[Q] Will I lose data if i don't install custom rom and only root. - HTC Pico (Explorer)

Will I lose data if i don't install custom rom and only root.I will unlock the bootloader and install custom recovery and superuser. Will I lose app apps and their data.

No but it is recomended to do factory reset, if you don't it's not bug deal, on the ather hand you can back up your apps with titanium backup(after rooting) and then do factory reset, after that you safely can restore them.

HTC says you will lose everything after unlocking bootloader process. But it haven't deleted anything for me . Everything worked fine after just rooting. By the way, you should backup apps, just in case.
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zgintasz said:
HTC says you will lose everything after unlocking bootloader process. But it haven't deleted anything for me . Everything worked fine after just rooting. By the way, you should backup apps, just in case.
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Same happened for me... I had all the data aftr rooting and flashing recovery.
power the droid

I don't know why someone above suggested doing a factory reset, that is completely unnecessary after rooting, and I think would actually cause boot loops.
No data was lost when I rooted, although HTC do say it will be. I haven't heard of anyone who actually did have data lost though.

Yes making reset from menu will cause bootloop, after rooting resets should be made from recovery, idea of making reset is to start fresh, mostly people rooted the phone so they can move app's to sd, if you use some kind of script, already installed apps will give fc, that's why is recomended. Again it's not nesecery it's just recomended, and you always can use titanium after that.

zgintasz said:
HTC says you will lose everything after unlocking bootloader process. But it haven't deleted anything for me . Everything worked fine after just rooting. By the way, you should backup apps, just in case.
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Same for me also. I think for advance precautions they warning like that. But simple boot unlock and rooting will never modify any user data.
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shortyoko said:
Yes making reset from menu will cause bootloop, after rooting resets should be made from recovery, idea of making reset is to start fresh, mostly people rooted the phone so they can move app's to sd, if you use some kind of script, already installed apps will give fc, that's why is recomended. Again it's not nesecery it's just recomended, and you always can use titanium after that.
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Yes, He is correct because menu will cause bootloop so u cant go in recovery mode..

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No. You wont lose any data. You just gain super user permission by rooting

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Completely new to Android OS and need some tips

I am brand new to the Android OS and I heard from some friends that rooting is very similar to "jailbreaking" on the iPhone in the sense that you gain a lot of extra features and are able to sideload apps, etc.
I have a few questions before I do my root. Also, I do not want to install Android 2.3 or any other OS on my phone. I want to keep the stock OS, except I want my phone to be rooted (if that works). The guide my friends showed me was this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
1. If I root my phone and then install an HTC or AT&T update, does my root go away (HTC Inspire 4G locked to AT&T).
2. Can I remove the AT&T lock so I can use my phone in Europe if I root?
3. I don't want to brick my phone, so is there anyway to back it up beforehand?
Thanks for the help!
1. It won't let you update so your good.
2. Yes you can it unlocks the phone.
3. Yes its called a Nandroid
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XAviierG said:
1. It won't let you update so your good.
2. Yes you can it unlocks the phone.
3. Yes its called a Nandroid
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Also, is the thread I posted the best method for rooting as of right now, or is there a better one?
ComradeNF said:
Also, is the thread I posted the best method for rooting as of right now, or is there a better one?
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That's how I rooted mines. Very simple
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Just remember backups are your friends
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Just remember backups are your friends
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+1! I learned this the hard way haha.....I went flash crazy once with mods, and one of them went wrong. I hadn't made a backup in almost a week, so I had a lot of work to do to get everything back the way I like it. Now, I religiously do a backup before doing any mod, everytime . Time consuming, yes, but it'll save you A LOT of time if something goes wrong.
yep very true a back up just saved my butt yesterday
Back up is a must..
I hate when I get bricked without a backup....I have to reinstall the rom and set up everything again..
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words can't explain how many times I've been saved with my backup when messng with different flashes, haha. Very important.
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1- rooting is the hardest /most dangerous part(not that its dangerous, but its more dangerous than flashing a rom/kernel simply cause your flashing a radio). Flashing a rom is simple/safe. After you root don't not flash a rom cause you think its dangerous or you'll brick your phone-you wont.
2- I haven't made a nandroid backup ever. If you soft brick your phone, knowing adb is way more important than a backup. I've bricked my phone probably more than everybody in this thread x50, adb saves me everytime. Even if the computer wont see your phone when it boots, 99.9% of the time it will see it when in recovery, so this is what will really save you. Reboot the phone to recovery, use adb to fix whatever broke from the mod/whatever you just did.
(I'm not saying don't make backups, I'm saying learn adb - it can more likely save your ass than anything. Learn it)
di11igaf said:
1- rooting is the hardest /most dangerous part(not that its dangerous, but its more dangerous than flashing a rom/radio simply cause your flashing a radio). Flashing a rom is simple/safe. After you root don't not flash a rom cause you think its dangerous or you'll brick your phone-you wont.
2- I haven't made a nandroid backup ever. If you soft brick your phone, knowing adb is way more important than a backup. I've bricked my phone probably more than everybody in this thread x50, adb saves me everytime. Even if the computer wont see your phone when it boots, 99.9% of the time it will see it when in recovery, so this is what will really save you. Reboot the phone to recovery, use adb to fix whatever broke from the mod/whatever you just did.
(I'm not saying don't make backups, I'm saying learn adb - it can more likely save your ass than anything. Learn it)
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Good advice....I need to take the time to do that.....
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Fastboot unlock cleared everything?

