

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From this we can say that unlocked it will work with on T-Mobile's 4G network. This is confirmed by the bands being on the phone but default.
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This conflicts with the HTC Asia site which lists the AT&T phone's WCDMA bands as 850/1900/2100 MHz. And when you think about it, why would AT&T want to deploy a device that could so easily be used on a competitor’s network? The T-Mobile G2X was documented as being quad-band and when it shipped it wasn't. Someone needs to test the AT&T One X on T-Mobile before declaring victory. Everyone thought the same thing about the G-Note and it too used a Qualcomm chip. This is what Engadget had to say.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/16/psa-atandts-galaxy-note-does-not-support-aws-for-hspa/
There was a hack found but the signal is weak and it drains the battery faster than stock. So it might be possible to hack the One X if it doesn't work out-of-the-box.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/14/galaxy-note-gains-tmobile-hspa-access/

1. This is untrue, the chipset is the same and only radio is different so with s-off this is possible.
2. This is obvious without the radio swap as i have already stated.
3. This international One XL is already LTE capable, so not sure what you are referring too, maybe you should read up a little more. Example, T-Mobile SGS2 and ATT SkyRocket. So again, maybe read up a little more.
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I know for sure that:
1. Putting an HTC One XL/AT&T One X radio image onto an HTC One X will brick your phone, S-OFF or not.
2. The international unlocked variant only supports running on AT&T, T-Mobile uses AWS and so as such only EDGE will work with the international variant on T-Mobile USA.
3. Software will not magically make it possible for you to gain an LTE chipset and the associated radio hardware. Read more. Radio images are mostly pointless to change in the first place and I would strongly suggest to stay with your carrier's radio images as they will have tweaked the radio firmware to best work on their network.
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Lets remember, the HTC Asia site is showing the international S4 version of the One X not the AT&T version. The AT&T version is on the HTC US page AT&T branded, as i have posted by link a few times. It clearly states it will carry AWS bands. This is an HTC site so I don't think to doubt it.
BarryH_GEG said:
This conflicts with the HTC Asia site which lists the AT&T phone's WCDMA bands as 850/1900/2100 MHz. And when you think about it, why would AT&T want to deploy a device that could so easily be used on a competitor’s network? The T-Mobile G2X was documented as being quad-band and when it shipped it wasn't. Someone needs to test the AT&T One X on T-Mobile before declaring victory. Everyone thought the same thing about the G-Note and it too used a Qualcomm chip. This is what Engadget had to say.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/16/psa-atandts-galaxy-note-does-not-support-aws-for-hspa/
There was a hack found but the signal is weak and it drains the battery faster than stock. So it might be possible to hack the One X if it doesn't work out-of-the-box.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/14/galaxy-note-gains-tmobile-hspa-access/
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ge3kswag said:
Lets remember, the HTC Asia site is showing the international S4 version of the One X not the AT&T version. The AT&T version is on the HTC US page AT&T branded, as i have posted by link a few times. It clearly states it will carry AWS bands. This is an HTC site so I don't think to doubt it.
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Did you look at the HTC Asia link for the One XL? It specifically breaks out AT&T (by name) and Asia/Australia listing the bands for both. Since they're both official sites maintained by HTC one of them is wrong. Until the phone comes out and is in people's hands we won't know which one.

I agree, it is all nothing but speculation and it's all we can do until the phone comes out. Right now all we can do is hope and wish.

[Q] Is it a Pentaband?

Hey I have looked around and have heard differing reports saying that some are and some aren't. What I want to know is is the Telus version of the phone Pentaband? My aunt got the phone and I might be getting it when she is finished and it would be helpful to know

Dark lord me said:
Hey I have looked around and have heard differing reports saying that some are and some aren't. What I want to know is is the Telus version of the phone Pentaband? My aunt got the phone and I might be getting it when she is finished and it would be helpful to know
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It's not pentaband, but the chip DOES support both 850 Mhz and 1700 Mhz (strange, I know). I believe it's actually quadband WCDMA which means it'll work on Wind/Mobilicity (I have the Telus version too and use it on Wind currently and Rogers prior). It won't work in Europe though, if you travel a lot because I believe they use 900 Mhz out there, which is the band this phone doesn't support.
I've attached proof that it does work on Wind with data, but I don't know how to prove I'm using the Telus model... Just trust me I guess?

