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at&t GAVE me a skyrocket...

Alright so before you get to caught up in the title, let me explain myself. I have been doing some research on which phones that at&t and sammy would upgrade to ICS, the infuse was not one of them. The Galaxy S II Skyrocket however was one. I promptly looked up the cities that have at&t LTE, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw my city there. I remembered back to when I owned the awful Motorola Backflip. I hated it so much I used the warranty department at at&t to switch the Backflip out three times before being sent an HTC Aria the fourth time. I decided to try this with the infuse and this time the phone they were willing to supply me with was the Galaxy S II Skyrocket. I thought that sharing this may help some of you who want a phone that will definitely receive ICS. If your Infuse is still under warranty, call up at&t give them crap till they send you an infuse (repeat 3 times) and enjoy your skyrocket the 4th time!

anup111 said:
Alright so before you get to caught up in the title, let me explain myself. I have been doing some research on which phones that at&t and sammy would upgrade to ICS, the infuse was not one of them. The Galaxy S II Skyrocket however was one. I promptly looked up the cities that have at&t LTE, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw my city there. I remembered back to when I owned the awful Motorola Backflip. I hated it so much I used the warranty department at at&t to switch the Backflip out three times before being sent an HTC Aria the fourth time. I decided to try this with the infuse and this time the phone they were willing to supply me with was the Galaxy S II Skyrocket. I thought that sharing this may help some of you who want a phone that will definitely receive ICS. If your Infuse is still under warranty, call up at&t give them crap till they send you an infuse (repeat 3 times) and enjoy your skyrocket the 4th time!
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Haha nice. I've been thinking about doing this but as I am not the main account holder, it probably will not work.
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On a side note....there is no reason why this phone should not be upgraded to ICS. My has it...so she probably won't care, but I will!
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I only had to do this one time. I bought a captivate for $1 back in aug 2011. I got bored with it. In Oct I decided to call att and tell them i had all kinds of problems with the captivate and that i did not want another one and asked them what they could do for me besides me cancel my service. She offered me an Atrix or a infuse. I got the infuse and didn't pay anything for it. I just sent my captivate back in once i received my infuse. You don't have to do multiple warranty exchanges, you have to be a good talker.
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ive been having some connection troubles big time the past few days .. data just dropping for no reason and have to go in to airplane mode to reconnect

theROMinator said:
Haha nice. I've been thinking about doing this but as I am not the main account holder, it probably will not work.
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You don't have to be the main account holder.
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CheesyNutz said:
ive been having some connection troubles big time the past few days .. data just dropping for no reason and have to go in to airplane mode to reconnect
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Volume button is sticking too, isn't it.
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CheesyNutz said:
ive been having some connection troubles big time the past few days .. data just dropping for no reason and have to go in to airplane mode to reconnect
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Well Odin already! Stop clogging the forums!
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Normally, I would frown upon this but with as much as I absolutely HATE AT&T...Have Fun!
I wish i could do this, but I'm not the main account holder and they as for the MAH last 4 digits of their SSN when talking to them.

Under warranty is the 90 day thing right?
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KingVekxin said:
Under warranty is the 90 day thing right?
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The phone is under a 1 year warranty no matter what.
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The warranty department figures it's easier to deal with lying by just giving in sometimes.

Pretty slick lol

So I called them and told them I was having touchscreen issues which is True I have been. They sent me over to At&t warranty to verify my issue, told them I've done a master reset, I've done recovery and everything, They then stated I was in warranty for a replacement so here comes another infuse. lol
Edit: You DO NOT need the account holders last SSC numbers to get a replacement. Tell them you have a question and they'll say sure I can help you with that, tell them your problem and they'll have to deal with helping you. I advice before you do this, you put stock firmware back on your phone, factory reset it before sending it back as well, Don't bother if your phone has physical damage or water damage as there Warranty exchange seems to be very serious and they will charge you $399 which is the total cost of the phone.