I decided to try rooting my phone, and initially had succeeded using ROM Manager. Flashed ClockworkMod Recovery and successfully flashed a custom ROM (CM7).
However I decided to revert, so I did a restore of the nandroid backup I made using ROM Manager before flashing the custom ROM.
In the process my bootloader got locked, so I tried unlocking it using Fastboot. it worked, but once I unlocked it I lost everything - including my nandroid backup. it looks like my SD Card got wiped.
Is this normal, that doing a fastboot oem unlock would wipe everything, including the sd card? or am I missing something and is there some way to restore?
edit: curiously, it's still using my previous wallpaper in the launcher. that and the superuser app seem to be the only things that did not get wiped.
Yes its normal. Every time u unlock the boot loader it will wipe everything on your phone including your SD card. It says it right when it ask u the yes or no thing. I think. But its normal. Sorry to hear u lost all your data
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It's normal
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Fastboot unlock wipes like others have stated.
What makes no sense is how the bootloader get relocked. Simple put you can not relock the bootloader period on the device it self. Nandroid restore cant do that. You either relocked manually or used a one click root unroot thing from a computer.
Of course unlock boot loader will wipe everything including SD card. But I wonder how you get relocked boot loader when you restore nandroid backup.
thanks for the replies. I don't know if it says it on the screen where it asks yes or no, but I assumed it was ok since the first time round it didn't wipe my sd card.
I didn't use a one-click unroot; although I did hit "Unroot" by accident once in SuperOneClick, but that was before I actually rooted my phone.
Fortunately I didn't lose any important data, since I had most of it backed up before I rooted the first time (I was super cautious that time, got a little cocky the second time round since the SD card was ok after the first time).
Is there a way to recover it?
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Yes its normal. Every time u unlock the boot loader it will wipe everything on your phone including your SD card. It says it right when it ask u the yes or no thing. I think. But its normal. Sorry to hear u lost all your data
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Guy, do you know a way to recover it. I made the process without pay attention in this thing. I already tried 2 differents recover software, but didn't work. Do you know a way?
I don't know the reason of software, because its scan the blocks even if the initial blocks has been erased.
Thanks a lot!
marmundo said:
Guy, do you know a way to recover it. I made the process without pay attention in this thing. I already tried 2 differents recover software, but didn't work. Do you know a way?
I don't know the reason of software, because its scan the blocks even if the initial blocks has been erased.
Thanks a lot!
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I don't recall ever seeing anyone post a way to recover the data, but I felt compelled to hit your thanks button since it appears you used the search button unlike so many other newer users here!
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How to disable update notification