AFAIK: Only TMOUS' One S is pentaband.

Check the first table here for frequencies supported on different versions: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/7

Thanks for getting back to me =D I had looked around and found differing reports some sites would only have the international one and some would only have the T-mobile one.
Well i guess her's is not Pentaband but I don't mine losing Eurpoean roaming it has the ones i need (AWS) :laugh:

Dark lord me said:
Thanks for getting back to me =D I had looked around and found differing reports some sites would only have the international one and some would only have the T-mobile one.
Well i guess her's is not Pentaband but I don't mine losing Eurpoean roaming it has the ones i need (AWS) :laugh:
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Yeah contrary to belief, the Canadian One S is NOT the "international" version, but rather the T-Mobile version.
If you want further clarification, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)
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PJ40110 should be written inside the SIM cover thing. It was on mine. I did a lot of digging around to find out whether or not my phone supported AWS. I really hated being with Rogers so I switched to Wind, but I wanted to make sure my dream phone would work before I switched.

I live in Ohio. Here we have T-Mobile and local Cincinnati Bell. Cincinnati Bell gets all their phones from T-Mobile. So if you can get your hands on a Cincinnati Bell One S, that is also pentaband. I have one.
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rubbamade said:
I live in Ohio. Here we have T-Mobile and local Cincinnati Bell. Cincinnati Bell gets all their phones from T-Mobile. So if you can get your hands on a Cincinnati Bell One S, that is also pentaband. I have one.
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This is misleading information as it is more correctly quadband WCDMA. Pentaband WCDMA would include 900 Mhz as well, which the T-Mobile One S does not have.

Yeah, the Telus One S is pentaband, the T-Mobile One S us quadband(it's missing 900mhz).
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Mr.Mischief said:
Yeah, the Telus One S is pentaband, the T-Mobile One S us quadband(it's missing 900mhz).
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I don't believe this is the case either. My research has yielded that the only FCC clearance this phone has is 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz.

ShensMobile said:
I don't believe this is the case either. My research has yielded that the only FCC clearance this phone has is 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz.
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Which version are you referring to? That would be correct for the T-Mobile version.
According to manbearpig(who is selling his Telus One S), his Telus version is pentaband.
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ShensMobile said:
If you want further clarification, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)
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Mr.Mischief said:
Which version are you referring to? That would be correct for the T-Mobile version.
According to manbearpig(who is selling his Telus One S), his Telus version is pentaband.
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I don't know who manbearpig is, but he is wrong. The Telus One S (and all Canadian One S') only support 850/1700/1900/2100. That's 4, not 5 bands. You can look inside your One S SIM cover right now, it says PJ40110 underneath the FCC label.
The Telus One S will NOT work on European WCDMA networks. It is pentaband GSM but not for the WCDMA radio.
If you can show me how the Canadian One S is pentaband, then I will yield. I'm not trying to be a ****, but I've done my research and these are the results and I'm trying to make it clear for anyone who reads this. I hate it when I find misleading info on the internet.

