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[Q] S-Off from HTCDEV.com

Hey guys,
is the unlock mode in htcdev.com is the same as the S-Off thing? or is it different?

It's HTC's version of it - don't do it as they then know you've done it and can refuse to repair your phone

EddyOS said:
It's HTC's version of it - don't do it as they then know you've done it and can refuse to repair your phone
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So it is still better to S-OFF using the one REVOLUTIONARY made ?

10000% yes

OK then, I'll rely on the Revolutionary thing. Thanks Eddy

[Q] Unlocking Bootloader

hi guys my sensation is s-off rooted and cwm recovery and now i wanna unlock the bootloader iv tryed htcdev bootloader unlocking with no joy any ideas thanks in advance

DanOMac said:
hi guys my sensation is s-off rooted and cwm recovery and now i wanna unlock the bootloader iv tryed htcdev bootloader unlocking with no joy any ideas thanks in advance
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Well since u went the revolutionary way ur all set to go as you got the best thing u can get, s-off. Plus I wouldn't even try goin the HTC route since I'm pretty sure it voids ur warranty(since they'll keep track of who uses it). And with the the revolutionary way, you can revert back to s-on if needed to send for warranty repair or sum
So go out and start flashing! (Well, roms ofcourse)
Sent by my feau gee

Thanks 4the info I only wanted it unlocked so I can change the splash image I will just have 2put up with the standard 1
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You can change it anyway if you're S-OFF - you don't need to unlock the bootloader

Any ideas how cos iv tried a few ways now with no luck
Catch up apple!!! Android is leaving you behind

after revelutionary S-OFF my sensation,,, i have flashed this file ftom this link int the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053&highlight=eng+S-off
but be sure to read everything,,,,

piimp said:
Well since u went the revolutionary way ur all set to go as you got the best thing u can get, s-off. Plus I wouldn't even try goin the HTC route since I'm pretty sure it voids ur warranty(since they'll keep track of who uses it). And with the the revolutionary way, you can revert back to s-on if needed to send for warranty repair or sum
So go out and start flashing! (Well, roms ofcourse)
Sent by my feau gee
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It only voids your warranty if that (unlocked bootloader) was what caused your phone to malfunction. All other warranties on the phone stay the same.

DanOMac said:
hi guys my sensation is s-off rooted and cwm recovery and now i wanna unlock the bootloader
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It's already S-OFF, which means the bootloader is unlocked. It's simply called two things - S-OFF and unlocking the bootloader are the same process/thing.

Cheers guys but I still can't change the dam splash screen
Catch up apple!!! Android is leaving you behind

Finally all sorted i went from s-off RL to ENG s-off RL which has sorted my problem
Thanks to all that helped !!!

No SIM Unlock Site can unlock my IMEI number. What now?

I have tried an eBay seller and 2 unlocking site, and none have been able to unlock my phone.
unlockhtcsimnow.com
and
cellunlocker.net
What do I do next?

Use xtc clip.
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kire.htc said:
Use xtc clip.
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Do I need to buy one, or is there a good chance my local phone unlocking shop will have one of those?

there is a way around that just make sure your s-off and install a custom rom or an ruu thats from where u are eg; i live in uk but would use the htc_saga eruope ruu and bam unlocked any sim

tonks22 said:
there is a way around that just make sure your s-off and install a custom rom or an ruu thats from where u are eg; i live in uk but would use the htc_saga eruope ruu and bam unlocked any sim
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Sorry, can you be clearer? My phone is SIM locked to UK T-Mobile.

ok have you got the nand security off your phone? when u turn your phone off and hold the volume down and power key it will take you to a bootloader saying s-on or s-off which one does it say?

i have revolutionary s-off and custom rooted rom, simlock is still there, how can i remove the simlock?

tonks22 said:
ok have you got the nand security off your phone? when u turn your phone off and hold the volume down and power key it will take you to a bootloader saying s-on or s-off which one does it say?
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Thanks for your help. The Bootloader says S-ON.

TylerDurdenK said:
Thanks for your help. The Bootloader says S-ON.
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ok first you need to s-off your phone which tutorials can be found here everything you need should be in this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601
and also after the s-on part you saw did it say what hboot version it was using?

Again, thanks for the link, I'll have to have a look at it later.
In answer to your question it is HBoot Version 0.98.0002

TylerDurdenK said:
Again, thanks for the link, I'll have to have a look at it later.
In answer to your question it is HBoot Version 0.98.0002
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ok this is good as revolutionary will be able to do the work for you s-off and install custom recovery such as clockworkmod
if need more help budd pm me

how can i remove the sim lock after s-off?

I followed this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194488 to S-Off and install CWM, and I also flashed the attachment to install su and Superuser.apk
What's next?