Hey guys,
First off, I am an admitted noob. From what I can tell, updating to 2.20/4.04 will un-root your device so I'm looking for a way to disable the update notification. Is there a way to get it to stop bugging me until 2.20 is rooted?
Also, how do upgrades generally work when you're rooted and want to maintain root?
Thanks!
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Thanks! So how does updating work? Do I wait for 2.20 to be rooted, update, and re-root? Or install a pre-rooted image of some sort?
nyteroot said:
Thanks! So how does updating work? Do I wait for 2.20 to be rooted, update, and re-root? Or install a pre-rooted image of some sort?
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Something like that
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If you are rooted, you can flash the update rom here;http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459 . it keeps root and unlock..
gentzleon said:
If you are rooted, you can flash the update rom here;http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459 . it keeps root and unlock..
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I am rooted -- do I need to unlock my bootloader too to flash a rom? I haven't done that yet because my understanding is that it wipes all the user data from your phone...
nyteroot said:
I am rooted -- do I need to unlock my bootloader too to flash a rom? I haven't done that yet because my understanding is that it wipes all the user data from your phone...
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To flash a rom you need to unlock the bootloader which will wipe all user data not your sd card just data.
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Normally with OTAs, after the OTA is downloaded, you will have the option to install or not. Just cancel, then delete the file from the SD card. Somebody will have to verify this is the case (haven't gotten the notification, personally), but that is normally how HTC does it. You have to be really careful not to hit the wrong option. But once you've cancelled the install, you won't get any more notifications for this particular OTA.
Really, the "settings" method suggested by footbal9584 seems much safer (as a wrong button press will actually install the OTA for my way). But if his method doesn't work, you might try mine.
Also, all the info you will probably ever need about unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMs, etc. can be found in my Index thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
There you will find a method for keeping your user data while doing the bootloader unlock. But honestly, I'd recommend not going through the hassle. If you intend to flash custom ROMs, you should wipe data anyway.
E.Cadro said:
To flash a rom you need to unlock the bootloader which will wipe all user data not your sd card just data.
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Is there a good way to backup/restore? I've seen both NANDroid and Titanium Backup Pro recommended on here. Which one is best for backing up all my apps, settings, etc. so I don't have to redo all that after I unlock?
EDIT: Whoops -- didn't see post above. The method there uses dd to do a block-level backup -- does one of the above methods work, or not so much?
nyteroot said:
Is there a good way to backup/restore? I've seen both NANDroid and Titanium Backup Pro recommended on here. Which one is best for backing up all my apps, settings, etc. so I don't have to redo all that after I unlock?
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Nandroid is a full backup of the ROM, all user data, apps, and settings. If you are flashing custom ROMs, that is not what you want for restoring user data, etc. But its a good idea to do a nandroid backup of the stock ROM, in case you want to go back.
Titanium Backup is great for backing up user apps, and some settings. Some people use it to restore various settings, but this can be problematic, as all ROMs don't treat this data the same. Personally, I just use Titanium to backup and restore my apps and app save data, and sometimes WiFi and Bluetooth pairings. But I configure everything else manually. Usually takes me about 20 minutes to do it all when moving between ROMs.
footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Anyone know how effective this is? I postponed the update again today because I want to keep root like any sensible xda member, but it told me I cannot postpone any longer after this and it will just have to option to install now. I don't have my computer right now (at HP repair center) so unlocking bootloader isn't an option right now
thunderpack said:
Anyone know how effective this is? I postponed the update again today because I want to keep root like any sensible xda member, but it told me I cannot postpone any longer after this and it will just have to option to install now. I don't have my computer right now (at HP repair center) so unlocking bootloader isn't an option right now
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Did not work for me -- I started getting chain notifications, hella annoying.
NOTE: even when the only available button is 'Install', the back button on your phone still works.
If I freeze the updater, will it break my phone?
I do not know I highly doubt it would but no guarantees. I cleared my data before it downloaded anything it just started the "there is an update you cannot use tour phone during install do you want to install now" I postponed it 8 hours a few times, but then just cleared the data and still haven't gotten any notifications.
Maybe see of what the other user said is correct maybe the update was downloaded to your phone and you need to remove the file before it will leave you alone.
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nyteroot said:
Did not work for me -- I started getting chain notifications, hella annoying.
NOTE: even when the only available button is 'Install', the back button on your phone still works.
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At least on other devices, if you let the OTA download, then cancel it, it should stop the notifications. Can you confirm or deny this?
You can then just find the file on the internal SD and delete it. At least that is how it worked on the HTC Flyer.
If you can confirm, this would probably be a handy method for others. At least one other person is asking how to cancel the install (and other that want to stop the notifications, I'm sure): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29903041
Update: nevermind I restarted my phone today and ad soon as it booted up I got the is your last time to postpone message so I cleared updater again but now every time I unlock my phone I'm prompted to update and just have to push the back button. Sorry I'll keep looking into it.
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Ok the file did download on me, it was in the download folder on the sd card named OTA-Evita........... So I deleted it and I'll post back soon with the results.
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footbal9584 said:
Ok the file did download on me, it was in the download folder on the sd card named OTA-Evita........... So I deleted it and I'll post back soon with the results.
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Finally got my last chance to postpone. Glad you posted exactly where it was located. Deleted and hopefully it wont update.
Thanks!
footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Thanks for this info. I went one step beyond that and backed up and uninstalled the updater and updater setup within Titanium Backup. Will report back if anything gets messed up.