Axiomkid said:
So I called them and told them I was having touchscreen issues which is True I have been. They sent me over to At&t warranty to verify my issue, told them I've done a master reset, I've done recovery and everything, They then stated I was in warranty for a replacement so here comes another infuse. lol
Edit: You DO NOT need the account holders last SSC numbers to get a replacement. Tell them you have a question and they'll say sure I can help you with that, tell them your problem and they'll have to deal with helping you. I advice before you do this, you put stock firmware back on your phone, factory reset it before sending it back as well, Don't bother if your phone has physical damage or water damage as there Warranty exchange seems to be very serious and they will charge you $399 which is the total cost of the phone.
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They must have changed the whole SSC number deal then, because the last time I filed a warranty claim, mind you this was 4 years ago, they were very persistent about getting that number before they would help me with anything.
*Edit* Is it a refurbished? or new?

shooter5635 said:
They must have changed the whole SSC number deal then, because the last time I filed a warranty claim, mind you this was 4 years ago, they were very persistent about getting that number before they would help me with anything.
*Edit* Is it a refurbished? or new?
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Reconditioned, assuming it's refurbished.

He just got lucky. Every time i call i have to give the ssn, name on the account, ect.
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tmease1 said:
He just got lucky. Every time i call i have to give the ssn, name on the account, ect.
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They have asked me before I even asked the question, I just told them I don't know the last digits of the SSC but I just have a question and told them the problem I was having and they took care of it.
Edit: To save them time and yourself time, Tell them you have tried a factory reset and tried the recovery option built into the phone to try and fix your issue, They'll take you right to At&t Warranty Dept to see your options on getting another phone.

Axiomkid said:
They have asked me before I even asked the question, I just told them I don't know the last digits of the SSC but I just have a question and told them the problem I was having and they took care of it.
Edit: To save them time and yourself time, Tell them you have tried a factory reset and tried the recovery option built into the phone to try and fix your issue, They'll take you right to At&t Warranty Dept to see your options on getting another phone.
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OK, sounds good.
I'm seriously considering trying to get a different phone. I love the infuse, but the support base for roms seems to be dropping off quickly.

shooter5635 said:
OK, sounds good.
I'm seriously considering trying to get a different phone. I love the infuse, but the support base for roms seems to be dropping off quickly.
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Once we get an official expect to see better roms, Only a couple weeks till we see it.
Edit: I've been thru this process many times with T-Mobile and getting another phone, Refurbished phones are nothing compared to what you got now thats been used for months, Refurbished phones are phones used 30 days or less from purchase and when there brought back they cannot be sold as "New" anymore. Every refurbished phone I've ever gotten was in the upmost perfect condition.

[Q] Sent T-Mobile a Rooted Phone

Since I was having problems with my phone, and it was still under their warranty, I requested a replacement, and when it was sent to me I was careful (or so I thought) to restore the stock recovery as well as the stock rom. After some time I realized that the "stock" ROM to which I had restore the phone I sent to T-Mobile was a modified Froyo build, rooted, with ROM Manager installed. So now I am worried that they may charge me some ridiculous fee because I sent back a device that was not fully stock. From logic or past experience, is TMO going to take any action?

I've sent in a g2x with cm7, didn't get billed or I don't even know if they found out. Could be different for you but that's my experience
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honestly, most of the time the phone is never powered on again before its disassembled and refurbished.
and even if it is, nobody working on the floor is going to care either way.
most of the time, as long as the phone gets past the rep in the store, your fine.

I think the worst they could do if they found out, was just return it to you and say they're sorry. I don't think they'll just charge you without your approval. When I brought in my phone to check a problem with my data, the first thing the guy there did was check my phone's info like software and stuff to see if it's stock, otherwise they can't help you if it's a rooted phone.

Let us know what happens.
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When I first got my g2x I returned it rooted and running a custom rom. They didn't even power it on they just checked it for water damage. You should be cool. No worries.
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My phone short circuited while rooted and wouldn't turn on so I sent it in and am crossing my fingers lol