You can't sim unlock the desire s via software. You must use XTC clip. You don't need to buy one, just find a local store with an XTC clip where they charge you a small fee for sim unlock.
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shrome99 said:
You can't sim unlock the desire s via software. You must use XTC clip. You don't need to buy one, just find a local store with an XTC clip where they charge you a small fee for sim unlock.
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Oh........I thought I was following a path to get me SIM unlocked.
tonks22, is that not the case?

"tampered" and s-off

OK, so I am learning android (using HD2 now) and from what I understand when you use the htc boot loader unlocker you end up with a "tampered" warning somewhere that will let htc or your carrier know that you have unlocked your bootloader.
Does having s-off help you to be able to trick the phone from knowing that you have been into it if you flash it back to stock?
I am just worried about keeping insurance on the phone if once I unlock or s-off they will no longer cover it.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using XDA

I think that particular device will say, tampered. Soff is like security off you can fash roms and do many things with soff but no it does not trick the device into thinking its not tampered. With my device I can s on return to stock but I'm not sure about yours.
It might have tampered marked on it.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

Yes that will void warentee
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

tobiascrystal said:
OK, so I am learning android (using HD2 now) and from what I understand when you use the htc boot loader unlocker you end up with a "tampered" warning somewhere that will let htc or your carrier know that you have unlocked your bootloader.
Does having s-off help you to be able to trick the phone from knowing that you have been into it if you flash it back to stock?
I am just worried about keeping insurance on the phone if once I unlock or s-off they will no longer cover it.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using XDA
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It doesn't set a "tampered" flag. The stock bootloader has a caption at the top of *locked*. When you use htcdev to unlock the bootloader it will change that caption to *unlocked* and it cannot be undone.
S-off, on the other hand, does not notify HTC or your carrier of what you have done. It is also reversible if you really need to set things back to full stock.

realsis said:
Yes that will void warentee
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GROGG88 said:
It doesn't set a "tampered" flag. The stock bootloader has a caption at the top of *locked*. When you use htcdev to unlock the bootloader it will change that caption to *unlocked* and it cannot be undone.
S-off, on the other hand, does not notify HTC or your carrier of what you have done. It is also reversible if you really need to set things back to full stock.
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When you use HTC Dev to unlock your bootloader it does show Unlocked on the Hboot screen. But if you re lock the bootloader it displays re locked on the Hboot screen and not locked as it is originally. S-off can be reversed with out any trace of it being S-off. And now that the unbricking project has come up with a way to recover your de ice if going S-on soft bricks your device it is way less dangerous now.
At realsis, think about S-off as being like HSPL for the HD2.

I believe someone has figured out what was being set differently, and you can in fact return to "locked"

ziddey said:
I believe someone has figured out what was being set differently, and you can in fact return to "locked"
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Go on........

Don't know if this works for the Sensation, but if someone is trying to go back to locked hboot, give it a try.
Go back to totally stock. Flash a RUU, preferably GB so that you have an earlier hboot that can be easily S-OFFed again.
fastboot oem write secureflag 3
Reboot and you should be S-ON again. AGAIN, MAKE SURE YOU ARE TOTALLY STOCK WITH A SHIP HBOOT OR YOU WILL BRICK.
Use revolutionary to S-OFF again. Hopefully, you will be locked at this point.
If not, repeat, but use JuopunutBear to S-OFF.
If you're still unlocked, this method doesn't work on the Sensation.

is there any methode to unlock sim without s-off or root ?

hi,
is there any methode to unlock sim without s-off or root ?

Call your carrier and ask for the code. Depending on your carrier, it may or may not cost extra money.
Sent from my Ouya

AndroidSupporter318 said:
Call your carrier and ask for the code. Depending on your carrier, it may or may not cost extra money.
Sent from my Ouya
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no, i want a free method like wath they do with the "su" methode but without s-off or root

Then no... you must be rooted, or s-off to use the methods posted in the forum ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16932841)
Like I said, your other option is to call your carrier to see if they will provide the sim-unlock code for free.
Sent from my Ouya

AndroidSupporter318 said:
Then no... you must be rooted, or s-off to use the methods posted in the forum ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16932841)
Like I said, your other option is to call your carrier to see if they will provide the sim-unlock code for free.
Sent from my Ouya
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thanks,
i have hboot 1.27, and i read here that :
Sim Unlock
. xl VipeR lx:[GUIDE] TO UNLOCK YOUR SENSATION FREE - WORKING FOR EVERY SENSATION (noobproof)
kgs1992 : + this for hboot 1.27 or higher
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is it necesssary to do the second method with hboot 1.27 ?? and what about s-off here ??

First method doesn't require s-off. Second method requires firmware 1.17 and s-off
Sent from my Ouya

AndroidSupporter318 said:
First method doesn't require s-off. Second method requires firmware 1.17 and s-off
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in the second method by kgs1992
what he mean by clear S-58 data by selecting appropriate options.??

First of all, to use the second method, you need to be s-off to downgrade your firmware to 1.17. After that, you need to put the diag file on your SD card and clear s58 data.
Sent from my Ouya