Root stock ICS rom without factory reset?

Is it possible to root the stock ICS rom (1.27 hboot) without wiping all of the phone's data? I was going to root my wife's sensation and install a custom rom, but she's been using it for almost a year on the stock un-rooted rom and she'd like to backup all of her apps as well as their data with titanium backup before hand so they can be restored on the new rom. All of the rooting methods I've seen all require a factory reset or wipe so I was just wondering if there was a method to achieve this that I have overlooked. Sure am glad I unlocked and rooted mine way back before the ICS update, heh.
I back up with titanium backup pro, you can do a batch restore of the apps and data with that. Also you can save files to computer and restore from there. What exactly is she not wanting to lose.? If it's files just put them on the computer and then restore from there, if it's applications titanium backup will take care of that. Hope this helps
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I back up with titanium backup pro, you can do a batch restore of the apps and data with that. Also you can save files to computer and restore from there. What exactly is she not wanting to lose.? If it's files just put them on the computer and then restore from there, if it's applications titanium backup will take care of that. Hope this helps
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I know all of that, that's what I want to do. The problem is that Titanium backup requires root. How can I backup her apps and data if I have to wipe the phone to get root in the first place? I just need a way to at least temporarily gain root so that I can run titanium and create the backups. Then I can unlock, s-off, flash a custom rom, install titanium and restore the backups. All of the methods of rooting that I've been able to find require a factory reset/wipe so all of the data and apps would be gone, making it pointless to run a backup.
Oh I understand now, try my backup from market it does not require root. Sorry I misunderstood. Hope this solves your problems.my back up will do the job. Simply search in market for My backup.
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Oh I understand now, try my backup from market it does not require root. Sorry I misunderstood. Hope this solves your problems.my back up will do the job. Simply search in market for My backup.
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Without root, my backup will only backup apps, no data.
dohclude said:
Without root, my backup will only backup apps, no data.
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If you don't want loss of data and want to root the pure stock phone.. Then my soff is the way.. Check the link guide in my signature
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Need backup