Success.
I got an email a couple of days ago saying T-Mobile had received my return. I called customer support under the pretense that my phone was acting weird and got her to check my warranty and it was fine. So as per what most people were saying, sending tmo a rooted phone will not root any warranties or incur any action from their part. Can't say much about phones sent directly to the manufacturer or the "premium handset insurance" people, which apparently managed through a third party company that states "any false information given will be processed accordingly."
On a side note, if you check tmo's support website, for most of their recent phones they attached a note explicitly stating an update to 4.0 in the future. For our beloved g2x, however, they wrote a long note stating how the recently leaked 21y update will be available starting may 14th, without any allusion to ICS. To me that just reinforces the notion that the only company that's more pathetic than a LG and nvidia combo is T-mobile and their haphazard and lethargic approach and contributions to today's smartphone community.
Not to say the update is completely useless, however; from my own experience it makes a tremendous improvement in battery life and wifi calling. Not to mention the fact that my phone does not shut down randomly in the middle of the night like it used to at times.
Here's the link to Tmo's announcement
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2362
and the HTC sensation's (for cross reference)
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2392

I bought my G2X on craigslist. It was already rooted and running CM7. I was getting a SIM error (later to be learned it was caused by ICS) I told TMo I bought it on craigslist already rooted. They still sent me a replacement at no cost.

I was charged a $20 warranty replacement fee, wtf! Anyone else? Are they pulling my leg here?

samsizzle said:
I was charged a $20 warranty replacement fee, wtf! Anyone else? Are they pulling my leg here?
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Do you have Premium Handset Protection on your plan?
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luperez said:
I got an email a couple of days ago saying T-Mobile had received my return. I called customer support under the pretense that my phone was acting weird and got her to check my warranty and it was fine. So as per what most people were saying, sending tmo a rooted phone will not root any warranties or incur any action from their part. Can't say much about phones sent directly to the manufacturer or the "premium handset insurance" people, which apparently managed through a third party company that states "any false information given will be processed accordingly."
On a side note, if you check tmo's support website, for most of their recent phones they attached a note explicitly stating an update to 4.0 in the future. For our beloved g2x, however, they wrote a long note stating how the recently leaked 21y update will be available starting may 14th, without any allusion to ICS. To me that just reinforces the notion that the only company that's more pathetic than a LG and nvidia combo is T-mobile and their haphazard and lethargic approach and contributions to today's smartphone community.
Not to say the update is completely useless, however; from my own experience it makes a tremendous improvement in battery life and wifi calling. Not to mention the fact that my phone does not shut down randomly in the middle of the night like it used to at times.
Here's the link to Tmo's announcement
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2362
and the HTC sensation's (for cross reference)
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2392
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Where do you see the G2X ICS notes? o-o

samsizzle said:
I was charged a $20 warranty replacement fee, wtf! Anyone else? Are they pulling my leg here?
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I was going through warranty replacement proceedings (cuz of screen bleeding, 3rd time) over the phone with a tmo rep and when he said there would be a $5 charge i flipped out (it's the principal, if they would send me a properly manufactured device i wouldn't need to keep returning their ****) he instantly volunteered to waive the fee. I'm about to call and get ANOTHER replacement. Eventually i will get them to replace it with a sensation.

vishousv said:
I bought my G2X on craigslist. It was already rooted and running CM7. I was getting a SIM error (later to be learned it was caused by ICS) I told TMo I bought it on craigslist already rooted. They still sent me a replacement at no cost.
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Wtf?! Really?! But you didnt even buy it feom them... why theyhelp you out like that???

My friend told me whatever phone the SIM card is in is covered by the insurance. That's the only thing I've heard. I didn't ask them (T-Mobile) any more questions.
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vishousv said:
My friend told me whatever phone the SIM card is in is covered by the insurance. That's the only thing I've heard. I didn't ask them (T-Mobile) any more questions.
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Sweeet! Kudos for playing that one smart. I have sent back a few phones for warranty replacement to T-mo. My 1st was a modded HD2 that registered on their system (so they said) as running android. (it was running android, lol). 2nd was a G2x which was rooted and had a custom ROM. I know for sure they have no way of knowing without you volunteering the information yourself because they ask you have you modded the phone. If you say yes they may use that to deny you flat out but if not they probably will never be notified of such. Devices typically are wiped clean before ever being powered on.