ShensMobile said:
I don't know who manbearpig is, but he is wrong. The Telus One S (and all Canadian One S') only support 850/1700/1900/2100. That's 4, not 5 bands. You can look inside your One S SIM cover right now, it says PJ40110 underneath the FCC label.
The Telus One S will NOT work on European WCDMA networks. It is pentaband GSM but not for the WCDMA radio.
If you can show me how the Canadian One S is pentaband, then I will yield. I'm not trying to be a ****, but I've done my research and these are the results and I'm trying to make it clear for anyone who reads this. I hate it when I find misleading info on the internet.
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You could be right. Here's the thread where manbearpig was selling his Telus One S and people asked him questions about whether it is truly pentaband.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771097
This is the phone he claims to have: http://www.canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
You could ask the new owner of the phone to check the box, the T-Mobile One S has the bands listed on the box.
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Mr.Mischief said:
You could be right. Here's the thread where manbearpig was selling his Telus One S and people asked him questions about whether it is truly pentaband.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771097
This is the phone he claims to have: http://www.canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
You could ask the new owner of the phone to check the box, the T-Mobile One S has the bands listed on the box.
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I'm not sure that is exactly the phone he has/had as I was going to buy it from him until he told me it is the silver/blue version. The canadagsm site only lists black as available as far as I can tell. MBP did not say that's where he got it, somebody else posted that link inferring it is the same one. Personally, I am betting it is only a physically unbranded T-mobile US version running an unbranded ROM

I'll PM the new owner later and ask him to check the box.
Edit: PM sent.
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Whatever it is...it works on WIND
Hi Peops,
Greetings from Can-eh-da!
Thanks to a few postings I saw up in here, and a sweet pre-Christmas deal going on at Wind Mobile, I decided to take a $25 non-refundable SIM card bet on the information posted on these forums, specifically that unlocked HTC One-S phones with the PJ40110 model number *may* work on WIND because it supports AWS.
Using thread #13 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378&page=2, I found out I might have a ONe-S that works on Wind...I was right!
Hope this helps someone the way I was helped!
Tske care, eh!
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T-mobile One S converting to International model?

Hi guys, it's time to upgrade from my old Desire, and One S seems to be really the best replacement.
Unfortunately in my country there are just Z560e models, Z520e models are trading on much higher price
So I'm wondering can I get a T-mobile US version, flash an international RUU and use it with Europe 3G networks?
Here we use primary 900/2100 for 3G.
Sorry if this question is already asked, I searched a lot for the last couple of hours with no satisfying answer coming up.
Thanks

stavel said:
Hi guys, it's time to upgrade from my old Desire, and One S seems to be really the best replacement.
Unfortunately in my country there are just Z560e models, Z520e models are trading on much higher price
So I'm wondering can I get a T-mobile US version, flash an international RUU and use it with Europe 3G networks?
Here we use primary 900/2100 for 3G.
Sorry if this question is already asked, I searched a lot for the last couple of hours with no satisfying answer coming up.
Thanks
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Are all T-Mobile one s using the snapdragon s4? Or do some use snapdragon s3?
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chrikenn said:
Are all T-Mobile one s using the snapdragon s4? Or do some use snapdragon s3?
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All T-Mobile US One S phones come with s4 processor. s3 One S phones are made for Asian markets.
With T-Mobile branded version you have to super CID it in order to flash different region RUUs.
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how I can perform this procedure if I have a htc 3g band 900/2100 and I have the 1900 as I do I have an s4
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The One S is an awesome upgrade from teh Desire, trust me
Here is a table and some frequency info, but you should probably doublecheck with your carrier if you manage to find someone there who understands what you talk about;.)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/7
From the review:
What’s awesome about the T-Mobile HTC One S is that it supports 2100 MHz UMTS Band I and AWS alongside Cellular 850 MHz and PCS 1900 MHz. The result is that if you either can find one unlocked, or unlock your T-Mobile One S, you get a quad-band phone which supports DC-HSPA+. I managed to get T-Mobile to unlock my One S, and had no issue using it on AT&T. If anything, I wish AT&T would carry a device like this, since I find the smaller form factor very appealing.
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I checked already and my carrier is migrating from 2100 to 900 for the 3G.
T-Mobile doesn't support 3G on 900 Mhz, anyway GSM (voice) is quad-band and can work worldwide.
Hm.. I don't see working S-off or I'm wrong?