Hey guys, need full CWM backup or TWRP backup. Phone always shows 77% battery state, flash original and custom roms does not resolve my problem. Thanks a lot.
Have you tried RUUing?
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Download an original, imo UrDroid, for an easier installation. Same thing happened to me, or try to hard reboot your phone, hold power and down volume, let it shut off and repeat until you are in bootloader -> factory reset then reboot
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Wesley. said:
Download an original, imo UrDroid, for an easier installation. Same thing happened to me, or try to hard reboot your phone, hold power and down volume, let it shut off and repeat until you are in bootloader -> factory reset then reboot
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No! Never factory reset in bootloader on a modified phone! It corrupts the sd card. You need to learn more before you start giving advice, giving advice when you don't know what you're doing is dangerous, you'll damage someone's phone. Plus, he already stated that changing ROMs didn't work. He needs to run an RUU.
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timmaaa said:
No! Never factory reset in bootloader on a modified phone! It corrupts the sd card. You need to learn more before you start giving advice, giving advice when you don't know what you're doing is dangerous, you'll damage someone's phone. Plus, he already stated that changing ROMs didn't work. He needs to run an RUU.
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factory resetting from bootloader will load his recovery, and, I've tried RUU as well, and I don't think they will work unless you can access your phone, which I don't know if he can, I think I got mixed up with another thread.
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Wesley. said:
factory resetting from bootloader will load his recovery, and, I've tried RUU as well, and I don't think they will work unless you can access your phone, which I don't know if he can, I think I got mixed up with another thread.
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You're completely mixed up. Factory resetting from bootloader will corrupt his sd card. You only ever factory reset in recovery. Never, ever factory reset in bootloader. He never said he had problems accessing recovery, he said he needs a backup to restore via recovery. RUU will work perfectly fine, his only problem is that the battery icon is always showing 77%
@element100500
NEVER FACTORY RESET IN BOOTLOADER, DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS OTHER PERSON'S ADVICE. What you need to do is run an RUU, make sure you have s-off first though.
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timmaaa said:
You're completely mixed up. Factory resetting from bootloader will corrupt his sd card. You only ever factory reset in recovery. Never, ever factory reset in bootloader. He never said he had problems accessing recovery, he said he needs a backup to restore via recovery. RUU will work perfectly fine, his only problem is that the battery icon is always showing 77%
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I was confused with the thread from the guy who installed a wrong OTA Update, any who, Bootloader factory reset was always a fast way for me to do it, and didn't have any errors. Thanks, though.
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Wesley. said:
I was confused with the thread from the guy who installed a wrong OTA Update, any who, Bootloader factory reset was always a fast way for me to do it, and didn't have any errors. Thanks, though.
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Do you have this phone? Factory reset in bootloader on an unlocked One XL results in a corrupt sd card.
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Yes, HTC One X Evita AT&T
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Ok, well like I said before, do some more learning before giving out advice. I'm not trying to be mean, but giving advice when you don't know enough could have catastrophic results. For example: if this guy had followed your advice to factory reset in bootloader he would have lost all of the data on his sd card. I doubt you want to be responsible for that.
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i flashed RUU_EVITA_UL_JB_45_S_Cingular_US_3.18.502.6_Radio_0.24p.32.09.06_10.130.32.34_release_signed_With_Partial rom, MIUI rom, tried factory reset using recovery, but had no luck.
this phone comes to me with deat boot (qhsusb_dload), i erase all flash memory and resurrect bootloader, imei, recovery, etc after.
now phone fully worked, but shows only 77%, shows charging with usb connect, but really did not charge, and wan't startup when battery low. think battery calibration losed after erase.
so if you can make backup on working phone - please give me.
sorry for bad english, my native language is russian
I'd love to, but I only have a small data allowance so I can't upload a file that big. I hope someone else sees this and can help you out though.
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Wesley. said:
factory resetting from bootloader will load his recovery, and, I've tried RUU as well, and I don't think they will work unless you can access your phone, which I don't know if he can, I think I got mixed up with another thread.
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I think you are mixed up about a great many things, and should not be dispensing advice.
What on earth does doing a factory reset in hboot have to do with getting into recovery? All it will do is bork up the SD.
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