*bump* yea I'm looking to send in my HTC one s for battery life issues and Im wondering fogs sane thing seeibg that I'm rooted and custom viper Rom installed.
had my phone off th3 charger for 50mins now and I'm at 82% Battery wtff

Need some help

So I decided to try AT&T(Currently with Sprint) just to see how much better the network was due to how horrible Sprints network is. So I went and purchased the AT&T One X. I absolutely loved the phone and the difference in download speeds is just ridiculous. Well I had the phone for about a 1 1/2 days and was having a problem where the phone would just randomly reboot and was getting to be a major pain. So I went to AT&T and asked if I could swap it for a new one. After about 30 minutes of going back and forth and threatening to cancel my contract they agreed to give me a replacement but I would have to pay the $35 re-stocking fee, but they didn't have the color I wanted so they found another store that had one. I went there to pick it up and noticed that the seal on the box had already been cut. I thought, maybe they just cut it open while I was on my way. I also noticed the guy couldn't get the phone to turn on and come to find out it was completely dead, which was weird because the first one I bought had almost a full charge when I got it. So I took the phone and after I got home I was looking around in the settings menu and noticed that the battery had over 2 days of use and I only had the phone for an hour. So I called the store and asked the guy why that was and he told me they were probably doing tests with it in the store. I told him I didn't want a phone they were messing with in the store and that I wanted a brand new one. Well he hung up on me. So I went back to the store I bought the first one from to see if there was anything they could do and they said for 1, I can only swap out the phone once within my 30 day period and 2, since the phone came from the other store they would have to be the ones to replace it and if I wanted to cancel my service I would have to pay another $35 restocking fee. So my question/questions are, (1) Has anyone noticed that there battery had been used for any amount of time when you first got the phone and (2) For anyone that may work or has worked for AT&T in the past, am I entitled to a new phone since clearly my phone had been used and was not new? Sorry for such a long post but I thought I would get the best advice if the whole story was laid out. I know getting a phone that had been played with for a couple hours may not be a big deal to some but to me I paid for a new phone and that's what I want. Thanks in advance for any help or advice you may be able to give.

Get your new phone.. [email protected] ATT
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When I got my one X they opened it for the first time right in front of me, it still had the plastic seal on the box.

Go back and demand they give you a new phone. You should never have had to pay the restocking fee for the first one and you sure as hell shouldn't have to get stuck with a phone that wasn't new. Good to see you here, btw. I hope you decide to stick with the One X, it's an amazing phone... I don't miss my E4GT at all now that I have this thing. Gonna be theming for us?
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_MetalHead_ said:
Go back and demand they give you a new phone. You should never have had to pay the restocking fee for the first one and you sure as hell shouldn't have to get stuck with a phone that wasn't new. Good to see you here, btw. I hope you decide to stick with the One X, it's an amazing phone... I don't miss my E4GT at all now that I have this thing. Gonna be theming for us?
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Thanks guys for all the feedback. I really appreciate it. Ya, they made me feel like I'm crazy for wanting a new phone. As long as they agree to give me a new phone I plan on keeping it and I definitely plan on building themes for it. If not then they can have it back and I will stick with what I have. I have never been treated so bad. One thing I think they could get a few lessons in from Sprint are Customer Service. By the way, good to see you here as well.

one word paragraphs lol

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Any update? Did you bring it back in?
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battery left in the phone can be different...but they should open the package infront of you...or you can ask for a new phone...unless you were not promised for a new one.

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Any update? Did you bring it back in?
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Ya, I took it in and the guy that was there said he was the one that personally opened it and he opened it to show a customer and may have forgot to turn the phone off. He said that he would not take the phone back because there was nothing wrong with it. Even after I threatened to cancel my service he said, that's fine but I will not take it back since there is nothing wrong with it. He said if there was something wrong with it that would be a different story but since there isn't then there was nothing he could do about it.