No S-off yet

I see s-off is not needed for SuperCID and people are changing their CIDs to flash the latest OTA update.
So everything about de-branding US T-Mobile version boils down to the question "is the hardware compatible with the international RUU and will it have working 3G in Europe?"
I still can not find a trusted answer of this question....

stavel said:
So everything about de-branding US T-Mobile version boils down to the question "is the hardware compatible with the international RUU and will it have working 3G in Europe?"
I still can not find a trusted answer of this question....
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Then you should PM torxx. As he did TrickDroid for TMO US and the international version as well, he could be able to answer this question reliable.
You may find answers as well in these Threads:
[ROM][FINISHED][S4/S3][11 AUG] TrickDroid v7.1.0
[ROM][T-MOBILE-US][S4][FINISHED] TrickDroid v6.2.0
Also searching there is a bit harsh...

HTC One XL Vodafone Germany

How does the Vodafone Germany HTC One XL differ from other carrier / location specific variants of the Qualcomm based phones like the Australian Telstra One XL or the Northern American AT&T HTC One X ?
Some specs from the website:
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Qualcomm MSM 8960 Dual-Core 1,5 GHz
Internal storage 32GB
130g
LTE (Frequencies not specified)
If this has been answered previously I'm sorry and would like to ask a moderator to close the thread. It would be nice to create a table comparing all available variants.

Ok I just compared the Qualcomm One X Linux Kernel sources from htc developers evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-271616b.zip (AT&T USA) and evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-a6dad.zip (Vodafone
Germany).
29 files differ, the majority is non platform specific networking stuff. The platform specific changes are of cosmetic nature and I doubt they are a result of different board revisions, indicative for a match of AT&T USA One X and Vodafone Germany One XL hardware.

It looks you have 32Gb internal storage like international one and Dual-Core 1.5 GHz MSM8960 Qualcomm Snapdragon processor like xl variant. 32GB is big plus!!

dcordes said:
Ok I just compared the Qualcomm One X Linux Kernel sources from htc developers evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-271616b.zip (AT&T USA) and evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-a6dad.zip (Vodafone
Germany).
29 files differ, the majority is non platform specific networking stuff. The platform specific changes are of cosmetic nature and I doubt they are a result of different board revisions, indicative for a match of AT&T USA One X and Vodafone Germany One XL hardware.
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does that mean i could flash a AT&T One X with a german One XL stock rom? and the LTE band/frequencies would be changed too? ie. utilizing 4G/LTE network in Germany? sorry, my questions maybe silly, i am noob.

WuBoBee said:
does that mean i could flash a AT&T One X with a german One XL stock rom? and the LTE band/frequencies would be changed too? ie. utilizing 4G/LTE network in Germany? sorry, my questions maybe silly, i am noob.
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You can flash the rom and everything will work, but you still won't get LTE in Germany. The radio frequencies are set in hardware, and they aren't the same as the North American HOX variant. Everything else should work though, and you'll still get HSPA+ / DC-HSPA+ depending on your carrier.

I have an One XL from Vodafone Germany, too. At the moment I am using King Cobra 1.5 ROM and everything is working fine on T-Mobile Germany network. Can't tell if LTE is working coz i don't have the high speed internet option in my contract but edge, 3g and hsdpa/hsupa is working without any problem.
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rbrugman said:
You can flash the rom and everything will work, but you still won't get LTE in Germany. The radio frequencies are set in hardware, and they aren't the same as the North American HOX variant. Everything else should work though, and you'll still get HSPA+ / DC-HSPA+ depending on your carrier.
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What do you mean the radio frequencies are set in hardware (like radio rom?) and how do you know?
Does anybody know how to check which LTE frequencies are available on a device?

dcordes said:
What do you mean the radio frequencies are set in hardware (like radio rom?) and how do you know?
Does anybody know how to check which LTE frequencies are available on a device?
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I am not 100% sure how much anyone has actually tested, I think most is based on assumptions.
There is many LTE bands and most just expect the amps in the One XL wont suit all frequencies.
Likely type A: 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz
This would suit Europe, Australia and Asia.
Likely type B: 700, 800, 1700, 1900 MHz
This would suit North America.