Tiffany84 said:
Ya, I took it in and the guy that was there said he was the one that personally opened it and he opened it to show a customer and may have forgot to turn the phone off. He said that he would not take the phone back because there was nothing wrong with it. Even after I threatened to cancel my service he said, that's fine but I will not take it back since there is nothing wrong with it. He said if there was something wrong with it that would be a different story but since there isn't then there was nothing he could do about it.
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That's kinda BS but whatever... if there's nothing wrong with it then I'd just keep it. Think of it this way, it's still for all intents and purposes brand new, still has a full warranty (though not too many of us here care about warranties lol), and if something does turn up to be bad with it, then you can exchange it. Don't let your bad experience with a couple idiots at the stores overshadow the excitement of getting such an amazing phone. I know I am completely obsessed with mine, I really feel the same way I did when I got my OG EVO 4G 2 years ago... not even my E4GT was able to give me that feeling again. This thing is so damn cool, just enjoy it and forget about all this BS. That's my two cents

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That's kinda BS but whatever... if there's nothing wrong with it then I'd just keep it. Think of it this way, it's still for all intents and purposes brand new, still has a full warranty (though not too many of us here care about warranties lol), and if something does turn up to be bad with it, then you can exchange it. Don't let your bad experience with a couple idiots at the stores overshadow the excitement of getting such an amazing phone. I know I am completely obsessed with mine, I really feel the same way I did when I got my OG EVO 4G 2 years ago... not even my E4GT was able to give me that feeling again. This thing is so damn cool, just enjoy it and forget about all this BS. That's my two cents
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I agree. It really left a bad taste in my mouth and I was really considering just canceling my service because the customer service I've received from AT&T has been horrible so far. But I absolutely love this phone and it's almost impossible to think about giving it up. Thanks for all the advice.

I'd call at&t customer service and complain about paying a restock fee on that first return. defective devices NEVER should have a restock fee. Since you're new customer, and can cancel service with NO penalty, I'd be shocked if they didn't give you some kind of account credit, probably more than the 35 dollars you were charged. I've found AT&T's phone reps to be very good in the past and as always you catch more flies with honey.
Good luck.

Tiff,
Was this a corporate store or one those preferred retail stores? If it's a corporate store you need to call AT&T over the phone and tell them how you were treated. Let them know the whole story and that you were charged $35. That's not what is suppose to happen.
If it's one of those preferred retailer stores, I'd return it and go to the corporate store and buy it there.
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droidiac13 said:
Tiff,
Was this a corporate store or one those preferred retail stores? If it's a corporate store you need to call AT&T over the phone and tell them how you were treated. Let them know the whole story and that you were charged $35. That's not what is suppose to happen.
If it's one of those preferred retailer stores, I'd return it and go to the corporate store and buy it there.
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Sadly it was a corporate store.
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You should definitely call AT&T and get the restocking fee back. It's crazy to make you pay extra just to have a working phone.
Don't know if they'll give you a new phone though. Did you do a factory data reset on the one you have to wipe it?

Call customer service and ask for retention department first off when they transfer u tell the rep Ur thinking about canceling and tell them y(Ur story) and see what they say..also u could call att corporate hq I did that once...filled. formal complaint with presidents assistant and Mr. Riko griffin called me back next day and gave me..I said GAVE me TWO vivid at no cost all cuz some dumb a** told me that he COULD give me a discount but wasn't going to and didn't have to tell me y lol so if u tell them Ur story they will fix it
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replacement phone is not new?

I just got a replacement for my GS3 since I had problem with the GPS. I'm a little surprised that it's not a new phone but a "Certified Like New" phone. Is that the normal Verizon warranty policy, or I somehow got the short end of the stick? I found out the GPS problem right after the 2 weeks period, that might be why I'm screwed?
The good thing is that I haven't found any problem in the new phone yet. I've run Quandrant, speed test, SD card test, screen test, GPS test. Anything else I should check?

simollie said:
I just got a replacement for my GS3 since I had problem with the GPS. I'm a little surprised that it's not a new phone but a "Certified Like New" phone. Is that the normal Verizon warranty policy,
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yes, it is

Yes, all warranty phones are cpo.
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Consider yourself lucky to even get a replacement. I have a gps problem too and been waiting a week for them to get it in stock. Did it even fix your gps problem?
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I just got a replacement from Asurion and it was brand new . Or at least I think it was. There wasn't any stickers saying it was certified like new or refurbished.

omgi0wn said:
I just got a replacement from Asurion and it was brand new . Or at least I think it was. There wasn't any stickers saying it was certified like new or refurbished.
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He got a replacement through Verizon they are cln. Asurion when phones are not old will replace with brand new phones. When I had my nexus replaced through insurance it came brand new in the box but you do pay a deductible vzw replacements are free.
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Also when phones have just came out in stock Verizon replacments are usually new phones with cln stickers. Pretty hard to have a refurbished phone when its only 3 weeks old.
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GPS at least works now, still not great like other people were reporting (lock in few seconds even indoor).
This replacement is actually better than the one I had in all aspects. I had a few minor issues with the old one (a tiny scratch on the screen, a clicking sound when I press behind the volume button, home button sticks out too much), the replacement doesn't have any of those problems. maybe it really is new just with a CLN sticker. Anyway I'm a happy camper for the time being.

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He got a replacement through Verizon they are cln. Asurion when phones are not old will replace with brand new phones. When I had my nexus replaced through insurance it came brand new in the box but you do pay a deductible vzw replacements are free.
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True. My bad. OP was warranty and I didn't slow down to see the other poster was an insurance claim.
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ha ha take off the stickers when you go to sell it.

It all depends on Asurion's stock of phones. Typically with a phone that was just released they will end up having to send out brand new phones as replacements. As the days move along past the release date more and more individuals have returned them or sent it something that was minor to fix. This is when you are pretty well garunteed to get a CPO product.
The iphone for example has an higher insurance fee each month because the posibilities of them being able to fix whatever is wrong with the phone is much more unlikely than with an android. So the chances of getting a brand new iphone are like 45%.
Just some background as I work for Asurion.

I had the same issue with my gps. I think if it is within 2 weeks of your purchase they can give you a new phone. I was just outside of my 2 years and I was able to call customer service and request a new phone, but since i got it over the phone, they had to charge me for it and would refund it after I returned my old phone. I just shipped out my old phone a few days ago so I don't know when i'll see the refund.

[Q] Question about returns of damaged devices

Hi, and if I'm breaking any etiquette or there's a post someone can point me to, feel free to give me a smack upside the head!
Here's my issue. I've had the S3 since release, and it's been a great phone to me. On my birthday this past weekend, a friend decided to play a prank and was going to do something to my phone (probably change my background to something stupid, who knows.) I noticed my phone missing very quickly, called it using another phone, and in his drunken stupor he tried to "cutely" hide it in his jacket and completely missed the pocket and threw the phone, quite hard, onto the floor. This resulted in a crack screen, but the phone does turn on yet.
Now here's my issue. This phone has been rooted since the instant I was able to, and was running a KitKat ROM at the time of the accident. I did have the extra insurance, which I utilized and filled out honestly without thinking about the fact the phone isn't stock (next day I was still a tad drunk. Mid 30's crisis and all that.)
So now I have to return the phone. What is my best bet? Should I attempt to get it back to 4.3 using these instructions (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319) if I can even get into the recovery blindly? Should I damage it more? Am I worrying for no real reason at all? I'm at a bit of a loss here. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks all.

Cowmunist said:
So now I have to return the phone. What is my best bet? Should I attempt to get it back to 4.3 using these instructions (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319) if I can even get into the recovery blindly? Should I damage it more? Am I worrying for no real reason at all? I'm at a bit of a loss here. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks all.
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If you filed an insurance claim, don't worry about it. Asurion doesn't check to see the OS, like Verizon does when you try to 'warranty' the device. If it's broken, they sell it for parts or they refurbish it, flash it stock and Verizon is never the wiser to what they had to do to your device.
I speak from personal experience.

beepea206 said:
If you filed an insurance claim, don't worry about it. Asurion doesn't check to see the OS, like Verizon does when you try to 'warranty' the device. If it's broken, they sell it for parts or they refurbish it, flash it stock and Verizon is never the wiser to what they had to do to your device.
I speak from personal experience.
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Great, that's excellent to hear. It's in pretty bad shape, honestly. I generally take good care of my devices, but it's been around the block a few times now. This is the first time I've actually ever had to use my insurance, so I wasn't sure about how they handle it.
I had heard some bad things about the replacement devices they send out due to being refurbishes, but so far the replacement device I've gotten works well. It's battery lasts for quite a bit more than the two I switched between before, too, which is nice.

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Great, that's excellent to hear. It's in pretty bad shape, honestly. I generally take good care of my devices, but it's been around the block a few times now. This is the first time I've actually ever had to use my insurance, so I wasn't sure about how they handle it.
I had heard some bad things about the replacement devices they send out due to being refurbishes, but so far the replacement device I've gotten works well. It's battery lasts for quite a bit more than the two I switched between before, too, which is nice.
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Don't worry about the refurbishes... I've had 5 total in my years with Verizon and have never had serious issues. AND if you have the 'extended warranty' coverage with them, like I do, if the phone wonks out, take it to verizon as a warranty replacement. The only problem I ever had was a wonked modem (hardware) on an old Droid RAZR; I took it to VZ and they warrantied it it, giving me a brand new one. Note, you might get a refurb through the warranty process, but VZ has a lemon rule, so if you have to return 3 of the same device, you can get a different model, brand new.

beepea206 said:
Don't worry about the refurbishes... I've had 5 total in my years with Verizon and have never had serious issues. AND if you have the 'extended warranty' coverage with them, like I do, if the phone wonks out, take it to verizon as a warranty replacement. The only problem I ever had was a wonked modem (hardware) on an old Droid RAZR; I took it to VZ and they warrantied it it, giving me a brand new one. Note, you might get a refurb through the warranty process, but VZ has a lemon rule, so if you have to return 3 of the same device, you can get a different model, brand new.
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Lemon rule is not true. You MIGHT get an employee who is soft and doesn't want to hear you complain about your phone anymore and make you an offer they're not supposed to. If you do, good for you I guess. But there is no lemon rule. Your warranty covers the phone you purchased, not a different model.
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My wife worked as a tech in a store for 3 years and I've personally had a manager tell me that's their policy when I had 3 Droid 2 phones go to crap on me. Maybe it's changed, but vz had a lemon policy that my wife used to have to abide by.

beepea206 said:
My ex wife worked as a tech in a store for 3 years and I've personally had a manager tell me that's their policy when I had 3 Droid 2 phones go to crap on me. Maybe it's changed, but vz had a lemon policy that my ex used to have to abide by.
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I'm a tech in a corporate call center. They don't have techs in corporate stores anymore. I don't know about vendors, but all replacements go through either tech support or customer service. Like I said, you might get someone who just wanted you to go away and offer you something you are not entitled to, and of course there are instances when exceptions are made, but as a policy, warranty covers purchased device.
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I'm a tech in a corporate call center. They don't have techs in corporate stores anymore. I don't know about vendors, but all replacements go through either tech support or customer service. Like I said, you might get someone who just wanted you to go away and offer you something you are not entitled to, and of course there are instances when exceptions are made, but as a policy, warranty covers purchased device.
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Must have been something her regional manager had as a customer service policy in those specific stores; she was told it was a company policy, but that could have been a misstatement.
Anyway, to the OP, don't worry about refurbishes.

beepea206 said:
Must have been something her regional manager had as a customer service policy in those specific stores; she was told it was a company policy, but that could have been a misstatement.
Anyway, to the OP, don't worry about refurbishes.
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Yeah definitely don't worry about "refurbs". Most refurbs are phones that have nothing wrong with them and were sent back because of user error or they wanted a different phone and thought if they said there was something wrong with it they'd get a new one. Refurb really only means it can't be sold as new.
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Yeah definitely don't worry about "refurbs". Most refurbs are phones that have nothing wrong with them and were sent back because of user error or they wanted a different phone and thought if they said there was something wrong with it they'd get a new one. Refurb really only means it can't be sold as new.
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I dealt with a similar situation in my old compy shop 10 something years ago. We were resellers for a few brands (Acer, Lenova, some others) and the Acer "refurb" units were pretty much all returns to big box stores from people that decided that the laptop didn't fit their needs. Lenova refurbs, on the other hand, were just that. They were still very reliable, though.

Ive heard of the "lemon rule" but never had the option. Wat ive heard from am employees its not a policy but they make exception like that to keep customers happy and coming back. Its more of a YMMV type of thing. Honestly i wanna work at a vzw store ill put xda as my reference . Once i was opening up an insurance claim over the fone the lady was nice look up my info amd told me of i had extended warranty wich i did to go tp vzw and ask for a new fone. The lady was nice most reps would of jst taken my money. Is the deductible still $100 for thr S3